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Learning To Live With ME/CFS - My Experience So Far

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Welcome To My ME/CFS Lens

 

 In December 2005 I suddenly developed a neuorological condition within days of having a flu jab. I was left with an altered sensation down the right side of my face, speech problems and problems with balance. Ever since then my conditon has worsened, and I now have difficulty walking, my right foot drops so that my toes drag on the ground, and my legs will only move slowly. I also get myoclonic jerks which cause the whole of my upper body to jerk upwards rather like I have been startled. I have no control over these movements.

 This lens discusses the difficulty that I encountered in getting a diagnosis and points to further information about my condition. I hope that this lens will be of benefit to other people who are suffering in a similar way.

Neurological Condition? What Neurological Condition? 

The Difficulty In Getting Diagnosed

I don't know if you are like me, but the first thing that I usually do when I am ill (if the illness persists) is to visit my GP. I tend to expect them to know what is wrong with me,or if not to know someone who does! I, like many people had great faith in medical science. My faith in it has now been altered slightly.

As I said in my intro, I started to experience strange neurological symptoms within days of having a flu jab. At first I thought that the dizziness that I experienced was either a reaction to the flu jab(I was told that you can get mild flu-like symptoms with it) or that it was the result of the new blood pressure tablets that I was given when I had my flu jab, the nurse had taken my blood pressure when I had my jab and found it to be very high so the doctor prescribed a different drug. So I put up with it for about a week.

After a week the symptoms hadn't subsided so I went back to my GP. He changed the blood pressure tablets, signed me off work and told me to come back if there was no improvement. I continued to get worse. The right side of my face felt numb, my speech was hessitant, I found it hard to concentrate, got tired very quickly, and felt dizzy if I stood up. So I returned to my GP.

This time I saw a locum. She gave me a thorough examination and referred me to a neurologist. I think that she thought i had had a mini stroke due to my history of high blod pressure!

I saw the neurologist about 2 weeks later. He did all of the usually neurological tests and said that he could find nothing wrong with me and put it down to stress! He basically said that I should return to work.

I had tried return to work not long before seeing the neurologist. I lasted a couple of hours. My work involved caring for profoundly disabled young people and was quite physically demanding. I struggled for a couple of hours, but my dizziness and concentration got worse, and I was feeling disorientated. Returning to work was not an option as I would have put those whom I was caring for at risk. So I returned once more to my GP.

Another Neurologist, Another Set Of Tests! 

Getting A Second Opinion

This time I saw another locum. He could see that I was still not right and decided that I should be refered to another neurologist for a second opinion.

I had to wait a couple of months this time. The NHS is great and I am so glad I live in a country that has free healthcare, but sometimes waiting can be very frustrating particularly when you have a condition no one seems to be able to diagnose!

My condition continued to deteriorate during this time. I found walking increasingly difficult. I found walking difficult fairly early on into my illness. At first it was due to feeling dizzy and getting tired easily, but now it was something more.

At this time I was trying to walk every day and would walk a one mile circular route very slowly. Having worked with disabled people, I knew the importance of not just giving up. If you stop using an ability the chances are that you will loose it! I was determined not to become deconditioned. My daily walk became increasingly difficult. My right leg was not moving in the way that it should, and became particularly bothersome towards the end of my walk.

By the time I saw my second neurologist I was struggling to walk very far, although I did have the odd day when my walking ws not as bad. This neurologist was much more thorough. He did the usual neurological examination, took blood tests and sent me for a MRI Scan, which I had about a month later.

I recieved a letter from the neurologist in April 2006 to say that the MRI was clear and a follow up appointment was booked for July!

My condition continued to deteriorate.

I Just Can't Stop Moving! 

When Your Body Moves On It's Own Accord

It was the week before May bank holiday weekend that it started. At first it was happening occasionaly. My head and upper boy would suddeny fly up as if I had been startled. The sensation is a bit like having the hiccups, only involving the whole of your body. I later found out that the medical term for this is myoclonus. I didn't take much notice of it at first. Then on the Saturday it started bigtime!

I sat down to watch tv and my head flew back and hit the back of the chair with great force. This kept on happening. At one time I was having 2 a minute. My neck was starting to hurt because of the force of the movement. When I stood up they stopped, but as soon as I sat down to try and relax they would start again. If I lay down my whole body would convulse.

For 2 days I put up with it. It was a weekend, and a bank holiday weekend at that! So I knew the doctors surgery wouldn't be open until tuesday. By Monday I had enough and called the out of hours doctor. He woudn't come out to me but prescribed diazepam. This eased it but didn't stop it completely.
I have had this symptom ever since. Sometimes it is worse than others. It is always worse when I relax. Trying to sleep at night can be really difficult as I jump about so much. In recent months I have developed new variation on this symptom. My muscles contract, and if I am laying on my back I sit up! This is very disconcerting especially when I am just falling asleep! If I lay on my side, my head flies forward and my knees come up towards my chest.

These aren't the only involuntary movements I get. The muscles on my arms and legs twitch, I can some times see them moving live waves under my skin. My fingers and toes sometimes twitch and move on their own. Having a body that moves on it's own can be amusing, but generally it is extremely uncomfortable.

Still No Answers - Left In Limbo 

If The Experts Don't know, Search The Net!

By the time I went for my follow up with my second neurologist I was walking with a stick. My mobility had worsened and I was having fewer good days when my symptoms were bearable. I was hoping that the neurologist might be able to shed some light on my illness, or at least order some different tests. My hopes were soon dashed.

The neurologist saw that I was struggling to walk and asked how I was doing. I told him about my increased symptoms, particularly about the myoclonic jerks. He examined me again. I had a couple of myoclonic jerks while he examined me. After the exmination he said that my MRI scan was clear, therefore there was nothing he could find wrong with me. He said that I should go back to work! I mentioned the possbility of it being M.E. but he said that he knew nothing about it. That was the end of the consultation, and I was discharged from his care.

I was so furious that I tried the next day to drive the 20 miles to work. This wasn't a good idea, but it proved a point. My concentration was going during the last 5 miles of my journey, and when I got there I could hardly walk. Going back to work was still not an option.

I went back to see my GP, this time he didn't know where to send me. I mentioned to him the possibility of it being ME, but he wasn't sure that my symptoms matched. He suggested that I tried to find someone who he could send me to.

I had been doing some research on the internet to try to find an answer to my condition. This is how I came up with ME/CFS(Myalgic Encephaloyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome). But my symptoms also pointed to the possibilty of me having MS (Multiple Sclerosis). So I started to find out all that I could about both conditions.

I found out that their symptoms can be alike. I joined an MS forum to discuss my experiences and found many who like myself were struggling with strange neurological symptoms and who could not get a diagnosis. One woman had been ill for 6 years and still didn't know what was causing it! Others who had MS, had taken years to get a diagnosis, having had normal reflex tests, normal MRI scans and normal lumbar puncture results at the begining of their illness. MS is difficult to diagnose and depends on the skill of the doctor. It can also take a while for physical signs to show up in a way that they can be detected.

By the end of my research I was still uncertain about the cause of my symptoms. Was it MS or was it ME?

My Story On Video 

Here is a collection of videos that I made to share my story so far. More will be added later

M.E. and me part 1

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M.E. And Me Part 2

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Disappointments

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M.E. And Me Part 3

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Neurologist Number 3...The End Of The Road

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M.E.Or Not?

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Hope Tempered By Disappointment

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Why Am I Doing This?

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I Don't Have ME!

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Book's On ME/CFS That I Have Found Helpful 

Trying to find good information on ME/CFS is not easy. This is due to the dispute that there is in the medical profession as to whether ME/CFS is a real physical condition or whether it is psychological. These books discuss theses issues and shows true M.E. is a real physical illness.

The Clinical and Scientific Basis of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis--Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

The Clinical and Scientific Basis of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis--Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

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Osler's Web: Inside the Labyrinth of the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic by Hillary Johnson

Osler's Web: Inside the Labyrinth of the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic by Hillary Johnson

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Stricken: Voices from the Hidden Epidemic of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

Stricken: Voices from the Hidden Epidemic of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

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Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Treatment: A Treatment Guide (Quality Medical Home Health Library) by Erica F. Verrillo

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Treatment: A Treatment Guide (Quality Medical Home Health Library) by Erica F. Verrillo

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In the Shadow of Memory (American Lives) by Floyd Skloot

In the Shadow of Memory (American Lives) by Floyd Skloot

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ME/CFS Or MS? Still Not Sure. Enter Neurologist Number Three! 

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I found a neurologist on the internet and emailed him. I told him about my symptoms and asked if it would be worth me going to him for a private consultation. He said that looking at my symptoms, and the fact the my MRI had shown nothing, he thought that it would be a waste of time me seeing him. He thought that the most likely cause was ME/CFS

Now, you may have thought that having had a clear MRI, and the words of this consultant would have put my suspicion of having MS to rest. But it didn't. I had read on some leading MS websites that a clear MRI does not rule out the possiblility of a diagnosis of MS. There are other tests that should also be done to rule it in or out.

So I returned to my GP. He contacted the local Primary Care Trust and found the name of another neurologist located in a neighbouring Trust. I saw this neurologist in October 2006.

The interesting thing about seeing this neurologist was that he saw me 'blind'; he didn't have any of my notes. So he had to start from scratch with my diagnosis. He did a thorough neurological exmination, and said that he was going to admit me into hospital for two days of tests. He warned me that he still might not be able to give me a diagnosis even after the tests, as there is still much that neurologists don't know. This was refreshing in itself; a doctor who was prepared to admit that medical science doesn't know everything. Fortunately he is based at a specialist neurological unit and sees many cases where an explanation isn't easy to find.

In january 2007 I was admitted into hospital for two days of tests. At last someone was taking me seriously and was leaving no know stone unturned. I had an MRI of my brain and spinal cord, an EEG, a lumbar puncture, various blood tests, a consultation with a neur-psychologist and a chest xray.

Six weeks later they all came back clear. I was contacted by the neurologists collegue who told me that in his opinion I probably had M.E., as my symptoms were consistant with this. Fortunately he was well enough informed to be aware of the physical nature of ME/CFS

So this is where I am today. I finally have a diagnosis. There is nothing that can be done in terms of treatment for people with ME/CFS except to teach them how to manage their symptoms. other than that it is a matter of letting the disease run its course. The prognosis isn't good, as it is estimated that only 20% of people fully recover. 25% go on to develop complete disability.

Conclusion 

The Need For More Research

ME/CFS is an illness that affects the lives of hundreds of thousands of people worldwide. Many of whom have their lives totaly ruined. Some are confined to bed most of the time other have to use a wheelchair to get around. Most lose their jobs and never get back to full-time employment.

Some research is being done into the physical causes of th disease, but the research is patchy and is affected by the lack of government funding. This is in spite of the fact that this illness is costing governments millions of pound each year in benefits and lost tax revenues.

I have list some links to useful websites below. Thank you fortaking thetime to read this lens.

ME Or Not? 

An Update

After I saw my third neurologist who insisted that I have ME, I once again searched the internet to find out more. I cam accross a website of a doctor in North America that specializes in ME. I emailed him to ask if he knew of anyone in the UK who used his diagnostic methods. I also told him my symptoms. He wrote back and said that he didn't think that I have ME. He also said that he would be in the UK in 10 days time and that he would see me

I saw him in late April 2007. I got to talk to him for an hour, in the UK you are lucky if you get 20 minutes to see a consultant! He was unable to examine me as he isn't lisenced to practice medicine in the UK, but he asked me many questions about my codition and medical history. He thought that my movement disorder is dystonia. He also thought that the flu vaccination that I had hours before becoming ill may be significant. Apparently production at the factory of one major supplier of flu vaccine was shut down in 2005 when bacterial contamintion was found.

He has agreed to take on my case and has asked to see copies of all of the tests. So, the story continues. I may not have ME after all. One thing is for sure, I now have a top ME specialist on my side.

Now I Get Sound Effects! 

Over the past couple of weeks an new variation on an old theme has developed. I now get sound effects with some of my involuntary movements.This is a record of this wonderful new symptom!

Now I Get Sound Effects

Over the past couple of weeks an new variation on an old theme has developed. I now get sound effects with some of my involuntary movements.This is a record of this wonderful new symptom!

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Links To Useful ME/CFS Websites 

Find Out More

Here is a collection of links to some of the best ME/CFS websites.Plese e free to add any others that you have found helpful.

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http://www.ahummingbirdsguide.com/

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Nightingale - Home

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CFIDS, M.E., and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Information Index

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The ME Association

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The 25% M.E. Group Web Site: The only UK registered charity dedicated to the needs of severe M.E. sufferers and their careres.

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Foggy Friends Where ME/CFS Sufferers Unite - Myalgic Encephalopathy - Chronic Fatigue Syndrome - Post Viral Fatigue Syndrome - Chronic Fatigue Immune Dysfunction Syndrome - Myalgic Encephalomyelitis

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A Severe ME Sufferers Diary 

Making The Invisible Visible

Greg is a full-time carer to his wife Linda who is a sufferer of servere M.E. This is their moving 14 day diary of what life is like for those who are serverely affected.

Caring for someone with severe ME/CFS

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Severe ME Carers Diary Day Two

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Caring for someone with severe ME Day 3 : Isolation

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Caring for someone with severe ME Day 3 : Isolation

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Carers Diary day 5 : transformation

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carers diary day 6 - how to survive

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Severe ME Carers Diary : day 7

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Day 8 -Love and Politics part (1)

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Carers diary day 9 : love and politics (2)

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Carers Diary day 10. From the inside to the out

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Carers diary day 11- Not Nice !

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Carers Diary day 12 - The NICE Report (1)

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Carers Diary day 14 Do you want to really know ?

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A video response to NICE by Linda Crowhurst

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News from Invest In M.E. 

The british government have invested nothing in the bio-medical research of ME. Invest In ME is a charitable organisation who raise money for bio-medical research.

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Update February 2008 

There have been a number of things happen since I first made this lens. My condition appears to have worsened and my symptoms have increased in number and in intensity. I recently spent 5 days in the National Hospital For Neurology And Neuro-Surgery in London. This is supposed to be a world class neurological hospital, but although nursing staff were fantastic, the neurologists were on the whole rude and arrogant.

I saw the registrar when I arrived and it soon became obvious they had already decided that my condition is all in my head! He could see that I was having problems with speaking, and I told him that I have memory problems. He made no allowances for this and kept on asking why I wasn't working. He fired one question at me after another and made no allowance for the fact that I was having problems answering him. He phoned my wife and asked if I 'act out my dreams' or 'if I act strangely'! All of this made me anxious, increased my symptoms and confirmed their psychogenic diagnosis!

My consultant said that I had seen three other neurologists and should have just accepted their opinion ( he knows them and they are good men) even though my condition is deteriorating! In the 5 days that I was there all they did was a few blood tests and a lumbar Puncture. I saw two professors of neurology for a total of less than 20 minutes! Both consultations took place on the ward without any real privacy, and my gait (walk) was examined by me having to walk the length of the ward in front of all the other patients.

I ended up being told that my condition is a psychogenic movement disorder! The following videos are about my treatment there and how my symptoms have progressed. For more information about the fallacious diagnosis of hysteria, pschogenic and conversion disorder, read Richard Webster's excellent article

Back From My Hospital Admission

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They were right! It is all in my head!

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The Clapped out Old Git - Problems, Problems,More Problems!

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Reader Feedback 

Your Chance To have Your Say

I am always interested in the comments and experiences of my readers. Don't be shy - leave a comment!

Pamela

Found this after having found you on myspace I am becoming a regular pest! Sorry for that just thirsty for info and support. I never connected it before but I have only had one flu shot before and it was soon after that I started my symptoms. I remember my first symptoms being within a month or there abouts. I had other unexplained problems before this but the myclonus started showing up around then. -
Pamela

Posted July 20, 2008

Cindy_Moynat

Very interesting lens. I'm sorry about your condition.Please don't give up. Keep your moral up and your "inner you" can realize miracle ,despite all doctors and medicines!
I have a friend suffering from a painful disease an
I know how difficult can be to deal with.
Her illness is called "Spasmodic Torticollis " and I have a lens talking about her condition.
God Bless you
Cindy

Posted May 11, 2008

Julie C

Great page! Please check out my lens on dealing with CFS (among other things) at http://www.squidoo.com/jcavese.

Posted December 24, 2007

Sue

SSRI Paroxetine triggered my ME/cfs.

Posted December 04, 2007

rockycha

Great Site! It's always comforting somehow to at least feel like I'm not alone in this thing. I too suffer from CFS/ME and after my flu shot I was placed in ICU that same day. I was debilitated all over again. I'm journaling my current progress too. http://rockycha.wordpress.com

Posted October 03, 2007

 
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Hi! My Name is Paul Winter. I am 47 years old and live in the UK. I used to work in a residential home for children with profound physical and learning disabilities, but I developed a strange neurological condition in December 2005. I am in the process of writing a lens about this. You can find out more by visiting my vlog.


 I have a number of interests. I play the guitar reasonably well, enjoy reading, spending time with my family, discussing current affairs, surfing the net, cooking, and have a keen interest in nature. I have a few of websites kaazoomsdeals.net , TheCooksCupboard.co.uk and TheInfoFile.Com


 I am a christian and a member of a house church that meets in our home, This is another subject that I will be producing a lens on at a later date.

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