Obama's Health Care Plan ~ A Poll

1 - I can do better 2 - Jury's out 3 - Pretty darn good 4 - Splendiferous 5 - Awesometastic by 17 people | Log in to rate

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The purpose of this lens is to allow you an opportunity to participate in a non-partisan poll about Obama's proposed Health Care Plan for America. I want to get your opinions, not give mine. I would even like to hear from friends from other countries who already have government health care. Your experiences could help decide America's future.

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These are only a few of the issues addressed in the extensive Health Care Proposal.

The site used to obtain information for this poll definitely has a bias which I do not necessarily embrace. I wanted to give you enough information to know that there are very real issues being proposed and included in the Health Care Plan and I needed a source that had it spelled out in layman's terms.

I tried to remove any reflection of opinion. Again. let me state: I do not want this lens to reflect my opinion.

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Higher Taxes ~ Are You Willing? 

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Higher Taxes ~ How Much 

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Health Care Rationed 

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Government Committee Will Decide Your Care 

Sec. 123, Pg. 30

States that there will be a Government Committee that will decide what treatments and benefits you get.

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Access to Your Bank Accounts 

Sec. 163, Pg. 59, Lines 21-24

States that the Government will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer.

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Medicaid 

Sec. 205, Pg. 102, Lines 12-18

Medicaid-eligible individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid.

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Non US Citizens in the United States 

Section 152, pg 50-51

Health Care will Be Provided to ALL NON US Citizens

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Doctors 

Sec. 225, Pg. 127, Lines 1-16

"The Secretary shall provide for the annual participation of physicians under the public health insurance option, for which payment may be made for services furnished during the year."

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Additional Taxes 

Sec. 401.59B, Pg. 167, Lines 18-23

ANY individual who does not have acceptable care, according to government, will be taxed 2.5% of income.

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Who pays for Non US Citizens 

Sec. 59B, Pg. 170, Line 1

Any NONRESIDENT alien is exempt from individual taxes.

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Physician Ownership 

Sec. 1156, Pg. 317, Lines 13-20

"PROHIBITION on physician ownership or Investment."

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Hospitals 

Sec. 1156, Pg. 317-318, Lines 21-25, 1-3

"PROHIBITION on Expansion of Facility Capacity." The government will mandate that hospitals cannot expand

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Living Wills and Durable Powers of Attorney 

Sec. 1233, Pg. 425, Lines 4-12

Government mandates Advance (Death) Care Planning consultation.

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A Dying Patient 

Sec. 1233, Pg. 430, Lines 11-15

The government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life, according to preset methods

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SHOULD THE PRESIDENT, ALL SENATORS, ALL CONGRESSMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES BE REQUIRED TO ENROLL IN THIS PUBLIC HEALTH CARE PLAN 

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New Caption Contest 

This is an opportunity for you to say something about the Health Care Plan with anonymity. Have fun, but remember this is a G-rated lens.

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"I sure am glad this won't apply to me or my family!"

2 points

This scares the beegeezus out of me!

1 point

I love signing away Americans rights!

1 point

Now everyone will be able to get the care they need instead of only the wealthy

1 point

Hmm.. what can I do to deflect from this awful economy and two wars so I can get reelected in 2012? I know, how about a health care plan that costs Americans more money and limits their health care coverage? Probelm solved!

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    mbgphoto mbgphoto Nov 23, 2009 @ 4:08 pm
    Very well done! 5*
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    Pukeko Pukeko Oct 11, 2009 @ 10:39 pm
    Well done. I have lensrolled to Should Obama Have Been Given the Nobel Peace Prize?
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    A reader A reader Aug 25, 2009 @ 9:50 pm
    There are some topics that are missing from these poll questions. For example, in the news they talk about regulating private insurance companies so they can't boot people when they get sick, which is a reform that a lot of people have positive feelings about. Is that not in any of the bills, or did the Liberty Counsel just exclude that from the data they featured? They also said that people with private insurance can keep it instead of using the public plan. Is that not the case or is it just left out of the poll?

    Another example. It says that non-resident aliens don't pay taxes. Non-resident aliens are either tourists or illegals. But the poll question then asks about care for ALL non-US citizens. All non-citizens would include legal resident aliens who have their green card and pay the same taxes as the rest of us. Lumping those groups together in the question is confusing and unfair to legal aliens.

    When data is presented selectively, the result feels like a push poll.
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    V1 V1 Aug 18, 2009 @ 5:56 pm
    There are relatively few "problems" that most people agree need to be addressed with health care:

    1.Uninsured U.S. citizens. (Pre-existing conditions, losing a job that provides insurance, simply can´t afford it, etc.)

    2. Abuses by insurance companies resulting in denial of needed care and services.

    3. Absurdly high insurance company rates for Doctor´s malpractice insurance.

    All or these issues could be resolved by specific, targeted legislation and regulation to address these issues directly and even provide outright subsidies to those ininsured U.S. citizens for a very, very small fraction of the cost, both in taxpayer dollars and to our privacy and freedoms, of this Orwellian monstrosity of a plan proposed by the Obama administration.

    "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples´ money." - Margaret Thatcher
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    hlkljgk hlkljgk Aug 18, 2009 @ 12:51 pm | in reply to nabrudigam
    well said.
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    nabrudigam nabrudigam Aug 17, 2009 @ 1:11 pm
    I'm tired of hearing how people are against "the plan". THERE IS NO PLAN!!! Congress is still hamering out the details. NONE OF THE 5 PROPOSED BILLS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED!! If and when a bill is FINISHED, complain about it then.

    I'm tired of hearing how people don't want to pay for other people health care. YOU ALREADY DO. People who have no insurance & go to the emergency room cause higher insurance premiums THAT YOU PAY.

    I'm tired of hearing that people do not want a "GOVERNMENT" plan. Social Security is a government plan. Building roads is a government plan, Police and fire department services are government plans. Do me a favor and get your facts straight before spouting off about "death panels" and other lies you are willingly swallowing from the lyers who don't want you to get the health care you need when you need it and who are simply against ANYTHING Obama does. Find out who he is and what he believes in from his OWN WORDS. READ HIS BOOKS if you CAN read.
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    Ah Ah Aug 14, 2009 @ 12:33 am
    I regularly pray that this passes. Instead of having to go to the ER for minor accidents, tying up the emergency room, taking care away from real emergencies, and also costing the government thousands of dollars, I'll be able to go to a real doctor. I haven't been able to go to a doctor in 12 years since I can't afford it. I was able to go to my school nurse when I was in college, but she couldn't do much beyond giving me prescriptions I couldn't afford to fill. I'll be able to go to the eye doctor and get glasses, so I can see more than five feet in front of me. Wow, I'd even be able to go to the dentist for the first time in 12 years and get my three broken teeth fixed and my wisdom teeth pulled. Would my life change? Yes. But the health care plan isn't going to pass because people who hate their health insurance don't want it to change, politicians don't want it to change, and the insurance companies that are making millions of dollars on the current system don't want it to change.
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    kiwisoutback kiwisoutback Aug 13, 2009 @ 2:17 pm
    Ugh, I hope this doesn't go through. Obama needs to stop hosting beer summits and trying to screw up the health care system (more) and get back to work on the economy. Great debate, Squid Angel blessed!
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    puzzlemaker puzzlemaker Aug 12, 2009 @ 2:07 pm
    Sylvestermouse, congrats on this lens. Relevent for the times and makes people think. I hope more people take the polls and consider all this bill would do. I'm passing it on.
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    Stazjia Stazjia Aug 12, 2009 @ 8:16 am
    I live in the UK where we have the National Health Service which we pay for through our taxes. Mostly people get the treatment they need although there is some element of rationing but the vast majority of people are not affected by it. What it means is that nobody here ever has to worry about not being able to consult a doctor when something is wrong because they can't afford to pay or have no insurance.

    Before the introduction of the NHS, people struggled to pay or didn't consult a doctor. Of course, many died sooner than they need to have done. Now, the vast majority of people would fight to keep the NHS. Even the Conservative Party (somewhat like Republicans) always promise it will be "safe in their hands".

    From the questions above, I'm not certain the US is proposing the most model of Health Care. For example, non-UK residents cannot come here for free treatment. The only exception is for an emergency, eg road accident, heart attack. Many other points too.
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All of the information in this lens about the proposed Health Care Plan was provided by: Reviewed, revised and adapted on July 29, 2009, by Liberty Counsel from the original authored by Peter Fleckenstein and posted on FreeRepublic.com and his blog, http://blog.flecksoflife.com/2009/07/19/the-hc-monstrosity/

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