HERE'S WHAT I THINK
It seems however that this statement is inherently paradoxical as human society cannot function without some sort of structure on the base level.
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Is An Anarchist State Even Possible?
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mankind says:
At this point in time anarchy is not possible, it would take a worldwide effort to completely disarm and let go of power and money. Mankind would have to reach the intellectual level that peace is possible and anarchy is the only way to absolute peace and freedom. I believe that one day we will get there until then I will pay the government to live on there land; abide by my rules and morals. My country not my government, but I can wait for it.
Posted July 28, 2008
Matt says:
Hmmm. Ive thought about this myself quite a bit. I think a complete anarchist state is impossible, as there would be no defense against the inevitable takeover of greed and fanaticism. However, If their were a loose set of laws such as "every person has complete freedom in his/her endevours as long as this freedom does not infringe on the rights of others to have this same ability" then a moderate anarchy I think would be very possible.
Posted April 21, 2008
No way, Monkeybrain!
sheesh says:
is a stateless state even possible?
Posted October 30, 2009
Tdlu says:
Your question is incorrectly phrased because you do not distinguish between "state" in the sense of "governmental organization" and "state" in the sense of "condition of being."
Obviously, anarchist associations of humans have existed in the past, whenever humans have associated freely without coercion. However, these social groupings were not governments, statist forces, armies, or tribes.
The presence of structure does not require coercion. For example, consider groups who meet to do tai-chi in public parks. There is no specific teacher; there is no money involved. Everyone agrees that they all like tai-chi and that they all want to practice. The unifying factor, tai-chi, provides social structure without coercion.
Posted September 22, 2009
All Destroyer says:
Your question is wether or not there's a paradox, however, you've formulated your question in a way where I see no potential paradox.
Your stipulated definition of anarchy does not say that there is no structure at a "base" level. Under this definition of anarchy, which itself is questionnable, anarchy is simply an absence of official government and a maximum of liberty. Therefore there is neither an implied nor inherent paradox with the statement, "society cannot function without some sort of structure on the base level."
More problematic is that your statement about society in general is not true prima facie. Especially considering that for this statement to true human society could not function without structure. Therefore, if there is not some sort of structure then there is not human society. However the idea of society in and of itself implies at least "some sort of structure". Couldn't this structure be the sort where people congregate without a governance? Couldn't this structure very well be anything at all? Sorry, too many rhetorical questions- but I don't want to write a multipage essay.
Posted September 20, 2009
gnat says:
there are a number of different schools of anarchist thought, some interpretations contradicting others. Although anarchism is generally taken to mean society functioning without hierarchical institutions of coercion such as 'the state', it can also be thought of as any model for society embodying the fundamental principles of self-ownership and the total absence of authority/power/violence unless justified as a last resort by general interests including the interests of those it is used against.
To reiterate j's statements, anarchy is NOT the failure of a state or a chaotic absence of social order. Anarchy IS an social order free from authority (such as government), oppression, any form of slavery (such as debt induced wage labour) such as to maximize individual liberties.
In conclusion, although it can be said that liberty is s vulnerability, there a many ideas as to exactly how such a ideal could be realized, and there's no irrefutable argument against the possibility.
Posted August 11, 2009
j says:
No, a Anarchist state is not possible, because having a state would not be Anarchism.
The wikipedia definition of Anarchism is completely wrong. The actual definition of Anarchism is "belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion"
Anarchism is basically decentralized socialism. Socialism being that workers control the means of production. So Anarchism HAS organization. It is organized by workers councils and community assemblies which are then linked through a federation. Therefore no need of a state.
3 common misconceptions about Anarchism, which you have displayed are that:
1. It has no organization...WRONG, it is organization, but not in the form of anything like our current government.
2. It is chaos...WRONG, Anarchism isn't Somalia, Anarchism is peace and stability.
3. Everyone can do whatever they want with absolute liberty...WRONG, Anarchism maximizes individual liberty compared to all other economic and governmental forms, but people can't just go crazy and do whatever they want.
Don't listen to any of the other posters except Joel, they are all making up a bunch of bull because they don't know what they are talking about.
Posted May 03, 2009
Dicknose says:
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggg.
Posted May 05, 2008
Joel says:
Most anarchism does have some sort of governance either in the form of a communal organizations or agro-industrial federation. The definition, while not incorrect per se, is still misleading. I suggest you read bakunin or proudhon.
Posted April 14, 2008
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- Anarchism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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