PTC sites, The Dreaded "Ponzi" Effect

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Know what the Ponzi effect is?

If you don't know who this man is, don't worry! He's Charles Ponzi, and is know for being the creator of ponzi schemes!

I have to recognize that I was wrong, and totally skipping one very important aspect in my analysis of PTC sites. If you don't know what I'm talking about, please read my previous lenses: Overview and Why they aren't a scam. It is highly recommended that you do, in order to understand what I'm talking about.

Oh, please don't get me wrong! I'm not going to tell you: "PTC sites are scams, so don't listen to what I said before this". Instead, I just want to add yet one more page to my rather complex theory.

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The Ponzi Effect Unveiled 

On my other lenses, I focused on showing you what these sites were, how they worked and how they made a profit.

But I must reckon I skipped the fact or, to put it in a better way, possibility that these sites would actually lose money.

How? Well, I basically pointed out 2 things, and let me go over them a bit;

Key items to remember

1st. These sites lose money by paying more per click than what they earn.

2nd. They make a profit with deserters. They get paid for the clicks they make, but never have to pay them due to the fact that they never reach payout.

 


The Ponzi effect works a bit like this

 

However, there's a possibility that a certain site has less deserters than they need to keep paying. And this is called the "Ponzi Effect"

Ponzi schemes are known for taking in less money than they give out. As an example, they work as a pyramid, with those who acted first making money, and those who were last losing it.

Basically, if this happens, the site starts showing a "lag" in payments. What that means is, it will pay you, but as it isn't making a profit, it will take some time to do so. Specially if you requested a large payment.

Want an example?

If you do, you should check Bux.to.

Bux.to, the Ponzi Effect Personified! 

Bux.to is one of the best known PTC sites out there. In fact, go and search Google for "paid to click", and you'll find bux.to on the 3rd place as of today, 15/06/08 ;)

A few days ago it was celebrating it's 1st year online, and it constantly posts "proof of payment", from people earning from 500 to 1000 bucks average. Who wouldn't want to be one of those guys?

I'll tell you who: me. "Why? Are you a madman?" No, I'm no madman. Simply put, with Bux.to, my win is somebody else's loss, due to the ponzi effect.

As people are constantly requesting more than what Bux.to actually earns, they can't pay out members immediately. So, what do they do? Well, if you ask me, I'd say they pay "big" members so that "small" members are motivated to keep clicking.

But they don't pay those "small" members, because they can't. Simple as that.

Would YOU want to earn 1000 bucks... 

...knowing somebody else won't be paid?

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Yes, I don't care for the rest. It's only me!

CuTeDj96 says:

i say there is nothing wrong i mean you're doing nothing but clcking just like playing online games but the only difference is you get paid i mean they'll lose nothing except if they're premium members but then premium members are unlikrly to get ignored

ElizabethJeanAllen says:

I care about the others, but if they give up before they reach payout...that's not my fault. Give me my money.

No, count me out of it.

Nick says:

bux.to is the best ponzi sheme EVER ...since 21 months that I am waiting for simple 32 bucks...

geHucKa says:

Yeap man, you are damn right! PTC = Ponzi

 

"scam" = "the ponzi effect"?

Sites suffering this ponzi effect are often categorized as scams, but I want to make a difference between both.

-A scam site simply won't pay you, even if it has the money.

-Sites under the ponzi effect WANT to pay you, they simply can't.

My own favorite lenses on this subject! 

When making this lens, I found some interesting lenses that got me thinking. I thought you may like them, so here they are!

P.S: If you would want your lens to be found here, comment leaving a link to it and I'll check it.

Ponzi thoughts anyone? 

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    stranger stranger Feb 1, 2009 @ 10:37 pm
    99% of all PTC sites are in fact ponzi scams

    100% of all bux sites are ponzi scams, even NEOBUX the one who you all so highly praise is a huge ponzi scam that will collapse eventually, and leave tens of thousands scammed out of tons of their money and earnings.

    just look at the business model of the sites! they are doing nothing but selling investments!!! upgrades and referrals! barley any real ad sales go through at all, they are most self sponsored ads! so when all they are selling is the upgrades and referrals which make people earn faster and more of a percentage, that turns it into an illegal investment ponzi!!

    everyone in PTC needs to stop promoting these bux sites, they were created by network scammers and you all are making them filthy rich! it is absolute insanity!!

    they were created specificly AS PONZI MODELS!! IT IS NOT A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS MODEL!
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    stranger stranger Feb 1, 2009 @ 10:37 pm
    99% of all PTC sites are in fact ponzi scams

    100% of all bux sites are ponzi scams, even NEOBUX the one who you all so highly praise is a huge ponzi scam that will collapse eventually, and leave tens of thousands scammed out of tons of their money and earnings.

    just look at the business model of the sites! they are doing nothing but selling investments!!! upgrades and referrals! barley any real ad sales go through at all, they are most self sponsored ads! so when all they are selling is the upgrades and referrals which make people earn faster and more of a percentage, that turns it into an illegal investment ponzi!!

    everyone in PTC needs to stop promoting these bux sites, they were created by network scammers and you all are making them filthy rich! it is absolute insanity!!

    they were created specificly AS PONZI MODELS!! IT IS NOT A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS MODEL!
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    rydigga rydigga Jan 28, 2009 @ 10:52 am
    Hi Rodrigo, Interesting lens. I didn't know of a link between PTC and Ponzi schemes. Thanks for sharing.

    Ryan
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    Chadrew Chadrew Jan 13, 2009 @ 8:10 pm
    I'd also like to make another point about most 'bux' sites. Most of them make money not so much from deserters as they do from referral sales and upgrades. However, like you said, they actually LOSE money on ad sales! So effectively, whenever someone's clicking the ads, the site loses money... I try to ignore such sites and only join 'sustainable' PTC sites where the site actually makes PROFIT from the ad sales.
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    -Ray- -Ray- Jan 4, 2009 @ 4:43 pm
    Really like this site. Such a good discription of a very important topic. I decided to link out to this lens from my own since it's already been explained here :)
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