How to succeed in Vector Marketing/Selling CutCo
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Okay.......so is this Vector Marketing legit or what?
This article is about the both famous (and infamous to some) company known widely by the name, Vector Marketing. Known for the popular high-end products, CutCo Cutlery and the more recent addition CutCo Cookware, Vector Marketing has been making a name for itself all over North America in the last few decades. I decided to write this lens after a GOOGLE search for "how to make money with vector marketing". I am already a part of this company and have been since last summer. I was just interested if there was any new or unique sales techniques or sales avenues that I hadn't thought of yet. My curiosity soon turned to dismay as I scrolled through page after page of vector-smashing, Cutco-bashing hate articles. Even when someone tried to comment in a positive manner in response to these articles, there was always a person to fire right back, accusing them of working for vector or saying they were probably getting paid to say good things about vector all over the web. I decided that my opinion, even if it stood alone, should be out there as well to even the battlefield that is the subject of vector marketing. I am not here to bash vector marketing or cutco, nor am I here to praise it, for like all companies (especially sales-based), vector has its high-points and its flaws. I simply want to tell it straight and let you decide what you want to do with my information and tactics. I hope you enjoy this article and find it useful and I wish you good luck in all of your future vector marketing endeavors, should you have them. =)
SO WHAT'S IN THIS LENS ANYWAY?
Your organized directory to the vector experience...
GETTING THE JOB

The reason you are even reading this page in the first place...You, like many others, have probably received an email, phone call, or text message talking about this new job opportunity. You may have also caught it on a flier on your college campus or any other advertisement that vector marketing has out there, but now you want to know, is it legit or not? My answer is...Yes (with circumstances). Vector marketing is the company put in charge of finding sales representatives to market and sell CutCo Cutlery and CutCo Cookware. They, meaning the managers who run the offices placed all over North America, are mostly salesmen themselves who have worked their way up in the ranks in this business until they were offered the chance to start an office. If you haven't went to an "interview" yet then this is how it will go.
You will show up and the secretary will have you fill out a form with all of your information on it and a few open-ended questions to let the managers evaluate your personality. For me at least, the interview was not really anything to get worked up about. They talked to all of the applicants there for that days interview in one big room and sort of explained some things about the company and their goals. They don't really delve into the details about the position you will take in the company or how you will make money or what you will even be doing. After this is complete, they will pull each person in another room, one-by-one to let them know if they have been accepted or rejected. I'm not exactly sure if they accept everyone who has complete information or not, but it seemed that most (if not all) of my group was accepted into the program. After you have been accepted, they will have you sign saying that you accept the position and then they inform you of your upcoming training period (dates, times, and material you should bring).
THE TRAINING

Okay, so you got the job and you have your training session scheduled. It will last 3 days typically, most of the day so make sure not to make plans just in case. In this training session you will learn all about what product you will be marketing (CutCo cutlery). They will teach you all about sales and how to succeed. In my 3-day-session, they started out with what we, as salespeople, should expect of vector, our company. Then they went on to outline what they will expect of us and the reasons for the training sessions in the first place. After this, they stated the rules of my office which were understandable enough. (Be on time and properly dressed were the main points). Then they went on to sort of sell the position to us. Outlining the 3 types of people in this world, the Ultimate Skeptic, the Fence-Sitter, and the All-in. Later in the sessions they began introducing the product to us by showing a sample demonstration. We all received a booklet that was practically a script that they wanted us to memorize and follow in our own demonstrations. We split off into groups for a bit and practiced the pages in the booklet one at a time to try and familiarize ourselves with the way the demo would go. They said that we could never have enough enthusiasm and to always get excited about every single item that we offer so that the customer would too. They explained how they understood that some customers would be appalled at paying this much for knives but that if you understood the price/value association, it was the smartest choice to buy them. This basically just means that if you can convince your potential buyer that the value of this set is greater than the price, it's worth buying. It was all normal sales stuff that I expected in a training session for a position like this one.
After we had gone through the whole demonstration booklet and the sales part afterwards, they explained the incentive program that they run. It could just be office based, but our "Fast-Start" program was something designed to try and push new sales reps to try really hard right from the start. It was based on how much the new rep sold in the first 10 days after the training was over. The more products that you sold in your first 10 days, the more prizes you could receive. The prizes were fair and ranged from ice cream scoop for selling $500 to a trip to Cancun, Mexico for two people for selling $25,000 in the 10 days. The last day went a bit different, but no big surprises. They had us make a list of all the people that we could potentially get appointments with. (Friends and Family pretty much). With this sales position, you basically start with people you know and branch out. At the end of every appointment while you are cleaning up, you just simply ask nicely if they could write down a few names and numbers of some people that they thought wouldn't mind viewing your demo. This is where your future customers come from and is crucial. If you fail at this point, you will exhaust your initial appointments and will be out of a job.
At the very end of the training, they finally hit us with the big one. I was not surprised at all, mainly because I had read up on this job prior to the interviews and training, but they informed us of the cost of our demo equipment. This basically included the most popular set (the home-maker) minus 2 pieces. Even without the 2 pieces, it is about $600-$700 worth of product and the cost for the "demo kit" was only $147 so it seemed fair enough to me, but it was the deal-breaker for a lot of the potential new reps in the group. I must agree that they probably should have informed us of the cost before dragging us through 2 interviews and 3 days of training, but on the other hand, people should expect to have to put some sort of deposit for demonstration gear in a sales position. 
I mean I wouldn't trust someone that I just hired with $700 worth of my product without some sort of collateral. After the people who hadn't jumped ship yet purchased their demo kits, they explained a few more things to us (mainly prices and what we could give away for free with certain purchase amounts). They then prompted that if we wanted to (they wanted us to...lol) we could call a few people off of the list that qualified as an appointment and see if they would be interested in scheduling to meet with you and view your demo.
All-in-All I wasn't disappointed with the training. It was a little mis-leading at points but I had done my research so I knew what to expect and was prepared.
WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE THE SAME?
This is how my interview/training session went, but maybe It's not the same everywhere, let me know what happened in your situation! But please, no hate comments or vector-bashing remarks. If it didn't go well at your local vector marketing office, let us know in a professional and descriptive manner (this means no profanity, try and use proper English, and state your reasoning, don't just say SCAM! like some people like to do, that's immature and inaccurate)
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Joe V
May 22, 2012 @ 12:56 pm | delete
- I got a call yesterday and they said it would be a job in marketing. I'm okay with selling my soul to marketing, but I'm not okay with selling my soul to the promises of $14.75 an hour in product sales. From what I've read everywhere, including this board, you get payed based on how much you sell. That means that this $14.75/hr they promised me was incredibly misleading. And this isn't addressed anywhere but this article makes it seem like you don't get very much time to decide "yes/no" after the interview. If I don't get a week to respond to a job offer then that means that they don't want to give me time to realize what a mistake I'd be making.
I'm prepared to mark the company as shady and misleading and skip out on the interview I had with them. The very nice representative who called me gave me pretty much zero information on the job and she said that they don't do telemarketing or door-to-door sales. Well... they're right: they don't do door-to-door sales; that's what they hire high school and college students to do.
Don't help these kinds of business practices. While it's not a blatant scam (i.e. they're not taking money from new hires without the possibility of reimbursing them) they are taking advantage of young people and their friends and family. There's a reason that the older, more experienced potential hires leave before training is over: they've seen other jobs and they know that this is a job you definitely want to pass up.
I'm not saying you shouldn't work for them if (and pretty much only if) you're a sales god/goddess, but I challenge you to leave your family out of it. They will likely buy the knives as much for their quality as for helping you out on your new job (which is exactly what Vector wants).
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sheymyster
May 25, 2012 @ 9:17 pm | delete
- Thank you for the comment, the $14.75 is most likely the base pay for the office that contacted you. This base pay is for an appointment so even if you don't sell a single thing, they pay you $14.75 for doing the appointment with the person, the only problem is that this "base pay" is not practical as a per hour revenue. I found that if I didn't put my appointments two hours apart from each other I was rushing to finish and speeding to the next appointment, both of which I did not want to do. Having an appointment every hour is not going to happen if your doing it correctly and definitely not when you factor in driving time between appointments.
As for the "family focus", I'm with you there as well, yes this company does intend to hire as many "young" people as they can so that maybe those salesmen make a pity sale or two to their family and then realize it's not for them and quit. This is the best profit for vector, newbie employees selling at only 10% profit to them (90% to vector) and then quitting.
Again, thank you for the response and I'm sorry you felt misled but I'm glad you found my article, I'm not here to "expose" or "slander" vector, just to bring a bit of light to their practices so people can get the full scoop and see if vector is still somewhere they would like to work.
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K
Apr 3, 2012 @ 12:46 pm | delete
- This was my experience. The trouble with selling things like Vector is finding people who want to buy. I mean, really? It's essentially door-to-door knife selling in an age of "cheaper is better". The knives are honestly some of the best I've ever used. I love them. I still know my pitch. My father had me come hear a pitch by a new seller of CutCo and I was able to out-pitch her a decade after quitting.
The set up is a little MLM at times and there is quite an emphasis on sales (obviously). If a person is a so-called natural sales person, they won't do too badly as a part-time job. I don't really like selling, so it didn't last long for me - absolutely nothing to do with the product though. If people knew how few knives one actually needs in a kitchen and took care to buy the best they could afford, so it would last, they would snap up CutCo. There are absolutely comperable knives in the same or less price range, but the DD edge is such a good edge! And they resharpen them! And they can go 5 or 10 years between sharpening! (I know! I sound like I'm being paid to write this comment, but I'm REALLY not.)
In short, CutCo is not a scam but it's not for most. Use your head. Frankly, getting through the interview and purchasing the "Sales Set" is the best part. If you can call it a day at that point, you're ahead money (if you had nothing better to do for two days of training...which when you look at the savings on the knives, you probably don't. Also, stay on long enough to get a discount on the butcher knife. That thing is AWESOME.)
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delicia martinetti
Dec 29, 2011 @ 1:38 am | delete
- my son has been working for vector marketing for about 5-6 yrs. he was a sales rep and then a manager. his father and i thought it might turn out to be a good thing as far as experience, but it has been anything but positive. he has never made any money and is always broke. i believe he thinks he just didn't try hard enough. i believe that no matter how hard a person tries, there are only a certain amount of people that can make any money from a pyramid scheme and those people are at or near the top. i hate them for what they have done to my son and his self esteem. he still thinks if he only tried harder he would have been successful. he gave that company his 20s and has to start completely over at 30. don't get mixed up with these people. they are like a cult. our son became someone we did not know. he talked like someone was reading a script into his ear and he was just repeating what was being said. don't get mixed up with this company, and parents don't encourage your children to get mixed up with them. you will regret it.
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sheymyster
Mar 19, 2012 @ 6:32 pm | delete
- I do not check this thread often so I apologize for the late response, I am a Junior in College now and have hardly time to do anything it seems lately. I am also very sorry that your son had such a negative experience. All of the work and experience that I have with this company is bases strictly on the sales rep section and not on any "higher" positions. Myself and the other well producing salesman were encouraged to apply for the managerial positions but I did not because after looking into the pay, it seemed more like a demotion. Why quit what made you so much money anyways right? I mean these positions had a set salary and work hours but they still wanted you to sell as well at a reduced commission, how crazy. I did not get chastised for not applying to be higher than a salesman though, so it wasn't a big deal that I preferred to stay a sales rep, work my own hours, and build up my commission %. By no means am I recommending this company or this job as a primary means of income for an adult because it isn't. It provides a nice income for any undergraduate who needs a flexible schedule and has an entrepreneurial spirit, but certainly not a substitute for any real degree-requiring occupation. Again, I'm sorry your son got so caught up in their scheme to turn well payed well performing sales reps into managers who end up getting "cheated" and consumed by the job, it's a terrible thing and as I have outlined in this article they are shady at times but never scam artists or liars. Please send my regards to your son if you wish for what happened to him and encourage him that he has plenty of time left to establish a more permanent occupation. In the words of Thomas Edison, you can never fail at anything, you simply find ways to not do the task at hand.
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Job Hunter
Oct 20, 2011 @ 8:36 pm | delete
- This is my second week and so far the division I am in looks legit. They did not hire all the people in my interview group, and if they did, they separated us during the training sessions because I have not seen a single one of them ever since.
During training, a lot of people left. Only four of us remain, and the other night we met the rest of the reps and staff members.
Another thing that was different is that we we lent our kit. We have to return them when we don't use them, and if we want to buy the kit it's only $80 dollars or so. My friend, however, had a horrible experience when he was in high school. He had to buy his kit for $150 but at least he likes it.
A final difference is that they didn't seem to only choose high schoolers and college students. They also hire older people, but they tend to leave after a few days of training.
I would say this isn't a scam... They are not making you (or at least they didn't with me) pay for anything. If they do, it's like the author said -- like a sort of collateral. If you have been hired it's up to you to decide if it's worth it or not. You're going to be driving a lot, so that means a lot of gas money. Make sure you have contacts because if you don't you won't have a lot of people to make appointments with. This is where I am at... I just moved to the area so I don't know people I can make appointments with. A lot of people just give me a pity look once I say "I work for Cutco" and don't bother to give me tips on anything... so far I could only make 1 demo in two weeks. For this reason, I'm thinking about quitting. It's not VECTOR, it's just that I have no contacts... which is depressing but that's life. I'm currently looking for a "traditional" job where I don't have to rely on contacts.
So if you do decide to continue working for Vector, my only advice would be ask everyone you know... make sure you have plenty of contacts before continuing with them, because you will go a lot of NO's. If you are a person that cannot handle that, then I do not recommend this job for you.
That said... good luck in your job-hunting!
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Job Hunter
Oct 20, 2011 @ 8:48 pm | delete
- One thing I would like to add is that if you stay for the training, I believe it's a great way to learn about sales, as well as "selling yourself" (never liked the term) when it comes to job-hunting. I honestly believe this has made me more sure of myself when I talk... If you think you are a shy person, I truly believe this will build more confidence in yourself. This is just my opinion.
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Adrian
Jul 4, 2011 @ 6:15 pm | delete
- I've just started working as well. My demo kit was free. "Lent," if you will and none of the others who were in training had to pay for theirs either. Also during the initial interview my group lost over 10 people so to some extent it was selective. We also lost people during training as well.
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xurik
Jun 24, 2011 @ 3:39 am | delete
- I've been working for about two weeks, and I haven't payed a thing for my demo kit.
I just have a 4 knives and the shears, and a potato peeler. It's lent. On a completely trust based relationship. Every week I have to take it back so my manager can see it's in good condition. If I'm not working a specific week, she keeps it. I've called potential clients to hear from their own words how they're worried about me getting scammed, acting like someone they knew got "scammed".
Ok, I can understand mislead, but scammed? How does that work?
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sheymyster
Aug 2, 2011 @ 12:22 pm | delete
- I will admit, I received similar warnings from my friends and family. Vector has certainly not earned itself a good reputation, one for targeting ONLY high school and college students as its primary sales reps, which is sketchy, and for it's possibly shady sales techniques. That is exactly why I wrote this article, I want it to be known that this company might not be all rainbows and sunshine, but they are definitively not scam artists and there is opportunity here if you play it right.
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MoneyHungry
Jun 21, 2011 @ 11:37 am | delete
- I have an interview today at 6pm...I'm going to the one in College Park, MD, Im Reallt nervous because im really not that much of an outspoken guy, Im not shy but i really dont like making myself look like a fool to sell a product, I dont kno wat to do because i really do need a job :(
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To MoneyHungry
Oct 20, 2011 @ 8:41 pm | delete
- My manager said when he started the job he was actually super shy, which is a total contrast to the guy he is now. If you are shy, don't worry about it. Read the manual and the product will sell itself.
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iylesha
Mar 20, 2011 @ 3:10 pm | delete
- hey i just got hired by vector marketing in orange county. i pretty much went through the same thing but i got my demo kit for free, not everyone got hired, and i know its a great product. you just have to get out there and get positive people interested. the product sells itself and the quality of the product is amazing. its my first week and i keep getting a lot of negative comments but im determined that i will soon be in the position to be the person who hires people. the job is a wonderful oppurtunity and has great teams so its really just about being positive and letting the product speak for itself
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CHUNGMJ
Jun 10, 2011 @ 8:38 pm | delete
- helllooo i just got hired for vector marketing at the laugana hills one.. i go to school in UCI and I was wondering if you can give me some pointers and help me out a little bit???? it will be greatly appreciated :D
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chungmj
Jun 10, 2011 @ 8:41 pm | delete
- can you email me please @chungmj@uci.edu
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THE PRODUCT (CUTCO)

Besides what you may think about the chosen marketing company (vector), the actual product is the best of the best. It's top of the line cutlery and of all the things to do with CutCo, they know how to make their product. The 2nd booklet you receive besides your demo script is one that contains most of the products that can be purchased from CutCo. I will outline all of the features below so that you can better familiarize yourself with this product whether you plan to sell it or purchase it.
-High-Carbon, Stain-Resistant Steel Blade (made from surgical steel)
-Double D edge (CutCo exclusive, appears serrated but is actually 3 angled razor blades with dull tips to protect the edges
(like this /\_/\_/\ )
-Ergonomic handle (made to fit perfectly in a human hand)
-Heat resistant handle material (Called Thermo-Resin, same material that's inside a dishwasher)
-Full Tang (just means that the blade extends all the way to the tip of the handle)
-Triple Rivet (3 rivets holding the handle halves to the blade and to each other, rivets made of anti-rust material)
****************************************FOREVER GUARANTEE****************************************
Along with the above features, all CutCo products also come with the forever guarantee. This simply means that if something breaks, you can get it replaced for free forever. Also, although the flat blades are easily sharpened with a knife sharpener, the Double D edges cannot be sharpened with conventional methods. They do stay sharp for many years because of their design, but when they eventually start to dull, they can be sent to the company for re-sharpening for free as well. If sent to the company, the only cost to the customer is return shipping and handling which can be between $6 and $9 depending on how many items are being sent. If you want to avoid the whole mail thing, you can actually just call the office that you purchased your set from (or just contact the sales rep that sold to you) and they can send someone trained to sharpen the special Double D edges for free. The best part about the guarantee is the money-back section. Some people can feel a bit of buyer's remorse after making a large purchase, but this won't happen with this product. No matter how small or large the order is, a customer can return it all for the full price they paid within a 15-day grace period, that way a customer only keeps something they really want. They even have a section on misuse and abuse. This just states that if it is apparent that you broke a piece of CutCo through non-conventional methods (Its chewed up by an animal, It's melted to a stove eye, etc.) then they will give you a 50% discount on replacing it, that way you won't have to pay full price to get back your stuff.
Okay, now you are familiarized with the product specifications, let's talk about the items themselves. CutCo offers a blade for every single job you could ever dream of having. Your basics are your butcher, bread, paring, carving, trimming, and table knives. They also offer specialty knives including a santoku, a cleaver, a bird's beak paring knife, among many others to satisfy even the pickiest. Other items are things like the spatula spreader (small spatula with blade on one edge), a turning fork (for things like sautéing and stir-fry), and the carving fork (holding things that are being carved). They even have a few other odd-ball sections including a few outdoors items (fisherman's solution is the coolest thing ever), gardening items (such as a trowel and clippers), and some gadgets (like a pizza cutter and garlic press).
A newer addition to the CutCo collection is the Cookware. I am sorry to say that I am not informed enough about this product to delve into detail but I will be researching it more thoroughly soon and will update this lens as soon as I can.
How do you like CutCo products?
I absolutly love the CutCo products and always find myself using my demonstration pieces for actual use in my house. I've even caught my mother a few times digging into my demo briefcase as she loves them as well. But I'm interested in what others think of the product as well! I have left 5 different choices below from absolutely amazing to downright waste of money. Let everyone know how you feel about your CutCo purchase (and please be honost!)
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"THEIR" SALES PITCH

Now that you have gotten the position, had your training, purchased your demo kit, and familiarized yourself with your ticket to some extra dough, you have to convince someone to buy it from you, right? This is where it gets tricky and you begin to decide what kind of salesperson you are going to be. First I am going to outline the sales pitch and method that they teach in training and that they want you to rehearse and regurgitate to your customers.
You start with a small intro on the company itself, stating how long its been around, where it is based, and its recent sales records. After this, you attempt to dazzle your customer with the quality of your product. You use the "super shears" (heavy-duty scissors) to cut the edge of a penny off all the way around. This makes a corkscrew effect and really does look pretty neat (this is my favorite part actually...lol). There is a trick to do it correctly every time. For starters, you need to use older pennies because the material is a bit softer and can help people without a lot of finger strength. Also, the first cut should be directly towards the center of the penny to start it and then you just cut the very edge off all the way around. Check out the video below this section to see exactly what I'm talking about. Normally I cut mine a bit more than the guy in the video did so make my corkscrew a bit longer, but whatever works for you. ***DO NOT EVER ACTUALLY CUT THE PIECE OF PENNY OFF!!*** This will shoot away with great force (possibly at your customer) and is not good at all to start your demo so be careful. After the penny, you move on to describe all of the common knives that your customer probably has in his/her kitchen drawer. After the flaws in all of these cheap knives are exploited, you describe the features outlined in the previous paragraph. Now it's time for another test. To actually put their knives against yours, you tell them to go get a few of their favorite knives from their kitchen drawer. You do comparison tests letting them use their knives to cut rope and leather and then use yours to prove CutCo superiority. Below the "My Sales Pitch" section, I have provided the videos for both the leather and rope tests, just as they are performed in most CutCo demos. After these demonstrations, you then explain the Forever Guarantee and then go into each of the common knives/utensils that you offer and touch on a few specialty ones. Finally you summarize the information and then compare CutCo to a few competitors. You first surprise them with a huge price for a competitors cutlery set price (Henkals) and then relieve them when you let them know that Cutco doesn't cost that much. Before revealing CutCo prices, you highlight its features again in comparison to the high-priced competitor set. Finally, you start talking prices, hoping that your demo has raised enough value that the price will not seem like such a shocker.
Now comes the part that is a bit controversial in my eyes.
Once prices have been mentioned, the whole tone of the demo seems to change. You tell the customer that if they buy today (the very day of your demo) then they get special gifts or bonus merchandise. If they seem undecided, you are supposed to mention the payment plans (2,3, or 5 payments). If they still decline, you move on to the next set. This method is called "dropping down". You continue to drop down to each set a bit smaller, a bit less expensive, and a bit less free gifts than the one before. Each time you mention what it would be on each of the payment plans and pushing the free gifts that they would also receive. Before you can move to the next set, a sales rep is supposed to get a definite "NO" from the customer about the set in question. If you exhaust all of your sets, you ask them to pick 5 items that they liked and give them a small discount if they bought all of them, then you do a 3 piece set, and then you are supposed to go for just a single piece. No matter what the outcome, the sales rep keeps asking for the sale on smaller purchases. Also, no matter what the customer has already bought or not bought, the sales rep is then to move onto specialty knives, gift items, and accessories/gadgets. Finally, the sales rep is to touch on the gardening and outdoors section of CutCo products to try and add a little bit more to the customers order.
After all of these tactics have been used, the sales rep finally starts to clean up the demo, packing the products back into the red velvet wrapping and cleaning up the penny, rope, and leather demo scraps. During this process, the sales rep is to ask the customer if they could take a few minutes to write down some leads for people that they don't think would mind doing an appointment with you. This step is crucial as it is where your business comes from and without it, you will run cold after you have used up your family and friends and will be out of a job.
CutCo Super Shears Penny Test
teach that penny a lesson....
"MY" SALES PITCH

The previous section described exactly what a new sales rep at vector marketing is taught to do when conducting a demonstration for their Cutco products. These tactics may work for some people, but as a person who has been hassled, and sold to quite often, I could not conduct myself this way, especially in front of family and friends. I did not want to become the "black sheep" of my family or circle of friends, the one who is always trying to make a buck off of relationships with people. If you want to be successful and not burn bridges, then I urge you to listen up for this section especially and take notes.
I will have to admit that the beginning is golden. I hardly touched anything in the presentation up to the part when money was involved. I introduce the company, cut the penny (then sometimes I allow my customers to do it as well because they love it!), and then move on to the flaws with common kitchen cutlery. I make sure to stress all of the differences between normal knives and the cutco cutlery during the features section because you want your customer to know that these aren't normal knives. I do the rope/leather tests and normally just let my customers do both so that they can experience the difference first-hand. I detail the guarantee and make sure to stress the money back guarantee and mention that CutCo is a buyers-remorse free product. When explaining each of the common knives and some of the specialty ones, I make sure to give examples of the uses that would cater to my customer so that they can relate and think, "yea, I could use that". I also ask them about things like "do you eat a lot of bread?" to introduce the next item instead of just telling them about it. This way, they can feel the need for the knife instead of me just telling them they need it. What you also have to do is realize that not every item is for everyone and you have to be able to tell a customer that they don't need some of your products. If they don't eat much bread, I tell them that the bread knife would be a waste of money. Your customers will respect you for your honest advice, even though it is hurting your commissions, and will actually buy more from you because they know that if you make a suggestion, you are telling the truth. I do the Henkals comparison because it is a good strategy to let people know that CutCo is by-far not the most expensive knives they could be buying, this way they don't feel like CutCo is way out of their reach.
Now comes the money talk. Now I know everyone has a different opinion about things like sales techniques, but I am going to tell you what works for me. I am almost 19 years old and I have already had enough sales people try and shove their products down my throat to last a lifetime. It doesn't make me want to buy anything and actually deters me from ever buying so much as a pack of gum from that company ever again. This sale is called a "hard-sale" and although abrasive and rude, is used my hundreds of thousands of successful salespeople. It's hard to admit but being pushy works a lot more than you would think it could, but I have moral dilemmas with its use so I cannot and will not condone its practice. I approach my sales a different way and am very happy with the results.
First off, if someone didn't want the set that was $900, they most likely won't be over ecstatic about the $880 set either. As a salesperson, you have to detect your customer's price range by the way they react to the price of that first big set that you introduce to them. It's your job to understand their financial situation and narrow their needs down to something they feel comfortable spending. Ask them what items they like most or think would be most likely to use often and try and find a set that includes them all or most of them and offer that set to them. This way they know you have their interests and their spending in mind and are not just trying for the most money that you can squeeze out of them. If they seem interested in particular set I will elaborate on the payment plans we offer if they do not wish to pay all at once, but I notify them of the charges that will be implied (only a few dollars but still dishonest if you don't mention them). If they do not seem interested in a set at all, it is important not to patronize them with payments options for something they don't want. If they don't want a set, I do use the 3 piece plan because normally people can find a few pieces that they really like or would use and this is really popular for someone who wants to start building a set piece by piece to spread out their purchases if they don't have the finances to make a large purchase. As I am cleaning up, I give them my booklet and turn to the gadgets, utensils, and other products that CutCo offers and just tell them to glance through it to see if anything catches their eye. Normally I can get a sale here just by mentioning that a lot of the small gift packages or gadgets are great gift ideas for birthdays, weddings, anniversaries, etc. Of all the people in someone's life (both family and friends) there is normally always an occasion approaching that they haven't bought a gift for yet and this is one of the easiest sales you will ever get.
You have to know when to call it quits. After I show them the pages to look through, I do not mention anything more about purchasing. I ask them if my demo was good and any improvements that I can make. I ask them what they thought of the products and normally mention my favorites or just talk to them if I know them better. I then let them know how my business works in regards to future appointments. Normally, If you have done your demo like I have outlined, leads from your appointments should be the easiest part of your demo. You will be surprised at how many referrals you will receive if you are nice, courteous, and non-pushy during your demo. The truth is, if your demo was pleasant, relaxed, and didn't make the customer feel uncomfortable, they will have no problem referring you to every one of their friends and family members. I've actually had customers excited to pull out their phones and find people that they want to see the products because my sales pitch was pleasant and enjoyable.
To be honest, I didn't know how my sales approach was going to work out. I believe it was the day that I strolled in to the office from one of my best appointments. I had only sold barely $100 on it, which was not anything to boast about, but the customer was so pleased with my approach and my non-pushy whatever you need attitude, that she gave me over 50 leads to people she wanted me to do the demo for. Most of the reps in my office were scrounging for leads, calling the same people multiple times, desperately trying to book their next appointment, while I was overflowed with possible customers. With my approach, I guarantee that you will probably sell less on each appointment, but you will never run out of people to meet and make appointments with. In the long run, you will keep your relationships with your friends and family in tact while keeping your sales business running strong, while others will run dry.
CutCo table knife vs. normal steak knife leather cutting test
because even CutCo table knives are deadly....
CutCo carving knife vs. straight edge and serrated edge knives
yumm....rope....tastes like chicken
SO HOW DO I GET MY CASH?

I believe one of the main things we haven't covered yet is the pay. I didn't want you to see the numbers and form your opinion before you knew all of the facts but now that you a bit more informed, here they are. In my area (I've heard varying prices from other areas), the base payment was $14. This is per appointment, whether someone buys something or not. They advertise as $14 per hour and then train you to finish an appointment in one hour but me being the talkative type and being someone who doesn't like to rush around, I normally scheduled my appointments 2 hours apart from each other. This is best because is keeps you from having to rush through someone's appointment and from having to rush them to make a decision at the end. Plus, it takes awhile to write down over 50 referrals! hahaha ok..had to boast a little
This basically meant that I was making about $7 per hour without factoring in fuel for my vehicle. This was do-able, but I didn't sign up for this job to make minimum wage, I wanted more. This is where the commission comes into play, and what separates the boys from the men (or girls from woman...lol).
Every sales rep starts out at 10%. This just means that your commission is calculated at 10% of the CPO for the sale. CPO is based on the order and is basically the price of the order before shipping and tax minus any special gifts that you gave away. (yes, if you give away free stuff, it decreases your commissions slightly but it is better to give away free stuff to get a sale than to be greedy and lose the sale). YOU DO NOT RECEIVE BASE PAY PLUS COMMISSION. Instead you receive base pay OR commission. This is like most sales jobs, where the base pay ($14 for me) will keep you alive but the sales is where the big bucks are. The base pay is just there to ensure that you are rewarded for your efforts even if you had a bad appointment or just a customer that was completely uninterested. At 10%, you sale will have to be above $140 for you to achieve a value higher than base pay. At the end of every week, your base pays are calculated and your commissions are summed and which ever is higher is the one that you will receive a check for (direct deposit is easiest for me). So a good week will be commission based and a stale week will be all base pays for your appointments. The good thing about the commission section as that with hard work and success, it gets better. There are different tiers of sales and each is related to a better percentage of pay. After your first $1000 of sales you will begin to receive 15% instead of 10%. The rest of the tiers (for my office at least) are listed below:
$3,000+ is 20%
$6,000+ is 25%
$10,000+ is 30%
$20,000+ is 40%
$25,000+ is 45%
$30,000+ is 50%
As you can see, as you move up in the ranks of sales, the minimum you must sell on an appointment (or more importantly your minimum average sales per appointment for the week) can be lower and yet you will still receive more than base pay for that week.
Lets take the same situation, at 10% you need to sell at least $140 on every appointment to achieve pay higher than base pay.
If you achieve 20%, you only need to sell half that much on average per appointment (only $70) to achieve higher than base pay.
At 30% you only need roughly $50 average appointment sales.
And finally, if you achieve 50%, a measly $28 per appointment will score you higher than base pay (although if you have achieved this tier of percentage, I would hope that your average sale per appointment is higher than $28..lol)
If you work hard at this position, it can be quite lucrative
OVERALL SUMMARY
So you have read through (most of it at least I hope!) and it's time to make a decision. Vector yes or Vector no? In my opinion, it's split like this.
Yes, they do have a lot of salespeople managing which has its pros and cons
-It will most likely be successful because the people running it have already shown great success to be in the position to start an office in the first place
-The major con here is that sometimes the managers do not know when to stop selling and when to start acting like your co-worker. In my opinion, they could try a little harder to treat their reps like associates and not like customers that they are trying to sell this position to.
POSSIBLE SHADINESS
A lot of people bash vector and they might bring some of this to themselves by their potentially shady practices which upsets me a little
-they do act like the "position" you are interviewing for is a single position, not an opportunity that will be acted on by a lot of people
-they try and hide the fact that it is a sales position a little too hard
-they notify potential sales reps of the cost of the demo set a bit late in the process for my taste but people should do their homework as well before trying a new job they have never heard of before, also they should have a little common sense and realize that even demo sets cost money and a company can't afford to let 20 demo sets go off with no promises or guarantee that they are coming back.
-they try to make you think that you MUST follow the script exactly and that every team meeting is an absolute requirement to work there
-they try and force you to work on their schedule even though it is technically a work-when-you-want job.
HOW TO OVERCOME THESE TRAITS
Like all sales positions, this one has the above traits and sometimes they drive people away. You just can't give up. You have to take everything taught to you with a grain of salt and then think "would I want a salesperson to do this to me?" Yea it is a small investment to get the demo set but you couldn't very well do the demo without it so if you are serious about this position, it is a small price to pay. (I earned the cost of the set in my first few sales so it's really not that bad). You also have to know how to stand up for yourself. The managers and workers at vector marketing, just like any other sales based business, are just that, they are salespeople. They have been training for years in the art of getting people to do what they want so you have to be able to stand up for yourself and make them understand that they will honor their word. If they said it was work-when-you-want, then gosh-darnit you are going to do just that. I never went to the meetings, and pretty much only stopped by the office when I needed more rope/leather for my demos or needed to drop off my order forms. I'm not sure if not participating can withhold your base pay so please check into this before you decide to follow my example. If you are struggling and are relying on the base pay as you only pay, then you might want to attend the meetings until you are all on commissions, then you can do more of your own things because they can't deny you your commissions.
OVERALL this job is a good avenue for someone who is hard working and a quick learner. You must be compassionate in your demos and you must put the feelings and needs of the customer over your own if you wish to succeed. You must stand up for yourself against the other salespeople and you must know how to shrug things off that you know aren't right and do your own thing. As an independent salesperson, you must be just that....INDEPENDENT and if you can master that, there's no reason why you can't succeed with Vector Marketing.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY?
I hope you found this article helpful!! If you liked it or disliked it please leave your thoughts and concerns in the comment box below! I can't wait to hear from everyone and please, just as the last comment box, keep your comments professional and well thought out (no cursing or statements with no meaning including bashing of any sort unless you have legitimate reasoning behind your statements, thank you!). If you enjoyed my lens, or just my writing style in general then check some of my other lenses. My most recent lens reviews an online money making opportunity called uploadpay so check it out! Uploadpay Lens
If you have a question just for me, please email me at raffleking@gmail.com
Also! if you are interested in selling cutco or buying it, just let me know at the same email address. I can help you set up an appointment for an interview at your local office or if you are interested in purchasing some cutco products I will be more than happy to help you out, just shoot me an email at raffleking@gmail.com thank you all for reading and good luck in all of your future endeavors!!
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Anonymoose
May 21, 2012 @ 7:50 pm | delete
- Just posting to put my own comment in.
I'm starting my first ten days as a representative, and it's been a pretty nerve wracking one. Between the bad news I keep reading about Cutco and Vector and the nervousness I have just talking to people I haven't spoke to in years, trying to get them to let me visit and give a spiel, I'm having a bit of a heart attack.
I liked how you prescribed not exactly following the script: one of my appointments (no sell, but not because he didn't like the product) noted that I sounded wooden when following the script, but felt more lively when I went off the script to add my own comments. I'm going to try to apply the lessons and tips you have here: I want to be successful, but, even though the "drop down" technique is very successful, it doesn't always make me comfortable to use it when I think it's being too pushy.
Also, we didn't have to pay for our kits, either, though we only get four items, making it a bit challenging to demonstrate the quality of some of our other products.
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sheymyster
May 25, 2012 @ 9:31 pm | delete
- I'm glad that you found my "softer sale" approach to be more comfortable, I know it felt natural to me. The drop-down method is very effective and I'm sure on average it leads to more sales, but in my opinion in a customer service position such as a sales rep for vector, career sales shouldn't be the only concern. I hope you are successful and I must commend your overall attitude toward the whole thing. I'm glad that other people can see that a "one size fits all" rarely works and that sometimes the most money isn't always the best solution. Good luck in your position, I hope it works out great for you.
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Aaron
Feb 15, 2012 @ 8:02 pm | delete
- I'm glad you mentioned the fact that it really isn't on you're own time. I'm a college student and tried vector but could not stand how terrible they made me feel for not trying to fit in atleast 3 appointments a day regardless of my school schedule. One time I was going to hang out with my girlfriend after not seeing her for a week or two and they told me that i should try calling people to set up appointments instead. I know they are there to motivate you and push you but none of them seem to know when enough is enough. Solely based on that it was probably one of the worst experiences ever.
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sheymyster
Mar 19, 2012 @ 6:43 pm | delete
- The key here is that however much they try to guilt trip you and "encourage" you to work during every second of free time, they cannot make you do so. This job can be about as freelance as it gets if you stand your ground and stand up for yourself when they finger get's wagging at you. Yes, they would love if you worked every minute you could, but you deserve the flexible schedule you were promised. Please don't take this as an invitation to insult or bad mouth them, they are still your employers and you still must act professional, but you can work whenever you want and your allowed to professionally and politely say NO.
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missrossoni
Jun 29, 2011 @ 4:40 pm | delete
- Hello there:) I work for vector now and i know it differs with each area. Our base is 16.75/appt, and our sample kit is on loaner (like a library book: you can check it in when you go on vacation or something like that) the sales pitch you described is a wee bit different now too. we go into the specialty knives and gadgets and accessories before discussing prices (as well as cookware, flatware, and gardening tools). and i know that your ONE appointment where you got 50+ recos is hot stuff, just just a thought- what we do is finish the demo and pack up while they give us recs (instead of having them flip through the catalog then decide they want an order after you're packed). Also, if you take a long time to pack up, they will also think of more people to write down. I do respect your sales pitch and i am glad its working out for you, but to others reading this (who wont stay with it as long as you did) will want to have larger orders. That can be obtained by the dropping down method.
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sheymyster
Aug 2, 2011 @ 12:27 pm | delete
- I understand your concern, I'm glad that the recommended method works for you. I provided this article as an alternative technique to the norm though, as I do not believe in asking someone multiple times to buy slightly less expensive items. Yes, it could lead to bigger sales, but in my opinion that is only because the customer feels bad for denying you every time you ask them to buy something. Finally they will say yes in fear of looking un-wealthy or just to get you to stop badgering them. That is just my opinion, you can sell how you like of course, but for my readers who prefer my sales method of a completely no-strings-attached sales pitch that is truly just a demo, buy or not the customer doesn't feel pressured, then the method I provided should be sufficient.
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Current Cutco Rep @140K in career sales
Jan 27, 2012 @ 2:18 pm | delete
- I understand your feelings. For the first 10,000 I sold, I did something similar. However, you say "slight" and reference going from 900 to 880... which is exaggerated. With current prices, there is a 150-200 gap between large sets. And 50-100 gap between smaller steps. The only reasons a customer would want less is if it was more pieces than they wanted or too much money. Either way, by dropping down you are solving the concern and showing them less knives for less money but still a great value. Once I got back on the company philosophy, my sales increased. I became more comfortable and confident dropping down when I saw it as problem-solving vs. "the next best thing". Felt more like customer service and customer consulting. You will only feel this way if you believe they should own what you are showing though. If you believe the customer should own one knife, you are not likely to sell many sets. If you believe in the sets and drop down, customers will find the place that fits in best for them. If you jump from one set all the way down, you deny showing the customer all of their options. Not saying someone can't succeed following the approach suggested here, but there is a reason the company uses this approach after decades of experience because it is the most effective. Hope this helps to those searching for it.
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sheymyster
Mar 19, 2012 @ 6:41 pm | delete
- Again I appreciate your input but I still fail to see how asking "would you like to purchase this" at every single possible price level is customer service friendly behavior. I never said that I refused to show every set to every customer, I am by no means profiling my customers and their wealth and willingness to spend money on these knives. I love the knives and believe in them 100% but by your logic if I believe in the knives everyone should be able to afford the best set, and that is faulty at best. If I offer a set that costs $900 ish and they cringe at the enormous price, i am not going to insult them with an offer for (as you said $150 less) $750. Usually when they are surprised by the large price I encourage them that this is a lifetime purchase and that it's the last knives they will ever need to buy, but that if that is too much what price were they thinking. If you find the price range they want to spend, you an always upsale that a bit with the enforcment of the lifetime guarantee and quality, but people are going to spend what they can afford, and if I ever get someone to put themselves in a bind buying my product, I may have succeeded as a vector marketing sales rep, but failed as a human being. Again, I appreciate your loyalty to the vector model but also choose to use a method that tends to EVERYONE's financial situation, not just people who can afford to make smart yet large investments.
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laraeml
May 31, 2011 @ 8:47 pm | delete
- I appreciated your article. I think this job, like many other jobs is exactly what you make of it. In my office, it's $16 per appointment and the demo kit is free, so that definitely takes some of the sting out of it. I do have to say that when I got the phone calls for the interviews etc, the secretary did imply that there were limited spaces remaining, and made it pretty clear that if I didn't get in the very next day I was going to lose my chance, which is funny because weeks later, I hear her giving that same spiel to other potential sales reps. So, that part of it I feel a little deceived about. As far as the sales tactics, it's exactly how you stated. The products are awesome and should sell themselves, but I do disagree with how hard they try to get us to sell the products. While I do initially try to sell a full set, after one or two no's by the customer, I don't continue to badger them. I just politely ask for leads, clean up the demo, remind them they can purchase one or two pieces at a time and leave my business card with them. This has netted me more referrals because I didn't piss them off, and I've actually gotten a couple call-backs from initial refusals. Overall, great article.
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missrossoni
Jun 29, 2011 @ 4:53 pm | delete
- Hi there!
I just wanted to explain a little about the hiring process at vector.
I am the receptionist manager in an office in the north pacific region (which is the top selling region in vector consistently).
If we had scheduled you for an interview for a later date, you most likely would not have shown up. I do not mean to make any judgments on you or your integrity, but the percentage of recruits who show up and were NOT scheduled for the next possible interview (or the one immediately following) is slim to none. People who are scheduled for the same day they are spoken to have a higher chance of showing up- statistically. The receptionists work extremely hard, and the method they use works (you came in). We dont mean to deceive you. I have been working here for a while and honestly think this is one of the best opportunities for young people to have as a starting position.I want what is best for the people I speak to on the phone, which in my opinion, is this job. I want recruits to show up to the interview because it has the potential to affect their lives in SUCH a positive way. My favorite part of being a receptionist manager is seeing the results of my hard work in getting people in to work here. I spoke with one of the top recruiting offices in the western region and she told me the most rewarding moment of her career was when a young man came up to her thanking her for the opportunity, because he could now afford an apartment (when before vector he was struggling to buy diapers for his son).
No deception intended :) I hope vector has worked out well for you
find the receptionist who scheduled you and thank her/him if vector has been a positive experience in your life!
:)
best wishes and God bless
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sheymyster
Aug 2, 2011 @ 12:32 pm | delete
- I am so glad to hear that people are enjoying my article, and even more so applying my techniques and getting positive results. A happy customer is always good, even if they don't buy anything. They will give you recs that will actually buy something instead of people they don't mind putting through your rough sales pitch if it is instead enjoyable and a true "demo". I hope your success continues!
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Lee
Nov 23, 2010 @ 1:01 am | delete
- Wow, your page is amazing yo presented the information in a easy and tactful way. I wish you all the success in your career because remembe: When you try and help others, your efforts do nt go un-noticed! God Bless 0)
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sheymyster
Dec 12, 2010 @ 4:32 pm | delete
- Thank you for the compliment, I have taken a break from Vector Marketing for the time being because I was chosen for a position at my university to be a Resident Advisor for my Housing Department. It covers all of my expenses at the university but it is very time demanding, but I will always keep my CutCo kit around, just in case I find time to do a few demos. I am also pursuing a few other online venues for extra cash, and will most likely be getting back into the squidoo world as well soon, as soon as finals are over! Hopefully I will have a few more articles out on here about my other sources of income, hope they help!
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Randy - Ocala "Dynasty" District, FL
Feb 21, 2012 @ 10:23 pm | delete
- Vector is now doing virtual demos. Instead of the normal in home demo, you call your customer and guide them through the website and show some videos and they can purchase. Great way to gain so extra income when you're busy, new to the area, or anything. Awesome in this age of vast, online purchasing.
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