Michigan House Bill 4564

BRIAN KIRSCH wrote

family courts have to know there system is flawed.They just rather ignore the mess they have created and keep there money flowing at the expense of devoted responsible fathers and mothers who just want to be with there children. Family courts should be responsible to help the familes in which they have created instability.Step one is to pass HB4564.

Posted September 01, 2008

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Posted August 28, 2008

Debbie Deneumoustier wrote

I support the hb 4564 bill. Children have the right to BOTH PARENTS!! The saying *It takes a village* In that Village is a MoM & DaD. EQUAL PARENTING FOR ALL!!!

Posted August 18, 2008

james conkright wrote

i want to know all i can about hb4564. please email me @ crite25@yahoo.com

Im sick of crying every day

Posted July 07, 2008

Diane L. wrote

I support the house bill 4564. I think this should have passed a long time ago. My children had a dead beat for a dad, and I feel the men need these rights. so lets get this bill passed ASAP..

Posted May 20, 2008

Pamala wrote

I will try to make this quick I am a divorced mother of three I do not like my ex-husband, however my children LOVE him and he is a fit parent we have equal parenting time "pursuant to our mutual agreement" and have NEVER had an issue in 5 years when we went to the FOC the conciliator told us she wasnt sure the judge would sign our request because it didnt name one of us as the custodial parent WHAT? It did get signed but my current husband however now has temporary custody of his son because his mother gave him a black eye and the FOC is recommending she get full custody as long as she receives counseling (she already went through counseling for domestic violence) I can honestly say my own children are very well adjusted and are sweet well behaved children I know shared parenting is best. I AM NOT PROUD TO LIVE IN MICHIGAN. All the innocent children who lose out on their fathers or mothers is disgusting all for the mighty dollar.....Pass the damn bill!!!!!

Posted May 14, 2008

Pamala wrote

I will try to make this quick I am a divorced mother of three I do not like my ex-husband, however my children LOVE him and he is a fit parent we have equal parenting time "pursuant to our mutual agreement" and have NEVER had an issue in 5 years when we went to the FOC the conciliator told us she wasnt sure the judge would sign our request because it didnt name one of us as the custodial parent WHAT? It did get signed but my current husband however now has temporary custody of his son because his mother gave him a black eye and the FOC is recommending she get full custody as long as she receives counseling (she already went through counseling for domestic violence) I can honestly say my own children are very well adjusted and are sweet well behaved children I know shared parenting is best. I AM NOT PROUD TO LIVE IN MICHIGAN. All the innocent children who lose out on their fathers or mothers is disgusting all for the mighty dollar.....Pass the damn bill!!!!!

Posted May 14, 2008

danamado wrote...

I support Bill 4564!!

Posted May 14, 2008

tntalk wrote...

State laws are great and guaranteed by the Constitution. Unfortunately, federal law has taken control and authority over child support in violation of human and civil rights. It's called the Bradley Amendment.
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Posted February 23, 2008

thomasz wrote...

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Posted February 14, 2008

Anita wrote

I believe our children have a right to see both parents but when one parent refuses to allow the other parent time with the children is when the courts need to step in and take over. For which then they need to actually do the job they were hired to do instead of just seeing how long the child or children have been with on parent. The real question is does the courts have the best interest of our children in mind or do they see it as how fast can I get through this?

Posted February 04, 2008

Todd S. wrote

I support Michigan House Bill 4564. Each parent should have equal amount of time to share with their child. No court should be able to make that decision. The decision was just made because my wife did not want to dicuss parenting time or make a decision so the court did. How unfair when you have great fathers out there that want to spend as mush time with their children but can't.

Posted February 02, 2008

mike niles wrote

take away the federal funding and you take away the incentive behind the corruption ,then maybe michigan will balance a budget rather than hiring a DHS director with known ties to terrorism...

Posted December 31, 2007

Heather wrote

I support Michigan House Bill 4564~ As a non constodial mom for nine years. This should have been in place years ago.

Posted December 16, 2007

Mark Benson wrote

This bill should pass. I had joint custody for 9 years.she remarried and moved where our agreed upon custody would not work. They sued me for custody and won. I had to pay them my house payment of $964.00 mo.so that had to be sold. Oh yah she quit a $36000.00 yr. insurance job. thats just wrong.

Posted October 16, 2007

Jennifer wrote

My boyfriends children are in an abusive situation with her boyfriend. She has been in contempt four times for not taking the children to counseling appointments and gets a slap on the rist. He would be in jail if that happened. I totally support this bill. They are dads not sperm donors.

Posted October 16, 2007

Steve Koch wrote

I have sole custody only because my ex is UNFIT and was proven. And only because we both had full psy evals done. Mine was by choice, hers by court order. otherwise i am all for joint custody. 4day

Posted October 15, 2007

Linda wrote

My grandson has been in joint custody for 13 years. what a blessing for him. His parents were adult enough to know what was best and he is a well-adjusted, happy teenager who is loved dearly by two families and wouldn't have it any different. Every child should be able to have this type of life.

Posted October 15, 2007

Ben Brumitt wrote

CHILDREN'S BILL OF RIGHTS
Equal contact, consistent contact, continued care, continued guidance, continuing relationship, freedom to receive love, treated as important human beings

Sec 2 Family Pres

Posted October 15, 2007

MarkH wrote

Couldn't agree more. Grew up without a father myself. My mother (who is in her 70's ) finally admitted the mistake of denying visits and such. I've resented it for 40 yrs.
So, maybe Brenda Clark could clarify "best interest of the child" (I've raised 5, Maybe she could give me some pointers?)

Posted October 14, 2007

Leslie Angelocci wrote

In 2000, after a year of ugliness and violence my divorce was final. The Judge used his "discretioanry" privledges and gave sole leagal and physical custody of my only biological child to my husband...devestated is an understatement! I was never proved unfit, my child lost his mom and his innoncence

Posted October 07, 2007

Jeff wrote

It is too late for me and my kids. I am one to admit that I suffer from depression at times because of one of the most evil entities in our so called Government. My kids and I were cheated out of one of life's most critical adventures. Being Father

Posted September 28, 2007

scott kirk wrote

70% of all repeat violent offenders currently in our prison system not only grew up without a father in their familly, but their were probbably no adult males around at all!!
lets help curb this criminal/ chaos by helping return fathers to the familly!!

Posted September 17, 2007

Kevin Graven wrote

Lorain County Court in Ohio requires gal's and mediators to be attorneys so that these same corrupt attorneys can all get paid for representing clients AND by screwing them thru arbitration. My gal has talked to me less than two hours, but his bill is over $7,000. I work to pay these bloodsuckers.

Posted September 04, 2007

Brian Barron wrote

I was told, at my custody hearing, that I could not gain joint custody of my child unless I could prove that my child was being physically or mentally abused. If a child is being abused in any way at all, why would a parent settle for joint custody. I was lied to by the people I went to for help.

Posted August 24, 2007

Brian Reho wrote

When will the "family law industry" wake up and realize the harm they are doing to children? Probably when American citizens rise up and demand protection of their constitutional rights, and, governments are exposed in their "dirty little secret" that they make money by controlling a families pain.

Posted August 22, 2007

Vickie Clark wrote

This bill needs to pass for out kids. The courts wonder why kids run wild,join gangs,and get into so much trouble, but don't realize they are the blame when they take a parent away that needs and wants to be in childrens lives.These kids are acting out

Posted August 21, 2007

Kent White wrote

Stop Abusing my Children Macomb County FOC. I fear that if nothing is done that our next generation will be a disaster. I beg you Brenda clack please help bring the bill into vote for the sake of our children and there families.

Posted August 15, 2007

Rachael White wrote

Somehting must be done to look out for the childrens rights. When my children want to spend more time with me as the Joint -legal custodian yet I can't make it happen. I don't feel that Sole custody is the best intrest they need both of us.

Posted August 15, 2007

Penny Luytgaarden wrote

I support this bill and can attest to the importance of a child having a close relationship with both the father and mother. It is time for change...long overdue change for this to happen. Why does a father see his child 64 days a year and a woman the other 301? How is that fair to the children?

Posted August 15, 2007

Carrie Adams wrote

It takes a joint effort to maintain a successful life experience when rearing our children . They must be supported. The impressions of crooked law becomes a horrific view for any one to stare at . We look to support the vital rules of rearing our children as a joint effort, nothing less. Pass!

Posted August 08, 2007

Susan Matero wrote

Children need both parents. The sex of the parent should not be the deciding factor, regarding equal rights for parents.

Susan Matero
Ann arbor, MI 48105

Posted August 06, 2007

Ronald Byzewski wrote

Brenda Clack..a DISGRACE to the State and the Children.
A Fathers day without your child. What does the Macomb FOC do..NOTHING!! If I did that on Mothers day you can bet I would be in jail..Instead they say they will look into it.
Thank you so much MACOMB FOC

Posted July 31, 2007

Deborah Flint wrote

Whether married, divorced or non-married, children need a father and mother.
It is time for our laws to support families and we can begin by giving the children equal access to both parents.
Follow the money. That why the current laws were written. Not for the best interest of the children.

Posted July 29, 2007

KARI JURECKI wrote

Even the people that benefit from the current system need to look at the reality of the situation. chances are some day you will have a son or grandson that will have to go against the current system if it is not changed.

Posted July 25, 2007

Susan Fretwell wrote

Even though I live in corrupt Colorado, I support HB 4564. My husband and I are victims of CPS false allegations as well as parental alienation syndrome. My mother

Posted July 25, 2007

Nicegoogoo wrote...

The children and parents all deserve equal time.Children need both parents this is my opinion..
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Posted July 25, 2007

Sally Borghese wrote

Children require two fit parents in their lives. Without both parents, children cannot grow into strong, useful citizens of society. Therefore, our very existence as a state and nation is at stake.

Posted July 24, 2007

Steve McDonough wrote

I hope to see all of you in DC on August 18th!

Posted July 24, 2007

allysa wrote...

I support the Michigan House Bill 4564. Children deserves to be happy. They are the future!

Posted July 23, 2007

Larry Kerkman wrote

I support Bill 4564. It was a shock for me to realize that this is not the way it is now. We must save our children from the ugly court battles, that are going on now over the fight for custody. Equal shared parenting time will help eliminate the war between parents, and our children will benefit.

Posted July 22, 2007

caryv

One Million Non Custodial Parents (and added to daily) in the state of Michigan alone! The time has come for you my Govt. friends to STOP this Social Experiment gone bad! Time to end THAT Chapter Folks! Turn the page and start a chapter we won't be ashamed for our grandchildren to read. Yes!

Posted July 19, 2007

Stever wrote

I think it's about time our family laws ,and the system get with the real times. A very important update in the system is badly needed. MORE so for our children of tomorrow.

Also for the parent who becomes 'forced' to be a part tiem parent..

Posted July 18, 2007

Chris Coppens wrote

Children need both "Fit" parents in thier lives to grow up normal. It takes a family to raise a child, both parents, both grand parents. My son needs me in his life to teach him to be a man. The studies don't lie, children who don't have a father in thier life end up in trouble.

Posted July 18, 2007

caryv

One Million Non Custodial Parents (and added to daily) in the state of Michigan alone! The time has come for you my Govt. friends to STOP this Social Experiment gone bad! Time to end THAT Chapter Folks! Turn the page and start a chapter we won't be ashamed for our grandchildren to read. Yes!

Posted July 18, 2007

Melissa R. wrote

My fiance's ex lives one minute from our home..She said it will be a cold day in hell before she gives up child support so he can have split custody..If this bill passes that cold day will come sooner than she thought!!!

Posted July 16, 2007

Jason English wrote

I support HB 4564! I don't want to take my child away from her mother. I just want to have an equal relationship with my baby. My daughter has done nothing wrong. Yet, the courts allow this tragedy to keep continuing on.

Posted July 05, 2007

Tammy wrote

It takes two people to bring a child on this earth so why wouldn't it take two people to raise that child. Both parents play important roles in that childs life, just because parents can not work out thier differences does not mean the children should have to suffer.

Posted July 05, 2007

LindaJM wrote...

I'm the owner of the fightcps.com website and just built a lens for my site here at Squidoo. I want to let you know that I support the rights of both parents to be with their children. Good luck in your work to help children be with their parents.

Posted July 05, 2007

JOE JURECKI wrote

The children and parents all deserve equal time. The amount of money someone makes does not make them a good or bad parent. Money will come and go but the time a child misses with a parent can never be replaced.

Posted July 03, 2007

darricksf

I am proud to be working along side with such great people. Spreading the message of equal rights is a brave and noble task so please keep it up.

Posted June 28, 2007

Robb D MacKenzie wrote

House Bill 4564. This is a fair bill for both biological parents. Six to eight days a month my opinion is child abuse. This bill should have been passed along time ago. Because this is in the best interest of the child. Not removing one parent from the child's life. Section 4D of the Social Security act. You are paying and don't even realize. Make a difference get involved.

Posted June 21, 2007

brian kleiman wrote

To think that detroit new had a survy done in 2004 that showed michigan wanted a shared parenting bill at a vote of 86.5 in favor to 13.5 not in favor and michigan still has done nothing to change is rediculouse,we have only one person to blame at the moment and that is brenda clack.

Posted June 21, 2007

Don Delaney wrote

Follow the money!!

Posted June 21, 2007

Scherry Shabazz wrote

I support Michigan House Bill 4564. Totally because CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS every day to become productive, healthy, happy human beings. They are our future and right now they are unhappy, confused, and having a major identity crisis that only both parents can solve.

Posted June 21, 2007

Michael T. Ross, MD wrote

Michigan invests in a single parent family model for federal money even though this means destruction of our children and adults as well as our economy and culture. Rep. Brenda Clack has an opportunity to become an American hero and stateswoman by breaking this model with introduction of HB 4564.

Posted June 20, 2007

laryholland wrote...

I have to agree with Brian Downs that Family Courts are rewarded by the Federal Government through Title IV funding. I support HB4564 fully, and believe that resistance will only come from those that directly benefit from Title IV funding. To learn more visit http://www.nationwideblueprint.com .

Posted June 20, 2007

Stephanie Forton wrote

I support House Bill 4564. A child needs both parents in their life. Changing the child's name per each new step father is not good for the child nor is only being allowed to see the father if the father can give enough money. Michigan shouldn't deny a child's right to have both parents.

Posted June 20, 2007

Mody Botros wrote

It's about time... The great United State of America with all the meanings of freedom and equality, somehow we managed to close our eyes on what's going on in our family court system. The only time in my life I wished I wasn't american. Do we have it in us to change?? back to basics??

Posted June 20, 2007

Brian Downs wrote

This issue is far more important than Michigan's budget they we always hear about. The crisis in the family courts must be fixed immediately. HB 4564 makes joint custody a presumption unless one parent is unfit. All reputable studies prove this is the best for children. Pass HB 4564 now!!!

Posted June 20, 2007

chris paris wrote

i support the hb 4564 bill.and so should you,this bill will benefit families everywhere.how could you not want that to happen.the state of michigan only has financial interest and the ones opposing this bill are trying to protect their financial gains.the constitution protects equal rights!!!!!

Posted June 19, 2007

Kelly Cool wrote

As a divorced parent of two wonderful children, I support the bill to allow equal parenting. Children need both parents to balance and enrich their lives. Stop the PAS parents from causing so much harm and help the children have both full time parents. Children are our future! This is a start!

Posted June 15, 2007

geribrown wrote...

I support the HB 4564 I am a single mother and i believe that as long as my daughter is happy having both her father and i a part of her everyday life then that is what is in her best interest. Just like every other child out there, they want a need both parents and it is thair right to have both.

Posted June 12, 2007

Michael Vickory wrote

I was involved as a father until the State and Ingham County stepped in and mandated that I can only be a "visitor" to my child. If HB4564 had been in place when my divorce was finalized I would be able to give a positive influence to my 2 year old son.

Posted June 10, 2007

TERRENCE S M POPP wrote

If you think it cant happen to you, or if you have the mind set it does not apply to me then you are dead wrong. The system as it stands now is bias and wrong. How the court can justify going from living with your children everyday to 96 hours a month is criminal. It needs to change Macomb MI

Posted June 07, 2007

Cory Mackwood wrote

Dear State Legislators: You represent Michigan residents, not 3rd parties that have their own agenda. Listen to 85% of the constituents you represent. Look across your own dinner table and ask yourself if YOU deserve equal time with your own children so long you are fit? Then demand HB4564 to come to a FULL VOTE.

Posted June 07, 2007

Karin Karlsson wrote

Children need both their parents involved in their lives. This state experiment of cutting out one parent and leaving the other with all the responsibilities is too much and immoral. The courts and family system are breaking families to make a profit off the misery of our children. www.crispe.org

Posted June 07, 2007

Carol Rhodes wrote

The FOC, attorneys, judges

Posted June 07, 2007

Robert James Brown wrote

It's HIGH TIME to put the Friend Of The Court out of Business, because the Friend Of The Court CAUSES more Problems than they actually solve! I have had over 200 visits DENIED and what was done to make this right? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! She got letters saying "Don't let this happen again!" What BULL!

Posted June 06, 2007

Terry Wanston wrote

I support Michigan House Bill 4564. All of Michigan's children deserve to be secure in the love of Both Parents and in their right Not to be snatched from a loving home.

Posted June 05, 2007

David Church wrote

I, as well as my whole extended family, support HB 4564 in Michigan. It is time that the law and the courts act in the best interest of a child instead of the their best finacial interest.

Posted June 05, 2007

Elaine Pedersen wrote

It's so sad1 A child's right to have equal love and nurturing from both fit parents can be taken away through divorce. Imagine their confusion and loneliness. Their world is permanently changed through no fault of their own. I support this bill.

Posted June 04, 2007

Tom Gallen wrote

The gravy train is full and the state and custodial mothers are making too much money, the way it is, and they will NEVER allow it to change. By the way, the attorney general is the conductor on this gravy train and destroying fathers and families is apparently his idea of a good time. Good Luck

Posted June 04, 2007

Evan Schulz wrote

I support HOUSE BILL 4564!

Posted June 04, 2007

Evan Schulz wrote

I support HOUSE BILL 4564!

Posted June 04, 2007

Sharon Z wrote

It's too late for my husband and I. If something like HB4564 existed in 1992 then we would still have a relationship with my step-daughter. Now we are ALL victoms of Parential Alienation due to her mother's selfishness. WE NEED TO STOP BREEDING GENERATIONS OF DYSFUNCTIONAL CHILDREN!

Posted June 04, 2007

Robert Kerr wrote

Get the stats from the State courts and the Health Department, Every FOC office violates Prop 2 every day.

Posted June 04, 2007

Steven Hampton wrote

I am but one of thousands of frustrated fathers who is being taken to the cleaners and is being deprived of my daughters. In time the courts will see the injustices that are being done to fathers all across the country. For now, show your support and let's get things changed in Michigan.

Posted June 04, 2007

Dan La Fountain wrote

Yes, I support HB 4564. How could it not be right to support equality?

Posted May 29, 2007

Laura Smith wrote

I Support Michigan House Bill 4564. I am a single mother who supports both parents having equal influence in their children's lives-meaning equal time with their children.

Posted May 29, 2007

Brian Kleiman wrote

I support hb4564 .I remeber our pledge of alegence.do non supporters of this bill forget the constitution and the last phraze? I'll remind you ( with liberty and justice for all ) Ring any bells? this includes children riped away from thier dads,aboused by the state and thier mothers,forced drugs.

Posted May 23, 2007

Randall Scotti wrote

Thank you for all the work you are doing on behalf of non-custodial parents. It's time for the Court to rule according to consistent law rather than self-contradictiry law. It's time for the legislature to re-write law consistent with constitutional rights already secured in law.

Posted May 23, 2007

Chester Merda,sr. wrote

No matter how wonderful and great mothers are,they lack the certain qualities that only a father can give his children. For the court to order the father to see his children only 48 hours out of a two or three week period is not enough in the best interest of the children.

Posted May 23, 2007

darricksf

Let's keep building the amount of e-exposure so that we flood the net with information. We need you to actually support this movement not just cheer from the back row.

Posted May 22, 2007

Marilyn Price wrote

Children need both parents, period. Grandparents need their grandchildren in their lives. All this is just common sense, so why is this even up for discussion ? My grandchildren cherish the time spent with me and the family stories, traditions, and just plain family togetherness.

Posted May 21, 2007

Chris Biernat wrote

I support HOUSE BILL 4564!

Posted May 21, 2007

robert becker wrote

children deserve both parents! follow the money! the greedy government(bastards) force us from our children for the money!

Posted May 21, 2007

Betty Cronberg wrote

Every child desparately needs to feel the love and guidance that BOTH parents can provide, throughout their childhood, as well as the rest of their lives. The stability, security and harmony influenced by a healthy relationship with both Mom AND Dad is irreplaceable. Kids need both their parents.

Posted May 20, 2007

Brian Downs wrote

The only reason that makes sense for the bias in the family court system is the money trail (i.e. Federal funding under Social Security Title IV). The court system must give sole custody to one parent(usually the mother) to receive federal funds. This is NOT in the best interest of the children.

Posted May 20, 2007

June Wright wrote

I was one of those mothers thatlet the father see the children only what was shown in court papers.Now that I am 65 and my children are adults.I learned love is never wrong from both parents I was selfish for denying them equal time, my sons missed out because of me now its too late,their dad died.

Posted May 19, 2007

Chet Merda wrote

Why does a Stepfather who doesn't support the children get to spend more time with them than their own father?
If parenting time were equal to fit parents then there would be a huge reduction in Amber alerts. Just think the time, effort, and tax money that could be saved in the judicial process a

Posted May 19, 2007