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Can the Democratics Present a United Front in the Fall?

The race is between the two leading democratic contenders--Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton--has been one not seen in recent history, nearly splitting the Democratic Party between the two presidential hopefuls.

I've updated the lens to give you a chance to weight in on the split between the Democratic Party. Do you think they will be able to present a united front come the fall, to win over the Republican Nominee John McCain?

Note: I have listed the Candidates in a different order every time I put them together.

Image Sources: Senator Barack Obama's Website. and Senator Hillary Clinton's Website.

And the Winner is....

Barack Obama

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The race is between the two leading democratic contenders--Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton--has been one not seen in recent history, nearly splitting the Democratic Party between the two presidential hopefuls.

Do You Think that the Democratic Party Can Unite?

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Of course, they'll present a united front to beat McCain.

spirituality says:

I really think (and hope) Hillary supporters will get over being offended and support Obama. After all, do they really want to support a candidate who is FOR continuing the war in Iraq?

No Way. There's been too much bad blood.

 
 
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Hillary Clinton's Speech on June 7 YouTube  

Hillary Speaks in Washington, DC June 7

Hillary thanks her supporters for all their hard work on the campaign and endorses Senator Barack Obama for president.

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Who will be the Democratic Nominee?

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Hillary Clinton!

Annettesav says:

America WAKE UP!! We cant afford to drive to work, we need someone who knows the game and can win for struggling Americans! We NEED HILARY! We dont need 4 More years! WE NEED A BREAK!!!! Vote for ChANGE - VOTE for Hilary! The woman is made of ROCK!

Annettesav says:

If Americans were smart, they would put up a candidate who will beat McCain, which is Hilary Clinton.

feliniti says:

Hillary for President.

She is the one who knows how to turn the economy around.
Hillary == Solutions.
Obama == Idealisms

TheCandleLady says:

I don't think Obama has the experience to lead the country, but Hillary sure does!!

fireheart says:

I have to go with Hillary cuz all my male buddies go white faced at the mention of her being Pres. Can't go with Obamer cuz I don't think a situation that gives the REV's Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson greater access to the Oval Office is going to make this a better country.

LouVozza says:

Hillary ! She may not be as eloquent a speaker as Obama but she has substance in her policies. That's what matters. i hear a little too much rhetoric from Obama.

GOLDENCAT25 says:

SAY NO TO MUSLIMS IN THE UNITED STATES GOVERMENT
PEOPLE MUST BE BLIND TO VOTE FOR OBAMA
GET A CLUE

PollieSigh says:

I agree that Obama has gotten an absolutely FREE pass from the mainstream liberal media. I am not a Democrat but I feel sorry for Hillary- The press has greased up Obama so well that nothing bad sticks to him. Unfortunately, you have to go to the internet to find out what Obama really stands for. (You can start on my page) It's scary how the liberals- especially the youth are being preyed upon and rounded up en masseto blindly follow the very scary, communist-islamic-black separatist wolves in sheeps clothing, Obama Cultists. (And people had the "audacity" to criticize Romney and the Mormons?)

socialguytoy says:

Shame on the New York Times for smearing McCain while giving Obama a free pass to plagiarize other politicians' speeches. Wow, "all the news that's fit to print" my a$$.

Comfortdoc says:

It's not over until all of the Delegates have been counted.

socialguytoy says:

Barack Obama has no experience to run this country. Also, as many have stated, he is all speeches and it now turns out those aren't even his! Liberals, wake up and smell the coffee! Clinton has experience, and women out there, shame on you because it is time for a female president. Also, there was no better combination than a Democratic president and a Republican congress in recent memory. Clinton knew good ideas when he saw them and each branch of the government kept the other in check. Obama will just hand our country over to the terrorists. Don't vote for him because you like his tie or because he's half black or half white depending on your preference!

jeffwend says:

I am voting Republican, but of the Dems, I'd rather see Hillary in office as she is more of a hawk and is more experienced. Obama seems way to naive about foreign affairs.
Obama's message is change. But in his case it would be change for the worse as he bankrupts the nation as he causes everyone to become dependent on the government to make their decisions for them.

Rossman says:

WHO Cares!!,

You Commie Maggots will finally get over your emotion-drenched delusions of socialized health care and the right to kill unborn babies and the people of the United States will make a rational decision by electing a Republican.

As for Obama - We need to hear something more substantive than a need for change. The charector, Percy Gardiner (from the movie 'Being There') come to mind when I think of this guy.

As For Hillary - She has 35 years experience doing what? - The details do not exist. Besides, do you really want her scum bag husband in the White House, again

JanaMurray says:

Do you really believe we have any say so in the matter? Are you that naive, I guess if you like fascism you will be quite satisfied. Both candidates are not viable. Sad state of affairs.

rms says:

I'd love to see a woman president!

Comfortdoc says:

Hillary was the front runner two weeks ago. She's come from behind before.

Barack Obama!

Comfortdoc says:

and the Winner is...Barack Obama

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Although one cannot argue the fact that Obama is losing credibility as a candidate, I certainly would not rule him out as President. The real issues that people are having with Obama is not really the statements he makes or his pastor, but rather America still has the white supremacy ideology thus, having a Black President would destroy such idealism. This is also displayed in Hillary Clinton's campaign,where she makes racial statements but in a technical form. In other words, she is simply stating that America does not want a Black Leader.Look at the statements she constantly makes by saying Obama is not experienced enough to run America ( which I believe is an insult!). What makes her experienced? Is it the fact that she was former first lady thus giving her a reason for her to be elected President of the United States? We had enough of the Clintons! I do not think we need anymore drama plaguing the White House. Despite all the challenges Obama faces, I beleive if he is given the chance to run America, he would be representing what America is and the time has come for America to change. That change is definitely Obama, that change is NOW!!

greg2213 says:

Since Hillary is totally corrupt I think that will be her downfall. Obama, clueless waif that he is, at least appears to be, on the surface anyway, an upstanding citizen.

Neither is anyone I'd ever vote for, but Obama certainly has the charisma that she lacks.

I don't think "experience" is really an issue. Otherwise the only people who'd be qualified to run for Pres are state governers.

T_Mac says:

Of the Dems, I think Obama will get the nod. I don't think either will defeat McCain in November (imho). But it ain't over until all the votes have been counted ... twice ... no three times ....

Comfortdoc says:

At the rate they are going, Obama and Clinton are going to cancel each other out by the time of the general election and John McCain will be elected.

IncubationStudios says:

OBAMA, will bring this country together. We need to end the Bush, Clinton Regime.

affiliateelitediscount says:

Between the two I would be for Obama.

However when it comes down to final election time for president, unfortunately neither Democratic candidate fits the profile that is dictated by the "powers that be" and have the true voting power so it's sad to think that the only choice would then be McCain.

ADadWorkingAtHome says:

Obama should be, and if the DNC weren't prone to "grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory" they would pressure Clinton to back out now.

Look at the numbers, and consider the polls that show 50% or more of the people that voted for Obama in the primary would NOT vote for Clinton in the general election.

I'm one of them, and so are many of my friends and colleagues.

Just in Texas alone that would mean 750,000 less votes for the Democrats; more than McCain got in total for the primary.

The thing that boggles my mind, about Clinton and McCain, is they think what they say will resonate with independents and moderates.

To Hillary: I do think judgement exceeds experience when it comes to answering the red phone; so does Casey. I don't think you'll listen to your advisors, your too stubborn and sel righteous.

To McCain: There is no way to honorably exit a war that is dishonorable in the first place, and no way to win a war that has no defined parameters for winning.

SemperFidelis says:

Well, I am a Republican, but if we lose the election, I would like to see Obama govern the country!

coollikeme says:

McCain will be are next President. Democratic nominee does not really mean anything anyway.

coollikeme says:

McCain will be are next President. Democratic nominee does not really matter.

fefe says:

Obama seems to have gained some steam but I guess we'll find out this week if Hillary can win Texas... I don't like either one though.

spirituality says:

My bet is on Obama, though I think Hillary is better qualified.

davewashere says:

Obama will win the nomination. I hope he doesn't choose Hillary as his running mate. Edwards would be a good choice because he's got rich connections but he fights for the poor. Plus, he's from the south

vaber says:

Obama is a fresh breath of air and can pull together a team that reflects diversity. Hillary will represent the same old centrist view and "maternalism/paternalism" at its worse. She is not trustworthy. As a independent, I believe that Obama offers a chance for people to come together to fight for real change and to commit to the future of this country. I believe that the American people will see beyond the same stereotypic rhetoric that the Clinton's have used with the American people. I believe that Obama will do as any good leader would do, assess his strength and draw upon the best minds in the country to move us t the next level of progress. I do not think that Hillary has the capacity, fortitude or integrity to bring folks together for the common good. She is standing on the shoulder of her husband rather than coming to terms with her own ideas. I think that she is clueless and I do not trust her. She is an opportunistic woman who plays the role of damsel in distress and can switch her stance as she did on the issue of Iraq. She is truly brazen.

delelysj says:

I would like to see Obama.

Comfortdoc says:

Hillary should give up. The handwriting is on the wall.

bdkz says:

I liked John Edwards but Obama is my second choice!

larrybla says:

Barack should be. His approach to bring disparate people together for the best interest of the country not special interest or political parties has a universal appeal and should propel him to capture the nomination. Thanks for asking!

MaxM says:

Hillary is just unlikable.
Barack seems very passionate.

 
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"We are electing the leader of the free world, and that person has a finger on the nuclear launch code. It's not about likability."

Professor Veronica Tonay
University of California at Santa Cruz

Comparing the Presidential Election to American Idol 

To Veronica Tonay, 48, a psychology professor at the University of California at Santa Cruz and a Clinton supporter, Obama has become a pop star, the contestant on "American Idol" who wins votes because he's cute, while the best singer is eliminated.

"We are electing the leader of the free world, and that person has a finger on the nuclear launch code," she said. "It's not about likability."

Her stance was cemented when a young woman in one of her classes declared that she wouldn't vote for Clinton because "she is not a beautiful woman."

Source: Krissah Williams. May 19, 2008. Clinton-Obama Grudges Linger For Some Voters Washington Post.

President or American Idol? You Decide 

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It's a popularity contest.

Comfortdoc says:

While I was happy to support Idol Gives back, I am really not crazy about the Presidential election turning into the search for a "Presidential American Idol."

The public knows the difference.

 
 
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The Presidential Candidates on Idol Gives Back on YouTube 

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Obama & Clinton | Clinton & Obama 

The Unbeatable Ticket?

In January about two weeks before the most recent thoughts surfaced in the media, when it was clear that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama both had very different followings, I thought that it would make a lot of sense for the Democratic Party if these two could put aside their differences and run on a ticket together.

A week later, the media started 'buzzing' about the Democratic Dream Team.


The potential Democratic presidential primary matchup between Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama is raising concerns in GOP circles that it might be an unbeatable ticket.

The Dream Ticket

Her experience. His charm and fundraising ability. His support among liberals, independents and black voters. Her hold on white female voters, low-income Democrats, and Latinos.

With energized Democrats facing a difficult choice between two historic, formidable candidates vying to be the nation's first black or first women president, some have suggested that the two join forces on a single Democratic "dream ticket."

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An Obama-Clinton, Clinton-Obama ticket would be awesome! 

Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama could lead to a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket that might just be unbeatable.

What do you think about these two Democratic candidates joining forces on one ticket?

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Great idea!

Comfortdoc says:

Now they are saying that Obama is open to the idea.

agentjason says:

Would work well as Clinton-Obama

Comfortdoc says:

With voters coming out in force for Hillary and no candidate clearly having the majority of the delegates, is a joint ticket starting to make more sense as a way to unify the Democratic party.

spirituality says:

I love the idea, but is Hillary really going to stand being second in command? I can't really picture it.

Comfortdoc says:

These two have split the democratic party almost in two in their run to be the nominee. Running together on the same ticket might be one way to heal the rift in the Democratic Party...if it isn't already too late.

Christene says:

That would rock.

Comfortdoc says:

I'd like to see the two of them run on the same ticket.

No Way!

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Please, like that will happen!

docmurphy says:

Obama/Biden or Obama/Richardson Hillary is mean.

affiliateelitediscount says:

Will never happen. Individual egos are waaayyyy to big...

ScottPlayer says:

Unfortunately, the pools have shown that there are many voters who will not vote for Clinton because she is a woman and those who will not vote for Obama because he is African American. Politics aside, this combination will likely alienate too many voters to win.

ADadWorkingAtHome says:

In a Clinton-Obama ticket I don't think having him in the secondary seat would do much to bring people around to Clinton.

In an Obama-Clinton ticket I don't think she brings anyone to the table. For the most part Clinton supporters are Democrats and would walk the party line against McCain anyway.

In either case if the Democrats won I think she would only bog things down; not listening to a VP Obama and sabotaging a President Obama.

She talks the unifying talk, but when you watch her walk, it's all her baby, no one else counts (unless they help her get a political office, of course).

fefe says:

They seem like they hate each other.

LouVozza says:

Who's prez and who's VP ? I doubt that either of their egos would allow them to be #2. Plus, it really seems as if they don't like each other very much.

socialguytoy says:

Ahh... Let's say it together: The liberals said that Bush Jr. had no experience and did not know what he was doing. The liberals are backing Obama who has no experience at all. Double standard? Yes, it is. Hillary on the other hand has Bill and he worked very well with a Republican congress to get this country on the right track. Who says Republicans and Democrats can't work together. Oh, PS - please abolish the two party system, it's time already.

beanbun says:

Nah, neither one really presents any new or different ideas in any special way to complement the other. Abraham Lincoln surrounded himself with many different peole in his cabinet, I suspect Barack or Hillary would do the same.

mulberry says:

Not a bad idea, might balance out weaknesses but I can't see either really settling for VP.

irregularworld says:

It's the best possible ticket - if Clinton is on the top, and she's not going to be. No way could Barack Obama operate as President with Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton causing trouble from the Vice President's office.

lisadh says:

Personally, I'd love to see a woman and an African American run the country, but I think it would be a bad idea for a Democratic ticket. If conservative Republicans won't even vote for McCain because he's too liberal (?!?!), then they'll be out in droves to defeat the most liberal ticket the Dems have ever put up. The red states would freak out... and the Dems would lose again.

Rossman says:

It will be a cage match - Two go in, only one will come out!!

JanaMurray says:

Disastrous! Completely tragic...

 
 
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She Said... He Said...

What Game are We Playing?

 

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Nate Beeler. February 20, 2008. Obama vs. Clinton. San Francisco Examiner.

"I am absolutely outraged with the media coverage of the presidential campaign. This is the most important election in my long lifetime, and to quote one of my favorite movies,

'I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!'"

Walter Shorenstein in a memo
Founder of the Joan Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University

Express Your Opinion on the Media 

Do you think there has been a media bias in this election?

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There has been a bias.

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I agree with fefe!

fefe says:

The media is always biased.

Comfortdoc says:

I think there has been a positive towards Obama and a negative bias towards Clinton. I think that the recent SNL (Saturday Night Live) sketches were spot on target.

The media has been neutral.

ADadWorkingAtHome says:

I think the media has been neutral in that they report only on what they feel will bring in viewers.

Overall the media have no meaningful insight and are, top to bottom, sitcom to news room, first and foremost an entertainment medium catering to the lowest common denominator; which has become quite low indeed.

Comfortdoc says:

It looks like the press is shifting and actually starting to ask Obama some tough questions.

 
 
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Media Bias in the 2008 Election 

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The 2008 Dream Team

Rosie Thoughts on the Dream Team 

...so far I find both candidates believable. They are different, with a different mix of talents to bring to the political table, but they both seem to have the passion, plans, drive, and intelligence I want in my next president.

Could a Clinton-Obama or Obama-Clinton ticket be our future? I hope so. I think America would benefit from the strengths of either individual, but if those strengths were combined, we might just have the Democratic powerhouse the country needs to turn itself around, and back into peace, prosperity and opportunity.

May they both release the desire to receive for oneself alone - and save the world together.


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fefe wrote...

One of the worst democratic tickets imaginable!

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Loyalis wrote...

Honestly, the debate between these two kind of makes me sad. While Obama is definitely more 'electable' than Clinton, they both want to tax people into oblivion. People can take care of themselves, government was not created to support individuals, it was created to protect the nation...

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