#SocEntChat April 2009

Keith Hammond, Director, News and Knowledge Program, Ashoka - @keithhammonds

SocialEdge.org, a project of the Skoll Foundation - @socialedge

Nathaniel Whitmore, Social Entrepreneurship blogger Change.org - @Socialentrprnr

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tomjd: I'll be participating from both my accounts - Tom here from Ashoka, aka @ashokatweets :) #SocEntChat

socialentrprnr: Hi @nicolestipp @erinkrampetz @picosour @rland @writerpollock - erin I know you were at #swf - others? #socentchat

erinkrampetz: I'm joining too! Erin from Asohka #SocEntChat

AshokaTweets: Thank you to @socialentrprnr for co-hosting #SocEntChat with me (@tomjd). Excited to be kicking off the first one now about #SWF09

piscosour: RT @AshokaTweets: #SocEntChat is starting now! Follow the #socentchat hashtag to participate. See here http://bit.ly/J6tck (expand) for more details.

socialentrprnr: Welcome to first #socentchat http://is.gd/o44v (expand) thanks to @ashokatweets for convening this. #swf09 who else here went to #swf09?

AshokaTweets: #SocEntChat is starting now! Follow the #socentchat hashtag to participate. See here http://bit.ly/J6tck (expand) for more details.

tomjd: About to start the 1st live #socentchat discussion about the recent Skoll World Forum, follow hashtag #socentchat to participate!

AshokaTweets: How #SocEntChat will work: we will run thru a series of Qs. U can propose Qs by replying 2 this acct w/o hashtag. We will have new Q/15 mins

AshokaTweets: First Question: What were the most provocative panels at #SWF09? And why? #SocEntChat

erinkrampetz: Storytelling: it got at the heart of the tension between telling stories for change while not exploiting the narrative. #socentchat

CauseGlobal: #SocEntChat I liked this one on "dark side" http://causeglobal.blogspot.com/2009/03/skollfest3-spinternet.html

keithhammonds: the panel connecting new media to social impact made real the power of participative culture #SocEntChat

keithhammonds: great metaphor from charles leadbetter about the shift from "boulders" to "pebbles". which is us. #SocEntChat

socialentrprnr: @erinkrampertz did they have any examples of storytelling they thought WAS exploitative? #socentchat

tomjd: Quote: @causeglobal 's re that panel: "Once a story is out in the public sphere, it cannot be removed from public consciousness" #socentchat

keithhammonds: And Witness, same panel, made real the connection between online storytelling and human impact #SocEntChat

keithhammonds: I should have emphasized, "great" online storytelling! #SocEntChat

tomjd: @erinkrampetz Could you explain the tension btw telling stories for change w/o exploiting the narrative. 'Exploit' has neg vibe #socentchat

socialentrprnr: #socentchat @keithhammonds I wrote a post about the "social change media delivery problem" in the social media panel: http://is.gd/pdoV

CauseGlobal: #SocEntChat That Witness clip of the 6-year-old girl, the daughter of the Yemeni journo, was well-done

keithhammonds: @CauseGlobal: Yes! Not just that it was well done, but she was a wonderful storyteller. #socentchat

CauseGlobal: #SocEntChat I thought Lord Puttnam's words on education were very forceful, a kind of quiet rage

keithhammonds: Here's the link -- the daughter of an imprisoned Yemeni journalist http://hub.witness.org/en/node/7891 #socentchat

socialentrprnr: #socentchat @causeglobal i agree re: Puttnam - I work with students who are angry and frusrated about education

tomjd: For those of us not at #SWF09 could you relay the content/context of Lord Puttnam's remarks?

erinkrampetz: Re exploitative narrative, Greg Barker did not air a story with street children in Mexico sniffing glue bc of sensitive content #socentchat

CauseGlobal: #SocEntChat C. Mertes's story panel: how stories are "intervention" & how Susan CollinsMarks used Burundi radio series to redefine heroism

socialentrprnr: #socentchat lord puttnam producing a docu about how bankrupt our 20th century industrial education system is for 21st cent info economy

tomjd: @erinkrampetz B/c it would exploit them? Is that not an important story tho? And in tellin it doesnt it make action more likely? #socentchat

nlw: #socentchat my fav panel BY far was Health w Paul Farmer, Nathan Wolfe, Larry Brilliant, Bret Wedjens, Gene Falk

tomjd: @erinkrampetz @lennonflowers Given your work w students+educators do u c the same anger/frustration @socialentrprnr tells of? #socentchat

tomjd: And is the frustration felt by students shared by faculty? Are they both trapped in an industrial-era edu system? #socentchat

rland: @erinkrampetz I assme the sensitive prt was not the glue snifin but their personal histories? Can this docmntry be found online? #socentchat

socialentrprnr: #socentchat @tomjd the tenure system=busted, partic. in socsciences - no collab. allowed 4 example

socialentrprnr: #socentchat the thing I like about healthfolks is they always filter things through the lens of their patients + think in terms of systems

tomwatson: #SocEntChat I thought Matthew Bishop's panel was a real bomb-thrower - basically 'government owns the market now' (Hi all)

CauseGlobal: @socialentrprnr #socentchat lord puttnam remarks - see bullets http://causeglobal.blogspot.com/2009/03/skollfest-wraps.html

tomwatson: #SocEntChat 'Course I was kinda partial to that Kiva, Glovalgiving, MyC4 panel too! Smart panelists...

tomwatson: @socialentrprnr #socentchat Right, Matthew was the moderator/instigator and quite good - didn't allow the previous status quo to lie there

lend4health: @tomwatson Tom did Premal ever reveal his salary like Mads did? (curious for actual biz related purposes) #SocEntChat

socialentrprnr: @tomwatson that's great to hear - that's important, wish i had gone to that one! #socentchat

tomwatson: #socentchat I also thought the Twitterfication of Skoll was fascinating - did a post today @causewired - http://tinyurl.com/cl4djs

AshokaTweets: Could new people (and anyone who hasn't yet) please introduce themselves and link to their projects - thanks! #SocEntChat

CauseGlobal: #SocEntChat Also good were T. Watson's panelists & their candor about feeling constantly catching up, resource-cramped, and multifocused

lennonflowers: @tomjd: yes, system's broken, but the people aren't. hopeful--@ Uni Net Day, fac/practitioners r looking 4 ways 2 work together #socentchat

tomwatson: @lend4health #SocEntChat No he did not! (But your name came up enough that it was like you were attending)

tomjd: RT @lennonflowers: yes, systems broken, but the people arent. Encouraged @ UniNet Day that faculty r looking 4 ways 2 wk 2gether #SocEntChat

lend4health: #SocEntChat I'm Tori of Lend4Health (www.lend4health.org) formally introducing myself to #SocEntChat

keithhammonds: the question is, does all that background tweeting add value to a conference? #socentchat

socialentrprnr: #socentchat re: intros, I write at Change.org, run a Center at Northwestern, and am building new company Assetmap.org

socialentrprnr: @keithhammonds right on - that's the key question - it was more valuable for me in the sessions when we were all together #socentchat

GrowGhana: Al Taylor - GrowGhana LTD Hybrid FP/NP ICT/media meets citizen journalism Ghana #socentchat

StaceyMonk: #SocEntChat I'm Stacey of Epic Change (www.EpicChange.org) following @Lend4Health's lead & formally introducing myself to #SocEntChat

carebear238: Hi there, observing #socentchat, currently working on http://www.thecollaborationprize.org

lend4health: @keithhammonds I think it certainly adds value for those of us not AT the conf, not sure about those there. #SocentChat

tomwatson: I'm Tom Watson of CauseWired - book and company http://causewired.com - intro'ing myself per @AshokaTweets #SocEntChat

CauseGlobal: #SocEntChat Espec. Mari Kuraishi's comments about tradeoffs between risk and making payroll; Shah's bit about bypassing paul farmer project

piscosour: @keithhammonds background tweeting was great! allowed people like me to follow the conference from afar #SocEntChat

lend4health: If I were at Skoll, I wouldn't want to be tweeting during panels. Just like I don't take pics of cathedrals while in Europe. #SocEntChat

tomwatson: @StaceyMonk Hi Stacey - I used Tweetsgiving and those great Twitter walls as example in my panel #SocEntChat

lend4health: I would want to soak it all in fully. Tweeting would distract me. But I would certainly read the tweets later. #SocEntChat

keithhammonds: @piscosour: Would you not rather watch on video feed? #socentchat

lend4health: Curious what those of you there thought - @PeterDeitz? #SocEntChat

jeffchu: @khammonds For a journo , the tweeting was terrific for color, vibe, more eyes and ears (Jeff Chu of fastcompany.com here). #socentchat

erinkrampetz: One point made in SFCG/Sundance/Barker panel: "Empathy will make people move INTO the story, sympathy will make people move ON" #socentchat

TrackerNews: #SocEntChat Hello - TN featured SWF09's twitter feed in a series of links last week. So wonderful to be able to follow!

erinkrampetz: Here are a few examples of Barker's work with powerful impact: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/us/barker.html #socentchat

piscosour: @keithhammonds would have to follow all the time, tweets allow me to keep working, check back now and then for highlights #SocEntChat

CauseGlobal: #SocEntChat @erinkrampetz: Sundance/Barker panel: yes, great distinction between sympathy and empathy!

nicole_harrison: Hi I am with MicroGrants, www.microgrants.net...introducing myself to #socentchat

RichardSmedley: @tomwatson Good post. Not only was I able to follow from 100mls away, but to join in the conversation, & make valuable contacts #SocEntChat

tomjd: @erinkrampetz What do you think marks the distinction btw stories which build empathy vs sympathy? #socentchat

AshokaTweets: Seeing as it has become big discussion already let's make official Question 2: Did all the #SWF09 tweeting help or hinder event? #SocEntChat

peterdeitz: #SocEntChat I loved tweeting the Forum, but there's no question that tweeting prevented me from meeting

CauseGlobal: #SocEntChat @tomjd @erinkrampetz: Cara Mertes said the diff is that empathy makes people want to do something v feel something

jeffchu: @AshokaTweets As a first-timer not sure what to make of the event, it MADE it for me in some ways. (I didn't pick best panels.) #socentchat

erinkrampetz: pity hinders dignity and empathy moves people to action . #socentchat

lennonflowers: great way to involve non-attendees in live discussion, esp. given high cost /restricted invite list #SocEntChat

StaceyMonk: IMO, live-tweeting often encourages participation, opens up too-oft unspoken undercurrents & broadens geographic impact #SocEntChat

CauseGlobal: #SocEntChat Twitter helped to connect those absent to the event

TrackerNews: @AshokaTweets #SocEntChat tweets made possible to get a real sense of the event from far away, but as always, there's range in quality.

keithhammonds: the undercurrents were great. I'd love to figure out how to integrate them into the out-loud conversation #socentchat

peterdeitz: On the other hand, I was sent there to tweet and blog. I loved every minute of it. #SocEntChat

isaacholeman: @socialentrprnr scholars like Paul Farmer obviously influenced by Marx, prob would not have survived McCarthy w out tenure #socentchat

GrowGhana: tweeting at events is good for some but not in my case- I prefer intense focus #SocEntChat

keithhammonds: mostly, though, tweeting got in the way of thinking for me. I'm not multi-level enough... #socentchat

AshokaTweets: RT @CauseGlobal: Cara Mertes said the diff is that empathy makes people want to do something vs (pity makes u) feel something #SocEntChat

socialentrprnr: #socentchat I actually didn't tweet that much except in specific sessions. dont think it added much for people there outside plenarys

writerpollock: #SocEntChat I agree, I learned a lot about #SWF09 through tweets, even though I wasn't there.

socialentrprnr: rt @isaacholeman scholars lk Paul Farmer obviously influenced by Marx, prob would not have survived McCarthy w out tenure #socentchat -true

StaceyMonk: @keithhammonds #SocEntChat i've seen facilitators/moderators address "undercurrent"tweets as panel topics real-time -makes 4 nteresting disc

peterdeitz: Tweeting added value: 1) Allowed delegates to follow sessions from afar; 2) Tech-savvy social entrepreneurs found each other; #SocEntChat

socialentrprnr: #socentchat live blogging was also a drain, even though it's very rewarding now

tomjd: Would the tweeting at #SWF09 have been more valuable if it had been forgrounded ie projected during sessions? Or more distractn? #SocEntChat

omwatson: Half the people attending my panel were Tweeting - next year might be all of 'em - I liked the subcurrent #SocEntChat

TrackerNews: @peterdeitz #SocEntChat from distance (Chicago), even the repetitive tweets gave a sense of mood, what resonated with people

socialentrprnr: #socentchat this tweeting convo is like market research - experimenting with twitter-type client for assetmap conference

tomjd: RT @swertheimer: combining public health and SocEnt with my project - http://tinyurl.com/cclb4z (expand), @AshokaTweets #SocEntChat

TrackerNews: @peterdeitz #SocEntChat of course, tweeting does a real number on the whole Ram Dass "be here now" ideal... Who's where when?

AshokaTweets: @CauseGlobal Thanks for joining in and your great contributions! Hope to see you next month, May 6, for #SocEntChat number 2

erinkrampetz: It was great to get the gossip from other sessions simultaneously. The sounds bites were conversation starters . #socentchat

boxofcrayons: @HildyGottlieb a really interesting question - expanding on thinking about who's in your audience... #SocEntChat

socialedge: Tweeting captured moments, phrases. Also found it helpful to prioritize sessions were "worthy" of watching the video version. #SocEntChat

peterdeitz: @tomjd In some sessions, it would have made sense to tweet questions / responses to the panel. Would need special hashtag #SocEntChat

lend4health: I started following @StaceyMonk bc I liked her live tweets at #SoCap08. Now we're buddies! :) Live tweets help find new peeps. #SocEntChat

writerpollock: @peterdeitz @meshugavi You will also be able to get the full transcript for #SocEntChat April at http://www.squidoo.com/SocEntChatApril09

AshokaTweets: For the people who were not at #SWF09 - please feel free to ask (via @ reply w/o hashtag) about specific discussion points #socentchat

HildyGottlieb: @boxofcrayons In addition, there are those who will read and add thoughts later. That extends the time, not just the place. #SocEntChat

socialedge: Question: how can twitter be used to make sessions globally interactive? A quick vote on top issues or questions to be covered? #SocEntChat

AshokaTweets: Question 3: (from @carebear238) "I'm wondering about any interesting insight gleaned from SWF sessions on social investing." #SocEntChat

HildyGottlieb: @lend4health I agree- I found intersting folks to follow via their tweets, some at the conf, some not, but all of like intrests. #SocEntChat

socialentrprnr: @carebear238 i didn't end up going to that panel unfortunately! #socentchat

keithhammonds: @ashokatweets Per Q3,Bishop's panel mostly around institutional social investing: Wall St still doesn't take it seriously #socentchat

miguelrodriguez: watching the #SocEntChat discussion start -go to http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23socentchat to follow along.

socialentrprnr: #socentchat interesting thing re: soc invest is Steve of Gray Ghost thinking that WE don't have capacity to fulfill demand http://is.gd/qanU

AshokaTweets: Does anyone else have questions on specific panels, esp if you weren't at Skoll? #SocEntChat

tomjd: RT @socialedge: Question: how can twitter b used 2 make sessions globally interactive? Vote on top issues or Qs to be covered? #SocEntChat

AshokaTweets: Moving on... Question 4: What were the conversations you wish had happened at #SWF09 but which were missing? #SocEntChat

lend4health: By next year, the #tag.subtag syntax might be ready from @threadio, which would enable following indiv. panels. #socentchat

leechalmers: @peterdeitz #SocEntChat "Tech-savvy social entrepreneurs found each other" Very useful in my world!

keithhammonds: one person can't moderate session and manage twitter at once. must break up the functions -- or create discrete twitter moment #socentchat

end4health: Perhaps 1 Twitter monitor per session responsible for fielding questions from the Twitterverse? A @PeterDeitz for each session. #SocEntChat

janeblog: @socialedge #SocEntChat Time zones big issue 4 AustsSchedule interactivity 4 lapover hrs?Mayb central threads 2 follow easily after event.

RichardSmedley: @keithhammonds Yes, a Twitter moderator to pick out burning Qs frm Twitter stream & hand to speaker on paper - #SocEntChat

AshokaTweets: RT @AshokaTweets: Question 4: What were the conversations you wish had happened at #SWF09 but which were missing? #SocEntChat

tomwatson: @AshokaTweets - Not in the zeitgest, but 'fundraising for social ventures' #SocEntChat

nuance_intel: hello, introducing myself to #socentchat -- thanks for leadership, @ashokatweets.

peterdeitz: @lend4health Cool. I would love to see #SWF09.Panel5 next year #socentchat

keithhammonds: Found a lot of the conversations amounted to sales pitches. Not enough questioning of the premise, examination of problems. #socentchat

peterdeitz: @AshokaTweets Conversations I wish were at #SWF09 More on technology for social enteprise, and how people are using it. #SocEntChat

tomjd: Id love to get the thoughts on last Q. Most conf's have elephants in room which get ignored - how bout #SWF09? #SocEntChat

socialentrprnr: #socentchat I always want to get more comfortable speaking in terms of human rights. Those words seem to scare us still: http://is.gd/lkvC

peterdeitz: @AshokaTweets Also, I would have liked more 'how to' sessions - How do you move from startup to full blown social venture #SWF09 #SocEntChat

socialentrprnr: rt @keithhammonds: lots of conversations =vsales pitches. Not enough questioning of the premise, examination of problems. #socentchat

socialentrprnr: #socentchat lil 2 much "SE=answer to crisis" less visioning of what SE at center of new capitalism *Actually* looks like

lend4health: What is the stated mission of Skoll Forum? #SocEntChat Who is intended audience? Panels need to be relevant to it & them.

erinkrampetz: Heading off to a meeting. It would have been great to have more student (and youth) voices in the conversations #socentchat

peterdeitz: @keithhammonds I agree. It would be cool if for an entire afternoon, the delegates were asked to drop their affiliations #socentchat

peterdeitz: @tomjd You don't want to get me started on the elephants in the room. I'll pass on that question. #SWF09 #SocEntChat

end4health: @peterdeitz Oh, now I'm very intrigued. Elephants in the room? :) #SWF09 #SocEntChat

GrowGhana: this is more like a Skoll debriefing: @peterdeitz please elaborate #SocEntChat

AshokaTweets: @erinkrampetz Agreed! Next month's topic is on #SocEnt on campuses so let's make that happen! #socentchat http://bit.ly/ww18L

lennonflowers: Wanted more on how "principles of SE" apply to other sectors. Don't need every1 2 b a SE, just more people thinking like them #socentchat

tomjd: @peterdeitz Well that was easily the most intriguing/mysterious thing anyone has said today... (go on, tell us more ;) #SocEntChat

AshokaTweets: @GrowGhana This month's topic is Skoll Debrief, next month is about #SocEnt on campuses, May 6 - http://bit.ly/ww18L (expand) #SocEntChat

nicolestipp: @AshokaTweets @erinkrampetz would love to do some youth-centric stuff! #SocEntChat

peterdeitz: How about elephants not in the room. I would have liked to see / hear more ppl who are directly impacted by social ventures #SocEntChat

lend4health: @peterdeitz So it's a lot of "WE" are doing this for "THEM" as opposed to the "THEM's" being there? #SocEntChat

tomjd: @peterdeitz Good point and well said. That is often the way at #socialchange conferences #SocEntChat

GrowGhana: @peterdeitz- you're interesting but the voiceless are always crowded out like musical chairs #SocEntChat

socialentrprnr: #socentchat @peterdeitz for sure, the biggest whole is the fact that its all CEOs - awesome in principle, often myopic in practice

AshokaTweets: Any final questions before we wrap up this first installment of #SocEntChat?

GrowGhana: next time, I'll host a tweet meetup in Ghana that will be full of the "thems" #SocEntChat

miguelrodriguez: @AshokaTweets one topic I'm interested in is how to measure growth, what metrics do we use to measure success of a social app? #SocEntChat

AshokaTweets: Thanks for coming and participating everyone! Great 2see you all. Next #SocEntChat Wed May 6, topic: #SocEnt on Campuses http://bit.ly/ww18L

peterdeitz: @miguelrodriguez That's the million dollar Q. We'll figure it out when reg. business figures out how to measure "externalities" #SocEntChat

tomjd: RT @AshokaTweets: You can follow @socentchat to get reminders of upcoming #SocEntChat 's (if you follow @ashokatweets u'll be right)