***********Help avoid the YLOD*********** 3 tips for a Cooler and Greener PS3
Ranked #43 in Games, #875 overall
Help prevent the YLOD before it has the chance to happen, and prolong the lifespan of your system.
You may be familiar with at least one of these tips, but perhaps not all three of them. If you do decide to implement all three of these tips that I present, you should be able to help maximize the lifespan of your PlayStation 3 game system.
Contents at a Glance
ATTENTION!
If you already have the YLOD, these tips will not help you.
For options, please skip to the section "What if I already have the YLOD?" towards the bottom of this page.
What is the YLOD?
If you get the YLOD, the PS3 becomes nonfunctional. If you happen to have a disc inside, it will probably be stuck there until you have the system fixed, or have it physically removed.
The YLOD is characterized when the PS3 beeping and flashing lights in this exact sequence: RED to GREEN (1.5 seconds) to YELLOW to BLINKING RED, when you try to turn it on.
This is illustrated in the video below:
What causes the YLOD?
The PS3 is the first PlayStation system to require an elaborate cooling system, where it needs a heatsink, fan, and thermal paste to cool itself effectively. Unfortunately the thermal paste Sony choose to use when manufacturing the PS3 tends to dry out after a few years of regular use, which can cause the PS3 to overheat. When this happens, it can also cause the aforementioned lead-free solder to fracture, break, or melt; resulting in a YLOD issue.
Although it is rare, a YLOD issue could be caused by a faulty power supply. From what I understand, if you don't hear the system fan spin up when you first turn the PS3 on, then you may have a bad power supply. Also if you find that the green light stays on for less than half a second, that could also indicate a defective power supply. You can easily buy a replacement one from eBay or Amazon.
Most of the time it is the GPU (RSX) chip that gets fractured solder points that lead to the YLOD. The best reason I have heard this happens is that the CPU (CELL) chip has a hole cut underneath it on the motherboard allowing for heat to escape. It is also true that the CPU doesn't have any solder points located directly beneath the actual processor, that could fracture from heat generated by the processor. Both of these conditions isn't true for the GPU. You can see this in the picture below, where both chips have been removed from the board.
These tips are primarily intended only for the following PS3 system models:
60GB (CECHA)
20GB (CECHB)
60GB (CECHC)
80GB (CECHE)
80GB (CECHE MG)
40GB (CECHG)
WARNING
You shouldn't attempt any of these tips if you are uncomfortable with opening up and servicing your own PS3, or if it is still under warranty.
If you are not comfortable doing this, see the section "Have these tips performed for you professionally", toward the bottom of this page.
I strongly recommend you first view all these videos in their entirety, so you can familiarize yourself with exactly what you need to do, and what is involved before you start to proceed.
Before you open up your PS3, you need to make sure you are in an environment that doesn't generate static electricity. If you are not properly grounded, you could damage your PS3. You shouldn't work on your PS3 on a carpeted floor, but if you do be sure to wear shoes with thick rubber soles. Wearing an anti-static band when servicing your own PS3 is also a good idea.
NOTE
The following videos depict just the 80GB CECHE model, which is virtually the same inside as in the 60GB CECHA, 20GB CECHB, and the 60GB CECHC PS3.
The 40GB CECHG has a smaller motherboard inside, but is simular enough for you to follow along.
Bonus Video #1
Bonus Video #2
Tip #1
Replace the PS3 Power Supply with a more Power Efficient version
Inside the 60GB CECHA, 20GB CECHB, and the 80GB CECHE PS3 systems; it is possible you could have the ZSSR5391A power supply installed. (Picture shown on the right) You can easily identify this power supply from the others because of the large amount of ventallation holes it has all over it.Of the possible power supplies available to these systems, the ZSSR5319A is the least power efficient during the AC to DC conversion process, and as a result generates a lot of heat. I found it to be extremely hot to the touch, as hot as an iron!
If you happen to find you have the ZSSR5391A power supply model in your PlayStation 3, I highly suggest you exchange it with a more power efficient version as soon as possible.
Do not use the APS-227 power supply if you live outside a PAL territory, as that power supply can only function in those specific regions. The APS-226 is universally rated, so it can be used anywhere.
The theory of using a more energy efficient power supply comes from the idea that less heat will result in less "flexing" of the PlayStation 3 motherboard. Flexing could potentially cause damage, and result in having a YLOD issue.
Check out the table below for more technical information regarding the PS3 power supplies:

NOTE: I used to recommend the APS-231 power supply (found in the CECHG model) for the CECHA-CECHE models. While this power supply will work, and generates less heat, I recently found out that this power supply may eventually fail due to the added stress placed on it by the increased power demands of the older PS3 models. Because of this, and for better long-term reliability, I recommend just sticking with the APS-226 power supply.
This is the easiest tip to implement, since you don't fully disassemble the PS3, like you need to with the other tips. APS-226 power supplies are available for sale on both eBay and Amazon.
eBay: APS-226 Power Supply
Amazon: APS-226 Power Supply
Tip #2
Install the 19-blade PS3 Fan
And there is the 19-blade fan. Apparently PS3 made in Japan during the first few months of its initial release, had 19-blade fan installed standard. When Sony switched PS3 manufacturing over to China, they largely switched over the 15-blade one, although it is still possible to have a 19-blade fan.It is generally believed that the 19-blade fan moves a larger volume of air per minute (150% more), and tends to be a bit quieter than the 15-blade version.

While you probably need to replace your fan, you should verify that you need it first. Usually you need to nearly disassemble your entire PS3 to get a look at a the fan, but there is a trick to do it without opening up your PS3. What you need to do is to shine a very bright flashlight into the exhaust port on the back of the PS3, just above the serial number, in a dark room. Since the PS3 case is made of translucent plastic, you should be able to make out the silhouette of at least 1/4 of the blades on the PS3's fan (as shown in the picture on the right).If you multiply the number by 4, you should be able to estimate how many blades you have. Keep in mind the 19-blade fan has straight fins, where the 15-blade's fins are slightly curved.
Alternatively you can shine a flashlight directly on the surface of the PS3, where that fan is located. Because the PS3 shell is made of translucent plastic, you should be able to see a small area directly inside the PS3, and be able to count the fan blades. I find this method works best with a small and bright LED flashlight, pressed directly on the surface of the PlayStation 3.
While the 19-bladed fan is quieter, it is only by a few decibels. Don't expect your PS3 to be whisper quiet, but you can be sure your PS3 is getting a better airflow than it was before.
Be advised, the following will always cause the PlayStation 3's fan to run at the higher speeds:
* Playing a Blu-Ray movie in high definition.
* Playing a PlayStation 3 game in high definition.
* Playing an upscaled DVD movie in high definition.
* Playing an upscaled PlayStation 2 game in high definition.
* Playing your PS3 in a warm (>70°F/21°C) and humid environment.
Replacing your fan with the 19-blade version will enhance the benefits of the next tip (#3) and should be done togeather, for a better overall result. Replacement original used PS3 fans can be easily purchased from places like eBay and Amazon. Or if you prefer to buy a brand new PS3 19-blade fan instead, a company called Talismoon may still have some available for sale.
eBay: 19-Blade Fan
Amazon: 19-Blade fan
eBay: Tailsmoon Wisper fan
Amazon: Tailsmoon Wisper fan
Tip #3
Replace the Original Thermal Paste and the Thermal Pads
NOTE
One big sign that you need to replace your thermal grease ASAP, is if your PS3's system fan goes to the highest speed within 5 minutes after first turning the console on.
Another big sign is if cool air being exhausted from the back of the PS3.
If either of these signs applies to you, this indicates that the thermal grease is no longer properly transferring heat away from the PS3's main processors as it should. As a result your PS3 may overheat, damaging it and potentially causing the YLOD.
AS5 takes up to 200 hours to fully cure.What this means is that for the first 200 hours of use, you should only play the PS3 for 1-2 hours at a time, giving the unit 10-15 minute breaks between intervals. If you don't have the patience to do this, you could damage your system.
Most other available thermal compounds have little to no curing time.
MX-4 has no cure time, and it costs about the same price as AS5. MX-4 also has 2.4 times the thermal conductivity as Arctic Silver 5 (8.5 W/mk vs. 3.5 W/mk). What I like best about this paste is that it has a durability rating of 8 years, meaning that the performance of this product should not decrease over that period of time.
When the thermal paste is properly applied, the air exhausted from the PS3 will be very warm. This indicates to you that the thermal paste working as it should, and conducting heat away from the system.
Unless you have to, I suggest only replacing the thermal paste once. Because of its 8 year durability rating, a high quality paste like MX-4 should last you until well after the PlayStation 4 is released. If you attempt to reapply thermal paste on a device that already has a good quality paste applied, it can be very difficult to remove the heatsink easily because the paste forms a tight bond between the processors and the heatsink, like glue. You could potentially damage the motherboard from the force required to remove the heatsink. If you want to replace the paste anyway, you may want to first try running the PS3 for at least 30 minutes beforehand. When the PS3 heats up it may soften the paste up, making it easier to pull the heatsink apart.
As far as application of the thermal compound goes, I would suggest that a pea sized amount ~8mm in diameter (I used an engineering stincil to measure this amount) be placed in the center of the PS3's CELL & RSX processors. In this manner the compound will spread out smoothly and evenly, when you reattatch the heatsink back on the motherboard, preventing air pockets from forming in the paste (that can counteract the proper thermal transfer process).
It is not necessary to cover the whole surface when the thermal paste spreads, because most of the heat is concentrated around the core area which is at the center. Therefore the center of the chips are the most important part to target. In the picture below are the CELL (left) and RSX (right) processors with the heatspreaders removed. As you can see in the picture, the actual processors are located in the center, and that is where most of the heat is concentrated.

You can always apply larger amount of MX-4 if you are concerned and want to ensure complete coverage of the processors. If any excess paste happens to spill onto the motherboard, it will be fine since MX-4 is made of totally non-conductive ingredients.
See this video below, for a demonstration on how thermal paste spreads when applied:
eBay: MX-4 Thermal Compound
Amazon: MX-4 Thermal Compound
You should also consider replace the thermal pads on the PS3 motherboard. Thermal pads help facilitate the transfer of heat away from other key chips on the PS3 motherboard to the heatsink. Apparently your PS3 can also get a YLOD condition if one of these pads fails to work as it is suppose to.The thermal pads Sony has installed in the PS3 doesn't do a great job in removing heat from the motherboard. There are better quality thermal pads available that are several times more effective. The recommended thermal pads for example (linked below), are rated to be up to five times more effective in transferring heat, and when used in combination with a high quality thermal paste, can help lower the overall temperature of the PS33's motherboard by up to 10-15 degrees.
This thermal pad is sold in a sheet, where you can cut it to the proper size. As shown in the picture above, there is more than enough to cover the chips on a CECHA motherboard.
Even if you decide not to replace your pads right now, make sure you at least have themal pads attached to these areas, before you put your PS3 back togeather, or it may overheat.
Pictured below are the highlighted areas on the 60GB CECHA PlayStaion 3 motherboard, where the thermal pads need to be placed. If you are working with a different PS3 model, please pay careful attention to where the pads are located when you first open up your system.


You will get a good indication that your thermal paste/thermal pad installation is working properly when the fan speed goes up and down while you are playing a game, and drops soon after you quit a game. This indicates that heat is being conducted away from the PlayStation 3 in a very efficient and effective manner.
An YLOD prevention kit is also available that includes thermal paste, thermal pads, anti-static gloves, cleaning supplies, and the key tools you will need to complete Tip #3 on your system.
eBay: High Performance Thermal Pad
Amazon: High Performance Thermal Pad
Amazon: YLOD Prevention Kit
Amazon: 4pc Tool Kit for PlayStation 3
How These Tips Stack Up
In order of importance:
1.Thermal paste and thermal pads
2. Fan
3. Power supply
In ease of accomplishment:
1. Power supply
2. Fan
3. Thermal paste and thermal pads
Bonus Tip
Air Flow Modification
This tip modifies the air flow of the PS3, by allowing air to flow directly to the system fan, rather than indirectly through the front vents of the console. This is accomplished through drilling a series of ventilation holes in the system case directly under the system fan. By doing this the PS3 is able to cool itself with a larger volume of air than it normally would. Apparently, the PS3 will overall run 20+ degrees cooler by doing this modification.
In my personal testing of this mod, I have found that my PS3 is able to stay at the lower fan speeds longer, and is able to cool itself down much faster than it normally would. This bonus tip really helps amplify the effects of Tips 2 & 3.
This is an advanced level modification of the PS3, and is only recommended for highly skilled individuals. Fortunately for everyone else, Endless Electronics offers this modification for sale. They call it the X-Flow Fan Modification. You can see a picture of this modification below.

The Following Regards PS3 Models:
40GB (CECHH)
40GB (CECHJ)
80GB (CECHK)
80GB (CECHL)
80GB (CECHM)
160GB (CECHP)
160GB (CECHQ)
If you want to change the fan or thermal paste on PS3 models CECHH-CECHQ, you need to be very careful. The reason is that performing either of these tips requires the heatsink to be removed, which can be quite difficult to reattach on these PS3 models. If it is not re-assembled properly, thermal conduction between the CPU/GPU; the heatsink could be compromised, and you would then be worse off than you were to begin with. I have read many accounts in the PlayStation.com forums, where people have reported that this issue happen to them.
Although it is still very important have the thermal paste and pads replaced on these models, I recommend that you should have a place like Endless Electronics do it for you. This company has the expertise to apply new thermal paste and reattach the heatsinks back on properly.
Have these tips performed for you professionally
Along with changing the thermal pads and thermal paste, Endless Electronics now sells and installs the APS-226 power supply (Tip #1) and 19-blade fan (Tip #2), if you just want to have one or two parts replaced individually. If you wish to have all three of these tips done at once (plus the X-Flow Fan Modification), Endless Electronics offers all of this at a discount, with their Component Upgrade Package. If you also require a YLOD repair, you get an additional 10% off that service when you order this package.
If are interested in the Component upgrade package, use this form to contact them to make all the necessary arrangements. So if you want a professional installation of these tips (all backed up with a warranty), this is the recommended way to go.
The video below shows what is contained in the Component Upgrade Package in detail.
What if I already have the YLOD?
Performing a reflow of the solder on your PS3 can work and will repair your system in many cases. The problem with reflowing is eventually the YLOD problem will return, because over time the process of the chip heating and cooling will cause the "Lead Free" solder to fail again.
With Reflowing, no new solder is applied and the chip is not removed. The chip is just reheated so that the solder will melt and hopefully reconnect the joints. Be advised that if you attempt a reflow yourself (using DYI guides), you could easily damage your PS3 if you perform it incorrectly. This would make it harder to fix your PS3 through reballing, if you choose that later.
With Reballing, all the old solder is removed. The chip and the motherboard is then cleaned and brand new "Leaded" solder is later applied. Using Leaded solder makes this repair stronger than the original lead free solder, and your system should last for a very long time.
Although sending your PS3 back to Sony will fix your YLOD problems, chances are they will come back again. Here's why, Sony still uses "Lead Free" solder. If you have a PS3 Fat model, you will get back a PS3 Fat model using the same solder that can crack once again. The only way to solve this problem is to have your PS3 chips re-balled using "Leaded" solder. Leaded solder is far superior in strength and will never crack or melt under the CPU's temp. I have read many accounts of people's refurbished systems breaking down soon after the 90 day warranty on these systems has expired. Sony typically charges $100-$150 for an out of warranty repair.
Endless Electronics also performs reball repairs on the PS3. They are registered with the BBB and have high customer satisfaction. Not only are their prices very reasonable, but they also offer a lifetime warranty option, so if your system ever gets the YLOD again they will fix it again for free. No other company that I know of offers this kind of guarantee on reball repair. If you decide to get your PS3 reballed, I recommend getting their "Level Two" YLOD repair service.
Endless Electronics is also the only repair company that I know of that will repair and offer a warranty (if they are able to repair it) on consoles that have been opened and/or have had a previous repair attempt made. Most repair companies will either not repair a system with the warranty seal broken, or not offer any kind of substantial warranty on their repairs.
Conclusion
Comments & Questions
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Luiz
May 23, 2012 @ 1:55 am | delete
- My ps3 is a cechl01 and i do not know here the thermal pads are located in mine. I never saw then when i opened... Does anyone know?
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aaronprather May 23, 2012 @ 11:05 pm | delete
- I suggest you contact Endless Electronics, they should have the answer to your question...
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jethrow31
May 22, 2012 @ 10:57 pm | delete
- Hey pal, how do fix a no sound no video on a 80gb
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aaronprather May 22, 2012 @ 11:34 pm | delete
- I'm sorry I don't know. You need to seek the services of a repair company.
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virgil79 May 22, 2012 @ 6:41 pm | delete
- hey i have quick question i redid my cousin ps3 model # CECHE01 with AS5 ,but before i did all of that hes ps3 want to red blinking light but no yellow light after he try about two months with unchanted 3 now he can play madden 10 and all of that but when he tryed unchanted 2 about 30 mins later it want to blinking red light but he can stall turn it back on i redid the peaste it stll goes to blinking red light but no yellow light what do you thank it is thanks
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aaronprather May 22, 2012 @ 7:21 pm | delete
- It soulds like that PS3 is overheating. You need to take appart the PS3 again, put new paste down and put it back togeather carefully. Just follow the videos on this page step-by-step...
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virgil79 May 22, 2012 @ 8:15 pm | delete
- i take it apart and put new peate down about 2 days ago but it stall turn off
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aaronprather May 22, 2012 @ 11:32 pm | delete
- I think there was a problem when you put the PS3 back together, because it is overheating. You need to try it again.
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virgil79 May 23, 2012 @ 10:25 pm | delete
- hey could the psu or the fan be going out becasue it was doing the same thing before i did the paste
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aaronprather May 23, 2012 @ 11:03 pm | delete
- If the fan doesn't work the PS3 would overheat within 5 minutes. It is possible that the PSU might be faulty, but I don't think that is likely...
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Just Making Sure - again
May 21, 2012 @ 11:45 pm | delete
- Aaron -
Sorry to be "duh" about this, but I will replace the thermal pads. Is there anything I should know in removing the old ones?
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aaronprather May 22, 2012 @ 12:23 am | delete
- Not really, the old thermal pads are held in place by a very light adhesive. They should peal right off...
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nikkyb123
May 21, 2012 @ 6:33 pm | delete
- Hi there,
I recently replaced the thermal paste on my 40gb PS3. After about 30 minutes the screen went fuzzy and then froze on me. I turned it off and back on and had no image whatsoever.
I took it apart again, used some flux and a heatgun for the heatsinks and then added more thermal paste. The PS3 then started working again but after 30 mins it did exactly the same.
I've read that the GPU could quite possibly be ruined. What do you think?
Cheers
Nik
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aaronprather May 21, 2012 @ 11:31 pm | delete
- That is definately possible, I don't advise using a heatgun on a PS3 because of that distinct possibility.
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Just Making SUre
May 21, 2012 @ 10:42 am | delete
- Hey there .
It is has been a while since I've asked you about this issue. I have the 40 Gig model. I had replaced the Thermal Paste last year - using IC Diamond 7 thermal paste. I have measured the hot air coming out of my unit - 115-120 Fareheight. The fan is in low mode after 5 minutes - medium at 15 minutes, and almost high when playing games and movies, and stays at that speed until I power off.
This has been going on for months, and I wonder if I should be concerned, and replace the thermal paste, and pads. Is this behavior OK, since this is an older model.
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aaronprather May 21, 2012 @ 10:47 am | delete
- It sounds to me your PS3 is behaving as it should.
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Little_Luck
May 20, 2012 @ 8:53 pm | delete
- Seeking advice, hope you can help me out. got an old 80 GB fat. worked great for years. recently got an YLOD. after a few hours of research, and not being an entire novice with electronics. I reflowed the board. That part went well. unit booted up for all of 5 minutes with the fan progressively staging up until hitting the system overheat ceiling and powering off. More research revealed that the cheap thermal paste i used wasnt doing the job. So I went out and put some AS5 on it. Now the strange part happens:
After reassembly, when turning on the master power, the unit automatically turns on with a solid green light and single beep. fan spins briefly and after about 5 seconds the green light blinks once with a single beep again. After another 5 seconds the unit powers off to a solid red standby light. At this point none of the buttons operate and only resetting the master power switch makes the unit re-attempt a boot. no audio or video output during any of this. Any thoughts on probable cause?
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aaronprather May 20, 2012 @ 11:44 pm | delete
- Sorry, I don't have any idea what the problem is. The only thing I can suggest is that you take it apart and put it back togeather again, in case you did something wrong. If that doesn't work, it is probably time to have a repair place try to fix your system...
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Little Luck
May 23, 2012 @ 8:46 pm | delete
- Just so's y'all know. that behaviour I described is what happens when you put the ribbon between the button board and the mainboard in backwards
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virgil79 May 16, 2012 @ 3:14 am | delete
- hey nice i redone my PS3 CECHK01 MODEL with arctic silver 5 i have used it for 40 hours so fear so good thanks for this help me out i hope it keep kicking so i used it for 40 hours so fear what do you thank i fan has never kick up so fear after the repast i been playing la noire the most thanks again
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aaronprather May 16, 2012 @ 7:37 am | delete
- It sounds like you did a good job.
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Steven-CodeBlack
May 15, 2012 @ 11:07 pm | delete
- Occasionally off and on I've heard the fan motor in my PS3 hum/whine louder then normal and I have a feeling that means the heat sink may need more thermal compound applied to it soon after all its not too late to prevent YLOD from happening until it already has happened right? just wanna make sure so for now I'm just gonna lay off running my PS3 to keep from stressing it until I can get some work done on it I tried to post about this before but I didn't see the comment come up sorry if you see this twice
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aaronprather May 16, 2012 @ 7:39 am | delete
- It isn't too late to put down thermal paste. Once you get the YLOD, you will have to make arrangements to have it repaired.
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Steven-CodeBlack
May 22, 2012 @ 3:16 pm | delete
- I'd ratther just have thermal paste put down on the GPU I have a feeling that its the heat sink on that which may need more because whenever I do anything on the PS3 which requires the GPU to work that's when it'll start whining within less then an hour or so after having turned my PS3 on I also at first for a short period of time felt cool air blowing out the back vent of it near where the power supply and AVI input cord connects to the back of the console in the back vents near it which I also read somewhere that that's another warning sign so until I get some preventive maintenance done I'm not gonna run my PS3 either way there is no point where YLOD is 100 guaranteed to happen if it hasn't already happened is there?
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aaronprather May 22, 2012 @ 5:41 pm | delete
- I'm not sure what your question is, but you should put thermal paste on both the CPU & GPU, plus change the thermal pads to get the best overall result. YLOD isn't 100% guaranteed to happen, but it is more likely when these measures are not taken...
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Naz
May 15, 2012 @ 2:21 am | delete
- To my original question.. "Hey, after reading this Tut".
The ps3 blows out warm/cool air out. The back feel pretty warm where the heat sinks are.
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aaronprather May 16, 2012 @ 7:46 am | delete
- I'm a little confused about when you state your ps3 blows out "warm/cool" air. The air should be warm to hot. Also your fan speeds are a little high, given the room temperature. You might want to try this proceedure again, or have it done for you professionally.
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Naz
May 15, 2012 @ 2:18 am | delete
- Hey, after reading this Tut and the thermal paste i went to change mine. I went with AS5 and applied a bit more than in the video. About twice as much, in he center and a horizontal line. I compressed it to be best, and even bent the clamps a bit to provide more preasure.
I have the Cechk01 model.
After about 10-20 mins in the xmb, the fan speeds up to about speed 4-5. Room temp is about 72-74'F.
Is that normal?
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Christopher
May 13, 2012 @ 3:08 pm | delete
- My fat 40gb ps3 shut off after about 5 minutes with the red blinking light. I was able to turn it back on but am afraid of using it as I don't want the YLOD. Question about the psu, do you mean the fan never comes on when you start the system?
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aaronprather May 13, 2012 @ 11:11 pm | delete
- Yes the fan never comes on when you start the system if the PSU is the cause of the YLOD...
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Anthony
May 12, 2012 @ 10:11 pm | delete
- Can I rule out the power supply being bad if I still get a red power light on the front when my ps3 is plugged in? (it has the ylod, replaced the thermal paste, still has ylod). Thanks!
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aaronprather May 12, 2012 @ 10:57 pm | delete
- If the YLOD is caused by the power supply, I from what I understand you can't hear the fan spin up when you first turn it on.
Also if you have the YLOD, you can't just replace the thermal paste and expect it to be fixed. Most likely the GPU has to be reflowed (or perferably reballed) to fix the YLOD.
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lionel
May 3, 2012 @ 2:36 am | delete
- Very helpful tutorial!
I followed all the steps, plus I also took out the heatspreader on the RSX, and removed all glue and put some MX-4 on it. After doing all, my PS3 still runs with quite loud fan noise after 5-10 minutes in XMB (level 3 fan speed perhaps), should I be worried about that? Could it be that my PS3 is just always noisy? Answers will be highly appreciated, thanks! I have the CECHC 60GB model, it already had a 19 blades fan.
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aaronprather May 3, 2012 @ 10:51 am | delete
- You are probably fine. Unless the room temperature is below 20C, you are going to hear the PS3's fan, because the normally run very hot.
You might also want to consider buying new thermal pads to improve your results.
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Paul
Apr 27, 2012 @ 10:44 pm | delete
- Great write-up! I have learned a lot and put most of it to use on my ps3s.
question: i read somewhere about removing the heatpreaders on the GPU and CPU to apply new thermal paste/thermal glue underneath. have you ever done this, or is it something you would recommend a) as preventative maintenance, or b) after performing a heat gun reflow (i read the heat can breakdown the paste underneath)
also, has anyone ever made a printable template for an x-flow type drill pattern?
thanks for your time and effort!
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aaronprather Apr 27, 2012 @ 11:38 pm | delete
- As it is presented in this guide I advocate thermal paste be applied as preventative maintenence. If you were to do a reflow, you would remove the old thermal paste first, and then later apply new thermal paste.
I have not seen a template available for the X-flow, you may want to contact Endless Electronics about that.
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Paul
Apr 28, 2012 @ 11:16 pm | delete
- thanks for the response, but i was referring to underneath the heatspreaders on top of the GPU/CPU.
the paste between the heatspreader and the heatsink is of course changed as per your guide, but what about the paste between the actual processors and the heatspreaders?
thanks!
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aaronprather May 3, 2012 @ 1:45 am | delete
- My understanding is that what is under the heatspreaders is just glue. I don't advise you attempt to pry off the heatspreaders, because you may damage the motherboard in the process..
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Steven-CodeBlack
Apr 19, 2012 @ 8:40 pm | delete
- I have a CECHA01 Model PS3 which I've replaced the disc drive in twice the first time it was a no spin the second time the drive board went bad causing calibration problems in my PS3 I've got that fixed currently it works whenever I turn it on but occasionally as I turn it on and off I notice it will sometimes make clicking noises I remember when i had the CD drive replaced the first time almost a year ago I had them reapply the thermal paste but I want to make sure nothing else is getting ready to go bad again so what does this mean also how do I contact EE to send my PS3 in if necessary I"m 20 and live in Chillicothe Ohio
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aaronprather Apr 27, 2012 @ 9:54 am | delete
- I wouldn't worry too much about the Blu-Ray drive, if it is operating normally.
You can contact EE by emailing them at: support@endlesselectronics.org
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Steven-CodeBlack
May 15, 2012 @ 10:58 pm | delete
- OK also it seems like now the fan may occasionally off and on start humming/whining louder then normal so I think it may be time to re apply the thermal paste to the heat sink of the CPU/GPU its never too late to stop YLOD from happening until its already happened right? Just want to make sure
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els
Apr 19, 2012 @ 12:59 am | delete
- i have got ylod 3 times now within 3 weeks is it time to give up? what other techniques can you use for reballing?
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aaronprather Apr 19, 2012 @ 10:43 am | delete
- I think you have reballing confused with reflowing. Reflowing is the DIY method people use with a heatgun to fix a YLOD, but the fix is almost always temporary. Reballing is a complex repair, and it can only be done properly by certain repair places. Please read the section: "What if I already have the YLOD?" to find out the differences between a reball and reflow...
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io911c
Apr 18, 2012 @ 11:54 am | delete
- Thanks for the great tips.
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Ryan
Apr 15, 2012 @ 4:05 am | delete
- hello aaron i have been looking at endless electronics website and they have 3 different hdd upgrades a regular hdd upgrade,a hybrid hdd, and a solid state drive which would be the best for speed and efficiency in a 60 gb fat ps3 ?
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aaronprather Apr 15, 2012 @ 10:11 am | delete
- From what I read a solid state drive would be slightly faster than a standard hard drive, but only by a few seconds. IMO I prefer to get the most HDD space for the money. You have to decide for yourself what is more important for yourself..
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jethrow31
Apr 14, 2012 @ 2:33 am | delete
- Hey guys im back with another question.....on my cechk01 80gb do you replace the thermal paste on RSX cell or leave it alone....anybody have an answer or tips........thanx
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aaronprather Apr 14, 2012 @ 9:29 am | delete
- Yes you replace the thermal paste on both the RSX & CELL processors, especially since the original thermal paste put on by Sony tends to dry up after a few years of use.
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jethrow31
Apr 12, 2012 @ 3:49 am | delete
- what is the best thermal paste to on my 80gb cechk01.......as5 or mx-4 any tips please let me knw.......thanx
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aaronprather Apr 12, 2012 @ 10:33 am | delete
- As stated in the article I recommend MX-4, please read Tip# 3 for the reasons why.
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Brad
Apr 8, 2012 @ 2:52 pm | delete
- What changes would you recommend to make a 80gb fat CECHK model run more efficiently in maintaining a cooler temp? Do I need to change the fan? The power supply? etc. Any tips on what I can improve and what doesn't need any changes?
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aaronprather Apr 8, 2012 @ 5:29 pm | delete
- As I stated in the artilce, new thermal pads and thermal paste are an absolute must. Replacing the fan isn't as necessary for your model, and you definately don't need to replace your power supply
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Brad
Apr 8, 2012 @ 9:52 pm | delete
- Thanks, appreciate it.
Also, I'd like you to know I'm impressed with your article, and of the communication you have with your readers. Best article for PS3 maintenance I could find, keep up the good work!
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JAY48
Apr 7, 2012 @ 11:43 pm | delete
- Hi Aaron,
Just thought I'd add my experience with another mod that I did to my PS3 to aid cooling; I drilled small holes on the rear casing just above the cooling fan so more air will be regulated to the fan. This was done in September/October along with the 19blade fan swap & IC Diamond 7 application. I took my PS3 apart for maintenance yesterday and I noticed that the fan had slight marks where the holes were located. These marks are from dust particles that had found its way to the fan frame and will not rub off.
Just a FYI to those who are thinking about doing this mod.
Regards
JAY
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Chris
Apr 7, 2012 @ 12:31 pm | delete
- If I have a Ylod'd PS3 fat and i reball it could I then do all the steps in this guide to further prevent future Ylod and general overheating?
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aaronprather Apr 7, 2012 @ 9:25 pm | delete
- In short, yes...
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Chris
Mar 30, 2012 @ 5:25 pm | delete
- Hey aaronprather
first of this is a really awesome and well thought through article! I appreciate that a lot.
My issue is the following: I got a CECHC04 60gb and just recently got the high performance thermal pads from EE. While installing them I noticed that some of the original pads are like 0.5mm thicker than the ones from EE. My question is can I replace them with the new ones from EE although they're slightly thinner?
Also why does no one talk about changing the blu-ray drive's thermal pad? Can I change that one as well or is it simply not necessary?
Thanks
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aaronprather Mar 30, 2012 @ 7:58 pm | delete
- Yes you can replace all the pads, regardless of how thick (or thin) they are, what is more important is that the new pads are more efficient in transferring heat than the older ones.
As far a I know, the Blu-Ray drive doesn't have a thermal pad, I think what you are refering to is a pad used for shock absorbtion. It shouldn't hurt anything if you choose to replace that pad anyway.
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Chris
Mar 31, 2012 @ 5:32 am | delete
- So it doesn't matter if the metal frame (those 2 big grids that go around the whole motherboard when put together) is not touching the thermal pads?
Concerning the blu-ray drive's thermal pad, I asked EE the same question and they told me that it is different and that I shouldn't change it.
If you're still interested, here you can see it
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/nickmitch24/DSCF0440thumb.jpg (you can see it on the right border)
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/nickmitch24/DSCF0442thumb.jpg (it's right under the shock absorbtion parts that you mentioned)
note that this may only be true for the CECHC04
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aaronprather Mar 31, 2012 @ 11:08 am | delete
- Ideally the thermal pads should come into contact with the metal shell that goes around the motherboard, so it helps conduct the heat away. If it doesn't, you may want to consider doubling up on the thermal pads to make them thicker, but you should probably ask EE about that first...
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Chris
Apr 1, 2012 @ 7:19 am | delete
- the resulting pressure from the heatsinks and all the other screws is enough to close the gap between the metal shell and the thermal pads.
So it's just like you said, thanks!
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sheldon
Mar 27, 2012 @ 1:43 am | delete
- yes hi i have the cechg01 model and i can play my games i can play them but after awhile its like dont want to load the game anymore. like i play black ops zombies online and it loads up and everything but when i try to get a gun on the map i get the gun but it doesnt show that i have one like there is a glitch in the game or something.
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aaronprather Mar 28, 2012 @ 2:13 am | delete
- I can't really tell what is going on, basesd on your description...
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sheld
Mar 28, 2012 @ 2:33 pm | delete
- ok i think its my blue- ray drive. my game will load but than things wont load like they should. like the sound and other items after the start of the game. like i get the items but there invisible you cant see them
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aaronprather Mar 28, 2012 @ 9:59 pm | delete
- I agree it could be your Blu-Ray drive, it could also be your HDD since many games are dependent on that also.
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Johnczar1
Mar 25, 2012 @ 1:50 am | delete
- My PS3 stopped working today. I shut the back power switch off and turn it back on. The front red light goes on. when I power it on, the light goes green, but nothing shows on the screen(black). I also don't hear the fan running the way it used to be. Opened it up tons of dust everywhere. Cleaned it and tried again. Immediately felt some hot air at the back and faint burning plastic smell. Thinking my fan went, but would that cause the screen to go black. Don't want to replace it if there is a larger issue. Any help appreciated
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aaronprather Mar 25, 2012 @ 4:02 am | delete
- Try reseting the video by holding down the power button until it beeps a second time, you should see something on the screen. If that doesn't work, I don't know what your issue is...
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JOHNCZAR1
Mar 26, 2012 @ 11:19 pm | delete
- I tried that, nothing came up. I read somewhere that the ps3 recognizes the fan as a motor and shuts down if it is not working. Ordered a fan online and will redo the thermal paste as well. No YLOD, so I;m hoping these work. Thanks
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johnczar1
Apr 6, 2012 @ 2:24 am | delete
- I replaced my fan and thermal paste, reassembled and got YLOD with blinking red light. Reflowed with heat gun, Now unit turns on get green light. Can insert disc and get blue light on. Fan is running as well as can hear blue ray drive spinning. Just nothing on screen. Tried connecting composite jack to tv, i get a quick flash of light on the screen and nothing else. If I hold power button to try to reset video, I only get 3 rapid beeps that's it. I need to continue to hold it for about 8 sec to get it to turn off. Any ideas. I do appreciate the help
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aaronprather Apr 6, 2012 @ 3:26 am | delete
- I think it is time for you to seek the skills of a professional, because I'm afraid I don't have any more idea's for you, sorry....
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justtryingtohelp
Mar 27, 2012 @ 3:58 am | delete
- hey johnczar1 I've had the black screen problem off and on since I got my system, don't buy a referb. But I've found it happens a lot with hdmi and if I use component which is still 1080i just not p. Anyway, plug in the component cable into the ps3 and your tv. Unplug the hdmi. boot hold the power to reset the video. It probably won't do anything. then plug the hdmi back in and reset. It usually will pull up the hdmi detected screen, switch the video to component and unplug the hdmi. And that my friend has worked for me.
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johnczar1
Apr 1, 2012 @ 10:24 pm | delete
- The blue ray drive doesnt sound like it is running when I put a disc in. No fan noise either. Thanks
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johnczar1
Apr 1, 2012 @ 10:21 pm | delete
- I replaced the fan and the thermal paste. Reassembled it. Turned it on. Got a green light, blinked yellow once, and then blinked red. Nothing else happened. I'm assuming this is the YLOD. Is the correct fix the heat gun for approx 30 on the CPU and GPU. Do you need to do both sides of the board too? Also there are those 2 rectangular boxes with the black tape on them. Do they need the heat gun too? Thank you
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aaronprather Apr 1, 2012 @ 11:29 pm | delete
- The heatgun might work, but I don't recommend it because it is a temporary fix at best, or you might ruin the motherboard altogeather.
The best fix is to have your PS3 reballed by a repair company like Endless Electronics...
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Nukelear
Apr 2, 2012 @ 5:02 pm | delete
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr1zyAGwnuU
I followed this video and it worked (but without using the tips in this article it only held for about a month in my case..) As you can see it's about 2 min warming up whole board then 5 min concentrating on CPU and GPU.
Just watch the video and immitate. :)
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jethrow31
Mar 21, 2012 @ 7:41 pm | delete
- Mr. Arron....ive did everything you ask tha correct way but the fan high speed but not crazy speed i watched a blu-ray lastnite it did wonderful now this mornin i put in ncaa 12....after 25mins of play thats when the fan speeds up wat else to do the fan sounds good andthe back of it not blowin hot but warm air thts a plus.....do i need to upgrade my fan or redo my as5 compound...please help...my system is a cechk01 80gb fat boy everthing still looks brand new and dust free
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aaronprather Mar 21, 2012 @ 9:11 pm | delete
- If it takes 25 min. for the fan speeds to go up, then you are probably fine. You won't be able to keep the fan speed down normally, unless you play in a refrigerated room.
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jethrow31
Mar 21, 2012 @ 10:47 pm | delete
- after playing for awhile it shut off again but no ylod any other suggestions
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aaronprather Mar 21, 2012 @ 11:35 pm | delete
- As I said on this page, models like yours can be difficult to put back together properly, so that the heatsink has proper contact with the chips. So I suggest you try it again, or seek the help of a professional repair company like Endless Electronics....
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The Barber
Mar 19, 2012 @ 4:15 pm | delete
- Hello! These are really awesome and informative videos! PLEASE, IF ANYONE CAN GIVE ME AN ANSWER, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT! Here goes: I have a ps3 fat model that I bought new in november of 2008. So, Ive had it for around 3 and a half years. My question is this: The fan has started working harder and like one of the points mentioned above, it starts to kick into full gear just a few minutes after I turn it on (approx. 5-10 min). The air that it pushes out is very warm though, so I guess thats a good thing? Because its circulating hot air out? But Im wondering if its suppoed to be VERY hot under my ps3? I can still put my hand under it, but its very unconfortable due to the heat. Is that normal? Do you guys think I have to worry about YLOD or my ps3 only needs to be cleaned? Again, my main concern is the fan working extra hard, like, its very loud and alot of heat is being given off yet underneath, the ps3 is extremely hot... I would appreciate any advice. Thank you.
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aaronprather Mar 19, 2012 @ 7:59 pm | delete
- The bottom of your PS3 should get very warm, because that is where the heatsink is located. Since your system fan is going to the high speed in that short period of time, it does suggest to me that the thermal paste may be drying out and needs to be replaced. If you have the PS3 model CECHH-CECHL, you probably need to have a repair shop do it for you rather than you doing it yourself.
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ChrisShaefer Mar 18, 2012 @ 8:22 pm | delete
- Hello,
You have out done yourself on this lens. It is very informative and I love the layout of it.
Great work, I appreciate a well done lens. Please stop by my new "Multivitamins for Psoriasis"
lens it really needs some love. Thanks and please keep up with such great content.
Chris
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LJ.
Mar 17, 2012 @ 1:18 pm | delete
- Also, if it cannot be fixed how do i get the game out that i was playing when it died? Thanks again.
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LJ
Mar 17, 2012 @ 1:15 pm | delete
- Ps3 quite working in the middle of a game and powered off, i restarted and it worked fine the rest of the evening. when i attempted to restart the next morning it came on for about 6-7minutes then powered back off and will not restart for any longer than 2seconds. Im aware that this is the YLOD my question is can endless electronics fix this?and if so would it be worthwhile to fix or simply buy a newer system considering this unit is about 6-7 years old (cech a01). And also if it can be fixed for a reasonable price will it still have everything on it just like when it shutdown on me ie: musicpictures,downloads,etc.? Thanks your article is very good and will be recc. to my friends.
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aaronprather Mar 17, 2012 @ 1:26 pm | delete
- The chances of Endless Electronics fixing your system is quite high, especially if you never attempted to repair it yourself before.
I would say your system is worthwhile to fix, espcially if you value PS2 backwards compatibity. EE can fix your PS3 cheaper and more reliably than Sony, and will retain your hard drive data (Sony always wipes your data).
EE can retrieve your game and send it back to you (just make a note of it when you send your system in).
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jethrow31
Mar 17, 2012 @ 12:49 am | delete
- no ylod yet but 80gb ps3 fan go crazy after 5mins then shuts off
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jethrow31
Mar 17, 2012 @ 12:41 am | delete
- Does anyone have a answer...my 80gb ps3 keep shutting off but doesnt have ylod yet and also my fan go crazy whenever i play games.....can anyone help
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aaronprather Mar 17, 2012 @ 3:06 am | delete
- It sounds like your PS3 is overheating. I suggest you at a minimum change your thermal paste and your thermal pads. You should get good results this way.
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jethrow31
Mar 17, 2012 @ 6:03 am | delete
- Thanx...one more thing will this solution stop my fan speed from goin crazy...and how much artic silver 5 do i use
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aaronprather Mar 17, 2012 @ 1:36 pm | delete
- This method should prevent the fan from going to the highest speed so quickly. Bonus Video #1 details how much AS5 to use.
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jethrow31
Mar 21, 2012 @ 12:38 am | delete
- Im back again...on my ps3 80gb i took everything apart and put the arctic silver 5 compund on....now its running smooth and i think it changed speed one time due to playing blu-rays..is tht normal...and one question Arron whats the cure time bf i can play for hrs cause i play alot of COD MW3.......thanx
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aaronprather Mar 21, 2012 @ 12:49 am | delete
- It sound like your PS3 is running better/normal. The cure time for AS5 is 200 hours.
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Jason
Mar 15, 2012 @ 10:37 pm | delete
- My PS3 got the YLOD while there was a power outage and my PS3 wasn't ON... Do I just need to change the power supply?
Sorry if I my English is bad :p
And thanks in advance
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Jason
Mar 15, 2012 @ 10:40 pm | delete
- I forgot! My PS3 is FAT 80GB CECHE01. What power supply would you recomend?
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aaronprather Mar 15, 2012 @ 11:14 pm | delete
- I'm sorry but there is no way to tell how you got the YLOD. Many people seem to get it when they turn their PS3 on after being off. If your power supply needs replacement, you won't be able to hear the fan spin when you turn it on.
The recommended power supply for your system is the APS-226...
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zah
Mar 17, 2012 @ 10:04 pm | delete
- 80GB fat boy, sprayed dust out, replaced thermal paste, original fan but added thermaltake temp control fans
How much cooler between APS-226 vs ZSSR5391A power supply?
And how much cooler with Talismoon vs original fan?
Maybe 5, 10, or 15 degrees?
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aaronprather Mar 17, 2012 @ 11:46 pm | delete
- I don't know the answer to your questions. I do know that the APS-226 is significantly cooler than the ZSSR5391A. I stated in this article that the 19 blade fan moves 150% more air than the 15 blade fan...
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Death_by_Blonde
Mar 13, 2012 @ 9:18 am | delete
- On which system are you referring to? The 160GB Slim will reformat either automatically at startup and I have manually done it as well either through the selection on the XMB menu under Settings and through performing a Safe Mode Boot.
I am in able to do a HDD reformat on the FAT due to the lack of time the system will stay on. I am trying to convince my husband that my technically skills are maxed out at this point and that a trip to Endless Electronics is what it needs, but after spending $100+ on the 60GB, $200 on the rip of artist's 160GB, and $280 on the brand new extended service 160GB I am reluctant to spend $100-$150 on possible repairs just for the FAT and whatever $$$ is going to be required on the fancy paper weight...the money tree in my backyard is currently not in bloom...please help? Thank you so my much! Honestly...you are my go-to techie...
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Paul
Mar 13, 2012 @ 9:01 am | delete
- Will the PS3 HDD reformat after disassembling the PS3 (after applying thermal paste)?
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aaronprather Mar 13, 2012 @ 12:41 pm | delete
- No, it will only reformat the hard drive if it wasn't originally formatted by that PS3.
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