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    LaraineRose LaraineRose Dec 13, 2009 @ 1:16 am
    I am not certain that I agree with your interpretation of the numbaer 666 but your lens was interesting and I agree with quite a few of your points. I have been a student of the Bible for more than 50 years and am very happy that others are still 'seeking and finding.' ***** and lensrolling.
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    Tipi Tipi Dec 11, 2009 @ 1:34 pm
    A wonder and education lens that I am very happy to bring a Squid Angel to.
    Blessing on your head!
    Susie
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    hitsupernova hitsupernova Nov 30, 2009 @ 6:11 pm
    You seem to have overlooked the fact that the Apostle Paul - who wrote large portions of the New Testament - was himself originally a Pharisee and highly educated. Also, the fact that someone is 'illiterate' or 'uneducated' does not mean they are also 'stupid'. People often make the mistake of equating 'not knowing' with being 'dumb'. Roman society was extremely complex, rich and diverse. Sure maybe they 'didn't know' that the earth was round and not flat, was part of a solar system and it takes light around 4 and half years to travel to the nearest neighbouring star. But 'stupid' - definitely not. And I suspect if you or I were bargaining with a street vendor of the time over the price of some article we might well come off second best. Do you really think the later translators would be completely unaware of the issues you raise? Of course not.
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    Steelecommerce Steelecommerce Nov 30, 2009 @ 9:25 pm
    I will answer your points one at a time. I did not overlook Paul or (Saul of Tarus), funny how his conversion occured right after Jesus died when his followers were up for grabs. What was Saul's, the highly educated and literate Pharisee, attitude towards Jesus and his followers while he was alive? I did not say dumb or stupid. I said illiterate to make my case that the diciples writings would probably have been originally in their native tongue (Aramaic). I am a Aramaic primacist, meaning most of the Bible would have been written in Hebrew and Aramaic, a dialec of Hebrew. Funny how the Romans and Paul, wrote mostly in Greek, except for official Roman documents would have been in Latin. What did the Romans and Paul think of Jesus and his followers before his death and legacy? The English word "education", comes from the latin "educare". which means, to bring forth from within. I do think the later translators were unaware of the issues I raised. Judeo/Christianism is an eastern Religion and the Romans and Pauline Christians seem to bring forth from the authorities of the past. What if some of the authorities of the past are wrong or misinterpreted in a western Greco/Roman view, then that education would be more of an indoctrination of past authorities. "Call no man Father, call no man teacher, Seek and you shall find the spirit of truth, for it dwells with you and is in you." To bring forth from within is not only education, but also awareness. Jesus said to be in the world and not of it. That means to be in the world and not be indoctrinated, but aware of what is true.
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    faithfuljim faithfuljim Jul 30, 2009 @ 2:55 pm
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    Steelecommerce Steelecommerce Jul 1, 2009 @ 5:44 am
    For it is said, that John that was put in to a cauldron of boiling oil, that which he survived and then was banished to the island of Patmos in the Agean Sea.
    I am not a chapter and verse person, seek and you shall find.
    God Bless ya
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    James Smith James Smith Jun 30, 2009 @ 10:35 pm
    Where in the Bible does it say that John was put into Hot Oil???
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    writeonbro writeonbro May 26, 2009 @ 11:40 am
    I agree that it's more than the eye could ever see in the words of the Bible. It takes faith.
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    ChineseKitesforKids ChineseKitesforKids May 5, 2009 @ 9:58 pm
    Terrific Lens!! 5 stars! I did get a better understanding. Thank you for sharing.
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    Terry Terry May 3, 2009 @ 4:59 pm
    What is meant by 1st corinthians 15 v. 29
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    spirituality spirituality Apr 12, 2009 @ 7:54 am
    Great lens - you've been blessed by a squidoo angel :)
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    Steelecommerce Steelecommerce Mar 26, 2009 @ 12:11 pm
    Exactly right, futhermore I think an aware person has the truth within them and will bear witness to it, when they hear it. Like the old saying it takes one to know one. "Forgive them father for they do not know", do not know what?, the truth! Most people will accept most information from a good or bad authority as the truth, not always so, and the good authority is not always aware of this. "Forgive them Father for they do not know, seek and you shall find the truth, the truth is with you and within you". paraphrased from the words of Jesus. Moreover, Jesus also said "call no man Father or no man Teacher", for a reason.
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    themoneyequation themoneyequation Mar 26, 2009 @ 8:13 am
    Great lens! Great insight. It makes you ponder and question some of the beliefs you've accepted as truth. Whether they are really your truth or just another persons truth.
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    shaneenclarke shaneenclarke Dec 21, 2008 @ 11:03 pm
    Wonderful lens! Prayers has been the primary tool in my life.
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    Steelecommerce Steelecommerce Dec 18, 2008 @ 1:41 am
    There has been a portion of the Judeo/Christion culture, since inception, that thought it was in the end times. look at all the best selling books and TV evangelicals of today.
    It was the same in the time of the writing of revelations. The interest in "666' and The new world order is all spawned by the thought or fear that we may be living in the end times. God is divine and Jesus spoke the truth. But, Jesus left no writings behind. It is said that John wrote Revelations. Wrong translations, human error, taking idioms literal and wrong synonyms used in translations has clouded the view of salvation in the Bible. This need not be, if one truly seeks. What I write is not to disprove my own Judeo/Christian faith. Conversly, it strengthens daily as I see the truth. What I once saw as Christian authorites, I now see as well intentioned mere men in error. "Wo you scribes and Pharisees" may mean, in modern day english, wo you Preachers, Pastors and translators of the Bible.
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    Steelecommerce Steelecommerce Dec 17, 2008 @ 5:14 am
    No, with all due respect, I said the mark on the right hand refers to a mans works. It was a Galien Aramaic idiom of the day. "He will sit by the the right hand of God in Heaven" means, he has done the works of the Father. To have the mark 666 on your right hand is also an Aramaic idiom, which means - you do or have done the works or actions of the beast, which was Nero Caesar or those of Caesar.

    And Yes send me your info, I would like to see it.
    Here is the common sense info from above, God gave us the ability to bear witness to the truth, if my info does not bring forth something within you, that gives you a feeling of " oh yeah I understand" than I would not be satisfied and seek the truth elsewhere. God bless You, Jesus said If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. Anybody can say or write anything, but, within us is the ability to discern the truth. That is where God is, or Jesus, Or the Holy Spirit.
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    ABC123 ABC123 Dec 16, 2008 @ 8:39 am
    666 Does not refer to "Nero" in name, "Number of his name" or "Number of a man" refers to a name in the old and new testament. You are right about the mark being "Mental enslavement" but the "Right hand" refers to "Right or wrong" not "Right hand or left".
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    sandyspider sandyspider Dec 3, 2008 @ 11:15 am
    Great lens! You put a lot into think.
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    BibleAlive BibleAlive Nov 9, 2008 @ 6:40 pm
    Wow! What an awesome site. Great information!
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    cregan cregan Nov 1, 2008 @ 12:38 pm
    Great lens! Question? The beast that bears the number 666 was to come in the End of Days, if I remember my Revelations correctly. Do you agree? If so, please explain then how that can be Nero Caesar. Unless we have been in the End of Days for nearly 2000 years. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts...
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    MsMorrison MsMorrison Oct 20, 2008 @ 7:44 pm
    Great lens! Thanks for sharing this. I commend you for working on spreading the Word of God. Thanks for taking advantage of technology like the internet to help people understand who Jesus is.
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    d-artist d-artist Oct 15, 2008 @ 9:28 pm
    VERY nice lens! thanks for sharing...5*s
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    Paula Paula Oct 1, 2008 @ 8:41 pm
    Nice, I hope to read it in detail one of these days.
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    dc64 dc64 Sep 24, 2008 @ 3:23 pm
    I'm going to be late for work, so I have to come back later to read more!5 stars for what I did get through
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    MrMarmalade MrMarmalade Sep 23, 2008 @ 1:15 am
    I Like some of your thoughts, especially Revelations.
    Well constructed and time consuming lens
    Thank you
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    andy andy Sep 20, 2008 @ 7:23 pm
    False prophets always make friends easily
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    Serenity_Prayer_Gifts Serenity_Prayer_Gifts Sep 16, 2008 @ 1:44 pm
    So much to learn here! Good to keep an open heart and mind! Thank you! :-)
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    onthejourney onthejourney Sep 13, 2008 @ 7:42 am
    You have put together some interesting and plausible ideas. I wish you would include some of your resources, and how you know these things to be true. I believe you have some good points to make. Keep studying teher might be more to add to your ideas.
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    spirituality spirituality Sep 9, 2008 @ 10:27 am
    Very good points. Glad someone's taking on taking the Bible literally - it can't be.
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    rhonda rhonda Sep 3, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
    i like the way the Lords Prayer was interpted
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    Rich007 Rich007 Aug 22, 2008 @ 10:51 am
    I like this lens. Its not often that you see someone talking about Jesus and the Bible.

    Thanks
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    richgerman richgerman Aug 4, 2008 @ 5:48 am
    well, maybe because of the different understanding of the scripture that's why we have different beliefs and religion... that's just my opinion...

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    internetguy internetguy Jul 20, 2008 @ 12:02 pm
    Good lens, I like your take on the idiomatic expressions in the bible, the Aramaic language was limited compare to Greek and Latin.
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    William William Jul 18, 2008 @ 11:57 am
    I agree, they spoke much different in the biblical times and these translations should not be taken literally
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    Jason Jason Jul 14, 2008 @ 11:36 am
    This is the latest information about "666".

    666 and the Truth
    http://twj611dc.mysinablog.com/index.php?op=ViewArticle&articleId=1244965
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    telecomgirl telecomgirl Jul 14, 2008 @ 10:10 am
    Excellent lens, very informative ***** 5 Stars different take on understanding the sciptures
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    Bill Bill Jul 13, 2008 @ 7:33 pm
    Excellent lens, 5 Stars
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    Steelecommerce Steelecommerce Jul 4, 2008 @ 11:20 am
    What phrase or passage in the bible do you not understand, lets see if we have the same interpretation.

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What is True Understanding in the Bible? "Let There Be Light"

To understand Judeo/Christian Religion and the Bible, one must understand the language of that day, or have a translation from someone who totally understood all the aspects of the spoken word in those times. Someone or those... (more)

Contents at a Glance

  1. Let There Be Light "Let there be Enlightenment or Understanding"
  2. The language in the Bible is a part of a bread crumb trail to, in Christian parlance, what is called Salvation!
  3. How would Jesus and the Disciples, Aramaic speaking Semites, speak to people of their own language and times?
  4. Literal Bible Translations from Semitic Languages to Greek then English are Ambiguous! What was the Mark of the Beast? "666"
  5. Using idioms was the common way to communicate in the Biblical times of the near eastern Semite.
  6. But, John said in Revelations, He causeth men to receive a mark in their right hand or foreheads; and that no man might buy
  7. What is 666? Poll
  8. What is Prayer? What Prayer May Not Be!
  9. Translation of the Lords Prayer from Aramaic to English
  10. Hear the Lords Prayer Sang in The Language Jesus and the Disciples Spoke (Aramaic)
  11. Aramaic Interpretation of often misunderstood Bible passages and phrases.
  12. Bible and Religious Writings Poll
  13. Intuitive, Knowing, Conscience, Spirit, Awareness, Truth
  14. Biblical & Religous Writtings from Amazon
  15. Bible Truth and Understanding Quotes
  16. Bible Truth & Religion Resources
  17. Aramaic and The Christian Religion
  18. Understanding Judeo/Christian Writings Poll
  19. What are others saying about the Bible and Aramaic language?
  20. Comment or start a disscusion on understanding the Bible.
  21. New Link List