Homeowner's Insurance Deductible
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Homeowner's Insurance Deductible
This lens is about how homeowners are knowingly or unknowingly committing insurance fraud by trying to get the lowest price on replacing their roof from an insurance claim in Austin and/or DFW area in Texas.
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Homeowners are knowingly or unknowingly committing insurance fraud by attempting to get the lowest bid for replacing their hail damaged roof which is being paid for by the homeowner's insurance company (Insurer).
Paying for deductibles, even partially, is illegal in Texas.
Paying for placing a sign in an insured's yard is in fact considered a rebate since the insured receive a betterment from their loss. When you submit an invoice to the insurance company to recover the depreciation do you show that you paid the insured? Do you show that you collected the FULL & required dollar figure? If not, & you stated that you collected hundreds or even thousands less than the correct deductible, the insurance company would reduce the recoverable depreciation by the amount you discounted the deductible.
I'm seeing language on claim summaries now that address this issue informing insured's that it's illegal for them to not pay their fully required deductible.
Example:
Insurance claim for a roof is estimated by insurance @ $ 10,000.00.
Insured (homeowner) has a deductible for $ 1,500.00.
This means the insurance company's portion of "buying the roof" is $ 8,500.00.
However, along comes "Roofer X" who only charges the homeowner / insured $ 500.00 & *not* the full amount.
Roofer X then faxes off an invoice to the insurance co. stating that they collected $ 1,500.00 from the homeowner / insured.
Roofer X is telling the insurance co. they should send out the balance of the claim (the rest of the amount due) & the insurance co. now thinks they have satisfied their part.
If, on the other hand, Roofer X were to send in an invoice with the dollar figure of $ 500.00 paid by homeowner / insured & NOT $ 1,500.00, then the insurance co. would then back off their final check by the amount that Roofer X did NOT collect.
Homeowner / insured is happy, however, because they just paid less than they were supposed to ("hey, it's OK; everyone does it, right?).
WRONG.
Fact: The very moment Roofer X sends off a false invoice showing a higher dollar amount collected from homeowner / insured, then Roofer X has committed fraud.
Fact: If Roofer X provides an invoice (or receipt) to the homeowner / insured & they (not the roofer) then forward this off to insurance, both parties have now committed insurance fraud, however the homeowner has also committed wire fraud AND they are also committing collusion (conspiring to perform an illegal act). ...How nice; Roofer X has just dragged the homeowner down right along with them.
It's really quite simple:
Find a roofing contractor that has good references & one that you think will provide you with the highest level of service / do the best quality job. Pay your full & legally required deductible.
If you have a problem with your deductible, then maybe you need to rethink your premiums. A higher premium will mean a lower deductible, but YOU, the consumer, are the one who makes that choice.
Now, one scam ("on the behalf of the homeowner / insured") is that Roofer X could pay to place a sign in someones yard that they are not re-roofing, that's legal but it's also not very likely.
Since roofing is by its very nature dangerous and potentially deadly these kickbacks can be considered a first degree felony offense. At the minimum it's a state jail felony. If you get caught doing it multiple times they will aggregate the charges.
All it takes is an insurance companies SIU Department to audit an insured. Or the Texas Department of Insurance to investigate. http://www.tdi.state.tx.us/fraud/index.html
See Chapter 35 Insurance Fraud Section 35.02(7)(B)
BUSINESS & COMMERCE CODE
CHAPTER 27. FRAUD
§ 27.02. CERTAIN INSURANCE CLAIMS FOR EXCESSIVE CHARGES.
(a) A person who sells goods or services commits an offense if:
(1) the person advertises or promises to provide the good or service and to pay:
(A) all or part of any applicable insurance deductible; or (B) a rebate in an amount equal to all or part of
any applicable insurance deductible;
(2) the good or service is paid for by the consumer from proceeds of a property or casualty insurance policy; and
(3) the person knowingly charges an amount for the good or service that exceeds the usual and customary charge by the person for the good or service by an amount equal to or greater than all or part of the applicable insurance deductible paid by the person to an insurer on behalf of an insured or remitted to an insured by the person as a rebate.
(b) A person who is insured under a property or casualty insurance policy commits an offense if the person:
(1) submits a claim under the policy based on charges that are in violation of Subsection (a) of this section; or
(2) knowingly allows a claim in violation of Subsection (a) of this section to be submitted, unless the person promptly notifies the insurer of the excessive charges.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
Added by Acts 1989, 71st Leg., ch. 898, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1989.
PENAL CODE CHAPTER 35. INSURANCE FRAUD
§ 35.02. INSURANCE FRAUD. (a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to defraud or deceive an insurer, the person, in support of a claim for payment under an insurance policy:
(1) prepares or causes to be prepared a statement that:
(A) the person knows contains false or misleading material information; and
(B) is presented to an insurer; or
(2) presents or causes to be presented to an insurer a statement that the person knows contains false or misleading material information.
(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person, with intent to defraud or deceive an insurer and in support of an application for an insurance policy:
(1) prepares or causes to be prepared a statement that:
(A) the person knows contains false or misleading material information; and
(B) is presented to an insurer; or
(2) presents or causes to be presented to an insurer a statement that the person knows contains false or misleading material information.
(b) A person commits an offense if, with intent to defraud or deceive an insurer, the person solicits, offers, pays, or receives a benefit in connection with the furnishing of goods or services for which a claim for payment is submitted under an insurance policy.
(c) An offense under Subsection (a) or (b) is:
(1) a Class C misdemeanor if the value of the claim is less than $50;
(2) a Class B misdemeanor if the value of the claim is $50 or more but less than $500;
(3) a Class A misdemeanor if the value of the claim is $500 or more but less than $1,500;
(4) a state jail felony if the value of the claim is $1,500 or more but less than $20,000;
(5) a felony of the third degree if the value of the claim is $20,000 or more but less than $100,000;
(6) a felony of the second degree if the value of the claim is $100,000 or more but less than $200,000; or
(7) a felony of the first degree if:
(A) the value of the claim is $200,000 or more; or
(B) an act committed in connection with the commission of the offense places a person at risk of death or serious bodily injury.
(d) An offense under Subsection (a-1) is a state jail felony.
(e) The court shall order a defendant convicted of an offense under this section to pay restitution, including court costs and attorney's fees, to an affected insurer.
(f) If conduct that constitutes an offense under this section also constitutes an offense under any other law, the actor may be prosecuted under this section, the other law, or both.
(g) For purposes of this section, if the actor proves by a preponderance of the evidence that a portion of the claim for payment under an insurance policy resulted from a valid loss,
injury, expense, or service covered by the policy, the value of the claim is equal to the difference between the total claim amount and the amount of the valid portion of the claim.
(h) If it is shown on the trial of an offense under this section that the actor submitted a bill for goods or services in support of a claim for payment under an insurance policy to the insurer issuing the policy, a rebuttable presumption exists that the actor caused the claim for payment to be prepared or presented.
Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 621, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
Amended by Acts 2003, 78th Leg., ch. 605, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 2003.
Amended by:
Acts 2005, 79th Leg., Ch. 1162, § 4, eff. September 1, 2005.
§ 35.03. AGGREGATION AND MULTIPLE OFFENSES. (a) When separate claims in violation of this chapter are communicated to an insurer or group of insurers pursuant to one scheme or continuing course of conduct, the conduct may be considered as one offense and the value of the claims aggregated in determining the classification of the offense. If claims are aggregated under this subsection, Subsection (b) shall not apply.
(b) When three or more separate claims in violation of this chapter are communicated to an insurer or group of insurers pursuant to one scheme or continuing course of conduct, the conduct may be considered as one offense, and the classification of the offense shall be one category higher than the most serious single offense proven from the separate claims, except that if the most serious offense is a felony of the first degree, the offense is a felony of the first degree. This subsection shall not be applied if claims are aggregated under Subsection (a).
Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 621, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995
Paying for deductibles, even partially, is illegal in Texas.
Paying for placing a sign in an insured's yard is in fact considered a rebate since the insured receive a betterment from their loss. When you submit an invoice to the insurance company to recover the depreciation do you show that you paid the insured? Do you show that you collected the FULL & required dollar figure? If not, & you stated that you collected hundreds or even thousands less than the correct deductible, the insurance company would reduce the recoverable depreciation by the amount you discounted the deductible.
I'm seeing language on claim summaries now that address this issue informing insured's that it's illegal for them to not pay their fully required deductible.
Example:
Insurance claim for a roof is estimated by insurance @ $ 10,000.00.
Insured (homeowner) has a deductible for $ 1,500.00.
This means the insurance company's portion of "buying the roof" is $ 8,500.00.
However, along comes "Roofer X" who only charges the homeowner / insured $ 500.00 & *not* the full amount.
Roofer X then faxes off an invoice to the insurance co. stating that they collected $ 1,500.00 from the homeowner / insured.
Roofer X is telling the insurance co. they should send out the balance of the claim (the rest of the amount due) & the insurance co. now thinks they have satisfied their part.
If, on the other hand, Roofer X were to send in an invoice with the dollar figure of $ 500.00 paid by homeowner / insured & NOT $ 1,500.00, then the insurance co. would then back off their final check by the amount that Roofer X did NOT collect.
Homeowner / insured is happy, however, because they just paid less than they were supposed to ("hey, it's OK; everyone does it, right?).
WRONG.
Fact: The very moment Roofer X sends off a false invoice showing a higher dollar amount collected from homeowner / insured, then Roofer X has committed fraud.
Fact: If Roofer X provides an invoice (or receipt) to the homeowner / insured & they (not the roofer) then forward this off to insurance, both parties have now committed insurance fraud, however the homeowner has also committed wire fraud AND they are also committing collusion (conspiring to perform an illegal act). ...How nice; Roofer X has just dragged the homeowner down right along with them.
It's really quite simple:
Find a roofing contractor that has good references & one that you think will provide you with the highest level of service / do the best quality job. Pay your full & legally required deductible.
If you have a problem with your deductible, then maybe you need to rethink your premiums. A higher premium will mean a lower deductible, but YOU, the consumer, are the one who makes that choice.
Now, one scam ("on the behalf of the homeowner / insured") is that Roofer X could pay to place a sign in someones yard that they are not re-roofing, that's legal but it's also not very likely.
Since roofing is by its very nature dangerous and potentially deadly these kickbacks can be considered a first degree felony offense. At the minimum it's a state jail felony. If you get caught doing it multiple times they will aggregate the charges.
All it takes is an insurance companies SIU Department to audit an insured. Or the Texas Department of Insurance to investigate. http://www.tdi.state.tx.us/fraud/index.html
See Chapter 35 Insurance Fraud Section 35.02(7)(B)
BUSINESS & COMMERCE CODE
CHAPTER 27. FRAUD
§ 27.02. CERTAIN INSURANCE CLAIMS FOR EXCESSIVE CHARGES.
(a) A person who sells goods or services commits an offense if:
(1) the person advertises or promises to provide the good or service and to pay:
(A) all or part of any applicable insurance deductible; or (B) a rebate in an amount equal to all or part of
any applicable insurance deductible;
(2) the good or service is paid for by the consumer from proceeds of a property or casualty insurance policy; and
(3) the person knowingly charges an amount for the good or service that exceeds the usual and customary charge by the person for the good or service by an amount equal to or greater than all or part of the applicable insurance deductible paid by the person to an insurer on behalf of an insured or remitted to an insured by the person as a rebate.
(b) A person who is insured under a property or casualty insurance policy commits an offense if the person:
(1) submits a claim under the policy based on charges that are in violation of Subsection (a) of this section; or
(2) knowingly allows a claim in violation of Subsection (a) of this section to be submitted, unless the person promptly notifies the insurer of the excessive charges.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor.
Added by Acts 1989, 71st Leg., ch. 898, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1989.
PENAL CODE CHAPTER 35. INSURANCE FRAUD
§ 35.02. INSURANCE FRAUD. (a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to defraud or deceive an insurer, the person, in support of a claim for payment under an insurance policy:
(1) prepares or causes to be prepared a statement that:
(A) the person knows contains false or misleading material information; and
(B) is presented to an insurer; or
(2) presents or causes to be presented to an insurer a statement that the person knows contains false or misleading material information.
(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person, with intent to defraud or deceive an insurer and in support of an application for an insurance policy:
(1) prepares or causes to be prepared a statement that:
(A) the person knows contains false or misleading material information; and
(B) is presented to an insurer; or
(2) presents or causes to be presented to an insurer a statement that the person knows contains false or misleading material information.
(b) A person commits an offense if, with intent to defraud or deceive an insurer, the person solicits, offers, pays, or receives a benefit in connection with the furnishing of goods or services for which a claim for payment is submitted under an insurance policy.
(c) An offense under Subsection (a) or (b) is:
(1) a Class C misdemeanor if the value of the claim is less than $50;
(2) a Class B misdemeanor if the value of the claim is $50 or more but less than $500;
(3) a Class A misdemeanor if the value of the claim is $500 or more but less than $1,500;
(4) a state jail felony if the value of the claim is $1,500 or more but less than $20,000;
(5) a felony of the third degree if the value of the claim is $20,000 or more but less than $100,000;
(6) a felony of the second degree if the value of the claim is $100,000 or more but less than $200,000; or
(7) a felony of the first degree if:
(A) the value of the claim is $200,000 or more; or
(B) an act committed in connection with the commission of the offense places a person at risk of death or serious bodily injury.
(d) An offense under Subsection (a-1) is a state jail felony.
(e) The court shall order a defendant convicted of an offense under this section to pay restitution, including court costs and attorney's fees, to an affected insurer.
(f) If conduct that constitutes an offense under this section also constitutes an offense under any other law, the actor may be prosecuted under this section, the other law, or both.
(g) For purposes of this section, if the actor proves by a preponderance of the evidence that a portion of the claim for payment under an insurance policy resulted from a valid loss,
injury, expense, or service covered by the policy, the value of the claim is equal to the difference between the total claim amount and the amount of the valid portion of the claim.
(h) If it is shown on the trial of an offense under this section that the actor submitted a bill for goods or services in support of a claim for payment under an insurance policy to the insurer issuing the policy, a rebuttable presumption exists that the actor caused the claim for payment to be prepared or presented.
Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 621, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.
Amended by Acts 2003, 78th Leg., ch. 605, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 2003.
Amended by:
Acts 2005, 79th Leg., Ch. 1162, § 4, eff. September 1, 2005.
§ 35.03. AGGREGATION AND MULTIPLE OFFENSES. (a) When separate claims in violation of this chapter are communicated to an insurer or group of insurers pursuant to one scheme or continuing course of conduct, the conduct may be considered as one offense and the value of the claims aggregated in determining the classification of the offense. If claims are aggregated under this subsection, Subsection (b) shall not apply.
(b) When three or more separate claims in violation of this chapter are communicated to an insurer or group of insurers pursuant to one scheme or continuing course of conduct, the conduct may be considered as one offense, and the classification of the offense shall be one category higher than the most serious single offense proven from the separate claims, except that if the most serious offense is a felony of the first degree, the offense is a felony of the first degree. This subsection shall not be applied if claims are aggregated under Subsection (a).
Added by Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 621, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995
Homeowner Insurance Claim Process
The Residential Insurance Claim Process
Provide your Roofing Salesman with the Insurance Agent's name and telephone number and the insurance policy number. We will attempt to file the claim in your behalf. This works most of the time but some insurance companies prefer the Homeowner file the claim directly. Ask the Agent to have the Adjuster Make an Appointment to inspect the roof. The Adjuster usually looks at your roof within 5 - 7 days after filing the claim.
The Insurance Adjuster will call you to make an appointment. Be sure to get the Adjuster's name and telephone number. Go ahead and set the appointment and contact your roofing Salesman to give him the time and date and Adjuster's name and telephone number.
If the roof is approved, the Homeowner will receive a check for an estimated fifty percent of the claim.
If you have a mortgage on your home, the first check will be made out to the Homeowner and the Mortgage Company. Contact your Mortgage Company and ask for the Insurance Department or the Loss Draft Department for details on their process to get the first check endorsed. DO NOT sign the check until it comes back from the Mortgage Company in case the check gets lost in the mail.
Contract with a reputable Roofing Company that is familiar with the insurance process. Any credible Roofing Company will agree to do the installation for what the insurance company agrees to pay for the roof replacement plus your deductible. If they are willing to do the job for less, especially when there is more work than most can handle, then it is probably a sign that they are forced to sell on price alone; this situation is usually an indication of quality or cash-flow problems.
If anyone suggests that you "make money" on the roof installation, this is Insurance Fraud and you and the other participant could become involved in a lot of trouble. The Insurance Companies, due to the heavy losses sustained in the last two years, are constantly monitoring the claims to protect themselves and their policyholders.
Call your Salesman when the first check comes in from the Mortgage Company. The first check is due as down payment when material arrives at the jobsite. Please check the materials to verify the shingle color and drip edge color are correct.
Upon completion, your Roofing Salesman will do a final inspection on the job and go over the checklist with you. Please note any items that need attention (if any) and sign the final inspection checklist. If your Mortgage Company has requested a final inspection, call them now.
The final bill will be faxed or mailed directly to the insurance company and a copy will be sent to the Homeowner.
Upon receipt of the final insurance check, the invoice is due. Please contact your Roofing Salesman to pick up the final check.
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Homeowners insurance provides financial protection against disasters. A standard policy insures the home itself and the things you keep in it. Homeowners insurance is a package policy. This means that it covers both damage to your property and your liability or legal responsibility for any injuries and property damage you or members of your family cause to other people.
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