Seizures versus Demons

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Is it Seizures or Demons?

This lens is a response to a suggestion from the pulpit about demonic possession in comparison to those who suffer epileptic seizures. Even in this day and age, the church still gives out the wrong message about epilepsy and seizure disorders, mistakingly comparing them with demonic possession.

Seizures versus Demon Possession: The Church's Mistake

The Church Often Gives Out the Wrong Message

It happened again! Sunday morning, I had to miserably sit through a sermon listening to a priest compare a scripture in the Gospel according to Mark regarding a person rigid of body, foaming at the mouth, and described as possessed by a demon. (Mark 9: 17,18,20 "And one of the crowd answered Him, "Teacher, I brought You my son, possessed with a spirit which makes him mute; and whenever it seizes him, it dashes him to the ground, and grinds his teeth, and stiffens him out. And I told your disciples to cast it out." And they brought the boy to Him. And when he saw Him, immediately the spirit threw him into a convulsion, and falling to the ground, he began rolling about and foaming at the mouth.")

The priest went on to state, "Looks like epilepsy." I writhed in my seat, but was able to contain myself. I shortly thereafter left the service knowing there was work to be done in his shortsighted and damaging viewpoint to the hundreds sitting in that congregation.

For years, most of my life, I have lived with epileptic seizures, usually of the complex partial nature, minor in form, but always disrupting to the activity I had had on hand before onset. Staring, fidgeting, and inability to communicate is usually my worst function with a few minutes to an hour of rest required thereafter. On the other hand, I have known generalized convulsions a time or two in my life, and this is usually what the public thinks of when someone makes reference to demonic possession. Writhing, foaming at the mouth, rigid body shaking, and possible sounds like grunting can be manifested in this form of seizure. I have been cognizant when having a generalized seizure, and believe me, it is not fun, is horribly scary to the one having the seizure for the fear that it will never end. I can only imagine how it appears to others in public, but I have had fingers pointed at me a time or two.

The damage done by that priest in the front of the congregation in spreading the mindset that epilepsy is demonic possession or akin to it is an utter step back in time. In my case, I have a scar on my brain near where my right temporal lobe was removed for the cessation of weekly seizures. At this point, I have far healthier control of seizures. Yet, I cannot forget the finger pointing, the congregational judgment, the pastoral and church authority blame associated with an epileptic seizure in public.

As recently as five years ago, I was run off from a local church when I had a seizure one evening with forewarning, removing myself from the room for privacy. The following week I was told not to come back again! The lead pastor of the group touted himself as compassionate and full of understanding, yet he was fast to reject me as fearful to children. Instead of teaching others to assist them in understanding, he furthered their misunderstanding about a frightening sight, and thus furthered the stigma about epilepsy.

On the other hand, I believe in demon possession, but discount the equality with epilepsy obviously. Demonic possession can take many forms, many psychological, and often obsessive. In the case of Mark, there may well have been a convulsive spirit causing foaming at the mouth and rigidity of body, but to instantly equate this with any seizure activity being demonic is shortsighted and misleading to say the least.

Some disorders are scarier than others, I thoroughly understand. Do we instantly run from those that we do not understand? Do we turn from fear and act like cowards rather than embrace differences? Compassion and understanding demand strength and openness, a willingness to learn and accept. They do not disregard because another is different. I have a member of my family who chooses to live a lifestyle totally different than the style I choose. Yet, my door is wide open and my arms embrace openly whenever we are together. Is not this the love of Christ? Choosing to label and judge another through ignorance is outmoded, derived from fear, and denies neurological understanding. May the collar please take notice, and open the church doors to those who have seizure disorders without judgment of demon possession. Compassion embraces with no judgment. Jesus did this for me.

Breaking the Shame of Seizures

My Story

Facing Me: Breaking the Bonds of Seizure Confinement by Stephanie S. Sawyer
This is my story on breaking out of shame.
I'm not sharing this for sales, but to rid the public of the false notions about epilepsy and demonic possession. It is amazing how prevalent it still is, particularly in the pulpit.
ISBN 1591295297
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    Casey "Liath" Dean Feb 14, 2010 @ 12:34 am | delete
    I've been on and off the internet searching for an answer to my many problems, but as I near the end of my questions, there is one that I never fully understood. I have been having seizure's for most of my life. I thought, and I've tried to accept that this was a medical issue, but the "doctors" I've all spoken to say that nothing is wrong. I've had many, many tests done to find that there was nothing. I've been through 3 exorcism's and the seizures just won't stop. Every time I feel good about myself, or if I'm in a comfortable place, I suddenly become cold, I shake, and I feel something come over me. Ten minutes later, I hit the floor. I shake, I can't control my breathing, and I can't even think. Many times I've blacked out, and when I wake up, I don't remember anything. I really want to believe that it is a spiritual attack, and I want nothing more than to try and figure this out. Not just for me, but for my fiance, who is terrified of the "attacks." I've looked into different things that may have some relation to spiritual attacks, but I only get stories, and no answers. Please, If anyone has any answer or even a suggestion, e-mail me at liath2161@yahoo.com or find me on facebook/ Liath Deane. Thank you
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    Donding May 10, 2011 @ 4:12 pm | delete
    You are by no means possessed by the devil and don't let anyone tell you that. Epilepsy is a disease. As time goes by the medical community will learn more and more about the mysteries behind seizures, just as they have started opening the doors on causes of certain forms of cancer. I have seizures...grand mal as well as petit mal...I take medication and have been on dozens of different types. Nothing works for me but that is not always the case. I've had numerous MRI and Cat Scans through the years and they don't know what causes them, all they can see is the progress of the damage caused by them. Just because they don't know the cause doesn't mean you are demon possessed by any means and don't let anyone try to convince you otherwise. There are many possible physical causes of seizures, such as head injuries, high fevers, but epilepsy is not in that category and it sounds like that is what you have. It took me a very long time to finally accept that I have this and have not let it stand in my way of achieving what I want in life. Keep your head up and stay proud because you are no different than the next person.
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    Dr. V Nov 15, 2009 @ 7:21 pm | delete
    This is interesting...as a person of the cloth...I would think that regardless of the condition, the best place for any person in need should be the church! a real one anyway. How unfortunate to turn people away...www.CathedralofPraiseCommunityChurch.org
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    Swededesigns Oct 17, 2009 @ 12:56 pm | delete
    Wow, I cannot believe that "concerned" is actually of the mindset that seizures are caused by demons. =/ Unbelieveable. Makes me worry even more about having one in public. Ridiculous. You hang in there Stevie. ;)
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    rericsawyer Sep 3, 2009 @ 1:42 am | delete
    Well, my better judgment is usually to "not feed the trolls", and "Concerned" has those trollish earmarks: hiding behind anonymity, and short, unreasoned attack with no coherent support given. However, this comment pulls me to respond for several reasons:

    The first is charitable, I am going to do as my mother would have it, and assume that "concerned" is not a troll, but simply ignorant about both Christianity, and about epilepsy.
    A second reason is that as Ms. Sawyer's husband, I am a bit un-accepting of those who assert that my wife is demon-possessed. You may think that is a bit unreasonable of me, but there it is.
    The third reason for interjecting myself now is that, while I am generally tolerant of folks saying things that they haven't thought through, and thus looking pretty foolish (after all, where would I be if folks treated me strictly on that score!),=======(snip)
    "Please see my full comment at http://www.rericsawyer.wordpress.com.
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May the collar please take notice, and open the church doors to those who have seizure disorders without judgment of demon possession. Compassion embraces with no judgment.

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Resolution

Here's How the Lord Spoke to me

As you may have guessed through reading this lens, I have been torn about this matter ever since it happened. There has been no commmunication with the priest involved nor from the superior one in that church. It grieves me terribly particularly since I have a long-standing relationship there as well as my entire family.

However, the Lord is always the victor, and so He was this very morning. I was attaching my Daughter's cross (I am a member of the Order of the Daughters of the King) to my clothing when I heard a faint whisper. Let's call that a nudge, but I had to suddenly stop myself to really listen to that small voice.

It was a line from a song I knew in a congregation I was deeeply involved in years ago. The song, simple and childlike, had worked its way deep within, and was now surfacing by the Spirit's nudging. Take note that this happened as I was attaching my Daughter's cross which reads "Magnanimitur Crucem Sustine" (With Heart Mind and Soul Uphold and Bear the Cross).

The line that started to drift through my mind by Beverlee Paine states, "But I say unto you, love your enemies and pray for those you hurt you. Give to those who ask, don't turn away......If you forgive each other, so will God forgive you...." These words are from Be Like Your Father which Beverlee wrote in 1979. It is a cherished song in many places, and the Lord definitely used it once more this very morning as I was able to still my spirit and listen to His voice. I knew instantly that His message to me was to forgive the harm done to me by the priest. Although I have known that intellectually ever since the occassion, I have not been able to accept it into my heart until this very morning when I heard these words.

In my profile, I stated that I am open and share my victories. Sometimes, openess in questionable to others who wonder why share the trial. But if you can value anything of the struggle and the final resolution, than it is worth every word given. It is the Lord who wins the battle, not me!

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    WhitU4ever Sep 28, 2009 @ 11:56 am | delete
    There is just no excuse for a church official to be THAT ignorant, let alone ignorant about ANYTHING! Blows my mind... 5*'s and favorited. You did a wonderful job on this lens! ;)
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    stevie10772 Apr 2, 2009 @ 6:56 pm | delete
    Thank you for writing. Lamictal is, indeed, one of the many successful medications used for seizure control. It is also used in other disorders such as may be your case. Neurological drugs have a wide use in treating disorders and can often be found treating various forms of disorders in various degrees. Of course, many use a balance of two or three drugs at the same time.

    I'm glad Lamictal has been so successful for you. I'm no doctor, but I can say that each drug is important in use for the function carried to the symptoms displayed and far more neurologically than I can explain! It's always important that your main talents such as creativity be left intact, and that no doctor treats you to the extent that those functions are depressed.

    One more thing: Keep telling others about your story. In passing to others our victory, we are highlighting to the world the truth about neurological disorders, and breaking the stereotypes that often exists even today. March on!
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    realadviser Apr 2, 2009 @ 2:34 pm | delete
    I am 27 and was diagnosed as a depressive when I was 16. At the time my other mood states were pretty much put down to being a teenager but they progressively became worse over the years to a point where I didn't feel I had any balance or control and needed help badly. Lamictal 100 mg has made such a huge difference to me. I haven't had any side-effects and my creativity is still there. Life has become more fun and easy for me and the little things that used to hugely impact on my moods are hardly a blip on the radar now.

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