A Yoga Cult?
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Contents at a Glance
- Names and Terms Related to the Dahn Organization
- What is a cult?
- My Thoughts About Dahn Yoga
- What is Love Bombing?
- Dahn Videos
- A discussion on Twitter about Dahn
- Is Dahn a Cult? What is Your Opinion.
- About "Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes"
- Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes
- Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
- Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
- Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
- Reader feedback
Names and Terms Related to the Dahn Organization
- BodyNBrain
- Brain Respiration
- Dahn Yoga
- Dahn Hak
- Dahn Tao
What is a cult?
My opinion about Dahn as a cult
My problem is with cults that systematically exploit and exert control over its members. Groups like this exist and evidence points to Dahn as being one of them.
With Dahn, it is so easy to look the other way because if you're just enjoying classes there you don't have to see anything wrong. You may even be grateful to Dahn for changing your life for the better. But have you thought of the lives of your Masters? It is the leaders and instructors that appear to be exploited here. Just because Dahn yoga makes you feel good doesn't mean it isn't fueling a dangerous organization.
Links relevant to Dahn Yoga
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The Ohmtastic Blog
A blog posting about Dahn and comments in response.0 points
Qigong Association: Healing Society/Dahn Institute
Hundreds of forum posts about Dahn.0 points
Viewing a thread - Dahn Yoga Experience :: the yoga.com forums
Dahn Yoga Experience in the yoga.com discussion forums.0 points
Is Dahn Yoga Linked to a Cult?
Your yoga center may be more than it seems. I'm convinced that the Dahn organization is, at it's center a dangerous cult. I am hoping that the informa...0 points
Dahn Yoga information: how to distribute your life energy within the body
The roots of Dahn Yoga cult or Dahn Hak practice extend five thousand years back into the ancient Korean history. It was designed as an ancient Korean...0 points
My Thoughts About Dahn Yoga
A little about why I created this page
I applied for a job with Dahn. I was excited about having a job that could integrate my physical and spiritual well being. Because I was applying for a job, all of my classes were free. I was never pressured to buy anything but I chose to buy a uniform because they looked very comfortable and I wanted to show that I was serious about applying for the job.
I left Dahn abruptly, shortly after getting my energy reading. It really was just based on a gut feeling that something wasn't right. I have been part of a harmful religious cult before and I started to notice some similarities. Sure enough, a quick google search confirmed for me that Dahn is a cult. Some of what I read about this organization was truly heartbreaking and there are too many separate accounts to just dismiss.
I just want to backtrack a little to mention that the previous cult was a totally different type of organization. It was a Christian church and I was recruited by a fellow student. I am mentioning this because I don't reserve the word cult just for Dahn because it comes from a foreign culture. There are harmful American based cults as well.
So for me this is just based on a feeling and some internet research. My guess is that the average student can take classes from a Dahn Yoga Center and get real benefit from it. It seems that for some, those on track to become Masters and instructors, may be on a path to joining a cult.
What is Love Bombing?
Love bombing is the deliberate show of affection or friendship by an individual or a group of people toward another individual. Critics have asserted that this action may be motivated in part by the desire to recruit, convert or otherwise influence.
As of 2005, the phrase can be used in two slightly different ways.
*Members of the Unification Church, and perhaps members of other groups, use or have used the phrase themselves to mean a genuine expression of friendship, fellowship, interest, or concern.
*Critics of cults use the phrase with the implication that the "love" is feigned and the practice is manipulative. "Love bombing" is often cited by critics as one of the methods used by some cults and religions to recruit and retain members.
Dahn Videos
A discussion on Twitter about Dahn
What do you know about Dahn yoga? Is it linked to a cult?
I say...
What others are saying...
Is Dahn a Cult? What is Your Opinion.
I would like to hear any thoughts about Dahn Yoga or comments on this lens. I am open to all views and I will not censor those who I disagree with. Statements based on experience are greatly welcomed.
Is Dahn a Cult
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Brad says:
I have been fighting to get a loved one out of this organization for almost two years. I can give you dozens of examples of how she's been exploited and used by this organization and dozens more on how she's changed for the worse. STAY AWAY from the group. Spend your money elsewhere.
Posted July 08, 2009
Dahn? Ick! says:
From a major news station in Chicago last week:
http://cbs2chicago.com/investigations/dahn.yoga.cult.2.1049155.html
Posted June 23, 2009
Dahn? Ick! says:
From San Francisco's CBS station on June 22, 2009:
http://cbs5.com/local/dahn.yoga.lawsuit.2.1055325.html
Posted June 23, 2009
myah says:
http://www.newdahn.com/usa/
click lawsuit or "american master's story"
Posted June 16, 2009
Lynn says:
This was the lead story on Boston's CBS news station tonight. Be sure to watch the video which can be accessed on the right side of the page:
This was the lead story on Boston's CBS station tonite. Please be sure to also watch the video, which can be accessed on the right side of the page:
http://wbztv.com/local/Dahn.Yoga.Healing.2.1041584.html
Posted June 11, 2009
No
Current Dahn Member says:
24 EX Dahn Masters sued Dahn and Grand Master Ilchi Lee last weekend. Please check ABC News. Dahn Spokesman said it's frivolous, very confident that the truth will be revealed in court. I hope everythig will be cleared for future Dahn Center. Grand Master is just a man, he loves money, woman, sex, like regular man. The problem is All Dahn Masters trust and treat him as a God. Also Dahn's management is so poor to their employees, Masters and Instructors. They should provide enough salary and benefit to them. Everybody, this Dahn is business, very bad business. Don't pay extra money even pure, nice master is asking more money for upper training. Say NO. Dahn Masters, please think your life and live well, you need enough money, insurance, 401K and high quality of your life.
Don't forget your family, friends, don't give up your education and career. Dahn is not cult, you can quit and leave anytime. You don't have to have Vision or Mission.
You are born for be happy in this current life and always smile, appreication, and be positive.
Posted June 02, 2009
Alejandra says:
Thank you Dahn member for your perspective. It makes a lot of sense what you say. I do believe that not everyone has a secret agenda behind what they do and that there is true healers in the world; but is the vulnerable state you can be at that time, the one that hurts you the most. And you are right we have to keep in mind IT IS A BUSINESS; and it is treated as one.
Posted May 29, 2009
Dahn Member says:
Yes or No. It is very difficult. Dahn Yoga is spiritual business. 100% business. I know Sol well. Maybe you met her at Long Beach Convention Center. Everybody has healing energy and healer, that is true. I feel very sorry for young Dahn Yoga Masters, Instructors, they are working 24 hours 7 days a week for this Dahn Yoga Mission and Vision.
Dahn Yoga vision is collecting money $$ for opening more Yoga Center and recruit young members for Dahn Instructor.
Amy, I am so sorry, but you opened your eyes and live own your life now. Dahn yoga is not cult but business. I can advice that only exercises and medition, Say NO for expensive Healing session from Dahn Masters. young members, please think well, Dahn Yoga center cannot save the Earth, cannot save your life, do not forget about your family, friends, your education. I am afraid these Korean Insutructors don't know how to business in the USA at all.
Posted May 22, 2009
Kate says:
Anything can be a cult if you are willing to give up thinking and questioning. I joined Dahn Yoga two months ago with the hope it would help my arthritis. I paid $1200 for 6 months unlimited classes plus several all day workshops. It has helped tremendously. Yes, they are pushy to try to get me to buy and do more stuff. I say NO--like to any marketing of anything I don't want. I've heard some claims about Ilchi Lee that are just pure bullsh__--like he went without food, water and sleep for 21 days seeking enlightenment. I don't think it's any more cultlike than that hallowed institution that would be anathema to call a cult--some (note I say some) Christian churches. I've seen more abuses in non-denominational Christian churches than Dahn Yoga. Just use your brain for more than respiration--like to use discernment and say NO.
Posted April 03, 2009
Irene says:
I am an American immigrated from Hong Kong. The exercises and philosophy taught by Dahn yoga was not unfamiliar to me at all. atthe end of the day, yoga, tai chi and martial arts in its pure form points to spiritual awakening. Dahn Yoga takes a difficult route to do this complete training in the western world. Unfortunately the culture and mind set here always classfy right or wrong, you or me etc. Anything not classified as mainstream becomes cult. Only a certain type of lifestyle is considered to be the right way: study hard, get a degree
married with a few kids, earn enough money to buy a house, pay off the house and retire with enough 401k etc. Any other value beyond this pattern becomes weired or cult like if it invoves spiritual quest. Dahn yoga does not ask people to do any bad things. Most people become healthier and happier. Those who said it was a cult is all because it involves money. Firstly even a Karate class costs more than $100 per month for our kids. I had signed a 3 year contract for my daughter to do Karate with the goal to get a black belt. Then why doing yoga with the same amount is becoming a big deal. This is from a pure business perspective. From spiritual perspective, all spirtual quest involves a letting go some type of attachment...this is in all cultures no matter it is religous or not. Please read Alchemist and see how the main character find his path!
Posted January 16, 2009
Dahn Wiki
Dahn yoga (also known as Dahn Hak or Dahnhak) is a Korean yoga system founded by Ilchi Lee. In Korean, dahn means "primal, vital energy," and hak means "study of a particular theory or philosophy." Dahn teachings are said to place equal emphasis on physical, emotional, and spiritual well-being. News sources have described its exercises as "a blend of yoga, tai chi, and martial arts exercises."
About "Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes"
Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes
Part 1
If you are in Dahn now, either as an enthusiastic member with mostly/only super postive experiences thus far, or if you are one of the members who are being groomed to become a master, or if you are actually an instructor (instructors used to be called "masters" but the organization recently changed that practice), and you are reading this, I say to you:
I know you are probably going to dismiss what I am saying as nonsense from someone who is "unenlightened" or just "not getting it," even though I've probably been involved much longer than you have. You have been conditioned to think this way by the group leaders. Your critical thinking process has been systematically disengaged, in such a masterful way, that you (an intelligent, thoughtful person) aren't even aware of it. But I do know this. In the back of your brain, there is still some small voice that is questioning and wondering if this is all true, if Dahn is for real...
Only a very small handful of members don't have that questioning voice in their brains, and these people are truly the victims in all of this. That small group are called by those who have left "the lifers." The lifers may never get out. And I pray for them, I do. But you. YOU know that you have that small critical voice still inside. It's been supressed and buried as much as possible. You've been taught to regard it as "resistance" and laziness and "negative information" and any number of blocks your ego is throwing up to keep your soul from growing. What you don't know now is that that small critical voice in your head is what is going to save you in the end. It is a blessing, and later you will be very grateful for it.
You see, you have taken all of these classes and trainings thru Dahn, thru your center and Sedona, and maybe you've even gone to Korea, and as a result, it's like a voice (another voice) has been implanted in your brain that constantly filters and analyzes everything you see and hear thru the Dahn belief system. So I already know in advance how your brain is going to immediately dismiss what I am saying. If you can't find an explanation for my assertions, then you will just shut your mind down entirely and will refuse to think about it at all. And you'll go on your merry way.
But I know you. I WAS you. For many, many years. And I know that behind that voice implanted by the Dahn belief system, is the real you, that critical voice you've been taught to disregard. That voice will read what I am saying here and will wonder if it's actually true. You will wonder. You will probably dismiss, for now. But you WILL wonder.
Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
Part 2
I have come to understand that people walking in the door are usually groomed in one of two ways: either you're an enthusiastic member repeatedly pushed to pay lots of money for healing sessions and workshops, including repeated trips to Sedona. This is the group that is solely being used for money. These people are usually middle-aged or older and out of shape when they join. They will end up giving THOUSANDS of dollars to Dahn.
The other group is smaller. These are the young, bright, vibrant people who are recruited to be instructors. They usually don't have much money (although they will be pushed to open multiple credit card accounts and to ask their families for money). They are wanted for their ENERGY. One of the most interesting things I learned about cults is that they specifically target strong, vibrant people (not weaklings) because they know these will make the most enthusiastic, charismatic leaders who can convince others to join.
So you might be reading this post and a member of either group 1 or group 2. If you're in group 1, you're only going to be shown the most positive aspects of the group. Your experiences will be controlled in such a way by the group leaders that they are only positive, and that is because they want you to keep shelling out that money. It is amazing to behold the number of wealthy, middle-aged members of Dahn. It is common knowledge now that Dahn only opens centers in wealthy, white-bread neighborhoods. However, if you're in this group, observe the way that Dahn has completely engulfed your life. The instructors push you to do all kinds of trainings, and to spend most of your time at the center. Sure, the exercises make you feel quite good, but notice how doing them has begun to take up such large amounts of your time. Also notice that if you are hesistant to do the next in a long line of expensive trainings, you will be made to understand by the instructor that your reasons for hesitating are not valid. Ever. You are told that it's "your choice," but take note of the way they react when you say no. Watch and observe carefully.
Group 2 members are the true victims of mind control, and that is what people must understand who are criticizing Dahn. The young instructors running these centers are victims themselves. They are to be pitied, not attacked. Imagine the trauma their families feel at having lost a son/daughter/wife/husband/sister/brother to this organization.
Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
Part 3
Here are some of the things I have learned in the last 6 weeks:
The business model for the American Dahn system is a Ponzi scheme. This is similar to a pyramid scheme. This is what Madoff was recently jailed for. A Ponzi scheme operates with a central figurehead at the top (Ilchi Lee). The next 2 or 3 levels of the pyramid (his closest associates - most of whom are shadow figures who you will never meet) are the only ones making money. And they are making MILLIONS, buying real estate left and right, creating many new "front groups" (another classic cult hallmark) and enterprises. Going down and down the pyramid, you get to levels, say, 8 and 9. These are the people who are MAKING the money for those at the top. These are the people who are in charge of the grunt work, the sweat, the labor, and most importantly, bringing new recruits into the scheme. The level 8 and 9 people are the Dahn instructors running the centers. These people work 100 hours a week for little money. They sleep 3 to 5 hours a night. They live in communal housing. Almost every moment of their time is given to inventing ways to make more $$$ for their center and for Dahn. In Dahn language, they are working for their "vision."
In this context, the way to convince a level 8 and 9 person on the pyramid to work like this, constantly and endlessly, to maximize profits and bring in new members, is to impose an elaborate belief system, something they can passionately and fervently believe in, a religion (if you will), that they will defend to the end. Also necessary is to utilize techniques of mind control in order to disengage their critical thinking processes. Again, I point anyone interested in this subject to the book "Combatting Cult Mind Control," which can be ordered off Amazon.
Forty percent of the income at Dahn centers is given to Ilchi Lee, and the center instructors assume it's for opening new centers and other programmatic expenses. What is kept from them is that much of this money is for the personal enrichment of Lee and the people on the next 2 or 3 levels of the pyramid. Evidence of this is everywhere, and devoted members don't want to see it.
Many of you may have been in Sedona and seen Ilchi Lee's Hummer and his entourage of personal attendants who travel with him (usually anonymous, interchangeable Korean men in business suits). If you went so far as to inquire why Lee drives this expensive, environmentally-unfriendly vehicle, you were probably told that he needs it for the difficult terrain around Sedona, or that he needs it for "protection." Right? But if you really take some space and sit and think about this situation, you will see that your first impulse was correct, after all: there IS something not right about Lee's being driven around in a Hummer. In the context of the Dahn belief system, it doesn't fit. And your rational brain immediately sensed this. But the group leaders are experts at convincing you to distrust your own intuition and to conclude that there are things going on at higher levels in the group that you don't need to understand or question.
I can look back now in amazement at the way I "turned off my brain" in these sorts of situations and meekly accepted the explanations given me by the group leaders. And how ironic that Dahn is all about "waking up your brain"! The cognitive dissonance and groupthink are rampant.
The imposing of a spiritual belief system over a Ponzi scheme business model in order to rake in millions is really, truly genius. Lee and his associates should be congratulating themselves. They've done a great job, haven't they? Let's have a round of applause for them. Bravo, boys!
The most troubling aspect of what I have recently learned is definitely painful to write and to think about, but I believe it's important to air it out and let it see the light of day. I have become aware of an entire network of women who have been sexually abused by Ilchi Lee.
For those who are reading this and are still heavily involved with Dahn, I know your brain is going to try to filter out and dismiss what I am saying as untrue. I know this because for years my brain did the same thing when I was presented with similar info (being rumors on the Internet). But for the first time, this info was presented to me in a way that I could not dismiss, because it was coming from people that I personally know and trust, not just strangers on the Internet.
Yes, it is true. I personally know a young American woman who claims to have been raped by Ilchi Lee. And I believe her. She is one of the last peope in the world I could imagine fabricating such a story. Through her, and through other connections, I have become aware that there are many such woman who assert that they were coerced into sex by Lee. Let's just take some space for a moment and sit and really think about this.
I will say it again: There are many such woman who assert that they were coerced into sex by Lee. How truly powerful is that statement? Now, if you are still heavily involved in Dahn, your brain is going to be busily at work right now, filtering what I am saying thru the Dahn belief system so that you will dismiss my words or tune them out. I don't need you to be convinced, because I am confident that down the road, when you yourself are ready to walk, you will be ready for this information, and it will come to you. You will be ready for that red pill. All that you really need to remember right now is that there is such a concept as mind control, and this: that when you do leave Dahn, even though you REALLY don't believe it now, your life is going to improve so much. You can't see it now, but Dahn has taken the world AWAY from you, and by leaving, you will get it back. You will get back a resolute faith in yourself and your own strength.
Try to go back and remember, if you can, when you first walked into a Dahn center. Try to remember the way that you felt (physically, emotionally, etc.) and who you were at that time. Now, no doubt, Dahn (the exercise practice) has made many improvements in your life. I read many accounts by people with disease and illness and Dahn exercise classes have really helped them to feel better and to build physical strength. The fact that the exercise program is so beneficial is Ilchi Lee's biggest ally, because when members hear cult accusations about Dahn, their brains immediately bombard them with memories of how crappy they felt before they started doing the practice, and how good they feel when they leave class, and they conclude the accusations must be false. More advanced members think about how fabulous they feel after workshops, or the loving, Buddha-like qualities of the group leaders.
What members don't understand is that, within the classic cult hierarchy, the group leaders are ALWAYS described as these loving, compassionate, kind, Buddha-like creatures. This is exactly how members of the Moonies described the leaders of THEIR group, and the Hare Krishnas, and so on. I now believe that radiating that Buddha-like state is a practiced and cultivated habit that anyone can become good at. The instructors interact with dozens of members a day and thus become very, VERY good at this. What is important is how they are behind closed doors, when paying members aren't around, and I know that they are as human as you or me, and no more "enlightened" than anyone else.
Now, in the beginning, terms such as "dahn jon" were unfamiliar to you and sounded silly, and you may have dismissed as hooey their pushing you to try this or that. Eventually, though, you gave in, and you found that - hey! boy oh boy! - they were right! You feel so much better!
And in this way, your resistance to the group's doctrine begins to be worn down. Remember, you are being led down a path, shown new things in incremental steps, and given info about the belief system in small doses at a time. After you allow them to lead you those first few steps, when you're still a newbie and all that Korean terminology is new and strange, and you figure out that what they're telling you, thus far, is actually quite true, and following their instructions results in positive changes in your health and state of mind, you start to doubt yourself. Let me repeat: This is when you start to doubt yourself and your own intuition. As you go farther down the path, more and more info they're telling you is unproveable because it's actually religious in nature. "Growing your soul" and helping others to grow their souls, these are unproveable concepts requiring a leap of faith on your part.
But you are inclined to believe this because the first few steps of the path (doing intestine exercises, coming to class regularly, taking Shim Sung, etc.) turned out to be true. So you begin to suspend your disbelief, and let them lead you futher down the path. Once you've gotten to a certain point, once that "Dahn voice" is implanted in your brain, thus allowing you to see and perceive everything thru the Dahn belief system, you will be able to lead others.
Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
Part 4
1) Extract as much money from you as possible, until you get fed up and leave (again, these are often the older, middle-aged, wealthier members who don't have the physical strength to become full-fledged instructors)
OR
2) Convince you that becoming a Dahn instructor is what you were "meant" to do, at which point you will begin working in a Dahn center, which isn't pushing you towards enlightenment, but only renders your life, for all practical purposes, that of an indentured servant who is hell-bent on making money for the vision
So you see, the only paths available are 1 or 2, and both are a dead end.
I ask you now: What vision? How are the people on paths 1 or 2 in any way helping to heal the world? If anything, their spending all of their time in Dahn centers is keep them ISOLATED from their communities, all while nurturing a false sense of superiority and arrogance that Dahn is the "one true way" (by the way, yet another cult hallmark - every cult in existence believes that theirs is the one true way).
The American Dahn movement is designed, I can see now, purely for the purpose of generating more money. I've been around long enough now to say with confidence that I have yet to meet a single person who has joined Dahn and who I believe has achieved "enlightenment."
I now can see that noone (not even Ilchi Lee) has the power to grant someone else spiritual enlightenment. Note that, historically, humans who are commonly regarded as being "enlightened beings" (Jesus, Buddha, etc.) pursued their own path to enlightenment. They did not get there as part of a military-like group. They followed their own, unique, individual voice.
Giving their lives for Ilchi Lee's vision to heal the world is what being a Dahn master is all about. They are told, during their master training, that doing this will enable them to get out of the cycle of death and rebirth (reincarnation). They believe that this is their last lifetime as a human, and that when they die, Ilchi Lee will meet their soul at the top of Bell Rock (a sacred Dahn spot in Sedona) and will personally usher them into the next level. They believe they are moving on, after this life, to the next evolutionary level.
I know that the enticement of regarding oneself as part of a special, elite group, who are actually being given the opportunity to achieve enlightenment in this lifetime, is a powerful draw. And giving that up, for Dahn instructors who leave, can be traumatic. But they almost all do leave. Of the hundreds of American members/instructors whom I have met over the last decade in my region, less than 5 are still standing. Everyone else is gone, and has been replaced by naive new members who have no idea of the vast numbers of people who came before them, and left. And now, so am I.
If you have questions, you can email me at ashleyvandaloo(at)gmail.com. Thank you.
Reader feedback
Lyra wrote
I just happened into an open circle at the retreat center in Sedona. In my line of work I have been to quite a few retreat centers. I had never heard of Dahn or Brain Wave Vibrations of Ilchi Lee. I was just looking for a place to host a workshop. This place felt wrong. There is no way a retreat center can be this nice and this empty without there being huge money flowing in from someplace. Then I saw the amazingly sweet smiling faces of the kids, and I remembered the Moonies from my youth. I studied the posters in the big hall. Ask any real Yogi, enlightenment isn't that simple. So I decided to take a look online and see what people are saying. Wow! Thanks for the clarity in this blog.
anonymous wrote
Birds of a feather... I just read about Chojonhoe /www.rickross.com/reference/jungshim/jungshim4.html> a group that sounds just like Dahn. The founders went to jail in Korea for the same kinds of things Dahn is accused of, but that didn't stop "Ki Health International" from starting up recently, and now they're accused too of brainwashing. /www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2695637/Alternative-health-centre-accused-of-brainwashing.html> I guess there's a lot of money to be made in Ki-gong "healing" so that even jail time isn't a deterrent.
And I read about Grand Master Choa Kok Sui, founded Pranic Healing, he sounds so much like Ilchi Lee. He started "Superbrain Yoga." Ilchi Lee started "Powerbrain Yoga." He sold the idea of pinching your ears with your arms crossed while bending down; Lee says to shake your head (Brain Wave Vibration) and walk around with your tailbone tucked. The clincher is that this "Grand Master" of health died of ill health at 51.
Brad wrote
this is supposed to be a yoga or tai chi class right? My loved one gave up her lifelong religous beliefs for the teachings of Ilchi Lee and now believes that following his teachings (where he describes himself as king or lord and them as believers) will get her to heaven and has a picture of him on her bedroom wall like he's some kind of God. She has gone nearly $20k into debt because of this place and their poor wages and benefits. I am working on a complaint with the IL Attorney General for predatory business practices since the masters borrowed her money for trips even though I begged them to stop her because she was addicted and could say no. They don't give her paid time off and don't pay for the costs of the trips that make her a better instructor. She drives all over Chicago and doesn't get paid the proper mileage reimbursement. She has to keep a journal of her thoughts during work and turn them into the master for review. I could keep going with more and more scary examples
Brad wrote
Lilly you are correct about the exploitation that occurs within the centers. I have a loved one in this cult and I've been fighting hard to get her out. I have hired a therapist who specializes in cults to help me. I know for a fact that they pay my loved one $8.50 a hour, and with that little wage she can't afford the fairly large health insurance premium they offer and 401k isn't even in her mind. She lives in near poverty because of this place. She also has to hand out flyers (called hung bo) on her time. When she first started she complained about this practice and now denies it. I complained to the Illinois Dept of Labor about this practice as well as having her "volunteer" at the weekend long Shim Sung events. She was "volunteering" for 20-30 hours once a month for this, an event that Dahn was making money off of and therefore should have been considered a work function that she was paid for. Within her first year working there I estimate she was shortpaid close to 500hr
Lilly wrote
I was once a very dedicated student of a Dahn center close to me and i really enjoyed all their classes and all the people who both taught and attended. I even went on a retreat to Sedona, AZ once and absolutely loved it. But, I have heard many stories from people both on line and in real life about people being taken adventage of . I have recieved a letter from a former member saying that she felt that they ruled her life as a new instructor by paying her very little in return for gruelling hours of work. She said that she was expected to pass out flyers even when she was not working at the center. What really got to me was that they called her a "victim" when she said she wanted to watch the olympics last year, she was saying that she realized that if she went through with this she would never again have a life of her own outside the center.
My own experience with Dahn was beautiful, I loved it and thought they were genuine, I am appauled that they ruined it and exploited people.
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