Apostles Today and Apostolic Governance
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What is an Apostle Today?
What is an apostle expected to do today? When did the Apostolic Reformation begin? Are apostles today called to do what the first century apostles did? Why do some use the title of apostle and others don't? Who has authority in the church to interpret doctrine? How are we to discern a true apostle from a false apostle? What is Apostolic Governance?
Thousands of Christians have made the exodus out of the False Religious System and have been waiting in the wilderness in prayer asking God for the unity, power, and love of the true Christian faith-apostles today is God's answer to your prayers. It is time to rediscover the gift of apostolic stewardship and align ourselves again with God's purpose for apostles. The Bible says, "And they continued stedfastly in the Apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.." Acts 2:42
We will explore this subject fully on this blog. I hope you come back often to read, for I know that the Lord will provide a rich table for your faith to dine at. We are in a very blessed time in the history of the church. We are living in the days of the fulfillment of God's promise to restore, rebuild, and renew.
It is both a blessing to be a partaker of God's grace in this hour and to be an instrument of His grace, that by my ministry others also may hear and live. To be a servant to others, one must first make themselves a servant to God's grace. Only then can the vessel be tempered to contain only those things that God pours into it and only then can the vessel be qualified to pour out that same grace to others.I will share with you the testimony of my calling to apostleship that you too may take hope in believing that we are in the day of visitation that God promise in Hosea 6:1-3.
God also calls this time the Hour of Temptation because He is calling each individual believer to make a decision. You will either hang onto old traditions or embrace that which God is now doing. The test always comes before the reward. The longer you were exposed to the traditions and ways of the False Religious System, the harder it may be for you to make the transition.
Remember that the power of God will be with you as you make the decision. We are in a season of change. I will also be ministering to you about ways the Holy Spirit will be working with you to assist you through this transition.
My name is Eric vonAnderseck and I am the founder of Second 8th Week Ministries. Jesus' testimony of calling for my life to apostolic ministry can be viewed by clicking the videos linked in the next article. My prayer for you is that God will remind you of His hope that He set before you and that His mercy will accompany you as you make the transition. Expect that Satan will challenge your decision, but know that as you wrestle with grace, God will subdue the cries of the old man and renew you in His peace.
If you would like to study my free interactive course to learn more about what an apostle does today then I recommend the course "Apostles Today - Series 2". Each lesson is followed by an interactive quiz that allows you to test your knowledge of apostles today. Click on the image below to begin your free studies. . . (photos by Fotolia)

Birth of Apostolic Reformation
Apostles Today Need to Have the Calling of God
"For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance." (Romans 11:29)
The Apostolic Reformation and rebirth of Apostolic Governance began over 30 years ago with Apostle Eric vonAnderseck. He received his apostolic calling from God in In1977. The 3 videos on this page are linked to his video testimony and prophecies Jesus gave him to give to the church.
The Apostolic Reformation is a rebirth of the apostles office and the reconstruction of the original foundation of truth that the first century apostles taught. The claim of apostleship is established firmly in this grace, to restore the same mystery of Christ and foundation of truth to the Body, as Paul, Peter, John, and Jude also affirmed in all their epistles.
God restored apostolic authority at this time to renew true stewardship to the church to cleanse and prepare believers for the coming of the Lord and to renew them to the altar of Christ. It is the will of God that each believer would again partake of the fulness of Christ and understand how to function in their priesthood. This is the true church.
God is setting the challenge to the church to correct, cleanse, and purify the church. Now is the day of visitation, now it the time of temptation as the church enters into the 3rd day of Hosea's prophecy.
God has also raised up many apostles, prophets, pastors, and teachers with Apostle vonAnderseck, fulfilling the word of the Lord to him, "There shall be a unity that is not feigned and a oneness that shall not be deceitful." The true church has now risen.
God has healed the church and brought believers again into one doctrine, one faith, one Lord Jesus Christ, and one baptism, even as the Spirit of the Lord directed that the church should so be. The restoration of Apostolic Governance is by the divine hand of God as seen in Apostle vonAnderseck's testimony.
Finally, the testimony of calling upon Apostle vonAnderseck's life is a testimony of grace and love, for if Jesus had not loved His church He would not have sent a man as a servant of His grace to be a reprover and healer.
Part 3 of Apostle Eric vonAnderseck's testimony of apostolic calling follows the biblical pattern of signs and wonders accompanying the call of God. Learn how God called him, the signs that accompanied the calling, the revelation of the mystery of Christ, visions, angelic visitations, and prophecy for the church. Join apostle on Part 3 of his testimony of apostolic calling and allow the Spirit of God to lead you in a new way.
Join apostle on Part 4 of his testimony of apostolic calling. Jesus confirms to Apostle vonAnderseck the restoration of the priesthood of the believer. Jesus then leads apostle through a spiritual autopsy of the church and personally shows him the False Religious System. Join apostle on Part 4 of his testimony of apostolic calling. Hear the prophecies Jesus gave him to give to the church and let your heart be stirred.
Join apostle on Part 5 of his testimony of apostolic calling. See why Jesus identifies His apostles as stewards of His grace. In this video Apostle vonAnderseck shares with us his interview with Apostle John of the Bible. Hear the visions, dreams, and prophecies as he received them from Jesus and be a partaker of this blessing that God has prepared for you as He sets forth this challenge to the church.As we would expect, the testimony of God's choosing is filled with angelic visitations, dreams, and visions. This testimony stands in the power of God. For the God of our Lord Jesus Christ has put a SIGN in this calling to bridge the weeks, to take the church from the 6th week to the Second 8th Week. The God of our Lord Jesus Christ has put a WONDER in His selection, that does not stand in the wisdom of man.
The face of Christ is seen in the stewardship of His grace and the manifold wisdom of God. Our Father's visitation of His people, confirming these things is also a manifestation of His grace witnessed by angels and men. A sign that cannot be gainsayed. No pomp or glory of man. No boast of the flesh. But the endurance of the Spirit and long suffering of His WORD has begotten a fruitful vine by the sides of His House and filled the chambers of the soul with good things! The Father does these works!
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Apostles Today Correct the Church
Lee Grady Reforms, Failed Strategies
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
Many leaders are coming forward to day, claiming to be reformers, the apostles of today, claiming that God has commissioned them to shout reform from the root top. One of those reformers is Lee Grady, assistant editor to Charisma Magazine. He believes that the church needs correction and that he is the one to do the correcting.
Grady's 15 point reform runs the usual gamut of complaints from bad theology to bad behavior amongst ministers, from faked anointing to faked callings. What his call for reform lacks is actual reform and credibility.
The Issue of Credibility
Grady used his position as editor and columnist at Charisma to voice his complaints for the past 10 years. He then attempted to use that as a track record on which he would like to base his credibility. However, each set of complaints Grady's Gray voiced failed to reform the church, which means that he is not a credible voice.
Always remember: A complaint is not reform. A complainer is not a corrector. Complaining about what is wrong with the church does not qualify one to correct the church, and submitting the same flawed strategies over and over again doesn't make it effective the next time around.
Who is Qualified to Correct the Church?
The new Apostolic Governance will not come from those who seek for validation through a failed system. The vessel whom God calls will have the knowledge to make and implement change and will have a prophetic voice, speaking the word of God from the bowels of God's grace rather than the chiding frustration of man's carnal nature.
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Definition of Apostle
How do You Define An Apostle?
The changes taking place in the church today is the result of God's direct involvement. The church in being brought in accordance with what had been laid out for apostles in the Bible.
When searching for a clear definition of apostle one does not have to search long before realizing that most show differences in definition of apostle. The standard definition comes from the Oxford Dictionary: "An important early Christian teacher or pioneering missionary."
C. Peter Wagner Definition of Apostle Lacks Substance
C Peter Wagner, founder of The New Apostolic Reformation organization claims to have an insight into the calling of apostle based on what he claims to be experience with the calling. Wagner says, "An apostles is a Christian leader who is gifted, taught, and commissioned by God with the authority to establish the foundational government of the Church. . ."
In his book "The New Apostolic Reformation" Wagner explains in detail the changes he believes are "apostolic". He says, "The more I have studied the New Apostolic Reformation during the past few years, the more convinced I have become that we have a major transformation of Christianity on our hands." Yet when reading his transitional points, the apostolic movement that he is spear heading does nothing more than try to change what is wrong with the current Christian culture while neglecting to give the church what it is clearly missing.
The initiatives that are touted as being "new" is not really new. It is the same wolf in new sheep's clothing. Ask yourself what the Christian religious institutions did for the past 50 years when things did not work well? They tried to change things to make them work better. When Pastors burned out they went on retreats, which really failed to fix what was wrong with their service to the Body of Christ. But now, under the "new apostolic" Pastors are taken to "class" to be taught new things.
It is easy to see that "class" is a reinvention of "retreat". While intended to improve old practices, will not actually change the nature of Pastoral service. Pastor burnout is the result of the education of the current Christian culture. The system is incapable of teaching what it does not know. Proving again that you can change your pants, but that does not change the person in them.
C Peter Wagner further states, "Tithing is taught without apology, and those who do not tithe their incomes are subtly encouraged to evaluate their Christian lives as subpar." This admission tells us clearly that Wagner's definition of apostle is a mixture of the old wine with the new. It tells us further that Wagner does not understand the New Testament teaching that Jesus is now our tithe and that each believer is to offer spiritual sacrifices of prophecy to God.
Which brings us to Wagner's announcement that under his apostolic rule that worship is done differently. In reality, he has failed to reintroduce the believer to his priesthood and has kept the tithe alive. I see in his definitions a need to "do things differently", but I do not see a divine appointment of grace. In the final analysis, while Wagner claims a major transformation of Christianity, I see his reforms as more of the same blight that has crippled the church in the past.
Real Definition of Apostle
So, let's talk about what an apostle really is-from God's point of view. To do that we need to see clearly where the New Apostolic Reformation is taking the church. While they promise changes that are innovative, they cannot take the lead in true apostolic governance of the church.
It will help to see this from another angle. If I asked you to define an electrician you might think about the guy who comes to your house to fix the wiring for the lights. If I asked, What is a plumber, you might think about the guy who comes to your house to fix the plumbing in the kitchen. These definitions come from the need to fix things when they are broken. And if you called a qualified electrician or plumber they would no doubt get the job done right.
An Apostle - Is He a Fix-It Man?
Have you noticed that when it comes to the definition of an apostle, the church is thinking about their need for an apostle from the standpoint of needing to "fix" something that is broken in the church? Things are not going well, things need to change. What can we do? An apostle today has been dubbed a fixer of things.
But, let us consider what Jesus originally had in mind for His apostles. While they certainly were and are the qualified office to fix the church when things go wrong, that was only because they were first of all the holders of the blueprint of truth. They know how to fix things because they worked by the blueprint of truth God gave to them. They know how the believer is to function because they know how truth functions.
No apostle said that they were qualified to fix the problems in the church because they studied the problems for 30 years and wrote books about how to run the church more efficiently.
The Biggest Change Ever
The biggest change ever in the church is occurring right now. As God resets the church to the original foundation of truth we are experiencing the new life that He promised.
Apostle Eric says: The calling of apostle is defined by the measure of grace God gives to that office to teach the doctrine of Christ. The doctrine of Christ is the foundation of truth that must be set in the heart of each believer. This is the pattern we see in the Bible: God gives truth to the apostles and they give that knowledge to the church to believe. Acts 2:42, "And they (the church) continued steadfastly in the apostles doctrine...."
Apostles Today: How To Gage Your Spiritual Growth By Apostolic Stewardship
Straight Talk
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
Apostles today are necessary to gage the spiritual growth of the church. God wants the church to abound and increase in His grace. The true spiritual gage to measure the growth of the church is the apostle's calling.
In the absence of apostles, the church gages growth in ways that are artificial. In ways that point out new things are done differently, but are not producing the likeness of Christ. For example, in his book "The New Apostolic Reformation" C. Peter Wagner reports on 9 specific points by which he gages the purpose of this particular apostolic movement and validates this movement to be of God.
Wagner is in error. The movement he is reporting on is the placebo movement the adversary organized to deceptively move the church in the wrong direction, accepting apostolic authority for the wrong reasons, defining apostles with the wrong definitions. The adversary will give this movement many "new" things to do to make growth seem as if it is happening when in fact it is not.
Take for example, item #6 on Wagner's list: New Prayer. He says, "Prayer in new apostolic churches has taken forms rarely seen in traditional congregations. Some of this takes place within the church and some takes place outside the church." But none of what he describes is new. Prayer and worship has been done thousands of different ways.
Did you know. . .God is not looking for you to do prayer differently, God is restoring the priesthood of all believers to the church and the church is now relearning how to offer spiritual sacrifices of prophecy. This is the natural process of worship when the 12 Elements of the Gospel are the foundation of your faith.
Unity + Gifts = Growth
According to Wagner, Unity + Gifts = Growth. The critical mistake here is that knowledge growth is required for the advancement of any society and that includes the church. Here I am speaking of the 12 Essential Elements of the Gospel. God is taking the church back to learn the ABCs of the covenant. When a body of believers share the same knowledge that God sanctifies they also share the same bond of the Spirit. Now you have knowledge that is empowered by God.
Growth is the natural processes working in the natural environment God created for you to engage with Him. True stewardship brings the people back to abound in the grace of God. "For if these things be in you, and ABOUND, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ." (2Peter 1:8)
Definition of Apostle
Part 1 of 7
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
In my article, Definition of Apostle, I show you how a lack of experience causes leaders to extrapolate from the Greek and Hebrew language their expectations of an apostle. I showed how an overreliance on word study, while ignoring the meat of the subject, leads to speculation.
Extrapulation is Dangerous
The Greek word "apostolos" means "one sent forth". Billy Graham reportedly uses the word apostle in three senses: 1) Apostleship is used in a general sense that all of us are sent into the world by Christ, 2) Apostles s are the messengers sent on particular errands, and 3) The gift of apostleship.
We can see why an extrapolation of the meaning of apostle based on the definition of the Greek word alone is dangerous. When no value is given to what the apostle is teaching no function if given for the apostle other than to evangelize.
What Happens When We Base Our Definition On Observational Data Alone?
We did see the apostles in the early church going from place to place carrying the message of Jesus Christ to convert the sinner to Christ. But this is what scientists would call observational data. If we base our definition on observational data alone our conclusions will be misleading.
What about the scripture that says that the church continued in the doctrine of the apostles (Acts 2:42)? Here we have the opportunity to make another observation, that the church needed to continue past the point of conversion to a way of practice and we see that practice being defined by "doctrine".
We make a mistake to believe that apostles are only sent out to preach the gospel to the lost. How costly is that mistake? Consider that when the new convert needs to begin to practicing his or her new found faith in Jesus Christ, he has no doctrine, which means he has no practice.
One would quickly argue that we have the Bible now and we don't need apostles. But, that is not the pattern God designed for the church, is it? God did not give the church a book to lead them in practice. He gave them leaders called apostles who instructed believers in the practice of their faith.
That being true, consider how ridiculous this leading argument against apostles sounds: "We don't have to know that we are apostles to be sent." Again, if we base our definition on observational data alone our conclusions will be misleading. We can see how misleading this conclusion. It is based only on apostles being "sent ones" and leaves out all other data about them.
You do have to know that you are an apostle to give doctrine to the church, otherwise you have no author to teach. In fact, first job of an apostle is to teach doctrine to the church. Think about what it would be like to bring lost sinners into a church that does not teach or preach the doctrine of Christ correctly. Will that new born believer be able to "continue" in the faith without being able to practice their faith? No.
Apostles must be defined in the church today as they were in the early church by having all the observational data necessary to give the office the proper function with the grace of God.
The Prophetic Utterance
5 Rules to Discern Prophecy
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
"Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein." (Revelation 1:13)
I want to talk about 5 rules to properly discern prophecy, the role apostles today play in giving words of prophecy to the church, and how to guard yourself from false prophets. Following this teaching I will post several of the prophecies God gave to me to give to the church. As you read each prophecy I share with you I want you to see how God is correcting the church and then ask yourself what God wants you to do..
Apostles Today Play an Important Role in the Church
Apostles today do what apostles did in the first century. It is really just that simple. Just as surely as Jesus spoke to the early church through His apostles and prophets so again Jesus is speaking through His apostles today. The reason why I first say that Jesus will speak to the church today through apostles is to isolate the essential ingredient necessary for proper discernment that comes through the apostle's calling.
Doctrine is Important for Discernment
The apostles have the authority to teach doctrine to the church. The prophets, once instructed in the doctrine of Christ can then function in their calling. The apostle and prophet will then both be centered on Christ. The same is true for the other 3 callings, the evangelist, pastor, and teacher. Each office needs to be instructed in the doctrine that Jesus authorized the apostles to teach. Now all 5 callings are centered in Christ, all embracing the same doctrine. Can you see how important doctrine is for discernment?
Rule #1 - Prophets who have not first been instructed in doctrine by apostles today have no authority in the church.
Can You Discern Prophecy if You Do Not Have the Doctrine of Christ?
"If any man have not the doctrine of Christ he is none of His." (2 John 9)
It is often said that the church today is in dire need of discernment. That is because she is in dire need of the one true doctrine of Christ. Wrong-headed leadership attempt to draw doctrine from the pages of the Bible without first being instructed by living apostles. This turns the Word of God into the precept of man. It's a free for all. Everyone is claiming the Holy Ghost is teaching them, but in reality each is drawing from scripture what their imagination sees and needs.
Rule #2 - If you don't have the doctrine of Christ you don't have discernment.
Rule #3 - If your doctrine has not been taught you by living apostles today (qualified and authorized by God) your doctrine is not centered on Christ, it is drawn from the flesh.
The Church Today is in Dire Need of Discernment
The church today is dire need of proper discernment. Everyone is claiming to possess a prophetic word for the church and false prophets have raised up schools to teach the church the false and dangerous art of personal prophecy.
Just as the doctrine of Christ lost its center on Jesus, having found a new center in the flesh, so also prophecy followed the same course. This is first noticed when ministers try to use the gift of discernment to judge prophecy. This tells me that they lost their center.
When the foundation of truth is properly laid in the knowledge of the 12 Elements of the Gospel faith is properly centered on Jesus Christ and all prophecy is judged from that point. Lacking that firm standing in Christ a Christian has to weigh prophecy on a different scale other than truth.
Let's see how the church is made to rely on subjective practices:
1. It does not sit right with my spirit.
2. I am getting a red light.
3. That may be for you, but it is not for me.
4. Let me put that on the shelf for a while to see what God speaks to me.
This error of using the gift of discernment to discern prophecy means that truth is not being engaged properly.
Rule #4 - If your doctrine has not been taught you by living apostles today your discernment is subjective.
Evaluating a word of prophecy involves these 4 things:
1. The integrity of Jesus Christ. Does the word follow the record of Jesus Christ or the record of man?
2. Is the prophecy a level one prophecy which comes through the priesthood of each believer or is it a level two prophecy that comes through the gift of the Spirit?
3. Who is bringing forth the word? Have they been established in the Word, is the foundation of truth set properly in their hearts to assist them to discern between the record of man and the record of Jesus Christ?
4. How credible is the vessel, do they speak from the aspiration of man or from the grace of God?
Rule #5 - If your faith loses the integrity of Christ so does your discernment.
How To Guard Yourself From False Prophets
It is simple to guard yourself from the manipulation of false prophets who prey upon the ignorance of believers. You'll need to build the foundation of truth in your heart. The foundation of the 12 Elements of the Gospel.
Apostles Today are God's Voice - 01
1981 Prophecy
True apostles are God's voice to His church today. To hear the voice of God, one must hear His stewards of grace. Below is the word of the Lord that came to me for the church in 1981. I encourage you take these words and allow God to search your heart and break down the barriers of tradition.Prophecy to the Church - 1981
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
Shall man indeed contend with God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, the glory of the whole earth; Who anoints His prophets with words and their fingers with loving kindness; Who feeds the mouths of the hungry and brings out of prison the seekers of light;
Who chides with the wicked and makes them small as the dust, as the dust before the wind. For He endured our sufferings and was despised of man; being clothed in flesh, He was among us.
Who opens doors that no hand may touch and delivers those who trust in Him. Touch not My servants, declares the Most High. Believe My prophets and so shall you prosper.
He gives of His fruit that we might be filled and multiplies it to our taste. Selah~
Blessed are they that trust in Him, for the Lord shall cloth them with majesty and crown them with crowns of gold. They shall dwell in His presence and his kingdom shall have no end. Praise ye the Lord.
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The video preaching below "Apostles Today" will assist you further to learn the ways of the Lord anew. Let these words sink down in your ears and know that God has called you for a time such as this to set aside your former education and begin to build anew with the Spirit.
Apostles Today are God's Voice - 02
1982 Prophecy
There is a reason why God's stewards are called "the eyes of the church". The eye of the body is for sight and sight speaks of discernment, and discernment speaks of truth. You cannot walk in error and say you are the eyes of the church. That does not make sense.In this prophecy Jesus speaks of:
1. purging His church,
2. Establishing a new house
3. Giving light (truth) back to the body,
4. Choosing those who will perform this task of giving sight back to the Body.
5. How He will prosper His work.
Prophecy to the Church - March 1982
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
Yea, saith the Lord, I am purging My church by the Spirit of burning. Yes, by My spirit, saith the Lord; And the house of David shall be established. Those that are in the light shall see it and My government shall be established. Those that see shall understand, for the Lord shall set His heavenly ones to guide and His dignities to help His people.
It shall be those whom He has called and whom He has chosen that shall perform this. For My grace shall be upon them and this hid treasure shall be found by those that walk in the light. They shall partake of My treasure and many shall be fed and shall prosper.
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Video preaching "Stewardship, the Eyes of the Church" by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck of Second 8th Week Ministries will help you understand why God is calling apostles today and why it is necessary that you know who they are. Apostles today cannot give sight to the church if they are to remain anonymous.
Apostles Today are God's Voice - 03
1982 (2) Prophecy
Let's take a look at what God revealed in this 1982 prophecy about Apostles today. God announced in 1982 that He is:1. restoring the neglected offices in the Body,
2. the Body of Christ will mature, having discarded the doctrine of man,
3. many chief ones will be ashamed as God points out to them their carnality,
4. His true apostles will not bend to the flattery of the unjust,
5. God will confound those of the current Christian culture, revealing that their wisdom was foolishness.
6. Jesus ANNOUNCES to His church - "There shall be a unity that shall not be feigned and a oneness that will not be deceitful."
Prophecy to the Church - 1982
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
The Lord is building up the waste places. That is, the neglected and overlooked
offices in the Body of Christ in order to properly structure His divine government.
By His Spirit He is placing the stones that are fitly cut to fit secure and casting off the
self appointed stones into the pile of dishonor.
The Body of Christ will then proceed in their growth unto a mature man in Christ and not in the image and doctrine of man. This will come about as the offices of the apostle and prophet are beginning to function as the Lord purposed in the early church.
Darkness will not perceive and the disobedient will gainsay the pleasure of the Lord.
Many chief ones will see and be ashamed of their carnality. And those that lack discernment shall cry out in fear.
The delights of the Lord shall prevail and prosper and will not feed nor shall it court
the desires of those chief ones that flatter themselves in their prosperity, or pride themselves in their security.
The monuments of success shall be ashamed and the gray haired confounded at the wisdom of the Lord.
The wise hearted shall be as the unlearned and the popular of no value before the gold of the Most High.
Prestige of the high ones shall be weighed in the balance and shall be lighter than vanity; And the fruits of achievement as the dust before the wind and before the knowledge of the Lord and His anointed ones.
Understanding shall arise out of obscurity and enlightenment out of confusion. There shall be a unity that shall not be feigned and a oneness that will not be deceitful.
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The video preaching by Apostle John Welty of Second 8th Week Ministries will bless you as he sets in order the knowledge of God for your transition from the current Christian culture to the covenant faith of Jesus Christ.
Apostles Today are God's Voice - 04
1983 Prophecy
In this prophecy God is heard to chastise the church to remove from the heart these buried areas of excuse where Satan tries to hide. He is heard to say:1. Is my voice too hard for you to hear that you say, "I did not know!"
2. Are my paths in darkness? I see you stumbling and falling.
3. Am I abominable that you continue to grope in the dark to find your own way?
4. You have defiled my temple. . .I will shoot my arrows at you until you are consume.
5. I will judge you now for the strange incense you brought into My house.
6. You flatter yourself in your own doctrine and cast my words aside.
7. If you will seek unto me and put away pride, I will forgive.
Prophecy to the Church 1983
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
Are My ways obscure that you cannot know them, saith the Lord, or are My paths in darkness that you stumble and fall and are taken in the snare?
Are not My ways in Righteousness and my paths Light?
Why do you delight in your own ways and what honor do you seek that your heart is turned from Me?
Am I abominable that you feel after another and grope for the wall of your own ways? Shall I not require these things of your hand as I required of the children of Israel?
I shall surely set you as a mark and I will shoot My arrows at you till you are consumed. They that defile My temple and bring strange incense which I have not spoken of nor required shall be judged, for I am a consuming fire.
Yet you flatter yourselves in your doctrine and cast My ordinance aside for a gift. You say of yourselves, the Lord has spoken, when I was silent, and built a house that I was not aware of.
Are these things hid from your eyes, or is My speech contemptible that you discern Me as you would judge a man by his appearance?
If you will seek unto Me and put away pride and speak the truth to your neighbor, and hide the right hand of covetousness from Me.
Will I not hear and forgive your trespasses and cause the fruit of My kingdom to grow out of desolate places?
But if you forbear to hear Me and cast a mount against My words, I will destroy your confidence and break down your wall and slay with the sword of My mouth. For you stand in slippery places. Seek unto Me and I will clothe you with garments and put My righteousness in your inward parts.
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The video preaching by Apostle John Welty of Second 8th Week Ministries will bless you as he sets in order the knowledge of God for your transition from the current Christian culture to the covenant faith of Jesus Christ.
Apostles Today are God's Voice - 05
1983 (2) Prophecy
Apostles today are the credible voice of God to the people. In this prophecy the Lord addresses the church and her love of precept and line in place of love of God. We read in Isaiah 28:13, "But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.Jesus said, "Search the scriptures; for in them you think you have eternal life; and they are they which testify of Me. And you will not come to Me, that you might have life." (John 5:39-40).
Jesus challenges the current Christian culture:
1. My Word is Spirit and not the pulp of man!
2. You follow the voice of your understanding.
3. You rejoice in the works of your own hands!
4. My Word is the Bread of Life and My ink is the blood of the vine and My covenant no man disannuls.
5. Jesus warms, "I shall destroy your confidence, which is the paper, which is the pulp of the stock of a tree, and its labors, which you worship."
Prophecy to the Church 1983 (2)
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
Yea, saith the Lord, I Am Spirit and not wood. I Am the Creator, and not the work of men's hands. What is this idol of yours that you confess to be Me?
My word is unto you as the pulp of wood, the stock of a tree which a man cut down, and inscribed My words with the oil of ink.
My Righteousness in not wood. My Righteousness I impute to them that hear My voice. My word is Spirit and not the pulp of man.
You also rejoice in the labors of your hands and follow the voice of your understanding. You cry unto the tree "speak to me and I will obey."
And its answer is the voice of a man and its reward is to be burned as the wood which you rejoice in, saith the Lord. But My ways are higher than the tops of the trees and My voice endures longer than the life thereof.
My word is the Bread of Life and My ink is the Blood of the vine and My Covenant no man disannuls; nor does the fire consume My labor.
For they that are led by My Spirit are My children and they are My labor and they are as the precious metals of the earth, yea, gold, and silver, and the rubies and the diamonds. Eat of Me saith the Lord, for I Am the life. But they that devour the pulp shall be devoured; And they that drink the oil of ink shall die by its poison.
And I shall destroy your confidence, which is the paper, which is the pulp of the stock of a tree, and its labors, which you worship. I Am the Lord, and not ink and paper. I Am the Lord, I Am Spirit and they that drink and eat of Me shall not perish, saith the Lord.
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The video below is a beautiful reading of the prophecies given to Apostle Eric vonAnderseck, put to music. The Spirit of the Lord overseeing the fulfillment of His plan spoke about 20 plus years ago informing the Church of the transition which is happening today. God in His long suffering towards His people laid down a good foundation for the time to come. Reflecting upon these things will increase your faith to see clearly the day of visitation is happening now.
All those that share in this bread will be saved from the wrath to come. For the Lord is separating the sheep from the goats manifesting the hearts of many and setting a difference between the Jacob Christian and the Esau Christian.
The Jacob Christian carries the covenant traditions of separation from the world while the Esau Christian builds his own house with strange wives and seeks independence from stewardship despising the birthright of faith. Listen to the Word of the Lord and examine yourself whether you are in the true faith of Jesus Christ.
Apostles Today are God's Voice - 06
1984 Prophecy
God is setting the church in order. That is why the church leaders need apostles today. Current leadership has failed to set themselves in order. The Lord's rebuke is heard in the prophecy below. God addresses:1. the idols in the church,
2. the table at which the church has been eating,
3. church leadership's pride to teach God wisdom,
4. church leadership devours young Christians.
5. church leaders are not innocent,
6. church leaders anger,
7. church leaders speaking in the name of God their own mind,
8. church leaders following their lust.
Prophecy to the Church 1984
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
Yea, saith the Lord, abominations reside within My House, and its inhabitants practice them skillfully.
What are these idols that you adhere to, to hear My words saith the Lord? My servant whom I sent reports, Yea My Spirit makes search, and declares that My people seduce the innocent and takes delight in her whoredoms and thinks as the fool thinks, saith the Lord.
For you take the simple-minded in your craftiness and you drink of the table of the uncircumcised. Shall you direct My ways, saith the Lord? Are you My counselor that I wait at your gates to receive your wisdom? You build and rejoice as those that defile themselves with strong drink and you roll in your own vomit proudly.
I have searched and the witness is true. The harvest of your labors is vain and those that you have gathered into your barn the rodent devours, and those that escape the rodents, the mildew devours, and those that escape the mildew you devour with your labors of your business.
What are these things unto Me, saith the Lord, when your fruit is as the wild trees which the frost has damaged? My ways are not hid, but you grope for the Me as the blind the wall.
Also My servant says that you have chosen you a leader and made him your king. Even when your mouths I have filled, you declare another whom I have not chosen.
Are you angry at Me because I tell you the truth? Will you indeed turn your nose in innocence? You violate My ordinances and scribble laws that are foreign to Me, and say, "The Lord says," when I was unaware of your doings.
You measure Me according to the measure of a man whom I have created and you have lost yourselves in your labors.
Those that were dying you lightly regarded and pushed aside others that you may fill your lust. The ways old have you carefully preserved and the traditions of the past you purchase and display as a store displays its wares. But I will buy none of your wares, for they be traditions of treachery and blood and strifes, as a cloth that is dyed to suit its bearer.
The Spirit says that you look for vices that fill the soul as a man draws his last breath. You seek these thing from afar and commune with those that do the same. But I AM He that stands near and not afar off and you regard My presents as offensive.
But every knee shall bow to the Son of God. For the way of life has become the road to death to many that pass by the way. Yea the road is full of carcasses. My way is life. Turn not aside at the cries of the disobedience that consume your soul with delights. Walk in My ways, for I am come to bring life. I am come to bring you out of darkness, saith the Lord.
Apostles Today are God's Voice - 06
1985 Prophecy
Definition of Apostle: Although there are many definitions of apostle floating around in the church today, it is the grace that marks the calling, and grace is the voice of the Lord. The voice of the Lord is heard in two ways through the apostle:1. God desires that your knowledge of Jesus Christ be set in order. Knowledge that is not set in order is not profitable for the soul. We can see that is true in the natural world when order is set to a pile of wood to make a house. -Apostles today set order to the knowledge of Christ just as they did in the book of Acts.
2. God desires to speak words of reprove to the church to correct believes in their thinking. Satan's perversion of God's truth was embraced for so long that believers are strangers to the truth. -Apostles Today are God's voice of reprove to the church.
Grace is a stone of knowledge in the Master's hand. It favors not the appetite of man nor will it court man's favor.
Grace is the voice of God in the mouth of His stewards to build faith by the stones of His knowledge in the image of Christ; to bring reproof and correction that the church may again be clothed in the garments of Christ's righteousness. The prophecy below was given to Apostle Eric vonAnderseck in 1985 for our time, to make known to the church that she has strayed from Jesus. These are the things that Jesus is pointing out to the church today:
1. His house is full of abominations
2. His children practice the whoredoms of the world
3. His love for His church
4. His need to clean His house
5. His power to clothe the church again in white
Prophecy to the Church 5
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
My house is full of abominations and My children practice whoredoms with the world.
For I have espoused her to one husband, yet she leaves me to prosper in her lewd ways.
She loves My name and takes residence in My house and uses Me for a covering.
Yet because of My great love for her I protected and fed her with goodness
and gave her gifts of confidence. But because of these she has hardened herself in her iniquity. In her sin she wears the band and shows no shame. Shall I forbear to chastise her for these things, saith the Lord?
The children of her whoredoms are more than I can bear and strange flesh is in My house and bears My name. I watched over her for good though her delights were not towards Me, even when I prospered her.
But now shall I prosper her to evil till she be consumed in her ways. She purchases for
her children things that shall not endure.
Yet if she repents and turns to Me, shall I not show mercy towards her? Shall I not love again the wife of My espousals?
But I must clean My house of the children of uncleanness and rid My house of the strange seed of her sins. Then shall I restore her to honor and to the beauty that I shall rejoice in. And bestow My loves upon her as at the first when our love was young; and shall produce afresh many gifts of confidence.
And she shall not be ashamed and I shall forgive her; for she shall walk with Me in garments of white and not bear My name for her own gain, but to My glory, saith the Lord.
Apostles Today: Leprosy of Old Theology: Apostolic Reform
Skull Fragments in the Church Cemetery
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
When Charismatic leaders began to drift again into another journey to find more substance for their failing religious experiences, they found the neighbor's living room either too crowded or judged them as failing to provide more of Jesus, so they began to dig for their roots.
Some going through attic boxes to give them a boost of confidence and some digging through the cemeteries of generations past, each looking for the elusive clues to haunting questions: How did they remain faithful to Jesus, how did they get their prayers answered, how did they attract the crowds, what was the secret to their humility? Armed with new information Christians pieced together from what they considered to be "best authors" a series of commentaries to present a new face to the world. They painted a self-portrait of the Gospel of Jesus Christ from the contaminated relics of the past.
Not aware of their defilement these seekers of answers feel compelled to have others share in their discovery. But a disease was in those remains. The virus that caused church-blindness 50 years ago was now spreading again through sincere believers. Every page of a new found book was a fretting leprosy carrying a mixture of many hybrid beliefs.
Let Us Return: Denominational House Warming
Some thought the old was better and renewed those old relationships among those that just a few years ago they called anathema. Some started their own churches, and some loved Jesus their own way and cast all groups into the legalistic pot of stew.
The giant had fallen into a slumber and reformists were prophesying correction and renewal.
This was not all in vain, for the Lord, after the rain was now looking for those new plants to sprout.
God Had Cast His Net
We can see the wisdom of God in how events began to play out in those many groups and that God was now seeking someone to tend His garden. For He planted a garden and brought the man to the garden to tend it.
But as time passed the field became a forest of many trees, some fruit bearing trees and some trees for the fire. Here we see the patience of the Lord
An Outpouring-Cleansing-Separation
To receive the reward we must play by the rules. Not the rules of works, but the rules of His righteousness and labour of faith and charity.
Reform develops as it goes through a process beginning with the divine calling of His stewardship. By this the church begins to understand the value of the Voice of the Lord and learn His fear as God next initiates the responsibilities of the individual priesthood of each believer.
The priesthood must be sanctified by the voice of the Lord through the steward as we see in the history of His plan.
Jesus selected His apostles, the number of them being 12 to confirm the promises and the sign of transition from the priesthood given and confirmed by Isaac to Levi the son of Jacob.
Today's Warning For 2012
December 2011 Charisma Magazine: Chuck Pierce: Break Old Cycles for 2012
Chuck Pierce says: "Ask God for signs, wonders and miracles that will intervene in old cyclical structures of your life."
Apostle Eric says: Today God has indeed chosen a sign, not to confirm the transition from Moses to Jesus as we see in the first century church , but to carry that of the faith of Abraham who was selected of God to begin another new season and Enochian Week.
Unfortunately, the attention of today's Bible students is to re-enact the experiences of the book of Acts. Looking to validate God's divine presence in their faith they call those re- enactments "divine inspiration" and to accept them as the eyes of their discernment when judging the new and strange work of the Lord. And thus cast off the work of Christ.
Instead of beginning in Jerusalem to the ends of the earth, God's true reform is beginning from the ends of the earth and will end in Jerusalem for the completion of the church age.
The True Sign is in the Grace of God
The true sign is in the grace of God, even as God called Abraham to begin a new kingdom where righteousness dwells. God began a true family tradition of covenant faith and not ethnic race.
"For the Lord shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his STRANGE work; and bring to pass his act, his STRANGE act." ( Isaiah 28: 21)
1. Those that refused Noah's preaching and his stewardship (Ark) died in the flood.
2. Those that refused Moses' preaching and his stewardship (tabernacle) perished in the wilderness.
3. Those that refused David's preaching and his stewardship (Pattern of the temple) were separated from Judah to Baal and scattered abroad.
4. Those that refused Christ and His apostles preaching and stewardship (church) were scattered and plagued.
5. Those that refuse the apostolic reform today and its message of stewardship (renewal of the church) will face the great tribulation.
Learn your history and prepare your heart for this is the day of visitation and the hour of temptation for the world and the church.
Wash Those Hands of Tradition of Man
"Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. CLEANSE your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded." (James 4:8)
Those that follow the voice of the world will not hear the voice of God in what the Lord is doing in His strange work to wash the church of its leprosy and to restore true faith in the heart from all those writings of error that many stored in attic. "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches."
Apostles Today: False Sense of Security: Apostolic Reform
Grady Issues: Reform or Evangelism
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
December 2011
Newsletters: A Word for 2012
Lee Grady says: "I'm actually optimistic about where we're headed in 2012. And as I have prayed about the coming year, I've sensed these three clear directives:"
Apostle Eric says:I want to first talk about Grady's "sense/clear" directive # 2 - "The sound of evangelism must be amplified".
What umbrella is Grady standing under? For he took upon himself to address church reform just a few months ago and now, failing to reform the church, he re-directs the church's attention to go out and convert sinners. How can this be productive evangelism to convert sinners to become members of a church that needs reform?
It's like inviting all the people of your good community to a party in a leper colony. What gospel will those zealous Bible students preach? The teachings of their traditional institutions or the covenant of Jesus Christ.
The Problem is. . . If you preach the gospel of the current Christian culture you are bringing them into a church that cannot disciple believers. God is not a God of confusion. He will not bring lost souls into a church that will devour them with false doctrine.
How Old and How Deep Are The Roots of Church Reform?
The late Bill Bright, founder of the well-known Campus Crusade for Christ, famed for evangelism, spent over 50 years building and leading an organization geared towards evangelism. Towards the end of his ministry he wrote:
"In the process of counseling and interacting with tens of thousands of students, laymen, and pastors year after year since 1951, our staff have discovered that
1. Many church members (including people from churches which honor our Lord and faithfully teach His Word) are not sure of their salvation;
2. The average Christian is living a defeated and frustrated life; and
3. The average Christian does not know how to share his faith effectively with others."
In the above report, we have what is called results-based evidence that the current Christian culture is not capable of sustaining converts because they cannot disciple believers in the faith.
Those counseled by Bright's trained ministerial staff had access to the best the Christian culture had to offer. From the books like The Kingdom of Cults by Dr. Walter Martin, or E.W. Kenyon's New Creation Realities that found their way into Grady's attic to current authors such as Joyce Meyer and Billy Graham.
We have the results of fifty years of exposure to countless pieces of information about faith, the devil, how-to win the battle of the mind, how-to find a deeper walk with God, how-to loose God's power, how-to bind the devil, how-to worship, that did not empower believers. The result of 50 years of teaching is that "The average Christian is living a defeated and frustrated life".
If you preach the gospel of the current Christian culture you will condemning converts to live the same lie as yourself, you will be condemning them to the same struggle the church has not been able to overcome.
Grady says: "I've sensed these three clear directives:" The word "sense" and the word "clear" have no business being in the same sentence. They contradict each other. How can a revelation be clear in the fog of your imagination? Shall the whole church pursue a revelation that is not clear? Do we trust a blindfolded person to give clear direction?
Did Moses hear the cracking burning camp fires on the back side of the desert and sense he heard the voice of the Lord? There was no straining of Moses' ears to hear God, neither was there any straining of my ears when the Lord spoke to me about my calling to the apostle's office. I did not sense it. It was told to me by God.
- Did Noah sense that he should build the ark or did God tell him?
- Did Samuel sense that David was chosen of God or did God tell him?
- Did Jesus sense he was the Son of God, or did He know clearly the mind of God?
The use of the word sense is both irresponsible and inappropriate for one who claims to give clear direction to the church.
Grady's Optimism: "I actually optimistic about where we're headed in 2012." The Oxford English Dictionary defines optimism as having "hopefulness and confidence about the future or successful outcome of something; a tendency to take a favourable or hopeful view."
Let's disambiguate optimism and faith. Optimism is a mix of positive feelings based on what you hope will happen. Faith on the other hand is a positive response to the grace of God. Faith is the 2nd of 12 essential Elements of the Gospel. God reveals Christ for the reciprocation of our faith.
When grace (revelation) is guess work ("I sensed") then faith is equally a guesswork ("I don't know what to believe").
Grady explains: " 2012 is not about a presidential contest. Just as David was prepared for the throne during years of testing in the wilderness, a new battalion of Christian leaders has been trained in obscurity. They will be commissioned and appointed in the new year. And their influence-not that of a political figure-will shift the nation."
Apostle Eric says: God has been saying these words for over 30 years, that there is a transition that He is birthing from outside the current Christian culture, a transition of doctrine to restore the church to the purity of Christ. But the revelation is not to them which stand in doubt, for they have sweetened the word with the sugar of aspiration to make it more appealing to their religious taste buds.
2 Kings 7:1-2
1 Then Elisha said, Hear ye the word of the Lord; Thus saith the Lord, Tomorrow about this time shall a measure of fine flour be sold for a shekel, and two measures of barley for a shekel, in the gate of Samaria.
2 Then a lord on whose hand the king leaned answered the man of God, and said, Behold, if the Lord would make windows in heaven, might this thing be? And he said, Behold, thou shalt see it with thine eyes, but shalt not eat thereof.
God is Not Addressing the House of Baal
God is not addressing the House of Baal, for the Lord is drawing out from that House those that are of pure heart. As Jesus said upon seeing Nathaniel "behold an Israelite indeed in whom is no guile!"
There were many curious seekers in those days and religiously dedicated people, but Nathaniel was a believer who followed grace and not the traditional aspirations of man. Such is the case today. Are you a Nathaniel or a scribe of the temple?
John the Baptist: There are those as John the Baptist who God prepared in "obscurity". But the system only challenged this man on the scales of their own traditions. They set the grounds to approve of John's preaching in the things God was challenging for change and so withdrew their approval and denied themselves the benefit of the steward God sent to them.
Jesus Christ: Jesus knew the voice of His Father and the witness of His grace, but others hearing the same voice said, "It thundered" as this revelation was very dull to their ears; They were not sure.
The Religious Pied Piper: The religious Pied Piper did two things. He did rid the town of rats, and also took their children for his wage.
The False Religious System promises to cleanse itself or clean up their act, which they did not do. They refused the sanctified stewardship God sent, they worked to take the people of God captive again, and now threaten to spread the net of deceit again to take more captives for Satan (what they call evangelism).
You Cannot Heal Yourself: Even those under the law knew that they must go to the priest to confirm any plague of leprosy, they could not diagnose themselves. But the church wants to 'self diagnose ' and write out their own prescriptions to treat their own errors. Sorry, God will not comply to your self-effort-remedies.
As the world continues to fall head-long into greater despair we see the blind church attempting to lead the blind sinner. Grady speaks of his zeal, but with no results. Lot did not bring reform to Sodom nor will the church bring world reform, but God will bring the church to perfection by His Spirit in this elected time.
Apostles Today - Teaches the Church Which Voice Is God
It's Time to Call a Spade a Spade
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
It can be confusing with so many voices claiming to be the voice of God. This 'voice' is considered to be many things by many Christians. Some claim the voice of God gives them "insight" while others claim the voice of God is giving direction. But the church is still, poor, blind, wretched, and miserable.
It's Time to Call a Spade a Spade
It's time to call a spade a spade. We know it is the spirit of this world that is speaking and not the Spirit of God. The 'voice' of the spirit of this world is easy to discern as it always carries the institutional biases of the current Christian culture.
The spirit of this world speaks of the passions of faith with knowledge that is ambiguous and void of the wisdom of God. For the hearers of the world speak of the world and the world hears them. What does this mean? It means that the language of the flesh is the same in every culture except the culture of God. The language of the flesh confirms the rhythm of the nature of man and reflects that knowledge. It speaks to the needs and desires of the soul but cannot fill that void.
If you are speaking the language of the flesh how can you hear the voice of God, for God does not speak the language of the flesh, He speaks a different language.
The Spirit of This World -- The Challenge on the Grounds of Logic
When the gospel is preached in this spirit it draws upon the needs of man and even challenges his logic to be better as in Adam's case when the Serpent used knowledge and the name of God to challenge Adam's present circumstances for improvement.
The Spirit of God - Draws the Soul by Grace and Truth
But when the soul is drawn by grace and truth the conscience responds in faith and God confirms this reaction with His witness and Seal. Many church going people struggle with spiritual things because their conversion was not set within the right environment for the reciprocation of faith.
They were instructed rather to pursue religious virtues by the challenging of the text hoping that transference of experience would take place confirming their efforts as noble and acceptable to God. That is what the Pharisees did with the Law of Moses. They sought the letter to transform the soul. We can understand the zealous, unreasonable drive they had to persecute Jesus who stood in the light of another kingdom. And we can understand that as the Pharisees increased their application of the letter their zeal increased.
Let's Call a Spade a Spade
The imagination is not the grace of God. When a person speaks the language of the flesh the imagination plays the role as the mediator in place of faith and passions are incited by this spirit. As religious passions are excited a false form of justification takes place and it is sensed that God smiled at your sincerity.
Truth challenges this spade of the imaginary salvation by exposing the heart with reproof of truth. This is where the offended party says, "Do not judge me!" The nakedness of the conscience is communicated in their wretchedness, as they now feel adrift from God. But those feelings they experience is the untethering of the imagination from the shadows of church tradition, which, if repentance followed so would a new tethering take place.
The Spade -- Psychology and the Ministers of Unrighteousness
When the soul is void of substance the unconverted believer will resource knowledge that seems to feed the soul but only addresses the struggle. They feel a confirmation in themselves about the struggle. They call this confirmation God speaking to them, but it is the spirit of this world giving witness to man.
The witness of man being in rhythm with the signature which weighs all knowledge by this spirit will also try to weigh truth by this process. Do you see the danger? This spirit will not comply to truth but rather challenge its source, environment, vessel, and confirmations of man.
The False Anointing Plays Tricks In The Mind
In other words the spirit of this world will always seek mans confirmation to dissolve its doubts. Grace is foreign to their experience even though they claim it for themselves. Unfortunately, it is Satan's false grace that is seen and felt. Seducing spirits will enter their imaginations about Jesus through their drive to feel worthy of God.
To these unconverted believers the anointing of God is set within the psychology of a ministry and so they seek the experience through those they admire and even call them the servants of the Lord. But the apostles set the anointing in truth where the vessel can only obtain this experience by following the sanctified pattern for it.
Apostles Today: Remove The Roots of Probabilities
God's Apostles Challenge the Stockholm Syndrome
by Apostle Eric vonAnderseck
Second 8th Week Ministries<
The Challenge of Transition
The transition of the church to apostolic governance faces a specific challenge that I want to speak to you about. The challenge concerns how the church has grown dependent upon the roots of their tradition. All religious traditions have their roots in the mind and these roots run deep. The longer a tree stands, the deeper the roots. The longer you have eaten at the table of the False Religious System (the current Christian culture), the deeper the roots of tradition.
Just as the roots of a tree are not seen, the dangerous ties to religious tradition is not seen. How will you respond to God's challenge? Will you defend yourself and the traditions you are accustomed to?
I have seen quite often what a believer does in response to God's challenge. They go through a check list of sorts to count out the ways in which they tell themselves and others that they are ok.
It is quite natural for Christians to measure their faithfulness by their emotions and passion and zeal for God or by the sacrifices they make. But the conviction is there. It is something they just can't shake off.
So if it is the will of God to transition the church and He has been speaking to the church for a long time, stretching out His hand to her, why are Christians hesitant to transition? Why do they make excuses to avoid making the changes God is calling for, and at times outright deny the need to leave the house of Baal?
Stockholm Syndrome
I would like to share a word of knowledge received by Evangelist Melissa: "Stockholm Syndrome". You may be familiar with it. Originally termed by a psychiatrist to help the management of hostage situations, it describes the psychological phenomenon in which a captive emotionally bonds with his/her captor. Empathy to the plight, situation, and needs of the captor leads to feelings of loyalty, which leads to the need to defend them. If their captor does not physically harm them this act is mistaken for kindness, which they feel they need to reciprocate.
What is the Lord saying to the church? Satan is the captor. He held you captive to the tradition of man. Our Lord knows that you have emotional attachments and ties to the traditions that were planted in your heart and mind and He understands that you are sympathetic towards those who brought you up in the knowledge that He is now showing you needs to be put off.
Apostles today challenge the Stockholm Syndrome by giving believers education that will help them through the transition.
The Roots of Deception are Deep
God will not change His mind about the transition of the church from the knowledge of Satan to the knowledge of God, from the house of Baal to the house of Jesus Christ. The beginning of a season of change is never a comfortable place to be in, so when God starts pulling at those roots you are going to feel a bit uncomfortable.
* The imagination is still working hard to resolve your doubts about where you stand and why God is doing this and you are wondering if you can trust Him.
* Your logic is still working hard trying to fit all the pieces together in a way that makes sense to you before you take the first step.
Did you know. . .God will give you knowledge for faith. When your mind reasons with grace He will add to your understand to give you insight into His heart. In the time of doubt, don't lean to your logic, lean to His grace.
God Has Drawn a Line in the Sand
Satan rules the thinking of the carnal minded by measuring your reality with the present circumstances to the favourable outcome of tomorrow. But God has not and will not concur with the imagination to resolve doubts to allow the logic to rule in place of faith.
From the Garden of Eden to the steps of the temple the pattern of deception has taken mankind down the same path. Satan says, Look at your present circumstances to see your future reality.
The Ghosts of Probabilities
It was not logical for God to lead the children of Israel into the wilderness where they would have nothing to eat or drink. But God knew He was taking His people through a transition from the bondage of Egypt to the Promised Land.
Moses was blamed for their suffering and accused of being sighted. The people challenged God. . .How can God feed this multitude? The logic of the people saw this contradiction and they began to weigh the probabilities. Why? Because they were looking for a favourable outcome. If I am fed and can see that the probabilities are in my favor then I can accept that this journey is of God. But if I cannot see a favorable outcome than I am packing my bags and heading back to Pharaoh and his idols. I may have been in bondage, but I knew what to expect.
This is a good lesson for you to reflect upon when you make the transition back to the true faith of Jesus Christ. Are you ready to bolt and make a bee line back to the house of Baal when your logic cannot predict for you a favorable outcome or are you going to allow God to assist you through the transition? You know, there is nothing quite as spectacular as watching God teach a young saint to walk in faith. Once they begin to experience God's grace and peace they begin to lose their grip on the old traditions and an excitement sets in regarding God's provision. He always increases the understanding by grace.
The "What-If'ers"
The "What-If'ers" are full of questions. What if this- and what if that. These are those wonderful doubters that seem to always be present when the stewardship issues guidance to the church. They feel their questions of outcome are worthy of good logic. They even boast of their sternness as if it is sound reason and that they show a sound mind not believe everything the Spirit gives through His government. Standing aloof to prove individuality.
But doubt is not faith and their provocation is not logic but fear and their independence is a search for themselves, which they can only truly find in Christ.
The "What-If'ers" doubt that God is going to perform His will. This is also what Satan revealed about his own heart, that he did not believe that he would receive anything that God promised him and so he sows this doubt and discontent and independence in the minds of men.
The "What-If'ers will never bring to the table the abundance of wisdom, knowledge, and understanding that characterizes time spent with the grace of God. They cannot come back to you with an increase of understanding, so instead of the sweet grapes gathered by fellowship with God they come back with the bitter grapes produced by the ground of logic.
The "What-If'ers feel so competent in their questions that they refuse to move. This describes the stout hearted not the heart that is made soft by grace. Asking questions is not showing great in-depth wisdom. Wisdom gives direction, but questions exhibit a demand and explanations for their approval. This is what Korah did to Moses , not sowing confidence of faith but to ruin Moses' credibility in the sight of the people so that Korah could offer his advice and as something that was in good standing with God.
The journey of the Doubter is one that you must never make. The Doubter begins his journey with doubt, which progresses to double mindedness, which progresses to sedition.
The Error of Logic
Anyone can throw out a challenge or sow a criticism against spiritual government, but that practice is not approved of God. Unity is not found in doubt. For those of this spirit remain lawless to divine oversight except when they are seated on the "throne."
"Is it a small thing that thou hast brought us up out of a land that floweth with milk and honey, to kill us in the wilderness, except thou make thyself ALTOGETHER A PRINCE over us?" (Numbers 16:13)
Fear Not the Circumstances!
Anyone can recall text for confidence, but the Spirit is the One who communicates through his government the direction of the church. We see this history repeating itself over and over again with each transition.
As God spoke to Abraham so did He say to His disciples, "Fear not!" Don't assess My abilities by the perspective of your previous experiences of life. For traditional religion stays within the safety of the current culture of Christianity, saying and doing only those things that are made acceptable by tradition.
The Fear Of Error Will Not Protect You From Error
There are many ways in which those who have been impaired by Satan band together to survive God's challenge and the hour of temptation. One of those ways is through apologetics. Apologetics is a way in which the logic of one is allowed to war against the logic of another. These skirmishes serve to defend doctrinal territory gained, to gain new territory or to show off the logic one possesses. Apologists challenge each other to duels in which their mind imagines that their logic is a fearsome weapon and that they can wield the sword of their logic skilfully as the knights of old.
Those that affirm themselves by their own brand of apologetics do so because they stand in doubt of their faith, not because they want to exhibit the strength of their faith. They wish to find validation for the doctrinal traditions they previously accepted as truth. When the contrary is present they feel uncertain of the position they first argued and they will challenge what they don't understand and for good measure say, "It is of the devil!"
The only shield you have against error is the anointing found in the sacrifices of your charity in your daily priesthood. The apostles are the refuge for your faith.
Apostles Today Poll
What do you Believe?
Many challenge the calling of apostle today because it was inconceivable that Jesus could repeat what He did in the early church - call apostles as stewards of His grace.
Many challenge the calling of apostles today because they don't want their doctrine challenged. They want to remain in the captain's chair, deciding for themselves what is true and what is false doctrine. But, God never gave each individual Christian the right to determine truth apart from His sanctification.
Many challenge the calling of apostles today on the grounds of humility, saying that it is a mark of pride for a person to say that they are called to the office of apostle. That would make Paul proud because he began each epistle that way, causing believers to reflect on his stewardship of grace as an apostle. If he did not do that Paul would be guilty of coming in his own name.
What do you think?
Do you think that God is calling apostles today?
Vote Yes - If you believe God is calling apostles today.
Vote No - If you believe God is not calling apostles today.
Apostles Today F A Q
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Hi. . .care to comment?
What do you know about apostles today? What do they do? Who are claiming the calling? Where are they placing the integrity of their claims, in failed reforms of the past or are they centered in Jesus and His foundation knowledge? Why does the church need to embrace one doctrine of Christ? Who has the authority of doctrine? What is a false apostle?
Did you know. . .Most Christians were told that it is not possible to have a full and accurate knowledge of the truth. They were told that truth is progressive and that no one can know all the truth about the Gospel, we are bound to make mistakes in our doctrine.
Did you know. . . that God does not make mistakes. The problem is that the church abandoned the essentials of the doctrine of Christ, which are the 12 Elements. How important is truth to you?
"How now brown cow" is a verbal exercise to teach phonemic awareness, essential for students at risk for reading difficulties. So too, learning the 12 Elements of the Gospel is a must for all believers today. The exercise will teach Christ awareness, essential for all believers, for Satan has removed the meaning God assigned to the elements and gave them new meaning. How well do you know the 12 Elements of the Gospel? What questions would you ask Jesus about why He is sending apostles into the church today?
(Rom. 6:17; I Cor. 14:6, 26; Eph. 4:14; 1 Tim. 1:3, 10; 2 Tim. 3:10; Titus 1:9; Heb. 6:1; 2 John 1:9; Rev. 2:15
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Catie
May 27, 2012 @ 1:02 pm | delete
- Apostles today are sanctified stewards of the gospel of Christ, making His truth known throughout the earth..those who submit to the knowledge of the father will truely enter into the experience of the fullness of Christ.
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DeidreLinden
May 27, 2012 @ 2:05 am | delete
- Amen Evangelist Monique.
I was reading this from Acts this morning:
Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
Act 20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
What was key to me here was the difference between a true apostle and a false apostle. A true apostle unites through the truth being empowered by the Witness of God to do so for the faith of the believer, but a false apostle preaches the gospel of the flesh that scatters the sheep as man seeks for purpose.
Even the Apostle Paul warned of this saying after his departure; in this we see the importance of the calling of the apostle for the government of God starts first with this calling. Grievous wolves did indeed enter the church of the Lord and scatter His flock for 2,000 years but the true apostles that the Lord is raising up now are uniting His flock in the Truth that all may be united under the Headship of Christ (Eph 4:13).
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moniquebabst
May 25, 2012 @ 11:35 am | delete
- A true apostle does not claim to posess partial truth, but posseses truth in its entirety, with nothing of man added and nothing of Christ missing.
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Apostle Theodore
May 24, 2012 @ 9:04 am | delete
- *Noah while building the Ark with the tools God gave him for faith preached for about 127yrs that rain was coming, being mocked by unbelievers he never stop doing what God had called Him to do until the day he went into the Ark and so do we work diligently at the Altar of Christ using the Tools He has provided for us through His Son for faith, building His House by the blueprint of living apostles without ceasing until the day comes when we are called into the Ark of safety(Jesus Christ).
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DeidreLinden
May 24, 2012 @ 3:13 am | delete
- This morning I was reading this from Acts:
Act 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
Act 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.
Act 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
The Lord immediately brought my attention to two things: The man saying how can he understand what is written unless someone tells him and later in verse 35 how Philip expounds Jesus Christ to his understanding.
This was an edifying distinction to see the pattern by which God reveals Christ to man's understanding through stewardship; in this we see the necessity for living apostles. The man stood in recognition of Philip and through such humbled himself to the instruction of grace so that he could behold the face of Christ. This is what living apostles do; they unfold Jesus Christ to man.
Note that Philip did not use what was written to preach a gospel that confirmed man or promoted a message of health, wealth and prosperity, but instead he spoke of Jesus and drew the man's attention to the plan of God. Here is an important link: Scriptures need to be interpreted by those who the Lord has first raised up to do so, not privately, or as this man experienced one does not understand. When apostles lay in the heart the foundation of Truth and the 3-fold tether is kept by faith then what is written in word confirms Christ in the heart and the understanding is according to God's perspective.
This is the same pattern that the apostles that God is raising up today is preaching: Jesus Christ. Those whom the Lord is raising today as His mouthpieces speak forth the same mystery as the first century apostles did, confirming the pattern of Jesus Christ in word and in deed.
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Apostle Solomon
May 23, 2012 @ 1:39 pm | delete
- The return of apostolic governance to the church is the sign of the times which lets us know that we are in the second 8th week of Enoch which is written in the books of Enoch. As we rejoice in this time of fellowship we know that god is in control ans we are willing to worship Him in Spirit and in truth under His steward of the second covenant in Christ, called, chosen and faithful.
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Bibi Burger
May 23, 2012 @ 12:44 pm | delete
- Christ is not seen in part anymore, but Christ is ow seen in full, by the doctrine given through the Apostles today.
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Apostle Paul
May 23, 2012 @ 6:41 am | delete
- Real apostles of Jesus carry a measure of grace to lay the foundation of Christ in the heart of believers. Real apostle are redirecting faith to the true testimony of Jesus Christ. Real apostle teaches believers how to function in the second covenant priesthood. Real apostle aren't directing believers to seminars, places or people.
Believers are unprepared for the daily battle of faith. They flock to seminars and praise and worship meetings because they suffer from lack in the soul. Without true covenant apostles pastors and teachers and even self proclaimed apostle are feeding Gods people with unwholesome knowledge. This knowledge is not bringing completion and it evident as people are daily changing churches and reading different books.
many may not agree with me but we agree on one thing... We are indeed in the very last minutes of the last days.
True Purpose has been lost and therefore we see many believing the gospel of health wealth and prosperity. Our sole purpose now is to bear the fruits of Christ in the soul. This alone make as worth, no deed, act, or profession will accomplish this. We will only find true equity and unity when believers find purpose in the royal priesthood of Christ, this priesthood is not a mind frame that we must adapted. As Moses prepared Aron and his sons to serve God in the priesthood so to must the apostle of Christ prepare believers.
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Apostle Andres
May 22, 2012 @ 2:57 pm | delete
- The church will come to witness in our generation, how the mighty are fallen. For only the anointed shield of faith will stand. Gods anointing of truth for faith that comes by apostolic stewardship is positioned in uprightness for the pleasure of the Lord, and those of the false system of pasoral headship even their mighty ones will fall, for their shield of faith is not anointed. The Ephod of the priesthood stands not wiith them, and their inquiry is not to the Lord of Host, but unto another spirit. The 12 elements of the complete gospel of Christ shall rule and govern the church, and the sinner will be given over unto those who stand in the righteousness of the Lord.
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Apostle Solomon
May 22, 2012 @ 2:44 pm | delete
- Christ rules His church through His government that He chooses and equip to teach believers the priesthood and fruit bearing instead of position, recognition and association.
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moniquebabst
May 22, 2012 @ 12:44 am | delete
- Christ rules the church through His measure of Grace that proceeds through each of the 5 callings. Apostles posses the measure of Grace to instruct the church in doctrine.
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DeborahFlorio
May 21, 2012 @ 2:14 pm | delete
- Christ is the aroma of our charity for it is the outflow of our faith possessing all the necessary ingredients of His truth issued to the church by God through His living apostles today.
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Catie
May 21, 2012 @ 6:00 am | delete
- one must understand that we submit under the measure of grace in our calling, for Christ rules the church thru the measures of grace...we stand in the confidence of His grace knowing that He perfects our faith in Him! Apostles today will guide you in the light of Christs sanctified stewardship!
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Catie
May 20, 2012 @ 12:43 pm | delete
- The time we live in now which is the second part of the 8th week..according to prophecy, is 2000 years after the chruch has been in darkness...living apostles have been educated and expeirnced the true knowledge (doctrine) of Christ, so that the world can finally be redeemed in perfect faith.
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DeborahFlorio
May 20, 2012 @ 12:24 pm | delete
- The children of God labor with the knowledge and tools of Christ Covenant but the children of the devil labor with their own perception of life finding the whole truth of Jesus Christ preached by living apostles today to be insignificant to faith.
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