Carbon Copy Pro Vs Reverse Funnel System

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Carbon Copy Pro Vs Reverse Funnel System

We've all heard it said that "People Fail -- Systems Don't".

But, can the new "Automated Systems" actually work? 

In the online network marketing industry, duplication has always been "an issue".  In fact, duplication is downright difficult because so much of it is dependent upon "Personal Branding" and for the newbie marketer this is foreign language to them, which causes the 97% failure rate among new online marketers.

So, in August 2007, a man by the name of Ty Coughlin set-out to change all of that when he introduced the (RFS) Reverse Funnel, a marketing model that attempts to solve the duplication problem by placing all the focus directly on the shoulders of Ty.

Well, now, we have another player entering the field: (CCP) Carbon Copy Pro  and this player is not just placing the focus on one person, as the Reverse Funnel did, but it is placing it on a whole TEAM of very successful marketers.

Marketers like Mike Dillard of "Magnetic Sponsoring" fame. And Jay Kubassek, who skyrocketed to success in Liberty League before transitioning over to WMI. And former Investment Banker/Mortgage Banker, Andrew Cass.

A team of 11 total top marketers who got together and invested over $50K in a system to solve the duplication problem -- and to compete with the Reverse Funnel, which beat them to the punch by coming out 2 months earlier!

In this lens, I will show you exactly how each system works -- the good, the bad, and the ugly.

If you would like to speak with me directly, you can reach my home office at:

(805) 201-6320.

Things to be Addressed by this Type of System 

Basically, there are 5 major marketing concerns addressed by this type of Automated System and the 5th, the most important factor.

These are:

1) Credibility

2) Running out of funds before making a sale

3) Need to become a master salesman

4) The Marketing

5) The importance of who you team up with

Credibility - The "Catch 22" for New Marketers 

Funny thing about network marketing is that everyone wants to join "the Top Leader"... because the leader has a credible story.

But, as you can imagine, this puts the "newbie" marketer at a HUGE disadvantage -- he has trouble getting business since everyone else is seeking out "the leader" who has a real success story, so it is only obvious why most would rather join the top guy! This is one of the biggest contributing factors to the 97% failure rate normally seen in this industry.

But, systems like Carbon Copy Pro and the Reverse Funnel set out to solve and eliminate this very problem by letting everyone use the story of the leader!

With the Reverse Funnel System, everyone just thinks they are dealing directly with Ty. In Carbon Copy Pro, everyone thinks they are dealing directly with Jay.

Everyone markets identical websites with RFS and CCP which eliminates the need to brand yourself which branding is pretty much foreign language to newbie marketers, on top of that not having their own success story makes it just that much more difficult. No one wants to team up with someone who has never achieved success, if you know what I mean. (CCP's site features Jay Kubassek, and the RFS site features Ty Coughlin has eliminated that variable that handicaps the newbie marketer). The autoresponder messages itself are sent out which give an appearance that you are dealing with "Jay" or "Ty" who have a major success story.

This ingenious idea is the reason that uncountable amount of new marketers in Carbon Copy Pro have experienced their first sale within the first 5 weeks of CCP being on the market.

So, in this particular area, I'd have to give both systems an A+.

Funded Proposal? What's That? 

Both Carbon Copy Pro and the Reverse Funnel take advantage of what's called a "funded proposal"

If you are not familiar with that term, let me explain.

When a person visits a Carbon Copy Pro site or a Reverse Funnel site, they are given some "teaser" information for free.

To gain access to more info, the visitor must pay a small fee - $49 for CCPro and $50 for the Reverse Funnel.

(CCP takes this one step further and actually gives the visitor a valuable product -- a training CD by industry marketing master Mike Dillard. Along with this unlike RFS, CCP offers a triple money back guarantee. with that said, it is obvious CCP is very confidence in their system and end products).

The beauty of a funded proposal is that it helps raise "funds" for the marketer, even when a sale is not produced. These funds can then be put back into advertising the site, generating more leads for the marketer's business.

This type of system can help keep a marketer in business ( ie: keeps him from running out of money ;-) while his marketing "funnel" is being filled with qualified prospects.

"You NEVER have to CALL or CLOSE your prospects" -- Oh, Really?? 

Automated System means you can work from anywhere and have your business on Auto-Pilot.

Automated System means you can work from anywhere and have your business on Auto-Pilot.

When someone visits either of these websites and "opts-in", they will then begin receiving a series of pre-written messages. In the Carbon Copy System, the messages come from "Jay". In the Reverse Funnel System, the messages come from "Ty".

In fact, with Carbon Copy Pro, there is a team that calls your visitors for you when the prospect completes the "funded proposal" step and fill out an application (see "funded proposal", above).

With the RFS, after someone completes an application they will begin receiving automated phone messages from Ty inviting them to "Coffee Calls" and "Take off to Success" calls.

Personally I feel that the RFS's automated calls are NOT as effective as the real phone calls that come with the Carbon Copy Pro system. Most people will put down the phone immediately the moment they hear a prerecorded message calling them.

Carbon Copy's system gives the prospect the opportunity to get questions answered by top qualified closers who are currently creating a multiple six figure income with CCP. Carbon Copy will attempt to "close" the sale, thus eliminating the need for individual consultants to become "master salesmen" and will continue to follow up on your prospects.

Since the RFS never contacts a prospect directly, the CCP system is the better choice in this category and the ideal system of automated marketing without the need to become a master salesman to achieve success.

However, the CCP system has had so many applicants in such a short period of time that it has had difficulty keeping up with the sudden growth, and many prospects don't receive their call backs in a timely manner.

This means that serious prospects will often contact the referring associate directly. So, the people who end up making the most money in the RFS or CCP are the ones who develop the skills required to talk with their prospects directly.

Regardless, I have personally experienced sales coming through my system without ever speaking to the prospect and my team members have too.

I have to give a Carbon Copy Pro an A+ while a B rating for RFS for this category.

To Each His Own 

Similar approach ... vastly different products

Though the marketing systems are somewhat similar in that they propose to give you a "hands-off" way to market, the products they offer are vastly different.

The company being marketed by Carbon Copy Pro is WMI, a financial education and solutions company whose motto is "Creating Success and Wealth in others one person at a time".

WMI has a vision to not only teach you how to create wealth -- but also how to KEEP it and grow it once you make it!

This Houston, TX based company is in the process of becoming a publicly traded company, and is issuing stock options to members. Nice touch.

WMI has an extremely strong product offering that is needed by many people in our current fiscal environment. The fact that this company was started by a former Wall Street Investment Bank VP is evident since WMI operates like a fine tuned money machine.

On the other hand, the Reverse Funnel System is the marketing arm for (GRN) Global Resorts Network, which targets the travel market. Its product is resort vacation memberships without the annual maintenance fees that are associated with time shares. Now as attractive as this may sound, and vacationing may be very appealing to many, but for the price to get involved at $3000 dollars was just something I personally had a hard time swallowing. There are two reasons for my feelings behind this:

For one, you can get FREE vacation vouchers almost anywhere to top high demand resorts if you take the time to search them out, which also practically includes all the bells and whistles that GRN is offering on a product stand point, and without needing to cough up with a heavy $3000 dollars. So you decide pay $3000 dollars plus pay the fees that are associated with booking the vacation to the resort of your choice "OR" pay NOTHING and get FREE resort vacation vouchers, and then just pay the minimum booking charges to the resort of your choice? I think the answer here is quite obvious unless you are trying to look at this on a business stand point.

The 2nd problem associated with the Reverse Funnel System concept was, it's a limited market-you can only market to people who are looking for vacations- why limit yourself when the market place is much bigger! The concept of having a business that tailors to vacationing may sound very appealing, but the reality of it is, most people who join the Reverse Funnel System are looking to make money so the focus is, getting people in on the concept of vacationing and then sharing the same concept with others, and that they too will make money by doing the same. So I guess the real question is, when does the concept become a reality?

When you start making money perhaps?

Now are there people making money with the Reverse Funnel System? ABSOLUTELY! But the ones really making the money are the people who know how to market and in many cases have a good advertising budget and this is something we will cover later in my lens.

What about the "Back Office" 

You get what you pay for!

While both systems are really pretty slick, as far as the "back office" goes -- the RFS has an "additional feature".

For one thing, setting up an ad campaign in the RFS is a matter of naming a campaign, and the system returns the link that you should use.

For the Carbon Copy pro system, it was obviously written for the more technical user. It is left up to the user to construct their own links by placing this at the end of your URL link "?t=". Now, this is not difficult once you learn it, but it does add a small layer of complexity for the newbie. But here is a quick example how easy it is actually done with Carbon Copy Pro.

Now let's say you are going to place an ad with a company by the name "XYZ", basically what you will do is just ad this code to the end of your URL: ?t=XYZ

Like for example my URL link is:

www.YourSixFigureMentor.com

Here is how I would add the tracking:

www.YourSixFigureMentor.com?t=XYZ

Now every time you generate a lead from that particular ad, that is what will appear in your back office, so now you know where your money is performing best for you or where you are throwing it away when it boils down to online advertising.

Anyways both systems do provide in-depth training on how to use these links.

And, hopefully, no one coming into online marketing is really of the delusion that they don't have to DO anything.

Of COURSE, as an online marketer you have to learn marketing, and managing links in part of online marketing -- especially if you want to be successful. One of the most important aspects about marketing is TRACKING!

Both Carbon Copy Pro and Reverse Funnel System provides detailed tracking info for each of your links, showing info such as the number of hits, number of opt-in, number of paid leads, percentages, etc. This info makes it very easy to see which of your advertising media is the most profitable, so you know where you concentrate your efforts.

And, the Reverse Funnel System's back office makes it easy for you to send broadcast emails to your lead (this feature is missing from CCP). AND, it provides a place for adding notes about your lead. Now on the other side of the coin is, if you have your own autoresponder Aweber account, then you are now in control of your own leads and you may send broadcast messages at anytime with CCP and this is what you want to do anyways. The last thing you want to do is have the company keep your leads in their database without the means to import them out later. You spent good advertising dollars and you put time into generating those leads, so don't let the company have them!

Anyway I have to say that the "Star" for just a tad bit ease of use goes to RFS. BUT, the Reverse Funnel Systems' back-office comes with a price!

The RFS costs twice as much per month as CCPRO. That's right... TWICE as much.

Plus, Carbon Copy Pro is an affiliate program, meaning that once you sign-up 5 members to use the site, the system is free for you.

The good part of all of this is that the previously discussed funded proposal will cover these costs and some for anyone willing to market the system heavily.

What about the "Franchise" Claims 

Is this really just a "Business in a Box"

The RFS claims to have created the first home based business franchise.

(CCP says that is it "Like a Franchise", but "we are NOT a franchise." )

Since I really don't understand the big difference here...for the sake of this lens, I'll just consider "like a franchise" to be a franchise, O.K.?

Well, one sign of a franchise is the exact same training given to ANY new franchise owner.

In my opinion, Carbon Copy Pro comes closest to delivering on the promise of delivering the EXACT same training to all members.

Both systems have a new member system setup call once a week. Carbon Copy Pro's call is done via Webinar -- And, I don't think I have to explain to you the difference between TELLING someone something and actually SHOWING it to them.

Same thing with the advertising call.

With the RFS, Don Glanville verbally steps new members through the vast database of ad vendors and encourages them to place their first several ads.

Again, Carbon Copy Pro does it via webinar, so new members can actually see new ads being created. Plus, the calls go through the strategy of how to create a successful ad.

From the trainings, you can tell that Ty & Don really have a heart to help the new members succeed, and tell them flat-out that they ultimately need to learn to create their own leads. While this is true, it can be a bit overwhelming for the newbie to just be told to "place three ads per day" without any real guidance on how to write the ad.

Because the RFS is weak in the area of advertising training, some teams have taken things into their own hands, and have put together their own training sites

On the other hand, the Carbon Copy Pro system offers an in-depth "generating Leads" section that is available to EVERYONE using the system.

This section has detailed training on:

-- PPC
-- Ezine Advertising
-- Solo Ad placement

There is even some of Jay's EXACT "Sale a Day" ad copy.

CCP even brings in people like "The Urban Cowgirl" to give in-depth trainings on how to market and generate your own leads.

One very strange thing though... while CCP is the hands-down winner in overall marketing training, the RFS has extremely easy to use, cut and paste banner code. These banners are hosted on the RFS server, so they are extremely easy to use and can be quickly inserted into all sorts of sites.

The CCP system does have banner ads available, but they are most DEFINITELY not "cut and paste" style. Since they've covered all the other bases for advertising, I'm not sure why CCP has dropped the ball in this area.

But overall, Carbon Copy Pro gets 5 stars for marketing training. I'd give the generic RFS system about 2-3 stars in this area.

Two Good Systems 

Now, EVERYONE has a Success Story!

The advent of these two systems has eliminated the one thing that has made it so difficult for new marketers to compete online -- having a "success story". Newbie's can now simply borrow the success of a recognized industry leader -- while they are working to create a success story of their own!

Carbon Copy Pro Marketing System
Those who choose to market Carbon Copy Pro just use Jay Kubassek's story

The Reverse Funnel Marketing System
Those who prefer to market the Reverse Funnel just use Ty Coughlin's story.

You can't get much more "automated" than that!

The 5th Factor And The Most Important Part of Your Business Is Who You Team Up With! 

Making sure you have the right mentors is crucial to your marketing success...

Now that it's clear as to which is the better overall choice between Carbon Copy Pro and the Reverse Funnel System, lets us now focus on the most important topic. And that is, "who you team up with and marketing"

In my past 4 and a half years of marketing and 3 years of being a very successful marketer it is amazing what you can learn and the things you will run into in this industry. I think the most ironic thing about this industry is that there are so many mentors out there who have never achieved success who are trying to lead others to success. Its just crazy!

It is absolutely crucial who you work with because working with the wrong person can mean the difference of making 50 thousand dollars per month or ZERO per month and in many cases you are worse off than when you first started. So be careful who you work with and that saying goes for any business. Would you not agree?

Now the question is what is it that I have to offer and what to expect, right? Well first of all as you can see from above by comparing the two very attractive programs, why Carbon Copy Pro was my number one choice. First of all CCP is an incredibly lucrative opportunity IF you know how to drive traffic, and market your copy of the system. If you don't know how to market CCP, then it won't do you much good.

That's why I have prepared IMMENSE resources for our team to get access to IMMEDIATELY, once they become part of our inner circle.

I have created a team site that has taken me over 2 and a half years to perfect. The Team site will give you online video training as to how to effectively market online. It covers everything from:

1. General Pay-Per-Click - 1 and a half cents per
click!
2. Google Adwords
3. Press Releases
4. Articles and Directory Marketing
5. Blogging
6. Email Marketing
7. Online Classifieds
8. Social Networking
9. Forum Marketing
10. Reverse Marketing
11. Outsourcing
12. Bonus Videos
13. Craigslist Traffic
14. Squidoo
15. Safelist
16. Domain guide
17. Autoresponder
18. Email Blasting submission site
19. Video email
20. Youtube Marketing
21. My Space Marketing
22. Resources
23. E-books and Softwares
24. Online Office Tools
25. Training Classes
26. 1 on 1 webinar trainings
27. Unlimited phone support coaching and mentoring
28. Exactly where to go and place your ads.
29. Submission Tools
30. I will help you get you CCP business completely
set up and all your pay buttons ready to start
cranking out sales right away.

SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN TO YOU??
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Thats RIGHT! Money in the BANK!

The beauty about my system and being a part of our team is, you will have full lifetime access to my team site and will be able to apply these proven techniques to any online business. In fact, I currently charge $200 dollars per hour for online coaching and training and a $2,000 for this exclusive private team back office membership, but for those who join our team all of these incentives are 100% FREE.

You will be able to watch all our training video 24/7, pause, play, rewind and fast forward. This system is what has created for me close to 3 million dollars in just a little bit over two and a half years and I'm giving away all my secrets. A lot of the information I am providing is stuff that top millionaire online marketers are not sharing.

This team site will play a very important role in your Carbon Copy Pro success as to duplication and not needing to babysit anyone. That is why it is not surprising how my team has always become the number one team in any business we have taken on. Believe it or not even today I receive a minimum of 3 calls per week from other current members who want to switch over to my team. So that should tell you something.

Just being on our team, we TELL YOU place by place where to advertise, so you can start driving traffic to Carbon Copy Pro Immediately.

On top of all that...we have highly profitable Co-op advertising campaigns taking place right now...that you can plug right into.

We advertise through email marketing, Pay Per Click Marketing, and a variety of other marketing mediums. Rather then have to go out and do it all on your own...when you join our inner circle...we'll let you plug right in and start driving traffic to your Carbon copy Pro site immediately.

With our mentor ship and expertise on coaching you to will be MARKETING like a professional...you will be making money with Carbon Copy Pro Immediately RIGHT FROM THE START.

Using our proven system and FREE advertising ads and methods, you will be generating high quality traffic and sales from the moment you get started. All you really need to learn how to do is be very good at Simon Says...and you can make incredible money with Carbon Copy Pro Immediately.

You can contact me if you'd like more information at: (805) 201-6320.

And if you would like to learn more about me visit:

Johnny Scofield
aka 7- Figure Mentor

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When you're ready to learn real marketing, and real success principles...I'm here to help.

What To Look For In A Carbon Copy Team To Join... 

Think of your business as Wal-Mart 24/7 - tons of traffic! NO traffic NO Sales!

The bottom line of success comes down to two things...

1. Traffic

2. Conversion

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Traffic and conversion. It doesn't matter what your business is, offline or Online...the amount of people you are being exposed to and what you have to offer is only 50% of your success.

The other 50% of your success is having them convert to buyers of your perspective products or services.

With Carbon copy Pro you DON'T have to worry about the conversion part. Jay Kubassek set Carbon Copy Pro up so the conversion is high.

What you DO have to worry about is MARKETING and advertising your business so you can put targeted people in front of what you have to offer and can make a bunch of money. That's the bottom line.

So when looking for the best Carbon Copy Pro team to join, you want to join a team that has POWERHOUSE marketing strategies already in place.

You want this team to have co-ops which you can participate in where they drive massive amounts of traffic to your sites. You want them to be able to give you high converting strategies and tell you where to place your ads.

You want them to be able to help you setup PPC campaigns and drive massive amounts of traffic through that medium. You want them to be able to provide marketing know hows and tools to you in any way possible.

If you have a team to join like that, then you will have ALL the power in the world to make enormous amounts of money with Carbon Copy Pro. And I mean ENORMOUS.

So here's what you can do...check out this page below and see what some of the people have to say by joining the Six Figure Mentor Winners Team:

Six Figure Success Team

I teach people marketing for a LIVING. And have clients all over the world, who hire me to show them how to market on the Internet. Bottom line...if you want to avoid my costly consulting and coaching fee's, and still benefit and gleam my knowledge of how to market on the Internet...you can do it through Carbon Copy Pro.

Just make sure the people you align yourself with KNOW what they are doing because if you don't...you can get stuck on your own in a competitive industry...and it ain't fun!

You don't want to end up feeling like this:
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How To Get *TRUE* Carbon Copy Pro System Mentoring And Coaching 

The Most IMPORTANT Thing You Need Is Knowledge And Guidance To Succeed...

Carbon Copy Pro is truly a revolutionary business model that is ONLY possible because of very recent modern technology.

As exciting as that is, what people NEED to understand is that this is a REAL BUSINESS.

When you seek to create your OWN highly profitable business, that can pay you the types of income most people only dream about...you have to be prepared to act like a TRUE entrepreneur.

You have to be prepared to DEVELOP the TRUE qualities that almost ALL successful entrepreneurs develop and employ on a daily basis to achieve the same success.

THAT is the formula for being successful no matter what business you choose to join. It's knowing that you Mindset...and your Marketing ability...is absolutely essential to the amount of wealth you can create.

So what's the quickest way to develop these qualities, and become a highly successful entrepreneur?

It's to SURROUND YOURSELF with others who can teach you exactly that...and provide the guidance and knowledge you need to move closer to your goals in life.

All things are learned in two ways.

1. Teacher
1. Time

Time will take a lot longer, it will wear you out much more, it will probably cost a lot more money, and there are still things which you may never learn on your own if you're not plugged into the right networks.

A teacher on the other hand can cut your learning curve to pieces, guide you to exactly what's worth your time and what isn't, and can help you achieve more results in a shorter time.

That's the power of true mentorship and coaching. When you have that...you've got everything you really need to BLOW Carbon Copy Pro out of the water.

And frankly, that is what we provide in a way that NO OTHER Carbon Copy pro team really can. And I challenge you to look around and investigate that for yourself.

Below you will find my coaching program where I charge $200 dollars per hour or a $2,000 for home business owners to have access to my team training video site, and get access to the level of marketing knowledge and expertise that teach.

Your Six Figure Training

In fact, I feel sorry for other people who belong to other Carbon Copy Pro teams. I get calls all the time from people wanting to switch over to my team and have had other current members from OTHER TEAMS who have sign up for my coaching program and team training site just in the past 30 days... But for those who join me directly get access to LIVE coaching, training, and webinars that other people are paying thousands of dollars for. On MY TEAM it's completely FREE.

And the reason why I'm doing that is because I'm dedicated to teaching you how to REALLY be a true entrepreneur, and market your Carbon Copy Pro business on the internet%u2026 It's called "LEVERAGE", and I have vested interest in your success so this organization can absolutely explode.

On top of that, you get access to ALL my video training where we teach people virtually EVERY form of online marketing there is using technology.

This is the same knowledge and skills I've used to create EVERY bit of my success. I've created close to 3 MILLION DOLLARS to date little over 2 and a half years.

Frankly, I think you would be hard pressed to find this level of coaching/training from people who WALK THE WALK and can truly show you how to use cutting edge technologies to build the life YOU want for yourself.

On top of that...you're literally getting access to this online marketing university...and un precedent level of mentoring for absolutely NOTHING just by joining our organization within Carbon Copy Pro.

And if you want to call me to chat personally about your business and Carbon Copy Pro you can reach me at:

(805) 201-6320

Hopefully I've conveyed the message here today about how IMPORTANT it is to make sure you're aligned with the true Entrepreneurial mindset...and teaming up with someone who can mentor and educate you towards true MARKETING KNOWLEDGE of how to go out and physically create success.

Otherwise you end up like other people in the industry...and you'll be paying another $2,000 just to get access to what it is I teach people. :)

Let me know how I can help. Give me a call I'll be around.

Warmly,

johnny_scofield

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