Duel from The 10 Worst Things About "Twilight"

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Do you disagree?

Let everyone else know your opinion of this critique of "Twilight"... good or bad! My opinions are not necessarily right or wrong, and I want to know your thoughts in response to my review.

What do you think of this critique of "Twilight"? Do you think I hit the nail on the head, or do you think I'm a crotchety pessimist who doesn't believe in true love?

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This is dead on!

Rabbit says:

What I wondered as I tried to slog through this piece of crap... why would Edward, a 100 year old vampire, still be IN HIGH SCHOOL? If he could survive sunlight, stakes, garlic and all of the other pitfalls of immortality don't you think he could figure out a way make a fake ID that says he is 18?

emily says:

You are completely right. I did enjoy these books, but they were completely unbelievable and unlikely. Edward has no reason to love Bella because like you said, there's been hundreds of Bellas since he was her age. Edward's stalking Bella is also a bit disturbing. I think that Stephanie Meyer was trying too hard to make Edward a likeable character. He has no flaws, and then there's Bella who is a bull in a china shop. Everything Edward touches turns to gold, and Bella has no purpose in life but to be average and a total klutz. The characters are what irk me the most. I think Alice is annoyingly bubbly and vivacious. Rosalie is slightly more believable, as she actually has flaws. Jacob is a complete dolt for not just leaving Bella while he had the chance. Another thing that annoys me is that Bella uses Jacob from day 1. She flirts with him in order to learn more about her beloved Edward, which is incredibly mean and goes against her personality (always worried about other people, even impenetrable vampires). She realizes she's hurting him, but she doesn't do anything about it. The Twilight series is cheesy, sappy, corny, and unlikely. Calling Stephanie Meyer a great author is the overstatement of the year.

BC4 says:

I whole-heartedly agree.

Franny says:

I completely agree with the above points. I have never seen either of them have any lives other than "loving each other" We learn things about her families (i.e. Charlie loves football and beer, her mom loves Phil, who loves baseball) But, all of the Cullens are perfect, and Bella is clumsy. What a load of crap. All of the guys in Forks fancy Bella, probably because she has no separate interests and will basically go along with anything they want, if they're attractive enough. As for the Fourth book, after we've seen Eddie save Bella in 2 out of 3 books....We have Breaking Dawn. The idea that a corpse could procreate is completely over the wall. She has completely made Ed just a pretty immortal being and tacked the name vampire on it. Being someone who loves Vampire tales, I am appalled at the fanciful notions of a lonely housewife. If you want immortality, give them a fricken fountain of youth or something... To the defenders of Twilight, if you're going to defend it, don't look like a total idiot when you do, yes, the bestseller list has told us that it's a great book, so has every middle-aged soccer mom dissatisfied with the norm of everyday household chores and their teeny bopper young girl who thinks love means the most popular guy in 6th grade, because all of the others have cooties still. To the movie: Kristen Stewart has some of the most atrocious acting characteristics I have ever seen! She has the exact same facial expressions and mannerisms in every single movie she has ever been in. She even managed to fit in the open mouthed "I don't know what to do with my face," the lip bite of indecision, and the running of her hands through her hair in an effort to do something with her hands into the couple of seconds where she answered the door at the end of the movie "Jumper" If that is what Hollywood considers great acting, then I fear for that avid moviegoers will riot in the near future. While somewhere in there at the beginning, Meyer may have had some potential for a great vampire story, as soon as she started writing, that potential was brutally murdered. Having read all four of the books myself, I can honestly say they were a waste of my time. I don't understand the stalker like obsession of a fictitious character, (he's not real, by the way, for those of you hoping for the day when Edward will tire of Bella, there is no century old being out there going to come sweep you off of your feet, and ensure that you will be semi-permanent damsel-in-distress), or the total hopelessness of the life of one girl.

finds it humorous when the people that ridicule you show their ignorance says:

sorry, i posted that on the wrong side, i'll just blame it on small font and being too impassioned to notice

Samuel says:

i wasn't going to respond, for the most part i think you have legitimate concerns(some things are exaggerated or blown out of proportion. i won't elaborate on specifics because that isn't why im writing.) im writing to say, Heidi is a MORON!!!!! haha, she said omg, which is strike number one. she basically cussed you out for having an opinion(that was, like i said before, fairly accurate.) oh heidis of the world... do us all a favor. DO NOT PROCREATE!!!

Frederic says:

wow...look at all the derranged twitards defending their sacred text. I totally agree with you, on every point, especially about Edward and Bella's "love" and Bella's empty shell. Also, I've read ALOT of bad books by bad authors, but this tops them all. Meyer can't write squat. (PS, I really hate crazy fangirls i.e, ones that throw a punch at you when you point out everything wrong with twilight.)

Xasper8ing says:

I definitely think your Terrible Things #1 and #2 are spot on...I love the story of the series, but the writing is horrible, and those two facts you pointed out bothered me the entire time I was reading the books!

Cat says:

While I agree with all your criticisms you have for Twilight I think it's a HUGE insult to J K Rowling, author of the Harry Potter series, to say that the writing styles are similar. It's like saying that meals at McDonalds and Ruth's Chris Steak house are the same because they contain beef.

Ekrem says:

I've seen the movie. Well.. My gf made me watch it (saying how bad it is) but I was willing to give it a chance... I just couldn't stand the stupidity of it and didn't watch it.
I don't know about the books and how much they changed it but in the movie:
Acting was crap. Scenes were crap. (God, those glares and empty looks!) Characters are far away from being believable. So is the plot. So many inconsistencies... Just stopped watching it at some point.

It's fine if someone want to tell a story of two teenagers falling in love. But two teens spotting each other and falling in love.. is hormones! So that's okay, BUT ONE OF THE TEENAGERS IS A GODDAMN CENTURY OLD VAMPIRE??!!

Watch.. say, Grease if you want a teenage love movie. Watch Interview with Vampire if you want a vampire movie. Then go back and watch twilight and see how utter crap it is.
Again, I dont know how much they changed between the books and movie adaptation so I'm talking about the stuff that exist in the movie.

One thing you've passed up:
Terrible Thing #Another
The Concept of Vampires
What are they? What is their origin? I mean the traditional vampire is a cursed creature, many times relating to a personal sin or to an heraditary one (say, abel and cain). That is why they are forced to drink blood (a horrible act) and avoid the sun. Sun is a metaphore, it represents the "good" stuff. But vampires cant have any sunshine. In fact, it burns them. They have become a creature that is on odds with the sun. That is a punishment. (In various cases stuff like crosses or crucifixes effect them too, they are all different metaphoric or obvious representations) And in Twilight? They twinkle and they look beatiful? What the heck? What is the downside of being a vampire really? Get some bloodpacks and you're set!

Another thing.
WHY DOES A HUNDRED YEAR OLD VAMPIRE GO TO HIGH SCHOOL??!! What the hell?! Just.. UGH!

Kyus says:

I have to say this; I do like the saga as a whole because it's alright in an 'I don't really have to think about it that hard' kind of way, and Eclipse is definitely my favourite. I didn't really like Twilight that much because I don't like Edward and the book didn't really have that much of a plot. I am firmly team Jacob, and it still galls me the way Bella is the slowest, most annoying girl I have ever read about, yet she has about 3 boys falling over themselves in 'love' with her. Come on!

Benedict says:

I knew I wouldn't like this book the moment I heard what it was about. I read the first book because my friends who enjoyed the series told me I should. I only read it because I wanted to be able to say I didn't like it AND I tried it.

I agree with every point. If anything you gave me new and interesting view points I may have overlooked in my halfhearted reading of the book.

I don't condemn you for enjoying the book since you looked at it and acknowledged that the book was full of inconsistencies and poor choices made by the author (unlike many who have judged me for not loving the book right off the bat and refuse to take it off its pedestal, even if only for a moment).

Thank you for not only being a fan of something, but for being able to analyze it from another perspective and realize that even though you enjoy "Example X", it's not the best thing ever.

caligula says:

Congratulations your brain is on, I think the story is about kissing every 20 seconds, giving a bad example to horny teens. Thank you for your critic is so well done.

Miss Nocsiez says:

The words in which you express as so delicious, like brownies I just can't eat. Oh, I can watch it - just can't eat. I've read the books, I saw the movie. I believe I can't judge what I don't know. I know this too well! It's like every other fan fiction on the market! If I wanted poorly written fan fiction about how a vampire can't eat his cheesecake, I'll go search for it on Google. Thanks for the waste of time, Miss Meyer.

Jodelle says:

I how I wish I could declare these things from the mountain tops! Especially #2 and #1!

I judge you when you use poor grammar says:

I have to agree with you.

I would also like to point out how many critics of your article not only have some of the most atrocious grammar skills I have ever seen, but also posted on the wrong side.

yeppers says:

You are so right, I enjoyed Twilight the way a lot of people enjoy soap opera, you know it all sucks but you are still entertained by it.

the #1 twilight book hater says:

I think that it’s a shame that teenage girls need something to obsess over this badly. Being one of those teen girls, I kinda liked the books. But as soon as I read the first chapter of Twilight, I knew the book was going to have a fake plot that wasn’t believable. I mean seriously, come on people! You really think a girl, who has never had someone to love before, is going to come to a crappy town and suddenly every guy who looks at her practically passes out because she’s just that beautiful? I mean, it’s a nice thought, but not something that should be made into a story, let alone 4 books. So, I definitely can say that I agree with this review. I hope more people will realize that the books are unrealistic because of this review. BTW Lizzy Cullen, ur comment is on the wrong side AND, FYI, I’m on team Jacob because at least he doesn’t look like he’s gonna kill someone!

Temp_Girl says:

Oh. My. God. We wrote the SAME REVIEW! Mad props! I think that we noticed the same thing -- the wretchedly obvious Mary Sue-ness of the writing worked my last nerve (probably why it took me two weeks to get past page 20). The idea isn't bad. Even the plot in itself isn't that bad. But how this book got off an editor's desk without some serious rewrites? I'm gobsmacked.

Lizzy Cullen says:

Everyone is too there own opinon, but GOD man who do you think you are I mean who really gives a crap on your opinon.
And everything you think is 'the worst' is like the WHOLE point so shut up and if you didn't agree or like the first book [TWILIGHT] you shouldn't have read on know what your probably a TEAM JACOB person thats why you suck.

Twiglight fan! says:

oops

Twiglight fan! says:

shut up! everyone is a critic! ( by that i mean u)

tash says:

As a firm Anti-Twilighter, I say...RIGHT ON! You've mentioned and exposed every infallibility (besides imprinting, teen pregnancy and marriage) in this shitty book. I applaud you. The only thing I disagree with you on is the subject of J.K. Rowling and Harry Potter (though I don't know if you were pointing out her writing style as a good or bad thing.) Twilight is an overrated piece of purple trash with the most generic and Sue-tastically predictable "plot" I've ever seen. End. Of. Story.

blah says:

haha ya i think that you are right about this. It wierd how i still like the book. I realized since the first book that there is no character developement, no theme (not really),and the plotline is pretty terrible. Haha I kind of think of it as a brain-rotting book- you read it cause theres something about it that lures you in, but it really had no point. (I also find the book similar to a movie like, perhaps, "Dumb and Dumber" haha well atleast I saw there was no point to it... just me though lol)

random says:

"kate griffiths <3 says:

This chick is a dickhead she is not very bright and is very cricitical and is an ugly werewolf. She is a fucking whore, bitch. we love your stupidity ayy !! (:"

Watch your language, there is no need for that. Seeing as your mind was evidently made up before you posted I would wager that either you didn't read it or you wasted your time in doing so.

Great post. It's good to see someone who can say that they read the books objectively. It's ok to like them (personally I don't) but to proclaim that Meyer is a brilliant author is something else.

alice says:

all true but i still love the books.

Chester says:

You are right. So true. The criticism is awsome.

bob says:

i love your critisim is awsome LOVE it omg haggles

This is all wrong!

Banana says:

Your the stupidest gayest person i know !You are just so freaking jealous for Stephanie Meyers awesome book that you plan to be a r-tard .I think it was a man with a love and politness and mystery that won her heart.(and his beauty) you plan to be a gay man who needs someone to leave em other than your mom.I bet you are a hundred year old one of em 2 .

Britt says:

Here's how I see it. If your going to be a skeptic..shut the hell up and keep your opinions to yourself. Why can't you let people think and believe what they want. If you want to dis Twilight ok thats your right. But it is also people's right to be fans. Just because you refuse to let your imagination roam doesn't mean you have to burst other people's bublles. I personally am a fan and love Twilight. I briefly went through your blog or whatever it is and decided that it was like believing in Santa and then someone telling you he didn't exist. One more thing..this is supposed to be a fan site so why would the creators of this site even allow such skeptism?!

Mizz. Rikky Bo0 says:

Your SO Wrong!!! I Think Your Actually Wanting A Relationship Like Edward's And Bella's But You Have NO Life Outside Of Putting Down GREAT and I Mean Great Books And Authors....So Get A Life!!! And Stop Being A JERK

wendy says:

i hate your article shithead

and so the lion fell in love with the lamb says:

why does edward need human characteristics? hes not human hes a vampire and they seem perfect to humans in every way!!

Ghd says:

You are right in some parts, but not entirely.These books are meant to be read just for fun,I know it's far from Dostoevsky or Dickens, the writing is bad, there is no character development and the plot has obvious flaws, but since you know that, why do so many people bitterly criticize these books?What did you expect?Sometimes you need these kinds of books to relax and unwind, for example when you go to the beach or on vacation,some light reading, for fun, and amusement.If you'd read 'serious' novels all the time like the great Russian novelists or Shakespeare, like you said, you'd go nuts losing yourself through the multitude of symbols,character analysis,settings and trying to decipher every single meaning put into those books .You need variety.Sometimes you mind needs a break.Some entertainment, a read just for the fun of it.That's what books like the Twilight Saga are for.It's just entertainment.Plus, have you ever considered that some people's mental capacity of understanding and perception cannot go beyond the meanings of this book?Some people are not as perceptive and literary competent to grasp more ...'serious' novels, in lack of a better term.If most of the fans of the book like it for the obviously wrong,shallow reasons (like Edward is hot, bla bla bla) can you expect them to understand deeper books?These are the kinds of books that appeal to the majority of the population, the mediocre and the shallow.It's a pop culture phenomenon because it appeals to the majority, not because it is well written but because it what the mediocre actually want and understand.It's catchy and...people like it. I have read all the books in the series and I loved them,but I never considered them a great work of literature.It never was and never will be.But I appreciate Twilight for what it is. It's fun, it's catchy, it's an easy read if you want a break from serious cerebral activity at work or at school,it's entertainment.I agree with you on this :the characters are terrible and the plot is majorly flawed.Bella is a 'Plain Jane' who seems to be madly, unconditionally in love with Edward only because of his good looks,there seems only physical attraction she feels for him.The author insists so much on Edward's physical features it's annoying sometimes.It's shallow.But have you thought that maybe true love does not need logical reasons?Sure, there is no serious conversation between them,she seems so average and uncoordinated it baffles me, but maybe...just maybe...love does not necessarily need all of that to happen.I think that Bella, as undeveloped and poor a character she may be, stands out with her capacity to love and to sacrifice herself for the ones that truly matter for her.She is average and simple minded, yes, but how many 'plain Janes' would literally give their lives for their impossible love and even trade their mortality for an eternity of aching bloodlust, of hiding their true identity and always fighting with the desperate thirst to kill in order to survive and be with the one they love?Think about it.I think this is Bella's (only) feature that makes her stand out as a character.As for Edward, I have to contradict you.He is not perfect.Even though I do not know why he fell in love with Bella in the first place, I believe he is not perfect.Who would love a perfect character?Only shallow crazed 14 year-old fangirls maybeThere is no such thing as a perfect character.As inhumanely beautiful and moral as he may be, remember he was not always so...seemingly perfect.He killed people in his first years as a vampire.He was too weak to fight the thirst,the killer instinct.He was a murderer, a thief, a liar.He killed to survive, and lied to keep his identity secret.Every minute with Bella and, actually, with every human, is a constant struggle against the crippling pain of bloodlust, against his very nature, the one of a predator, a killer, a ...carnivore.Do not get tricked by his good looks.It's only the wrapping.It're more seducing if he is inhumanely beautiful, mannered, graceful etc., but he is still a killer. Like a carnivore flower; it may be beautiful on the outside, but only to attract its prey,to which is merciless, deadly.So Edward learned from his mistakes,he is flawed.But we learn from his struggle to keep Bella safe that not abilities , or looks, or the very essence of your soul make you who you are, but choices. Edward is a vampire, a killer by nature, by chose to fight against his nature.His love for Bella is his redeeming feature.He chose love instead of giving in to the obsessing desire to drink her blood.He might have killed her,it would have been much easier,but he didn't.A perfect vampire is evil by nature,Edward denies his evil nature just to be with Bella, so he is not that perfect.Plus (if you've read New Moon), if he would have been so perfect as all of you say, he would have succeeded in getting over Bella and would not have tried to kill himself by going to the Volturi.He is weak, no matter how physically strong, disgustingly shiny,fast and godly beautiful he is!I'm sick of everyone who says :"Oh Edward's hot!He's strong,he's perfect, he loves Bella!"Blah!!Such shallowness, even for a somewhat shallow book as this one.And notice the sexual tension between them?
So, to conclude, yes, Twilight is shallow, yes, it's poor in meaning,its plot is awful at times,the characters are underdeveloped and the writing style is flawed.It's aimed at teenagers and young adults.It's a modern fairytale.That's what teenage girls dream of nowadays!Some of them don't know any better.I may be a big fan of the books, but I know how to distinguish a true work of literature from books like this.It;s just entertainment ,people, enjoy the book for what it is and don't be so bitter about this!Good books need a term of comparison, don't they?Twilight may be such a phenomenon nowadays, but it's just a trend,it won't be remembered as a classic, like 'Dracula' or 'Frankenstein' etc.It's just for fun!If you are so bitter about it, why don't you stop criticizing it and try to write a better book instead to prove you know better?You see,Stephenie Meyer at least tried.

elika says:

w/e you just dont get the book and yes there is love because if it was just that they had a "physical desire" as you put it then why did she try to kill her self (new moon) and why did he want to to the same , and why did she go and stop him after what he did to her, and why was she so so so so so like sad i dont see your poin because if it was just physical then why dont they just have sex !!! like they do in the last book ??? because they LOVE yes LOVE each other and ... you know what i am going to just stop you all get the point and by the way i am not same 14 year old girl in love with whats his name ... the guy that playes edward i really hate him but they books are really good and i get were she is coming from (Meyer)

zainab says:

its an amazing book! ur wrong

steve o says:

learn to use your imagination. it's a good book.

just another face says:

im not saying its not vallad and i wont tell you your wrong its a book its completely up to interpretation but i think sometimes you have to do a little over looking to get a great read no auther is perfect and would you want a perfect novle?

finds it humorous when the people that ridicule you show their ignorance says:

i read through some of the "duels" after posting my opinion, and just have to point out how many ridiculous morons posted absolute proof of their mental retardation. the avg IQ for those that posted on the "This is all wrong!" side must have been at least 70(which is the IQ of a mentally retarded person in case you aren't picking up on the association.)

Heidi says:

they do so love each other omg, how could you not see that?

by the way

WHO THE FUCK DO U THINK YOU ARE MOTHER FUCKER,

twilight is the best book on earth this is most pointless thing on earth

if anyone agreesz with you they probably haven't read the book

Paul says:

I agree she's not the best writer in the world -- she likes her adjectives and adverbs far too much -- but I think you're being a little unfair. Particularly on her characters. To tackle your points:

10 - Didn't notice that myself
9 - The problem here is the first person. She thinks that every time she sees him.
8 - Not sure about the plot hole. I don't think her heart actually stopped - that's just what it felt like to her. It probably just quickened a lot.
7 - Both Bella and Edward change quite a lot over the 4 books. It isn't unreasonable that the other centuries-old vampires don't much.
6 - Meyer claims to have had the same experience herself. She was at one school and was surrounded by attractive people who gave her no notice, then moved to a school with less attractive people who all came onto her.
5 - True
4 - She gets stronger as the books go on. She is particularly strong and brave when defending others.
3 - His floor is his all or nothing. He can only do black or white - never grey. Like leaving her in New Moon
2 - Piffle. Why not?
1 - You don't need to share interests or philosophies to be in love. I think it works at a deeper level than that.

jasiska says:

The only thing I agree with in this article is the fact, that Edward is too perfect - I have always liked Jacob better:-)

Tigerlily says:

I dont agree. Because if you were to find out the age group that was the most into reading twilight, it would most likely teens and young adults. They dont read to much inot the story they just go by what it says. They just try to read somethin different from their normal life becasue they get tired of everythin that goes on in their lifes. if you no what i mean. Twilight gives them a way to believe that there is somethin more to life than growin up, that maybe they will find the one person they really love. Teens dont care about wether he loves her cuz she smells or not.

Rose Lillian says:

I know this sounds horrible,but I have a prob with the twilgiht series. I'm totally sorry if I just offended anyone out there. I stayed up for days, mabey weeks even, without sleeping just so I could read the books. I luved them so much. I couldn't put them down at all. Then came breaking dawn. I couldn't stand the end. It tore me apart. That just can't be the end. Stephy has to write a whole new book about Renesmee growing up and being with Jacob, and the challenges they face. It can't just stop with "And so we continued blissfully in our small but perfect piece of forever." It just HAS TO CONTINUE! I have been crying and crying over this for months now. I don't understand. Am I missing some thing? Is that why I don't think it should end like that? Other than that, I didn't even notice anything wrong with the books.

I says:

This is BULL CRAP! EDward loves Bella.

Julia says:

I think you are a lier they are in love for real when Bella is turned into a Vampire he still loves her just the same.

BlondeBelle says:

On a lot of points, I don't necessarily disagree. I can spot bad writing. I agree with a lot of the inconsistencies. I was one of those teenage girls with a sick obsession with Twilight. Now I see them as books I like. So... I agree, but I still can't help but like the books.
About J.K. Rowling, on the other hand. I will always stand by Jo and the Harry Potter series; she is an amazing writer and extremely creative in her plots.
About "my choice," well I'm in between, so I'll just go with wrong.

Twiglight fan! says:

shut up! everyone is a critic! ( by that i mean u)

edward fan says:

BULL CRAP

TwiTwi says:

Some good points but I still love the book.
The book still have its selling points

kate griffiths <3 says:

This chick is a dickhead she is not very bright and is very cricitical and is an ugly werewolf. She is a fucking whore, bitch. we love your stupidity ayy !! (:

I says:

Some of this is right and some i disagree with. I mostly read it for the story and conflict so i like it. But you make good points.

 
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  2. Terrible Thing #10
  3. Terrible Thing #9
  4. Terrible Thing #8
  5. Terrible Thing #7
  6. Terrible Thing #6
  7. Terrible Thing #5
  8. Terrible Thing #4
  9. Terrible Thing #3
  10. Terrible Thing #2
  11. Terrible Thing #1
  12. Duel
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