Mother-of-Vinegar Starter Culture
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Best Tips for successful Vinegar Making at home
We want everyone to have a great experience with making their own vinegars at home.
Some of the things we'll be talking about here:
- Vinegar Myths,
- Do's & Don'ts,
- Potential Problems
- Uses for your homemade vinegar
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Ever make your own Vinegar?
Getting a good Start to making Vinegar
What you need:
2. Mother-of-vinegar starter culture
3. Wine or other fermented beverage
4. Water
5. Something to regulate air transference
6. A warm place to keep your jar for several months
1. Choose your jar. We recommend a 1 gallon glass jar, preferably one of the Sun Tea jars with a pour spout in the lid and a drain spout. It's important to have a small hole to regulate air transference, and a large enough hole to remove the "mother" when it has formed.
2. A good vinegar starter culture will include a nice sized chunk of "mother" along with active vinegar culture (liquid). Match your starter culture flavor to the vinegar you want to make (i.e., red wine vinegar starter for red wine vinegar, malt for malt vinegar, etc.)
3. Whatever wine or other fermented beverage you use will directly impact the flavor of your vinegar. So it's a good idea to make sure you like it before adding it to your culture. Leftover wine and flat beer are excellent choices.
4. The quality of your water also makes a difference in how your vinegar will taste, and chemicals in city water can impact your success. So if you like the taste of your tap water, let it set in an open jar or pitcher for 24 hours before using to allow at least the chlorine to evaporate. Also consider bottled or distilled water.
5. What you use for air transferrence depends largely on what type/style/size container you have. Whether or not what you're using is ideal will also depend on your particular situation - so check you're vinegar often (once every week or two) and adjust accordingly.
Besides getting the correct flow of air into your vinegar starter culture, you also need to keep the bugs and dust and such out of it. Tight weave, breathable, and washable are the qualities we're looking for. Consider one or more of these: cotton ball, many layers of cheesecloth, a section of nylon stocking, flour cloth dish towel, white or gray t-shirt material, etc.
6. Vinegar mother likes to be kept warm. It probably won't die if it's too cold (we've frozen it with success), but it certainly won't turn the wine into vinegar, either, and you take the chance of mold growing before it can convert. So WARM is better.
For small batches (1 to 2 gallons) we recommed on top of your refrigerator towards the back. Pantry, closet shelf, and kitchen counter are also good choices.
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David
Jan 15, 2012 @ 10:03 pm | delete
- I have a friend that ages (11 years) his vinegar in six barrels made by Rezi in Italy. Each barrel is made of a different wood. The final product is amazing. Can I buy barrels in the US?
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Kiwi in UK
Nov 2, 2011 @ 7:42 am | delete
- I cannot buy red wine mother in the UK only an apple cider mother. Can I use this instead to start my red wine vinegar?
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MushroomKing
Sep 15, 2011 @ 3:38 am | delete
- What is the difference between mother starter vinegar and the scoby kombucha mother?
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Sara McCoy
Oct 7, 2011 @ 5:02 pm | delete
- MOV (mother of vinegar) is composed of the organism acetobacter while the kombucha scoby means: Symbiotic Culture of Bacteria and Yeast and refers exclusively to the mat formed by living Kombucha. Kombucha ferments sweetened tea, while MOV ferments wine, beer or mead. You CAN make a vinegar-like liquid with a SCOBY from kombucha, but it is tea based, close--but not quite the same thing.
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“The quickest way to Vinegar Making success is controling temperature and air flow.”
What you need to make your own vinegar
Vinegar Starter Cultures
What's that Slimy Stuff?!?
Yes, that slimy stuff is the "Mother" of vinegar. It's not always slimy; once the mother has had a chance to work for several months, it should get thick and feel more like wet leather.
Vinegar making Myths
Response: Maybe, but it's unlikely. Wine often goes "sour" and that makes people think it's turned to vinegar.
Sour wine is certainly unpleasant to drink, and it can make your stomach upset or cause you to become ill. But it is NOT vinegar at this point.
Just like it takes specific yeast cultures to turn grapes into wine, so does it take specific cultures to make vinegar. Making vinegar and wine in the same place isn't a very good idea because the vinegar culture spores can/do infect good wine and turn it SOUR (not into vinegar).
Vinegar made with sour wine usually turns out quite good. The process of turning it into vinegar removes the substances that cause upset, leaving a delicious vinegar (if the wine tasted good before going sour).
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Myth: Some vinegar starter cultures work faster than others.
Response: Possibly. The more active a culture is when you use it, the quicker it will work IF you give it the right conditions (temperature and air transfer).
Young vinegar starter culture is preferred over aged starter for making-more-vinegar, along with a nice sized chunk of "mother".
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Myth:
Response:
Never, Ever!
It will eat through the materials, and in some cases (aluminum!) can cause a toxic gas and/or introduce toxins to your vinegar.
Questions & Answers
Thanks for all the great questions! We hope this helps...
Q. I know I want to wait 6 months to a year for the best tasting vinegar, but is it ok for me in that time to continue to add to this first batch (every 6 to 8 more weeks)? I have added 48 oz. into the 128 oz. jar so there is obviously room for more, and its seems the mother enjoys fresh stock so I was thinking I might be able to add 48-60 more oz over time?
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A. Yes, you can add more ale over time and it will convert to vinegar. However, doing it this way you will always have "raw" vinegar, and often more ale than vinegar, until it's completely converted.
I've found the best results are to double my batch each time until I have BOTH a working vinegar mother and vinegar to set aside to "age" or use.
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Q. I was wondering about mother harvesting. If in say, 3 months, I want to use some of the mother to make a new batch, can I just rack this batch of vinegar into another jar, filtering out the mother in the process, cut it up and use it at that time? And, if I do that, will I be expecting another new mother to form in the new jar?
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A. Jostling is enough to cause the mother to drop to the bottom of the jar and start forming a new mother on top.
Best time to start a new batch of vinegar is when you have a good working mother (formed in your current batch).
Yes, filter. Keep about a cup or more of the newest mother and give the rest to your compost pile. 1 part vinegar to 3 parts ale.
Hint: Warm temperatures and a good portion of mother will help your vinegar convert faster (it also causes quicker evaporation).
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Q. I recently started one of your vinegar starters and my wife found that it was attracting bugs. I have never had this problem in the past. Does this mean the conversion is not taking place? Is there a way to avoid the bugs or does it mean my "mother" has gone bad? Can you advise.
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A. Unfortunately, fruit flies are a problem for vinegar, wine and beer makers this time of year. We've addressed Fruit Flies further down in this lens, which might help.
There is most likely nothing wrong with your "mother" or vinegar starter, as long as you have a fine mesh to keep the flies out. Change that cloth when the infestation has reduced and there's less chance of the critters actually getting in to your brew.
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Q. I used your vinegar starter for red wine. There was a big rubber mass afterwards in my jar. What was it and what should I do in the future with it?
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A. The big rubber mass you refer to IS the "mother" and it forms when your vinegar is converting normally.
The trick is to get your vinegar after a Good Mother has formed, and BEFORE all the liquid (your vinegar!) has evaporated.
Use the liquid (vinegar) and a portion of the mother it formed to make more vinegar until you have enough to use and cook with.
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Q. I live in AZ and would like to order the vinegar starter packs, but as i won't likely use all three at once, I wanted to know if they were shelf stable. At present my house is about 81 - 82 degrees, 78 - 79 when I am home. Will they last on the shelf or should I refrigerate?
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A. Yep, shelf stable.... for years and years if you keep in a relatively cool, dark place. That's one of the best reasons folks have used vinegar for preserving foods for eons.
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Q. Can I use a clean milk jug or will it confine the air exchange too much?
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A. I'm not sure what kind of milk jug you're talking about - but you don't want to use anything with a narrow opening because you won't be able to get the "mother" out after it forms (can get very thick and leathery).
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Q. if i start another batch should i throw awy the old also how can i tell if its working should i see something? after how long
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A. It will probably take about 6 weeks for you to see the 'mother' on the surface of your vinegar. Sometimes it falls in and another one starts on top. Not a problem. And it probably won't smell too good right then, which is normal. --- If there's any kind of mold - toss it.
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Compost leftover Mother
There will almost always be leftover "mother" when making a new batch of vinegar. Feed it to your animals, toss it on your compost bin, or bury it in the flower garden for added nutrients and soil acidification.
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Fruit Flies
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A - Ugh. Fruit flies. They are probably the most important reason for using a cotton ball or very fine mesh (like nylon stockings) in the opening for your vinegar starter. We once tried to use a piece of window screen, and it's not fine enough to keep out fruit flies.
Vinegar is a natural attractant for fruit flies. You can actually lead the majority of them outside by moving a small bowl of vinegar towards and through the door. We keep all our food scraps (including compostables) outside the door or further away to reduce the amount of fruit flies inside near food, and we hang those sticky fly traps for the rest of them. (no chemicals for us).
We'd love to hear more ideas from you folks, if you have a technique that works. We'll even post it when we get the chance!
UPDATE: We tried a new method this year that's doing a great job in conjunction with the sticky tape.
--- Take a small jar and put in one of the following: a fruit or vegetable scrap, mother-of-vinegar (small piece of mother OR a small amount of juice), or beer (fruit flies favorite!). Just enough to entice them into the jar. Now cover with a piece of plastic and secure with a rubber band, making sure it's tight and taut. Poke holes in the plastic top with a large nail, ball point pen, large bamboo stick, etc.
This calls all fruit flies, so a sticky trap a few feet above it is helpful, as is slowly moving it towards the outdoors when possible.
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Bill Taylor
Jan 23, 2011 @ 9:50 pm | delete
- 1. In the past, I used an old 1 gallon apple cider jug. Chlorine water wash and Hot water rinse (hot as you can take it) worked for sanitation. No SOAP!
2. Dilute the wine so the alcohol is the same as the final acid you want. 10% alcohol wine goes to 10% acid vinegar (VERY sharp. Hint: store bought is about 5%)
3. For the mesh, I use paper towels. You need two pieces, doubled or 2-ply, large enough to cover the opening. Take the first piece and snug it down to the opening. Not taut, but close fitting. Rubber band it around the edges. Take the second piece and balloon it very loosely over the first. Lots of space in between. They should only be touching at the very edges. Rubber band this around the edges too. The paper towel can breathe easily. The outer piece acts as a dust and fly screen. The inner screen is a safety and keeps the vinegar sanitary, which is why you want no contact
4. Put it up and away, keep.your fingers out, and enjoy the smells for a few weeks.
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Jerry Blankenship
Feb 27, 2010 @ 12:21 pm | delete
- I just started making vinager. I make wine so I have a good supply to work with. I would like to know if there is a way to convert the ph reading to the amount of acitic acid in the vinegar? If the ph is 3.00 in a vinegar with 5 percent actic acid,can that be used to tell what the acitic aicd would be in a vinager with a ph of 4? Thanks Jerry
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