McNab Dogs: California's Stockdog

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McNab dogs are not well documented but seem to be better known than I would have suspected. Every day I find dozens of searches on the breed name. McNabs were developed in California especially designed to deal with the hot weather, burs and untamed stock. This lens is devoted to collecting information on the McNab dog.

 PLEASE! do not buy any dogs advertised via Google.  Good breeders don't produce enough dogs for that advertising to pay!

McNab Dogs - What are they? 

Many tales, and sometimes no tails.

Since late 1999 I have been exploring the McNab dog and I have heard many tales of its development and origin. What fascinates me is the number of people I've met who claim to know someone in "The McNab" family and are convinced they know all about the breed.

One old guy kept saying how he knew "the old man" and how the dogs were crossed with coyote and similar nonsense. He was always quite definite about the McNabs he says he grew up with. Finally I got tired of it and asked "which McNab"? Because by this time I had done enough reading to know that there were at least two lines. This brought him to a sputtering stop with "Well, you know, THAT McNab" Uh huh. So I said, well OK, what was his wife's name. Um um um

Another guy liked to tell me about how he grew up "with the McNab family." He told me that the McNab had Rhodesian Ridgeback mixed in. I've seen no evidence whatever to support that, although the breed history of the Ridgeback suggests introduction of collie type dogs so the other way around is possible.

Based on conformation and behavior I think that the McNab, Border Collie and Kelpie shared the same ancestors, but developed separately. A recent genetics study seems to support the idea that the McNab is not just a smooth coated border collie.

The study followed the genetic mutation responsible for Ivermectin sensitivity. The sensitivity was found in the Australian Shepherd, Collie, English Shepherd, Longhaired Whippet, McNab, Old English Sheepdog, Shetland Sheepdog, and Silken Windhound. It was not found in any significance in either the Kelpie or the Border Collie.

The sources that suggest that dogs of the Basque shepherds were included in the mix are consistent with this genetics study. The Australian shepherd is thought to have originated from the Basque shepherd dogs, and that breed is one of those sharing ivermectin sensitivity. Given that there are absolutely no reports of merle in the McNab, however, it is likely that the shared ancestry split off before the introduction of that characteristic.

Sometimes you will see a McNab with a docked tail. This has nothing to do with breed standard (there is no breed standard), but a practice common among some cattlemen. They believe the tail is at risk for being stepped on by cattle. I'll just leave you to ponder on that one.
Part of the original McNab ranch is now a winery.

McNab history and resources 

The Ancestral Relationships of British Herding Dogs
You want some well researched information on the origin of herding breeds, including the McNab? This is probably as good as it gets on the web.
The McNab Dog
The McNab Dog
by Donna Seigmund and Alvina Butti

This site is the most commonly referenced of the McNab sites.
Recollections about McNab Dogs
This account of the McNab is the most consistent with what I see in the dogs and with fitting the pieces together. It might be somewhat disappointing to those who want more of a purebred history. The truth is that stockmen have never been as concerned about actual pedigree as they have about results. And a desire for good work now often trumps any thought of theoretical scientific breeding plans.
Herding on the Web - Herding dogs, clubs, breeds
What McNab site could possibly be complete without links to that activity that would be the passion of every McNab - herding. If you want to herd with your dog you probably can find a place to do it, even if you live in a city.
McNab History
McNabs, McNab History, McNabs in California
This link adds a little more depth to the history of the McNab
McNabs - an alternate view of their history
This author takes issue with the more popular histories of the McNab. I think the issue is more in the labels than in the genetics. When is a breed a breed?
The Collie in Mendocino
The Collie in Mendocino
by Lulu McNab (from Overland Monthly magazine, May 1894)
This article is often referenced by other sources describing the origin of the McNab. It is more about the dogs, than about the breed. It gives you a picture of what the dogs are like more so that some new insight into the pedigree.
Yahoo group of McNab dog fans
There is a place where you can get personal and individual information on the McNab dog breed from current owners who are ranchers, dog sports enthusiasts and McNab dog breeders.

McNab Dog Fun Stuff 

McNab related t-shirts, mugs, sweats and more

Wearing your McNab dog sweatshirt can lead to questions, which means you get to talk about your great dog
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McNab Friends 

Chatty and friendly sites sharing McNab stories and pictures

A Puppy From Rescue
I got introduced to McNabs by accident. I thought I was getting a rescued border collie puppy. Once I started herding with him I was corrected. Tsuki was even featured on a magazine as a representative McNab. McNabs vary a lot though, so don't be too surprised if the one you see looks different.
Tippy's Dogster site
Is Tippy a McNab? possibly. Sure is cute anyway.

McNabs on YouTube 

Watch McNabs in Action

Tsuki herds like a typical McNab. He doesn't herd at all like a Border Collie. Notice that his head is held high more of the time. He never lowers his head and "stares" at the sheep. That is known as "giving eye". Not all Border Collies use "eye" to control the stock, but they typically move differently and it is more natural for them to swing out wide from the sheep.

McNab Herding (with cat)

It looks like the sheep will just follow the shepherd but really they stay with her because of dog. And what is that cat doing there?

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Gwen - a red McNab 

Rescue from the roadside

Gwen is a McNab found on the side of a highway in Oregon. She is very protective of her house, car, cats, person, etc. just like the accounts of McNabs say. She is a copper color with white.
Gwen is about 5 years old. She has her flyball championship and enjoys tracking, competing in agility and hiking with her family. She also has received her Canine Good Citizen award from the AKC, a real achievement for a rescue dog who does not like strangers to touch her at all. She has had experience herding cattle and sheep, though she does not live in a place where there is ready access to livestock.

Get dogs only from responsible breeders - or rescue 

Does it bother you that in the United States we kill millions of dogs a year? You can't change it by yourself but you can choose not to contribute to the problem. Don't encourage careless breeding by rewarding breeders who don't care what happens to their dogs after they are sold.

PLEASE! do not buy any dogs advertised via Google. Good breeders don't produce enough dogs for that advertising to pay!

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where to get a great dog, without adding to the problem.

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My McNab dog (probably mix) introduced me to the world of herding.  The activity has helped broaden my appreciation for my dogs as dogs.

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