Review of the Forex Killer Trading Software

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A Review of the Forex-Killer Software

Forex Killer v 3.32 is a desktop application software (a computer program) created by a team of professionals lead by a former Deutsche Bank currency trading adviser. The program has a few quirks (read on) but nevertheless the results are very impressive. Overall, it is a very reliable, simple to use and VERY profitable signal generator for the Forex spot market.

There has been a lot of turmoil in the forex forums with some folks swearing by this software and proclaiming it to be the Holy Grail of Forex, others deeming it useless and yet others declaring Forex-Killer to be an outright scam, so I will try to answer these questions in this review:


"Is Forex Killer a SCAM?"
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"Can I make money with the Forex Killer Software?"

I will also provide a basic overview of the program's functionality and explain how to use it and what other tools you could use to improve the reliability of the ForexKiller signals as well as how to properly manage your trading capital.

If you decide to buy it - make sure you scroll to the bottom of this page, I'll show you a neat trick which will allow you to get it at a discount price! :)

Important News-Flash: New Forex-Killer update available.

May 2008:
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A new update (3.32) of the Forex-Killer System was issued on May 02, 2008: fixed a problem in the neuro-algorithm logic and added integration with DealBook360's export file format for easy loading into Forex Killer.

March 2008:
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Forex-Killer v3.0 Released on March 20, 2008!

Additionally included is a MONEY MANAGER, a Trendline Builder and a VIDEO Tutorial.

Is Forex-Killer a SCAM? 

Despite the somewhat cheesy and hyped-up home page on the Forex-Killer.com web-site, the Forex-Killer software, which we review here, is definitely not a scam.

Created in 2005 by Andreas Kirchberger, an independant developer and a former Deutsche Bank currency trading adviser, the ForexKiller software sold over 2000 copies in the first month(!) after being released to the general public in early 2006. The program is an automated FOREX signal generator which delivers completely on it's promises and if operated correctly will enhance and improve one's trading experience and increase the potential for generating consistent profitable trades.

Being sold exclusively through ClickBank, the Internet's leading retailer of digital products, Forex-Killer, like all other ClickBank products, is guaranteed to be virus- and spyware-free. The unconditional 8-week Money-back Guarantee, backed by ClickBank's product publishing policy, turns your purchase into a Risk-Free Trial! On top of the guarantee, Forex-Killer, unlike many other products sold on the internet, where the only means of getting customer support is through an online form or an email, provides a customer support phone number for customers to call with problems and questions. As a matter of fact the phone number is one of the first things a user sees on their home page. Andreas Kirchberger, the creator of Forex-Killer answers emails sent to his email address and the telephone provided on his web-site works.

The claim "free software updates for life" also appears to hold true, with the last release of an updated version having been distributed in Nov 2007.

[Update: Latest version of Forex Killer is now 3.0, released on March 20, 2008]

[Update: Latest version of Forex Killer is now 3.32, released in early May 2008]

The Forex-Killer Software - a quick overview 

The intended audience for the Forex-Killer trading software are new or intermediate traders, just as the forex-killer-system.com web-site suggests.

Forex Killer works only on PC, there is no Mac version.

The software is very easy to install and operate, and it integrates nicely with popular trading platforms such as MetaTrader 4 (MT4) from MetaQuotes Corp., FXCM's Trading Station and DealBook 360 from Global Forex Trading (GFT) .

To generate the signals Forex-Killer needs the closing prices for the last 10 long term and short term periods.

If your trading platform does not integrate with Forex-Killer you will still be able to use FK but you will have to enter the data yourself. The 10 fields at the top of the screen allow you to enter these prices. Entering 10 numbers into a text box once a day shouldn't be too hard, though, what do you think?

Based on the data entered FK will then generate the short term and long term signals for the currency pair. "Short term" in FK terminology (see the Manual) refers to 5 min, 15 min, 30 min and 1 hour timeframes. Long term is any timeframe which is greater than 1 hour, such as 4 hr, 1 day and 1 week timeframe periods.

As explained above Forex Killer is not tied to any particular broker so it does not provide the price data. You will get these from your client software, which will be provided to you by your broker when you open a demo or live trading account. If you don't have a preferred broker/dealer yet, it is very advisable to do some research and choose a reliable broker.

My personal favorite, as far as the client software goes is the Meta Trader 4 platform, because it combines charts and trading into one convenient and easy to use interface. A list and side-by-side comparison of all MetaTrader brokers is available in the Trader Resources section of this site: www.fxsoftwaresolutions.com. You will also find more technical and in-depth reviews of various Forex software (including a Forex-Killer review) there.
The forexbastards.com site is another excellent source of independent and impartial reviews of Forex brokers and systems.

Once you've decided on a broker open a DEMO account, download their trading software and familirize yourself with it. Do this before(!) opening any live accounts and live trades! Remember - your dealer (broker) is more important than your trading platform.

Forex-Killer - the "User Manual" 

Full instructions on how to use the system are available in the PDF manual that comes with the system but if you want a detailed preview please read this independent Review of the Forex Killer system at fxsoftwaresolutions.com.

The entire process is very straight forward and all it takes to generate the signals is 2 quick simple steps - click the picture for a larger view.

In Step 1 you enter the 10 last Closing price of the currency pair you wish to trade. You do this by using the Load button to import the data generated by your trading platform.

Next, in Step 2, set the time frame - make sure it matches your selected time frame for the prices you entered. In other words if you used 30 min closing prices then set this field to "30 min". Also, in the same control group set the currency symbol, e.g. EURUSD and Market (Forex).

...and you're done!

All that's left is to press the Calculate button. Forex Killer will now calculate the trade probabilities and will come up with a corresponding signal: Buy, Sell or No Trade.

The Forex Killer system will also calculate a projected target price for you (long-term and short term) as well as suggested Stop Loss and Take Profit levels. You can adjust these levels if you like.

Keep in mind that even if you get a "No Trade" it's only relevant to the selected timeframe. i.e. a No Trade on a 5 min chart does not mean that Forex Killer will not generate a buy or sell signal on the 1-hour or 30 min time frame.

 

Practical Trading Tips for using Forex-Killer 

When placing an order (Buy or Sell), the long term and short term signals generated by Forex Killer DON'T HAVE TO match, i.e. they don't necessarily have to be both Buy or both Sell. However it is a VERY GOOD idea, especially if your long term signal is Daily and your short term signals are 1/2 hr or 1 hr. This means that you will not be trading against the daily trend and therefore your chances of entering a winning trade increase.

DO NOT use Forex Killer to "trade the news". Wait them out, then trade. Sometimes it may even be advisable to close an existing trade before a major economic announcement. The volatile market conditions during such announcements can not possibly be predicted and accounted for by a signal generator software such as Forex Killer. When air gets choppy the pilots turn the autopilot off, take the yoke and steer the plane away - be smart, do the same and you will avoid many unnecessary "crashes".

You may use some of your favorite indicators as a filter or a confirmation for the signals generated by Forex-Killer, although I personally would advise against this. My reasoning is simple: either you trust Forex-Killer or you don't. Either you want the comfort and convenience of trading on autopilot or you want to do it all on your own. Either you are a seasoned Forex Trader that "don't need no signal software to tell me what to do" -- in which case you probably do not need Forex Killer -- or you are a novice or intermediate trader and in this case it is better to stick with one good system to avoid confusion, hesitation and discretionary decisions based on misinterpreted analysis of two or more systems.

Closing Open Positions. In theory, if you set up your Take Profit (T/P) and Stop Loss (S/L) levels as calculated by Forex Killer you should not be concerned with closing position as they will be closed automatically when these levels are reached. Howver I found that it may be useful to also follow the following rules:
* Close your position IF it is in profit AND FK's signal strength reduces (i.e. from 69% BUY becomes a 62% BUY).
* Close your position IF FK's signal becomes "NO TRADE" or reverses (reverses meaning that you opened e.g. a SELL position and the signal is now BUY). In these cases I would recommend closing your position for a small loss. The "NO TRADE" condition will be indicated by a Yellow no "No Trade" button in the upper right corner of you Short/Long Term signal charts (see picture at top of this section).

NOTE: The above are CONSERVATIVE rules, if you want to be more aggressive, just use the T/P and S/L signals from the software and let your trades "ride it" to the end.

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Forex Killer - Criticism 

... the stuff that the folks at Forex Killer conveniently "forgot" to mention on their web page...

1. Since we just were on the "scam" topic I want to comment on something that certain folks may find somewhat controversial at first glance - the guy in the video is not Andreas Krischberger. He is a hired actor, part of LiveFaceOnWeb's team of actors and marketing professionals and and he is actually doing a pretty good job promoting the product.

While some may find it "unethical", think about this: Andreas Kirchberger is not an actor and not a native English speaker. He wants to record a short video presentation promoting his product, targeted at native English speakers. If you ask me, I think Andreas decided that he'll do what he knows best - design a forex trading software that works - and leave the marketing to the marketing professionals.

I personally don't see any crime in this. If I wanted to sell a product in China I would probably do the same. Come think of it, we see this approach every day - the guy with the Dutch accent in the ING Direct commercials is also an actor (Frederik De Groot, that's his photo up there) and not ING's CEO Michel Tilmant.

2.The Forex Killer comes with a Manual explaining how to use the software and an "Introduction to Forex" book. While the manual is very concise and easy to follow the other book is overly simple and pretty much useless and in my opinion the folks over at Forex-Killer-System.com would be better off providing their users with a couple of suggestions for free (or even paid!) resources on the Intro to Forex and Forex Trading Education topic rather then adding this quickie ebook to the package.

One great resource on Forex education is the excellent "Forex Mentor" course from Peter Bain, a long time professional Forex Trader from Vancouver, BC, Canada.

3. While it is true that the system is extremely simple and user-friendly certain parts of the product description on the web-site, like "no experience necessary", should be read leniently. If you've never been behind the wheel of a vehicle you can't just jump into a car (even the smartest car in the world) and expect to start driving like a professional Formula 1 race pilot. As with all power tools, experience, is indeed very desirable. And it is something you will only gain over time. Don't let the first two successful trades cloud your judgment.

The web-site is correct in the sense that, yes, if you follow the steps in the manual, you can use the software and make some decent profit even if you have absolutely no experience in the FOREX market, support and resistance levels, stop-loss and take-profit orders, basic technical and fundamental analysis and major news events and reports (such as for example the Non-Farm Payroll report). It would be advisable however to read more on the topic of Forex trading as this will be both interesting and beneficial to you as a future Forex trader.

And of course, regardless of what the web-site says you will, at the very least, need to learn how to open a trading account with a forex broker, download and install the broker's trading platform (a.k.a. as trading software or trading station - this is the software which will allow you to enter trade orders online. It is something independent and totally different from the Forex Killer software) and familiarize yourself with that particular trading platform in order to gain some trading mechanics and basic knowledge, i.e. how to read the quotes and stats displayed by the software, where to click to open and close a trade, how to enter a stop-loss, etc. Don't worry - it is no rocket science and won't take more than a couple of hours of your time.

So to summarize - the closest we got so far to accusing Forex-Killer of being a scam is the fact that the Forek Killer marketing department hired an actor to deliver a message from Andres Kirchberger and also the somewhat exaggerated claim that using ForexKiller you can start trading right away without the need for any Forex-trading education.

4. Better integration with dealer/broker trading software could have been provided, in particular getting the current closing price from the platform rather than the user having to enter it manually. In particular the MetaTrader platform, with it's exposed and well-documented API could have been integrated with Forex-Killer.

If you are unsure which broker to pick - a list of all Meta Trader forex brokers is available at www.fxsoftwaresolutions.com.

One possible explanation for why this integraion has not been done is to keep the Forex Killer system as generic as possible, with no dependence on third-party systems. The Forex-Killer page claims that the software "works with any dealer, in any country" and indeed it is true. Another possible explanation is that the Forex-Killer programmers put all their efforts into writing a profitable trading algorithm and slacked off on this one :)

5. Forex Killer is only available for the PC/Win32 platform, Mac, Linux are not supported.

Forex-Killer Reviews and Testimonials 

Testimonials. Which ones can we trust?

The testimonials on the forex-killer-system web site do look sincere and convincing.

However...

Think about this: would you stick a negative testimonial on your own web-site? Don't think so. You would select your customers' best experience and use those as testimonials. I am sure you would pay very close attention to what your customers complain about and would work hard to improve your product but I bet you wouldn't use their complaints as a testimonial.

So the testimonials on the website, although honest, represent the views of those users who are very happy with the product.

If you want to read negative testimonials (because there are some) look for independent, unbiased, sources of testimonials, such as related discussion groups and forums. Actually in the case of Forex Killer, again you will see that the software has predominantly positive reviews on various independent forex user groups, web-sites, blogs and forums, including the flagship of anti-scam Forex discussion boards - "forexbastards.com" (recently renamed to "forexpeacearmy.com"), where Forex-Killer was given favourable reviews by the majority of traders who used it. The majority of negative testimonials are complaints about tardy customer support response, not about the quality of the software. Andreas Kirchberger appears frequently on this forum and answers users' questions and concerns.

To read the Forex-Killer review page on the forexpeacearmy forum click here or go to http://www.forexpeacearmy.com, and find it in the Reviews, the "Other Services Reviews" section, then find Forex-Killer in the list of reviewed web-sites.

TIP #1: When using ForexBastards.com, or any other ratings system, for that matter, always sort the reviews by number of reviewers. This will give you an idea of the popularity of a certain course, software or broker - it's easy for a scammer to ask a couple of his buddies to go and write a fake 5-star review for a product they sell, but when you have 40 or 80 people saying that a service "rocks" (or "sucks"!) that means something!

It's a better sign when a product has 50 reviews with a 3-out-of-5 or 4-out-of-5 stars rating, rather than 7 reviews all giving a 5 out of 5.

TIP #2: As with the product testimonials, some caution is in order when reading negative reviews, too. Keep in mind that the majority of people don't bother posting comments and when they do - they post MOSTLY negative comments.

Why?

Because people usually would only go through the trouble of signing up and posting comments in a forum only if they were unhappy with the product. If I am a happy Forex-Killer user will I waste my time in forums telling people how great it is? Well, I guess I might, but typically a post in a discussion forum comes from people who have problems and are searching for answers. And these aren't your happy and forgiving crowd.

So if a product has e.g. 3 out of 5 stars it is actually a pretty good product as it shows that even with such biased distribution of posters (favoring the "unhappy" customers) it still manages to pull a positive rating!

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"Will I make money with the Forex-Killer?" 

Good question. The truth is - the only person who can answer it, is you. Think of Forex-Killer as your very own, very serious and potentially very profitable home business. As with any business - there is a promise of better life-style but no guarantees of success. As with any business - there is an initial investment (time, effort and money) to be made. As with any business - the beginning is hard. As with any business - it's all in your hands!

That is the nature of business, that is why not everyone is an entrepreneur, why 90% of people work for someone else all their life, for a measly paycheck, barely enough to cover their monthly expenses.

Forex-Killer is not a crystal ball which can predict every possible future currency move from now to eternity. It is a software, a very good software, designed and tested by professionals and used every day by thousands of folks, just like you and me, but it is just a piece of software.

Forex Killer Results 

Below is a test of the Forex Killer System performed on May 12. The test covers a 24 hr period (approximately).

The results were a profit of +670 pips. A oversimplified explanation of what this means is terms of dollars is: One pip is equal to 10 dollars if you are trading one lot of currency. Most beginner traders will usually trade mini-lots or micro lots which are, respectively, 10 times and 100 times less than 1 standard lot. In other words the above trading test would have the potential to generate you between $670 to $67 (in 24 hrs) based on your trading account settings.

More details on the test available here.



These results are definitely impressive. However...

Pay attention that I say "the potential" because you would not be able to constantly open trades every half hour for a period of 24 hours.

Why? For a number of reasons, main two being physical exhaustion and insufficient margin in your account.

What I CAN say however is:

1. The software works. Forex Killer consistently generates significantly more winning signals than losing ones, which combined with the trade setup (Take Profit levels higher than Stop/Loss levels) gives you a significant advantage over the market. If you follow the instructions and recommendations provided with the product there's nothing that can stop you from making money with it and the more you trade the better you will get at it.

2. There's a money back guarantee. Trading is not for everybody. If you're not satisfied or not comfortable with it - simply ask for your money back. So even if you don't make money with Forex-Killer you won't lose any, either!

3. It is very easy to make money in Forex. Read this again: "It is very easy to make money in Forex". Now read this THREE TIMES: "...but it is very hard to keep doing it consistently". A trader's worst enemy is lack of discipline. If you apply disciplined and rigid money management to your trades (and Forex Killer helps you do exactly that!) - you will beat this obstacle. And if, on top of that, you actually take some time to learn more about Forex Trading - you will undoubtedly become a very successful Forex Trader!

Summary 

The Verdict: Forex-Killer, yay or nay?

Forex-Killer IS:

    * An excellent product for beginner and intermediate forex traders;
    * Very easy to use;
    * Has phone support (on top of email);
    * A software with a proven track record of consistently generating profitable signals (some pairs and time-frames are more suitable than others)
    * Both, supported and continuously improved by the developer. All improvements are available to all customers at no additional cost
    * offering a 8-week money back guarantee to those who are not satisfied with results.

 

Forex-Killer IS NOT:

    * A fully automated trading robot that can do all the trading without any intervention from the user. If you want that try the Forex Autopilot System
    * A monthly subscription service where you have to pay a monthly fee for the signals. You pay the price of the Forex-Killer program once and you are buying software which you may run on your own computer, at any time, 100 times a day if you like, and analyze any currency pair and time frame and generate profitable trading signals
    * ...perfect. No trading software is. That's the nature of trading - sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. The idea is to win more often and to minimize losses. And Forex-Killer helps you do exactly that
    * a MLM, pyramid scheme, Ponzi scheme or some other type of scam. It is a real product, which will be very helpful to you on your path to becoming a successful forex trader. But you'll still have to walk that path yourself and no software can do it for you
    * A get-rich-quick scheme. If you sum up the monthly results published on the Forex Killer System web-site you will get an average of about 250 pips per month (3000 / 12 = 250):

    This is a very realistic number for an automated trading system (and a dream for many human traders). A number of subscription services on the net claim that they will deliver 500, 700, even 1000 pips per month or some other exorbitant number, and that in itself is a proof that these "systems" are scams aimed at "get-rich-quick" customers.

    Forex-Killer is solid software with realistic performance record and the above numbers are an indication that the web-site is indeed displaying true results from actual trades, rather than trying to fix the numbers and to entice prospective clients into buying the program by exploiting human greed and impatience!


Conclusion:


Despite some minor flaws, Forex-Killer is a great software, which if used correctly will deliver great results into your trading account.

The best feature of Forex-Killer, in my opinion, is that it provides you with a stress-free and motivating introduction to the world of Forex trading. It makes it easier for the newbie trader to jump in the action and get a taste of Forex trading, while at the same time reducing the risk of entering a losing trade. Once you make a couple of trades in your demo account, once you see that balance grow - you'll know it's doable! You will know that it is something that you will be able to do with real money, too. This is a home-based business which provides you with direct immediate feedback and instant gratification (as well as instant punishment if you don't follow the rules of the game!) and you will be very motivated to work harder and to educate yourself to achieve better results. And with the unconditional 8-week money back guarantee you really got nothing to lose!

Think about the opportunities that Forex Trading and Forex Killer in particular open before you: you can work a few hours a day, from any place on the face of the planet, all you need is a computer and an internet connection! This truly is an incredible opportunity and my advice to you is - approach it with the respect that it deserves. Spend some time to educate yourself about trading the Forex market and you WILL be successful!

"The best feature of the Forex-Killer System, in my opinion, is that it provides a stress-free and motivating introduction to the world of Forex trading. It makes it easier for the newbie or intermediate trader to jump in the action and get a taste of Forex trading, while at the same time shielding them from uncertainty and reducing the risk of placing a loser trade."

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Cheers, folks, and Happy Trading!

To your Success!

...oh, almost forgot - here's how to get a $10 discount on the price of the software:
Go to the web-site, look around, then... "walk away". That's right. Click your browser "Back" button or just try to close it or change to another page in the address bar. A window will pop-up offering you a discount of $10!

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wan

nice lens.. gain a lot from it. thanks,. :)

Posted October 10, 2008

The Stckman

Very no-holds barred, clear and focused Review - One of the best I've read in the last month of looking at Forex Killer unfo.

Thanks

Posted June 20, 2008

Redrose

Great lens. Very informative, pros and cons.

Posted May 25, 2008

4x4ever

4x4ever
good point bonyayad1, I guess when you spend a lot of time on details you forget about the big picture.

It's always nice when someone reminds you of that. I should really break this lens into two lenses or more, for example "Psychology of Trading" should be a lens on it's own, it doesn't belong here (except as a link).

... and for all those who also feel "lost" - We are discussing the Forex Killer Software and it's suitability for generating profitable Forex signals! :)

Posted May 10, 2008

bonyayad1

Nice Lens, however i find it a bit long to read, but maybe thats just because I like it short. At some point I forgot what point we were discussing about FOREX

Posted May 10, 2008

4x4ever

Thanks everyone for your nice comments. I apologize for not replying earlier - was too busy preparing and filing my 2007 taxes. :)

As always the universe is in balance, there's good things and bad things... Spring... Taxes... :)

Speaking of Taxes - on http://www.fxsoftwaresolutions.com in the download section you'll be able to find tax-filing tips specific to Canadian Forex traders, I suggest you check it out, as properly reporting your Forex gains may be a little tricky.
I think there's also a PDF there for American taxes as well...

Posted April 30, 2008

candymae

:) nice lens

Posted April 21, 2008

HeatherWood

Thank you, I have been investigating Forex Killer for some time now and this is the most comprehensive and honest online review that I have found so far!

Posted April 21, 2008

funwithtrains

Nice Lens! 5 stars and a favorite! Please visit my Marklin Trains lens.

Posted April 20, 2008

 
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