Children Charities: Salaries of the Executives
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Did you know that some Children Charity CEOs earn nearly $0.5 million per year?
Frankly, I would not mind if they would only tell you about it. But it seems to be a secret that few people know. I am conducting a survey on the subject to see if visitors are aware that Children's Charity Execs are making nearly $0.5 million. Currently nearly 60% say that they were not aware of this. So, why don't the charities tell us? Why doesn't the media publicize the story? These are the questions discussed in this article.
Chief Executive's Salaries
CEO Salaries
Children International
www.Children.org
Jim Cook CEO
Oct 2009- Sept 2010: Salary $435'992 + $40'886 = $476'878
Oct 2007- Sept 2008: Salary $357,097 + $61'183 + $17'838 = $436'183
Save The Children
www.savethechildren.org
Charles MacCormack, President:
Jan 2010- Dec 2010: $339,767 + $51'427+ $38'500+ $28'4800=$458'174
Oct 2007- Sept 2008: $354'081 +$66'805 +$5'735 = $426'621
World Vision
www.worldvision.org
Richard Stearns, President:
Oct 2009- Sept 2010: $340,507+ $38,662 + $39,552 + $20,434 = $439'155
Oct 2007- Sept 2008: $336'472 + $44'382 + $40'327 = $421'181
Child Fund
AKA Christian's Children's Fund
http://www.childfund.org/
Anne Goddard President:
July 2009- June 2010: $258'738+ $59'170 = $317'548
July 2007-June 2008: $249'231 + $32'994 + $12'000 = $ 294'225
Compassion International
www.compassion.com
Wess Stafford, CEO
Jul 2009- June 2010: $267'058 + $39186= $306'244
Jul 2008 - Jun 2009: $214'943+ $34'743 = $249'686
Jul 2007- Jun 2008: $206.673 + $20'521 = $227'194
Salaries Updated In August 2011
Summary of Salary Increases
Jim Cook, who already had the highest salary of the five Children's Charity CEOs that I am tracking, is now considerably higher due to the fact that his total compensation raised nearly 10% over two years from $436'183 to $476'878. At this rate, Cook will likely be the first to break the magic $500,000 barrier.
Wes Safford who had the lowest of the five salaries decided it was time to play catch up. His salary increased a whopping 35% over 2 years! Have you ever experienced a pay raise like that?
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The president of the organization that I had been contributing to wrote a letter to sponsors announcing a 22% increase in monthly contributions saying "We have struggeled to keep up with rapidly rising costs without reducing the services and benefits we provide to the children under our care. Cutting back is something we just dont want to do." Cutting back his salary or his staff's salary is something else he didnt want to do. This letter was from an executive whose pay package is well over $400,000 per year.
I wrote to them and and asked how they justified the high salaries. I received a detailed response, which included this:
"We feel that looking just at the salary of one individual or a handful of individuals is to miss the big picture and to get a mistaken impression. We could pay less and require less of our employees in terms of skills, experience and performance, but we feel the resulting inefficiencies would end up costing us more in the aggregate and benefiting the children less."
Two follow-up emails went unanswered.
I contacted several journalists to try to interest them in writing an expose, but I was told that there was little interest in the story. I was told that it was a well known fact that many charity CEOs are making huge bucks at the expense of the children. It simply was not news.
My informal poll below shows otherwise. Nearly 60% of visitors to this site say that they were not aware of these high salaries.
While I believe that many of these organizations fullfill a vital need and deserve your support, I STRONGLY suggest that you research the organization that you contribute to to make sure that its objectives match your requirements. I also ask your help to get journalists to start writing about this topic. If you know a good journalist, send them a link to this story and ask them to write about it.
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Did you realize that Children's Charity Execs Were Making Such High Salaries?
Resources to Get More Information About Your Charity.
Do some reseach before you donate
Charity Navigator offers free detailed information about a number of charities.
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All of these resources will tell you the salaries of the CEO of your charity.
I would have little problem if the CEO earned $500,000 per year.....
if it was clear to the donors that the CEOs have their hand that deeply in the cookie jar. However, I challenge you to go to any Children's Charity and find the salary of the CEO. Sure it is there, but you have to dig very deeply to find it. As a result most donors do not know that CEOs of the Charities are using their money to live in luxury. Most would not donate if they do. The goal of this Lens is to inform potential donars so that they can make an informed decision.
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Is there a limit to the salaries that charity CEO's should make?
What do you think?
Please answer BOTH questions below:
Question #1: Some people feel that a charity is like any other business and a good CEO is worth the high salary because they can bring money to the charity and make it run better. Others believe that charities should be managed by people who care about what they are doing and are not in it to become rich.What do you think?
Question #2: If you feel that Children's Charity CEO's deserve salaries of $0.5 million up, do you believe it is OK to keep this information from the donars? Is it acceptable that most donars are not aware of the salaries of the charity executives? Or should this information be clearly posted on the charity website?
Do You Think That A Charity CEO Should Earn $500,000/year
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Rob says:
AS for question #2. Nonprofits have to declare the salaries of their highest paid staff on their Form 990's, which are submitted to the IRS and are freely available. This information is NOT hidden from anyone.
Posted February 08, 2012
Rob says:
Whilst some ED's are certainly paid more than I think is necessary, the idea that anything constituting a big salary is too much is utterly ridiculous. For the most part, these people are highly educated professionals who do a very demanding job, and do it very well. For a big organization (and some nonprofits are huge), I don't think $500,000 is too much. Just because you work for a nonprofit, doesn't mean you don't deserve to earn a good living, and as with the for profit world, the more qualified and best people should earn more than the rest. I work for a nonprofit (and earn an okay wage, which won't ever get me rich) and do not begrudge our ED earning much more than I do, she works VERY hard for it. And remember, that as the for profit world gives ever more ludicrous salaries to their CEO's and other high level staff, nonprofits are going to have to somewhat follow or face losing their own.
Posted February 08, 2012
Alexk says:
Certain people will always abuse an opportunity that comes their way, this unfortunately is the nature of the world we live in. This also goes for people with high paying jobs.
However, anybody who says the reason "I" dont give any money to charities is because the CEO makes loads, are, quite frankly, lying to themselves. They hide behind this excuse not to give any money and convince themselves they are good people, they are the people doing the right thing. They say these CEOs are abusing the charities they work for by being paid so well whilst the "real workers" are slaving away "working harder" (doubt that) in the real world. They casually omit one vital point in the argument: Whilst they are working hard, supposedly harder than these charity CEOs, they are also doing BUGGER ALL for charity. If you fall into the above category, but do actually do things for charity outside donating to these large organisations, then i do not mean to cause offence, this is not aimed at you, and i genuinely applaud your efforts to make this world a better place and appreciate your obviously genuine views on this matter. To all of those simply complaining and still doing sweet FA for charity, you are quite clearly jealous of these people who are, a) not only making a lot of money but b) doing WAY more for charity than you ever will.
To conclude, i am not saying that every charity CEO who earns a triple figure salary is deserving of it, i am not saying a lot of this money couldn't be used more efficiently. But i AM saying that we cannot ignore the fact that in the world we currently live in you need to have money to make money, and the same goes for large scale charity operations. You need infrastructure and organisation to succeed and the only way you get this is from the experience of employees who justify their large wages. Would it be more ideal for these people to do the same job for peanuts. Yes. Is it realistic. No. So we have to decide, do we accept this and do everything we can to help out, or do we complain that its not fair, whislt innocent people in need of care and support struggle and die?
Posted December 30, 2011
clgray says:
I think a charity CEO should earn what is commensurate with his experience and education (just like in the for profit world). He/she should also earn what his peers (other CEO's) earn. This person is running an organization and should be remunerated as such. Fullstop. I don't know why this myth exists that for some reason, people working for nonprofits should be doing it for the love of it, when they too have families to feed. If they were working for "feel-good" moments, they'd be volunteers. Nonprofit executives need to get paid. Period.
Dan Palotta wrote a really good book on this called "Uncharitable". The fact is, creating social change costs money, and requires serious organizational effort. Charities need really good marketing and strategic communications just to get their message out there to even get the donations to fight the cause in the first place. So why wouldn't charities try to attract the best there is, and then give them an incentive to stay? I've got 10 years experience working with nonprofits, and I've seen the same thing over and over. Lots of burnout, little pay - why would anyone stay? And it goes without saying what the adverse effects of fast staff turnover are. Charities need to stop treating themselves like charity cases, make the investment and get a good CEO who can lead the organization and all its programs EFFECTIVELY.
Posted October 20, 2011
John says:
The question is not to ask how much the CEO or any staff member gets paid. But rather what % of your $$ goes to the cause. Any charity able to give around 70% of the donation is a good charity. That is a good measure. Leave them to do what they are good at doing. Are you just angry that you don't earn $400,000 a year?
Posted October 20, 2011
Sandra says:
You can't help the poor if you're one of them!
Posted October 10, 2011
Dale Albertson says:
I don't understand the question. If I am giving my hard earned money to some organization, I want to know beyond any reasonable doubt that the people who are running the organization and the programs are qualified to do so. This would mean they have invested in an education like accounting, business management and so on. If they have, then there is an industry standard in place, and why would it even be a question as to whether or not they should be paid at their industry level? Go ahead and give your money to an all-volunteer agency and see how effective they really are. If you can even get a report out of them at all. Your premise is flawed, biased and discriminates against people who DO WANT TO HELP, but also have spent the time, money and effort to become qualified in their field. They should not be penalized just because they work for a charity. Ridiculous.
Posted October 03, 2011
Linda Tidwell says:
Yes! I personally know one of these CEO's and that person left a very high powered position that paid much, much more, and had many perks to take this charity position. So on the surface it appears this person is making a lot, but this person actually took a dramatic pay cut! To help the children!
Posted September 30, 2011
Chris says:
Depends what charity!! Most do a brilliant job, and the CEO would get far more outside the charity world.
Posted September 28, 2011
Morris says:
Yes - you get what you pay for. Running a huge charity is a massive responsibility.
Posted September 28, 2011
Bec says:
I think it's misleading to suggest that "the first 1666 donations go directly to the CEO's pocket". Surely these charities also apply for and receive grants and similar - usually of significant amounts, to cover wages, admin and all the other expenses necessarily paid by the charity.
For me, the bottom line is, these executives are managing massive organsiations that are making a massive difference to the lives of many. Since I am not responsible for a similar organisation nor therefore, a similar difference - I am not really qualified to decide how much that person's work is worth. Compassion's CEO, for example, may have earned over $300 000 in 2010 - but his work raised an income of over $476 million for the organisation. What's the price tag on achieving THAT?!
Posted September 24, 2011
Mara says:
I think it's ridiculous to expect a CEO to run a multimillion dollar organization for some nominal amount. Why should their be a limit just because it's a charitable organization? Our CEO and some on the executive staff make upwards to 800K per year. Our company does under 300M/yr business with 1200 employees.
It's true that one should investigate the charity they support. I've done just that with Compassion International and I fully support the salary provided to Wes Stafford.
Posted September 24, 2011
Staceysk says:
I think that alot of CEOs of charities in general pay their own expenses out of that salary. So if it's a global charity and they do research on whom to give money to or the best location for a new building, they will have travelling expenses. I think the biggest factor in choosing a charity to donate to is how much of the money actually gets to where you think it's going.
Posted September 10, 2011
Northern Dan says:
This articile is a hot steaming load of anti Christian propoganda. These execs people did not sign on to be priests, and in the case of World Vision CEO work relentlessly where others do, or would not. World Vision is transparent about where they spend money. The tithe was given to support those doing God's work, not serving petty back biters. As then, charity is only worth while given with
a cheerful heart.
Posted July 19, 2011
jackie says:
first of all, you have no idea how much money they are giving back!! Yes it's a lot of money, but they studied, worked hard, and if they want (like many people said here before) they can go elsewhere and make MORE money... It's America, so salary has to be competitive or else we won't have the BEST people working for these charities to make them the BEST they can be... Perhaps they don't need SOO much, but if you don't like it go somewhere else. Don't just complain and NOT help...that's also stupid.
Posted July 04, 2011
johnr says:
The question is irrelevant. We aren't going to change their pay. $500,000 is a drop in a 10 or 200 million dollar bucket. The deviant hedge fund managers on wall street (Jim Cramer included) consider our investments their money. As Morgan Stanley Chase was fined 30 million for commingling funds. So bless these CEO's for staying with these charities as long as they do, for the pay they could be getting else where.
Posted June 06, 2011
Grant says:
Another argument is that the work is too important to not have the best possible people we can in these positions so we need to pay them. I used to work for a charity for about 60% of what I could have got and they had incredible value from me. i found it annoying that nurses/police/teachers/everyone else would go on strike saying they were worth more but us poor charity workers had to just cop it or our clients suffered. Top producing CEO's earning $500k may be able to get $1m on the open market so that is incredible value, especially if they bring contacts/colleagues etc on board. If you pay someone $100k and get $120k value from them that is good, if you pay someone $500k and get $2m value from them that is better - get over it, judge the role/person by how much value they add. Personally I'd pay them $2m pa if they brought in $4m value - that's a lot of kids that can be helped.
Posted May 28, 2011
yourgoldenfuture says:
Its very difficult to judge...first its a high number...second its the problem of not taking in account what a manager of an international company gets... You get what you pay for...thats a different job they do...its international high-level business as a leader of world-vision...etc.
Posted April 20, 2011
Katie says:
I think for the amount of work and legal responsability is about right. It is all relative as the CEO has to bring many more times that amount to the charity otherwise it is not worth it.
Also you have to take into account that if the CEO were working as a CEO in another company it would be receiving millionaire salaries and bonosus, that is not the case in the charity. So, if someone decides to work for a charity, you know that is already giving up the big cheque or the opportunity of the "big cheque" somewhere else.
It is a same, that the money does not get allocated directly to the cause, but without the CEO, most likely the charity would not even exist!
Posted April 19, 2011
No, It Just Is Not Right!
Miki says:
No! I think the CEO should earn whatever is left AFTER the children get their needs met. I don't get how anyone can justify saying yes. They are blinded by the media and their fake religious values. Open your eyes, the children need the money, not some CEO.
Posted February 04, 2012
Jill Hart says:
Absolutely not!!!!
Posted January 31, 2012
johnnybgood says:
I feel that if it were me I would not take such a salary because it is a matter of the heart. What I mean is, if you really are here to help, especially for children and widows who God is very close to, then money should not be that important as a salary. What should be important is doing God's will and helping those who need (the kids and the widows). In the Bible there is a scripture that gets my attention and it goes kinda like this The rich man is not the man who has the most but the man who needs the least.Money doesn't equate to being rich in Heaven or in God's world,and you can't take it to Heaven with you but you can take it to hell with you.Somethng to think about.
Posted January 30, 2012
James says:
There is one thing which really gets under my skin. Why are there endless tv blogs about children in another part of the world to help and donate money, when within the US and Canada there are endless people and children starving who can't even have a warm meal, but yet we rather help an individual thousands of miles away that a person accross the street. i am not taking away that children do not need help in any part of the world.
But i guess as the saying goes, the grass is always green'er next door. What a wicked world we live in. Very Good web Site.
Posted January 28, 2012
Jim says:
Even the President of the United States doesn't make that much per year.
Posted January 26, 2012
mansoor says:
This is news to me. Not sure why the CEOs should make more money than field workers who also donate many volunteer hours at no cost. The 10% or 35% raise is really unforgiving. Even in government agency heads are not even nearly close. 60minutes should definitely run program on this.
Posted January 24, 2012
msbarboir says:
Absolutely not!
Posted January 18, 2012
al says:
Anyone who reacts to their environment the way of a serial killer does can be a ceo. Brain scans have proven this . Why should they get paid to kill, steal, and destroy? And what do they think about the children poor? Deleterious mutations or worse.
Posted January 17, 2012
Clarisse says:
If there is something to take advantage there will be people taking advantage.
That's some kind of fraud because they're not being honest, they have to say: 30% of your donation and hopes will be used for maintenance or for a new pool or my fat wife's liposuction or whatever.
They deserve a salary but not luxury, if they want that they should run a restaurant or a shop or whatever not a place close to "free money".
Posted January 13, 2012
Kevin says:
There is undoubtedly a vast number of individuals with sufficient education, knowledge, life experience, drive, intellect, people skills, wit, compassion, empathy, etc to adequately fill this position. Most likely there are millions of qualified outstanding individuals who would be happy to do for half that. It is clear from World Visions many scandals that it is UNCLEAR where donations end up. The term CEO is so synonymous with inflated salaries these days, no one bats an eye and we all accept it as a normality. The only people trying to make a difference these days seem to annoy the rest of us. I'm generalizing here for a reason. Ultimately, we all know these little charity organizations won't be 'changing the world' one donation at a time. Rather the people who donate are keeping these charities in business. I
m aware that charitable foundations do help many individuals out there, however the client(donor), is paying an inflated sum to do so. The existence of these sham charities cannot be blamed on the charities themselves, as much as the society that supports them and accepts them. Deep down perhaps we are more envious of these charities than we realize, and that is why it remains acceptable. Behavior of this magnitude needs to be outlawed and the rules of law need an immediate update.
Posted January 06, 2012
marion says:
It should be at least 75% going to the cause! Anything left can go to the CEOS!
Posted January 06, 2012
Becky says:
No way! This is ridiculous! All that money could save thousands of lives. As the commercials say, fifty cents a day can save a child. Imagine how many lives could be saved if these greedy CEO's would make a normal salary, like $40,000. What are they doing that they need to get paid that much money? How do they sleep at night and how will they justify taking money from starving children to GOD when they are before Him? This is outrageous!
Posted January 06, 2012
dannystaple says:
I don't really have a lot of love for a CEO of any organisation on that excessive figure, especially when they have droves of minimum wage workers. The fact that it is charitable disgusts me that bit more, but don't forget they are taking this cut from everything you buy - your large electricity bills, your food, your petrol (gasoline), and your tax.
Posted January 05, 2012
BILL says:
NO WAAAAAY.
Posted January 01, 2012
randy says:
I believe that these people pray on others good will while they live high on the hog. I would not of mind if they were making $100,000 to 110,000 max. This is why I don't donate to any of them
Posted January 01, 2012
Garnet says:
Help the needy not the greedy
Posted December 31, 2011
Nick says:
Absolutely ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a donor, I believe I have a right to question how my donation is spent, but I know these leeches would make the most outrageous excuses justifying their "earnings."
Posted December 28, 2011
Diane says:
No, they should not make 1/2 million a year! Why should we give to these charities when we make 20,000 or 30,000 a year, just to enable someone to live in luxury? Excuse me, but they can run the charity and earn 50,000 to 100,000 per year just as efficiently. It takes dedication, business sense and common sense to run a corporation. They use a lot of volunteers so that those at the top earn high salaries? Not what should be done!!!
Posted December 26, 2011
daniel. says:
A CEO who is willing to work for his occupations minimum wage is already doing an amazing job of running a charity, because he could already be putting $400,000 back into the hands of people who need it. Don't get into a charity job unless you actually believe in the cause. It's amazing how brainwashed people are when it comes to money. THE TRICKLE EFFECT DOES NOT WORK! IT'S THE SAME PRINCIPLE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE AMERICAN ECCONOMY WORK AND IT'S FAILED!
Posted December 19, 2011
Response To A Children's Charity CEO
What Is A "Fair" Salary?
"Joyce", a Children's Chairity CEO left an anonymous comment in the duel module above. Joyce writes "If you don't want to pay us, than you are limited to a small pool of independently wealthy individuals (often women who are married to spouses who can carry the bulk of the family's financial needs)"
To "Joyce" and other charity CEO's:
Let's be clear. No one said anything about not paying Children's Charity CEO's. Everyone will agree that a Charity CEO should earn a fair wage. But what is fair?
According to Wikipedia in 2005 only 15% of US households had a salary exceeding $100'000. Only 1.5% had a salary exceeding $250,000. There is no data for salaries above that, but one can imagine it is exceedingly small. (Yes this is 2005 data, but the salary data shown above is reported late and is several years old. CEO salaries are almost certainly MUCH higher now).
Joyce: How can you consider a salary above 98.5% of US households "fair"? How can you think it is fair to take such a salary while pleading for money to help impoverished children? How can you consider it fair when the majority of donors are not aware that Children's Charity CEOs take such salaries?
If you insist on receiving such a salary and want to be fair, simply inform donors. Most visitors to this site were not aware that Children's Charity CEOs demand salaries approaching $0.5 Million annually. Why would they be? After it is called the "nonprofit sector".
A challenge to every Chidren's Charity CEO and board of directors: Display the compensation of your executive team somewhere obvious on your website and I will be pleased to mention your Charity on this lens as an example.
Do You Think It is OK That a Charity CEO Should Make a High Salary?
Some say that a good CEO can add great value to a charity and this can be worth any salary the charity may want to pay.
Some think that a CEO of the Charity should be in it more for the cause than for the cash.
What do you think?
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Gloria Pace King was fired from the United Way of Central Carolinas during a scandal related to a $2.1 million retirement package. Later she sued the United way and received an additional $700,000.
According to the Better Business Bureau The current United Way CEO Brian Gallagher's compensation for 2008 was $1,037,410.
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Typical Sponsorship Ad
Most of the child sponsorship charities take a similar approach
But where is it that they tell you "The CEO of our charity makes $30'000 per MONTH".
I don't mind that he makes that amount of money. That he makes the income of 300 Columbian families. Just let the donors know it.
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What kinds of questions should you ask before you donate your money?
Often the answer is no. Your child will not be receiving any of the money you donate. Your money goes to a 'general fund' which the charity uses as it sees fit. Personally, I prefer that my child receives specific services.
Do not contribute unless at least 80% goes to the fund. No more than 20% should go to administrative costs.
Personally, I believe that the head should receive a reasonable salary, but should not be getting rich. What is reasonable? In my opinion $100,000 is a reasonable salary. I think it is disgusting that some charity heads feel that salaries of $300,000+ are justified. I would NOT recommend donating to any charity where the executives are making such salaries.
Some charities allow you to send emails to your child, which are then translated locally. You will receive your response by regular snail mail. Others require that you send your letters by regular post.
Many charities began as missionary work for a particular religion. While there is nothing wrong with this, they may be using the charity to develop their religion abroad. Just be aware of the goal of the organization. Is it to help children? Or is it to convert new members? I want to support an organization whose primary goal is to help children, NOT to create new members for their religion. I want my charity to use my donations to feed and educate poor children, not to build churches.
Click the link for Give and see. However, amazing as it seems, many charity watchdogs like Give will approve a charity, even when the chief executive makes $0.5 million annually. Give's evaluation should be just one criteria. Do not base your final judgement on the opinion of the charity watchdogs.
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How To Change This?
Here are some things YOU can do
* Contact your congressperson. Forward a copy of this site and ask them to make a law requiring charities to post the salaries of their executives on their website. Find your congressperson's address.* Contact a journalist and ask them to write on this topic. The media can increase public awareness. With public awareness, charities will be forced to make changes. Find a list of journalist's addresses.
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Excellent Charities
Some Charities Which May Be Worth Your Donations
For example:
Nepal Youth Foundation
One reader wrote about the Nepal Youth Foundation. They mentioned that the President earns no salary and that the NYF has earned the prestigious 4 stars from Charity Navigator. With that information, I had to investigate further, so I wrote to them. I won't trouble you with my letter, but here you will read their response:
I am quite proud, that as a result of our efficient good governance, we have been awarded four consecutive four star ratings (the highest rating possible) from Charity Navigator, the largest independent evaluator of nonprofits in the United States. Only 8% of all nonprofits have qualified for this top rating for four consecutive years.
It is correct that our founder, and Board President does not take a salary, and pays her own expenses. She spends most of the year in Nepal overseeing our programs. The balance of time is spent in Sausalito raising funds for our work. She does not receive any support at all from NYF. Quite on the contrary, not only does she volunteer her time, and pay her own expenses, but she also very generously donates to us throughout the year.
Yes. I am NYF's highest paid staff member. You can view all of our 990 tax forms either on Charity Navigator's website or on our own website at: http://www.nepalyouthfoundation.org/aboutnyf/financial.html. We are proud of how transparent we are.
As for the staff in Nepal, our Executive Director in Nepal, would be the highest paid employee. The total expenses for the six administrative staff and their office was $83,029.
As for the Friends of Needy Children staff, their cost is built in to each program that they operate.
I hope that this answers any questions or concerns that you may have. Please let me know if you have any additional questions. Thank you again. Best wishes - Janis
Janis Olson
Executive Director U.S.
Nepal Youth Foundation
I am quite comfortable with this information. None of the staff are getting rich on donations. People are earning "normal" wages and the Charity is highly rated. That means alot to me. Personally, I also like that they have a special program which looks after disabled children. I will be investigating this charity further.
Second Sight
Dr.Lucy Mathen dropped by to inform us about her work with a UK charity called Second Sight which is working to eradicate blindness in India. Dr Mathen wrote "we spend NOT ONE PENNY of donated money on office costs". This is a charity worth investigating!
Orphans International Worldwide
Jim Luce and Linda Stanley dropped by to tell us about Orphans international. While I liked what they said (that they do not draw any salary) I would like to see their 990 tax forms posted on their website and a review on Charity Navigator. Since they do not have this, I would think that this needs further research.
Christian Foundation for Children and Aging
A reader informed us about the Christian Foundation for Children and Aging, a recipient of Charity Navigator's 4 star award for 7 years. The President, Co-Founder as well as the CEO are each earning just over $100,000. Less than 6% of their funds are spend on fund raising and admin fees.
Though I have not done indepth research on any of these charities, this shows me that there are some respectable organizations where the people running the show are in it for the children and NOT for the bucks. No one is getting rich in these organizations and that makes me optimistic. Please do your own research before deciding to donate. Make sure that you find a charity that meets your own goals and objectives. They are there. You just have to look very carefully to find the right one.
Charities Which Deserve Your Donations
These Charities Spend YOUR Money Well
- 10 Highly-Rated Charities with Low Paid CEOs
- From Charity Navigator: The leaders of these 10 organizations run highly-rated charities, yet they earn far less than the average compensation of $150,000 reported by the over 5,000 charities rated by Charity Navigator. The low salaries help these charities, which have earned at least two consecutive 4-star ratings, devote more than 80% of their budgets to their programs and services. That means that less than 20% of your dollars are going to such costs as fundraising and administration, including the salary of the CEO. The list is ranked by the CEO's compensation.
What do you think about CEO's of Children's Charities receiving salaries above $300,000?
Would you prefer to donate to a children's charity where the CEO did not receive a high salary? Or do you think that it is necessary to pay a high salary in order to recruit a talented CEO?
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Iain84
Feb 11, 2012 @ 10:18 am | delete
- Excellent lens! It's great to see controversial subjects again. People will always take advantage of money grabbing opportunities but maybe these high-paid CEOs are what the charities need? I wouldn't be suprised if many of them were making more money than necessary but I guess there's two sides to every story?
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MSE
Feb 11, 2012 @ 10:33 am | delete
- Yes, there is two sides to every story. But I think everyone seems to get my main message wrong. I would not donate to a charity where the CEO earns so much money, although many people seem to be OK with that. So, I believe the charities MUST be more forthcoming about the salaries. I believe that they should be compelled to clearly post the salaries on their website.
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Marie
Jan 29, 2012 @ 11:30 am | delete
- I think that it is disgusting that they should earn that kind of money. Many people are making do with les and still donate because they feel it is right. I am appalled. I have been a donator since the the 1980's and I am very disappointed. I want a charity where the CEO is not getting rich off my money whle I worry as to where my next penny is going to come from
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WhiteSockGirl
Jan 26, 2012 @ 11:33 am | delete
- I love your lens! Congrats for being brave enough to tackle this topic
I am a human rights activist; I only worked for non-profits in my country. I left my last job after I discovered that the Director of the organization has been claiming a 25% consultancy fee on all donor income funds in addition to his salary. You can imagine what type of earnings he is taking home.
Anyhow, I exposed him and I left because the rest of the staff members became hostile towards me. They are very loyal to him because he was turning a blind eye to their less than honorable activities.
It was the first organization that I worked for that is so blatantly exploiting the ‘plight of the poor’, and I am now looking at ‘charitable’ organization differently.
I am of the opinion that staff members of non-profits should get paid. However, if you want an excessive salary, then you have no business working for non-profits, charities or human rights organizations. Get yourself a fabulous job in the corporate world and do the capitalist thing properly.
I think it is immoral that anyone uses the plight of the poor, or any other social cause, to get rich.
Ps. This lens deserves a purple star, and that evasive LOTD status. I don’t get the Squidoo politics. Why ignoring brilliant lenses like this one whilst awarding iffy lenses, about sweet boring nothings, with purple stars and LOTD status? I just don’t get it.
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Tolovaj
Jan 9, 2012 @ 9:07 am | delete
- I like provocative lenses. This is very to the point. And as i already said: charity should not be mixed with any kind of profit.
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jadehorseshoe
Dec 22, 2011 @ 4:03 pm | delete
- A thought provoking lens.
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seeker2011
Dec 17, 2011 @ 8:05 pm | delete
- I dont use charities for this reason. There is no justification for a CEO to take from a chaiity. It is a sad world where we justify such large salaries when children are dyiing. If just $2 a day can feed a child then how many children can a CEO feed!
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baby-strollers
Dec 13, 2011 @ 9:32 pm | delete
- seems a little excessive...
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TRUTH
Dec 11, 2011 @ 11:41 pm | delete
- I cannot believe these [C]heating [E]xtorting [O]gres can even sleep at night or look at themselves in the mirror. Thank The Good Lord for The Day Of Judgement. His Wrath will NOT be contained RE: the likes of these Satan's minions.
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Dec 8, 2011 @ 12:02 am | delete
- What a fantastic lens! I actually got here because I was researching for writing something similar... I'm so glad someone has already done it, and done it with so much spirit! I will probably still write my page - the more angry voices there are, the better.
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JaguarJulie
Nov 13, 2011 @ 11:16 am | delete
- I'm still thinking about your question, "Did you know that some Children Charity CEOs earn nearly $0.5 million per year?" Isn't that rather like an oxy-moron? Holy smokes batman! Charity might be said to "begin at home" but it sure does seem to reward royally ... in the wrong place.
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MSE
Nov 24, 2011 @ 1:46 am | delete
- Hi Julie: I agree. But my biggest problem with it is that few people are aware when they donate that the CEOs are living in such luxury. I really wish that congress would require that their salaries are clearly posted on the website. Then things would change pronto.
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ouriloilo
Nov 6, 2011 @ 12:37 am | delete
- That is sad, turning a Charity as a source of income for the CEOs
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KidsOverKancer
Nov 2, 2011 @ 10:39 pm | delete
- This lens is fantastic. For the record, I have my own non-profit organization and yes, I WORK FOR FREE. That's what happens when you work for a NON-PROFIT. If you want to make money, then you are working for the wrong organization. I work a 9-6 job to support me, and all the rest of my money goes towards my non-profit. We have grants, and we receive donations. We perform fundraisers, and we raise money like NORMAL charities do. People just don't realize how crucial $1 can be to child in need. It's crazy how CEO's actually think they DESERVE that salary. Not a change. It's a non-profit for a reason.
Check out my organization called Kids Over Kancer, where 100% of the dollar goes towards the child, and not to my pocket.
www.squidoo.com/kidsoverkancer
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Mermaiden
Oct 6, 2011 @ 6:31 pm | delete
- There's so much amazing information packed into this page. I was just reading an online article yesterday on Forbes about the 10 most inefficient charities. Many of them spend the majority of their donations on their fundraising campaign! (http://www.forbes.com/2010/11/17/charity-10-personal-finance-philanthropy-10-least-efficient-charities_slide_5.html). I would like to link to your page on my lens. This is a really important ethical subject.
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BusinessSarah
Sep 29, 2011 @ 9:29 pm | delete
- This is an incredibly valuable lens. It's far too easy for an organization to use a noble purpose as a smokescreeen and hope people don't think too hard about where their money is going. When I was in grade school, I called the number on the screen one day and asked what percentage of every dollar goes to the children. I was told they weren't allowed to release that information. Lovely.
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Maurice Fuller
Aug 25, 2011 @ 5:56 pm | delete
- The entire charity "industry" is wrong and prohibitively expensive. A far better way to help orphans and children in poverty would be to contact local Christians in the area and arrange foster care in Christian homes with a mom and a dad. Orphanages and other aid through charitable agencies can too easily turn into a money-making racket. Even the sincere ones are too expensive and give care that is greatly substandard compared with foster care in Christian homes.
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John Watts
Aug 6, 2011 @ 3:47 am | delete
- There should be a law created to stop this its criminal.Its theft.
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danielma
Nov 1, 2011 @ 3:02 pm | delete
- The name itself displays what is he doing - A broad minded activity which is called CHARITY, If he cannot think that way, then it is a money making business for him like all other business,. He advertise one photo of very poor sad looking looking child and manipulate people that this money going to that child, whereas he is actually making an dodgy advertisement of his business and he is getting more benefit than the child. Actually everybody starts donating by looking at that child's photograph, without thinking anything else, hoping that it will reach that child. If they really wanted to help those children, arrange with their parents and help them to open a bank account with a trustee of bank and provide us that Bank account Number including international transactions, so that everybody can donate the money and this money then definitely reach to that childs hand. What charity organisations can do is to collect all children's details and their status and they can publish it may be in a website and users can choose to help for someone who really need help and the user can be 100% confident that they are helping the right child and in right way,.
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BSieracki
Jul 16, 2011 @ 6:58 pm | delete
- look up how much the top person at the salvation army or the vfw gets, it will shock you how low.
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Donnette
Jun 23, 2011 @ 2:47 am | delete
- The mind boggles.. we were just chatting the other day about "NPO's" who have exhorbitant admin costs and so what percentage of funds raised ACTUALLY gets to where it's meant to be? Information you have included on this lens needs to be highlighted and emphasized. Thank you.
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kenjennings
Jun 15, 2011 @ 8:24 am | delete
- It's not just the CEO. Where there is a CEO, there is also a CIO, a CFO, a CTO, and likely dozens of other C-type and near C-level people making bucket loads of money. In most corporations these people imagine they are important, but are the greatest liability to the corporation. So called "Top producing CEO"s are rarely accountable for company success or failure -- often the C-level employees receive big bonuses in the same year the company posts a loss and lays off "regular" employee. Even when a C-level employee is ousted it usually comes with a contracted golden parachute giving them more than when they were employed. This is not an organizational model any charity needs to follow.
The argument that the CEO's salary defines all other employees salaries is likewise false and greedy. If a charity can pay a CEO 75K a year, but they need to pay 100K to hire a computer programmer with specific skills then so be it. Where is it written that the CEO's salary must be the maximum around which all other salaries are based? It's just plain greedy.
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Steve Jennings
Jul 30, 2011 @ 2:15 pm | delete
- WOW! I made a similar post just prior to reading your post. You and I basically made the same analysis about the charity scheme. Could it be that is because we share the same last name, Jennings??? There is no nepotism here.
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HokieJeep
Jun 8, 2011 @ 5:20 pm | delete
- Thank you. Most people just don't know.
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Apr 26, 2011 @ 6:48 pm | delete
- You will find that the founder of Nepal Youth Foundation is a retired Lawyer...who probably has a great deal of money to live on anyway. so where you require charities to be trasprent, i think you need to put all the facts out there yourselves too! And now she enjoys a great life giving back...which is fantastic of her...but lets look at those who are not retired and this job they do is the means to support their family and all of their aspirations for a good life, whilst also trying to help others. But, yes, its imorral for them to come into an industry such as this and be money hungry...thats the wrong motivation that this industry should have. Go to the Financial Markets if thats what you are looking for and you are good enough to be a CEO there...if you come over to this side of things, you shouldnt be looking for a bankers salary...but thats not to say you shouldnt be able to earn a reasonable amount if you are good at what you do and as a result are making a difference and adding value! I infact was a banker, only young and left the industry at 30. I have decided to come over to this side of the world and volunteer in the feild. Yes for free, but one day Ill need to start making a living again...as I am now only 32 and have no money! But I will pick fruit this summer back at home, and that will see me through the winter again volunteering out with the children in Guatemala. But one day, Ill prob meet someone, make a family and Ill need to support them! anyway, I have now set up my own charity...this will be my career choice (rather than fruits one season). I want this to be successful and I want it to sustain a lifestyle for me where I can continue to be on the ground helping to make a better life for a child that needs the worlds support...but as a young man, I also need to be thinking ahead...everybodys got to make a living, and if you are doing the best by the world, you deserve ot be paid for it, just like any other job, if not more so! And think of it like this...if there is one CEO who can bring in say 10m, and another who can only bring in 4m...would you not rather pay the first CEO 1m for 9m that will go those i need than the latter, 100k for just 3.9m that will go where its needed? What is your objective here people...to create the most money you can for those whoes lives you want to improve. You do get what you pay for! But again, I stress, the motivation from a CEO shouldnt be about money..I think that would otherwsie be immorral! I am here because I want to help, and the only selfish thing about that is, well, the work I am doing makes me happeier than I ever was behind a desk in the City!
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yourgoldenfuture
Apr 20, 2011 @ 11:30 am | delete
- It was always a discussion on paying the ceos etc... in germany too. The other side I also saw...donors letting their own missionaries/workers etc. living near poverty level - living themselves in all comfort ... arguing on every penny... but 500K is not good to find arguments for...
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Feb 24, 2011 @ 1:26 pm | delete
- You made it!! You submitted this lens for the top Nonprofits Lens section and you made it to the top 5 ... Be sure to go check this page: http://www.squidoo.com/top-5-nonprofits on the first of the month to see what your position in the top 5 is and tell your friends and visitors about it too
Oh but it's not over!!! CONGRATULATION you also made it to the top 5 lens overall section too check it out here http://www.squidoo.com/top-5-lens-overall on the first too
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Jack2205
Feb 16, 2011 @ 7:14 pm | delete
- Helping people should be more important than making a lot of money. Excellent lens. Blessed by the Charities Squid Angel.
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Rafick Jan 29, 2011 @ 2:41 am | delete
- Thank you for this lens. I am absolutely against high salaries for charity CEOs
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Jan 3, 2011 @ 9:04 pm | delete
- Disgusting.Thank you MSE for exposing these scumbags.I am going to favorite this lens so I can keep track of the comment updates.
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phill
Dec 29, 2010 @ 7:23 pm | delete
- would leave the greedy b(*&^%$££rds right in the place where the kids are that they are pretending to care about no escape just some guy trying to hide taking money meant for them and pocketing it and actualy laughing at them the thieving gits and to the CEO i wouldnt wish it on your kids JUST YOU GREEEEEEEEEEDY B*&$(*&^%rds
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Dr.Lucy Mathen, Founder and proud-to-be-unpaid CEO of Second Sight
Dec 12, 2010 @ 2:45 pm | delete
- Hello folks all over the world!
We are ten years old.
We are a volunteer-run zero overheads charity
We cure men women and children who are unnecessarily blind from cataract in the worst areas for poverty and blindness in the world (rural Bihar and Orissa states in India). After ten years of superb efficiency and massive impact for a 'small' charity, we are even more determined to remain volunteer-run and with zero overheads. The behaviour,inefficiency and wasted money we have seen on the part of large organisations working in this same field is staggering. Read my book A Runaway Goat:curing blindness in forgotten India to see that this waste is simply not necesary. It is a complete myth that you have to pay mega bucks to get good people to run charities. I have the finest doctors and all kinds of non-medical volunteers working with me. What drives their perfectionism is not money but the thrill of using their skills where they are most needed. The other part of the equation is a BOTTOM UP approach,listening to the locals and,most importantly the beneficiaries. And NEVER dictating policies from afar.
Read A Runaway Goat and you will never run with the herd again!
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poppy11
Nov 30, 2010 @ 12:34 am | delete
- A useful lens and one that has a message that needs to be got across. I have favourited it to help it rise up through the Squidoo ranks.
My sister in law has just got a job in a charity - after having done voluntary work 5 days a week for months to prove her worth - and found that there were a lot of people queuing up to get the same job. For her, helping people was more important than money and she was happy to take a drop in salary to get the work.
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GeorgeSampress
Sep 19, 2010 @ 4:59 pm | delete
- Wow, you guys are rich. I've worked hard all year round in hard labour for over 10 years and make about 16 000 dollars a year, and still have a college debt to pay off which I can't even make a dent in, and can't afford things like a vehicle, internet, home phone, family, girlfriend, beer, and any extracurricular activities except what is practically free.
Still, anyone of us living in a first world country should feel shock and guilt that there are children in the world that only need $22 a month to survive (not all of which even goes directly to the children)! I should feel guilt... you should feel guilt! We all should! We'll never achieve the standards Christ would like for us, but it is always something we should constantly thrive for. We should support the organizations which understand what poverty is all about! If the CEO lives below the poverty line, all the more reason to support them. As for me, "All God's Children" is a high-rated company on Charity Navigator, whose CEO is the only one that makes less money than me. 95% of their costs go towards program expenses. I will look into them in greater detail.
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Viktoria
Dec 7, 2010 @ 8:42 am | delete
- i see your point of view, but they are still helping those people in need, unlike many of us just chat about it.
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GeorgeSampress
Dec 9, 2010 @ 12:13 am | delete
- Sorry, but I don't understand what you're trying to say here Viktoria.
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The_Health_Lady
Sep 17, 2010 @ 2:59 pm | delete
- I know that some will say that unless they pay the CEO's well they will leave and go to another type of company. However, there are always good people out there who could do the same work but did not with a ridiculously high salary.
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Brad.
Jun 29, 2010 @ 1:12 am | delete
- I read comments left by supporters of high paid CEO's and I read comments left by people offended by the insane salaries of these CEO's. Seems they all have something in common. The people that support it argue that they should not work for free, and the people against it say they should be paid so much. It just seems that some people are really missing the point here. I agree that CEO's of these charitable organizations should be compensated fairly because these top performers produce results. If you paid a CEO $10,000 annually, and he was able to raise $100,000 annually, versus a CEO that was paid $300,000 annually, and brought in $3,000,000 annually, most people would agree that it would make sense to hire the CEO that was paid $300,0000. That doens't make it right though. That same CEO could make an excellent wage, at the top 90 percentile at about $150,000 and could bring in $3,150,000 annually. Anyone that argues that they need to be paid more then that should take a good look in the mirror. Money is not the root of all evil, and people deserve fair compensation. Its the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil, and $300,000+ annually exceeds what any reaonable person would consider fair compensation. I would like to know how much money these CEO's give of their own money. Remember that most of the people that are giving this money, which is going to pay for these CEO's is probably less then $50,000 annually. Its not right. I used to be a big contributor to UNICEF, however, when I hear that Anthony Lake (the new executive director) is making nearly 2 million dollars, I pulled the plug. Most people have limited amounts of disposable income, and when I give my hard earned money to make a difference in kids lives, I'm not expecting 90% of it to go to operating costs. These days I give to the Salvation Army and Doctors without Boarders. Both of them pay their CEO's under $100,000 and these people make a huge impact in peoples lives. Now that you're informed from all the postings here, I urge all donators to look into their carities and stop giving your hard earned money to line the pockets of these fat CEO's and give to organizations that put the bulk of every dollar into services that make a difference.
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Brandy
Oct 19, 2010 @ 11:12 pm | delete
- I think you are right - the issue is being blurred. The mission of organizations such as World Vision is to provide a perspective on equality. We see that even "poverty" in this country is very well off compared to so many other parts of the world. The CEO should be upholding this principle the most. A $500,000 salary is not much compared to other CEOs, but World Vision is not holding the standard to other CEOs, it is holding the standard against the truly impoverished parts of the world. Think for just a minute - if $35 a year can SAVE a child, $350,000 could save 10,000 children a year!!!!!!
The biggest point to drive home is that if we are living in a society where we "need" a 6-digit salary while other people in the world are content with hundreds of times less, then something is wrong and these salaries simply reflect that. The CEO is supposed to embrace these ideals the most otherwise the corporation is merely a sham.
I have donated to World Vision for many years, never thinking of these salaries, and I even had to really stop and think about it for a while before coming to a conclusion. But I realized that if I have learned to be content with less, to conserve and to embrace a lifestyle that puts less emphasis on material goods, consumption and luxury, surely the charity I support should do the same.
These CEOs should go out into the private sector where they can be rewarded better since it is obviously money that they want. I personally don't know if I could live with myself knowing that my family was living better than almost all Americans (who already live better than anyone else on the planet almost) much less allowing tens of thousands of children a year to remain impoverished so that I can have a life of luxury for all my work.
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JCwhimzie
Feb 24, 2011 @ 8:16 am | delete
- Great response!
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Betsey Swire
Jun 18, 2010 @ 9:17 am | delete
- My question to you is have you ever sat on the board of a multinational not for profit or even a local not for profit? It is the job of the Board to determine the salary. If the CEO is bringing in the donors and properly managing the services then he or she is worth the money.
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MSE
Jun 21, 2010 @ 5:46 pm | delete
- Betsey: My question to you is, why does the board or the CEO simply have the courage to inform their donors of the magnitude of the salaries? Why is this information so difficult fo find? I think it is wrong. You think it is right. Why shouldn't we both have the information provided to us so that we have the right to choose? The goal of this site is to inform people of how these so called "not for profits" are spending their donations so that people can make the right decisions. I will not donate to an organization which uses its donations this way but now that you know what they are doing, if you want to support that it is your choice.
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LPR
Jul 22, 2010 @ 12:18 am | delete
- No, they are not entitle to take advantage of the generosity of the contributors! They are entitle to a reasonable salary not a corporate salary.
And yes I have been a board member.
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Brandy
Oct 19, 2010 @ 11:13 pm | delete
- If the CEO is suckering in the donors to pay for his salary, then he is worth the money. Well said. Would Jesus take $500,000 a year for his services?
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TertiusBester
Jun 14, 2010 @ 7:23 am | delete
- At Meals on Wheels in South Africa, executives receive far less. There is also very limited government funding. You can follow them on at www.twitter.com/mowaged
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Meals on Wheels
Jun 14, 2010 @ 7:20 am | delete
- That is extremely high. Executives of Meals on Wheels receive far less. All funds raised is privately raised. You can follow us on www.twitter.com/mowaged. Follow us on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/pages/mow/275216323827
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brad
Jun 29, 2010 @ 1:17 am | delete
- oh come on... seriously. as of 2007, your ceo was making $205,560. I'm sure its right up there by now. So how much is far less than $300,000? $299,999.99?
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auscause
May 29, 2010 @ 5:46 am | delete
- there is also a very nice way to help children.
we are also working for children charity if you you want to contribute. you can do.with us
we have a online shopping facility we have more than 500 stores in our network you just shop with us and we donate a portion of your purchase for charity to your favorite cause.
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Carol
May 18, 2010 @ 2:56 pm | delete
- I believe that CEOs should receive fair compensation, BUT anything over $100,000. per year is TOO MUCH. My income is just $30,000. so I intend to investigate the salaries executives of the organizations I support and adjust my giving appropriately.
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Jess
Feb 10, 2011 @ 3:05 pm | delete
- Carol,
You cannot compare you salary to that of a CEO of a company unless that is the title you hold. For-profit companies make far more than that, and $250k a year is reasonable for someone that over-sees an international organization.
$100k a year would probably barely cover the cost of their student loans and travel expenses, let alone afford them a non-impoverished life.
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