Is Dahn Yoga Linked to a Cult?
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A Yoga Cult?
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Contents at a Glance
- Names and Terms Related to the Dahn Organization
- What is a cult?
- My Thoughts About Dahn Yoga
- Dahn Videos
- A discussion on Twitter about Dahn
- Is Dahn a Cult? What is Your Opinion.
- About "Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes"
- Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes
- Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
- Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
- Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
- Reader feedback
Names and Terms Related to the Dahn Organization
- BodyNBrain
- Brain Respiration
- Dahn Yoga
- Dahn Hak
- Dahn Tao
What is a cult?
My opinion about Dahn as a cult
My problem is with cults that systematically exploit and exert control over its members. Groups like this exist and evidence points to Dahn as being one of them.
With Dahn, it is so easy to look the other way because if you're just enjoying classes there you don't have to see anything wrong. You may even be grateful to Dahn for changing your life for the better. But have you thought of the lives of your Masters? It is the leaders and instructors that appear to be exploited here. Just because Dahn yoga makes you feel good doesn't mean it isn't fueling a dangerous organization.
Links relevant to Dahn Yoga
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The Ohmtastic Blog
A blog posting about Dahn and comments in response.1 point
Qigong Association: Healing Society/Dahn Institute
Hundreds of forum posts about Dahn.1 point
Viewing a thread - Dahn Yoga Experience :: the yoga.com forums
Dahn Yoga Experience in the yoga.com discussion forums.1 point
Is Dahn Yoga Linked to a Cult?
Your yoga center may be more than it seems. I'm convinced that the Dahn organization is, at it's center a dangerous cult. I am hoping that the information presented in this lens will allow you to make an educated decision for yourself1 point
Dahn Yoga information: how to distribute your life energy within the body
The roots of Dahn Yoga cult or Dahn Hak practice extend five thousand years back into the ancient Korean history. It was designed as an ancient Korean training complex to teach the Korean population how to make both mind and body healthier and stronger1 point
My Thoughts About Dahn Yoga
A little about why I created this page
I applied for a job with Dahn. I was excited about having a job that could integrate my physical and spiritual well being. Because I was applying for a job, all of my classes were free. I was never pressured to buy anything but I chose to buy a uniform because they looked very comfortable and I wanted to show that I was serious about applying for the job.
I left Dahn abruptly, shortly after getting my energy reading. It really was just based on a gut feeling that something wasn't right. I have been part of a harmful religious cult before and I started to notice some similarities. Sure enough, a quick google search confirmed for me that Dahn is a cult. Some of what I read about this organization was truly heartbreaking and there are too many separate accounts to just dismiss.
I just want to backtrack a little to mention that the previous cult was a totally different type of organization. It was a Christian church and I was recruited by a fellow student. I am mentioning this because I don't reserve the word cult just for Dahn because it comes from a foreign culture. There are harmful American based cults as well.
So for me this is just based on a feeling and some internet research. My guess is that the average student can take classes from a Dahn Yoga Center and get real benefit from it. It seems that for some, those on track to become Masters and instructors, may be on a path to joining a cult.
Is Dahn a Cult? What is Your Opinion.
I would like to hear any thoughts about Dahn Yoga or comments on this lens. I am open to all views and I will not censor those who I disagree with. Statements based on experience are greatly welcomed.
Is Dahn a Cult
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DrDead says:
@hopeandpray, me too! I hope and pray for the same but I am not holding my breath. It sounds depressing but it is not so bad. Sooner or later they will crumble on there own weight. The more they grow, the more they involve people like me, the higher the chances they do something incredibly wrong. I also believe in the power of good(GOD) over evil. It will take some time but evil shal surely be defeated. Our job is not to loose hope or be affraid and keep the good fight. Fear is the worst thing one can have.
The simplest way dahn could crumble is if all 'masters quit at the same time. Surely they do not have the capacity to harass/hurt all of them. Even if they do they will loose steam so fast when the cash flow stops. Without masters I can imagine they will employ almost any member willing to teach a class but they will be terrible at it and they wont have any more new members paying them. I am guessing they will loose steam in about 4-6 months.
Posted February 13, 2012
hopeandpray says:
drdred; I truly hope and pray that your information is not accurate.
Posted February 11, 2012
DrDead says:
Okay where I live at present it is a bit easier to get around the harassment. Dahn has not spread its tentacles yet here. At-least they are afraid of the Police. And there is no real community support. They employ a bunch of unmotivated College Kids available for money. They are not as smart. They are also a bit lazy and could be easily overwhelmed. Also, food and water is cheap and Fresh air is free. One could sleep under the open sky. I am not saying its a piece of cake but it is much more manageable than in the US. SO to the Masters, give it a good thought and when you decide to do it, do it quickly. I will do what I should.
Posted February 11, 2012
DrDead says:
Law suits have been done and dahn seems to have managed to get over them. This is because as I mentioned, they take "pain staking" efforts not to do anything directly or overtly..... meaning not leaving evidence. Without evidence no one will take you seriously and in fact they will have basis to sue you/ me. And moreover, I have a feeling that they have infiltrated many organizations both public and private.
On a brighter side I am glad to report some success in sweating them a little. I got good results with a GPS Jammer. This is bringing them into the fore front as they can't track me remotely. With lack of remote tracking they are forced to track me in real time by directly following me. In fact I am pretty sure they lost me but I did not take that chance to loose them completely. I came back home. And I can see considerably increased activity on my six after that.
Regarding other covert technology they use- Technical info could be found at http://www.tentacle.franken.de/papers/ and click on hiddencams.pdf (264kb).
If you are one of those new recruits being groomed for master-dom and you really believe they are helping the "earth" and have hard time believing what I said,, ask them exactly how they are helping earth. All the proof they have is that they donated mere 10k to IBREA some kind of UN organization. Nothing else. Period. They will give Bull like by enlightening 1% of population, the rest will be awakened. This is not their original concept and nothing they teach is original concept. They have copied every single thing from places like hatha yoga, and chinese meridian system. They are BTW Korean nationalists who want Korean domination in the world. They feel they have been robbed of something and its payback time.
All said and done- all members, masters, high level masters at dahn are victims. Except the Evil genius "ILCHI LEE". Some high level masters might have gotten too comfortable but at one point they also have been abused too.
I want to make an appeal to all the dahn "masters". Please leave dahn "en-mass" and stop this evil from getting bigger. As you say "WE CAN DO IT".
I am pretty sure if any dahn master is reading, you know who I am and where I am.
BTW GPS jammer is illegal in the US and that is why dahn is caught off guard. They were not prepared for that. They might figure out a way around that soon. This might be the only shot we have.
Posted February 11, 2012
Drdead says:
This the review I have done on google maps for Dahn center in chicago at clark and Schubert. Well, this the center I was associated with mostly. here is that review.........
***I am an MD and I joined this place in Dec 2009. I initially liked it as anyone here.
I spent almost 20k on "special courses" and memberships and was being groomed to become "master".
All "special courses" were essentially brain washing and/or hypnotizing sessions with a mild dose of yoga/ tai chi mixed in. Most people may enjoy there "regular Classes" which could still be very weird- like anal exercises, chest thumping and yelling and wild dancing. This is where they see who is receptive to BS like this and then they "target" them for "Courses".
During my association with dahn, I always wondered why so many young, nice, normal, educated people "chose" to work as "masters" working like dogs for Dahn. In my investigations they all had a similar story. the common denominator was that they all had joined and then left. 6 months or so later they rejoined.
What happened in those 6 months no one told me clearly. They just said "they did not feel well". I did not think, at that time, that they could be forced to work, as they were relatively "free" to get around and interact with rest of the world. I couldn't be more wrong.....
I completely stopped going to any center in april 2010. Following that, a series of events happened starting from august 2010, which make be believe without a doubt that they use very very advanced technology to track, stalk and monitor targeted members. I initially thought I had multiple sclerosis almost contemplating to go on disability. But then, by accident, I found the Real problem . The real problem was, deliberate, chronic, low level contamination of my food/water/air I breath, by dahn's highly trained personnel/agents.
It is understandably hard to believe these claims I made, even to my self. This is exactly what dahn is counting on. A runaway member/master will often get caught in a catch 22 situation when they try to get help, because of the unbelievable nature of these allegations. To maintain such advantage over the "runaways", dahn takes "pain staking" efforts not to harm the targets acutely and to covertly harass them over a long period of time.
It would be more convincing if I could tell the details about how they do it, but that would take me a book.
The proof lies in the fact that I, just by NOT being as predictable about what/where I eat, drink and sleep, I became as fit as anyone else. And when I get lax in my efforts, I get sick again.
Another way they try to harass the runaway masters is to get them in trouble with some other powerful groups. For example, by framing you as a racist they can get you in plenty of trouble openly.
There are also other "spiritual" ways they employ to harass the runaway masters. Again, the details are too complicated to put it in a few words.
BTW, what they can do to you, they could also do to your family and loved once.
These are some of the reasons why masters go back after they leave/run away. They just get tired of the harassment. The longer they run the more they suffer. I know a guy who ran for 2 years before succumbing. He "donated" 100K+ after he rejoined!!!
This is how cults of this day and age are able to maintain control over their members. They no longer have to keep them in a compound and guard them.
Of-course, Dahn needs a lot of money for such activities, this is why they charge so much for there "courses".
So Please, Please stop paying them!****
Posted February 10, 2012
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DrDead says:
I am trying to leave a review for dahn center or body and brain center in Chicago at Clark on yelp for the past 2 weeks and every time it says 'oops, yelp is overworked right now, try later'. I am guessing dahn's minions have controll over that site. It surely cant be 'overworked' every single time- about 6 times over the past 2 weeks.
Posted February 15, 2012
getridofthem says:
DrDead why dont you get a lawyer to help sue them?
Posted February 10, 2012
getridofthem says:
Any lawyers out there with advice on how to get rid of Dahn Yoga?
Posted January 02, 2012
susan says:
LESSONS LEARNED - I agree with very thing you say. I felt the same feelings. Thank you so much for helping me not feel like I was the weird one.
Posted December 14, 2011
susan says:
OMG totally agree with all points about them being a cult. Just left after 5 months of membership. Luckily I read all previous data and I was firm when they tried to persuade me to stay. I really thank all of you that made your comments because it made me reach the decision that I could not partake in this bull anymore. Totally horrid organisation. They want the front men/women to be non-Koreans just to elude us into thinking - ok theyre not so bad. They are just like me. Well no they are not. I had great pleasure in telling my centre in London today that I am not one of them and I have my own mind and I can think for myself They make you feel broken so that you feel you need them. If I could advise anyone out there, I would say always trust your inner voice and NEVER give your power away. It is yours.
Posted December 14, 2011
About "Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes"
Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes
Part 1
If you are in Dahn now, either as an enthusiastic member with mostly/only super postive experiences thus far, or if you are one of the members who are being groomed to become a master, or if you are actually an instructor (instructors used to be called "masters" but the organization recently changed that practice), and you are reading this, I say to you:
I know you are probably going to dismiss what I am saying as nonsense from someone who is "unenlightened" or just "not getting it," even though I've probably been involved much longer than you have. You have been conditioned to think this way by the group leaders. Your critical thinking process has been systematically disengaged, in such a masterful way, that you (an intelligent, thoughtful person) aren't even aware of it. But I do know this. In the back of your brain, there is still some small voice that is questioning and wondering if this is all true, if Dahn is for real...
Only a very small handful of members don't have that questioning voice in their brains, and these people are truly the victims in all of this. That small group are called by those who have left "the lifers." The lifers may never get out. And I pray for them, I do. But you. YOU know that you have that small critical voice still inside. It's been supressed and buried as much as possible. You've been taught to regard it as "resistance" and laziness and "negative information" and any number of blocks your ego is throwing up to keep your soul from growing. What you don't know now is that that small critical voice in your head is what is going to save you in the end. It is a blessing, and later you will be very grateful for it.
You see, you have taken all of these classes and trainings thru Dahn, thru your center and Sedona, and maybe you've even gone to Korea, and as a result, it's like a voice (another voice) has been implanted in your brain that constantly filters and analyzes everything you see and hear thru the Dahn belief system. So I already know in advance how your brain is going to immediately dismiss what I am saying. If you can't find an explanation for my assertions, then you will just shut your mind down entirely and will refuse to think about it at all. And you'll go on your merry way.
But I know you. I WAS you. For many, many years. And I know that behind that voice implanted by the Dahn belief system, is the real you, that critical voice you've been taught to disregard. That voice will read what I am saying here and will wonder if it's actually true. You will wonder. You will probably dismiss, for now. But you WILL wonder.
Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
Part 2
I have come to understand that people walking in the door are usually groomed in one of two ways: either you're an enthusiastic member repeatedly pushed to pay lots of money for healing sessions and workshops, including repeated trips to Sedona. This is the group that is solely being used for money. These people are usually middle-aged or older and out of shape when they join. They will end up giving THOUSANDS of dollars to Dahn.
The other group is smaller. These are the young, bright, vibrant people who are recruited to be instructors. They usually don't have much money (although they will be pushed to open multiple credit card accounts and to ask their families for money). They are wanted for their ENERGY. One of the most interesting things I learned about cults is that they specifically target strong, vibrant people (not weaklings) because they know these will make the most enthusiastic, charismatic leaders who can convince others to join.
So you might be reading this post and a member of either group 1 or group 2. If you're in group 1, you're only going to be shown the most positive aspects of the group. Your experiences will be controlled in such a way by the group leaders that they are only positive, and that is because they want you to keep shelling out that money. It is amazing to behold the number of wealthy, middle-aged members of Dahn. It is common knowledge now that Dahn only opens centers in wealthy, white-bread neighborhoods. However, if you're in this group, observe the way that Dahn has completely engulfed your life. The instructors push you to do all kinds of trainings, and to spend most of your time at the center. Sure, the exercises make you feel quite good, but notice how doing them has begun to take up such large amounts of your time. Also notice that if you are hesistant to do the next in a long line of expensive trainings, you will be made to understand by the instructor that your reasons for hesitating are not valid. Ever. You are told that it's "your choice," but take note of the way they react when you say no. Watch and observe carefully.
Group 2 members are the true victims of mind control, and that is what people must understand who are criticizing Dahn. The young instructors running these centers are victims themselves. They are to be pitied, not attacked. Imagine the trauma their families feel at having lost a son/daughter/wife/husband/sister/brother to this organization.
Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
Part 3
Here are some of the things I have learned in the last 6 weeks:
The business model for the American Dahn system is a Ponzi scheme. This is similar to a pyramid scheme. This is what Madoff was recently jailed for. A Ponzi scheme operates with a central figurehead at the top (Ilchi Lee). The next 2 or 3 levels of the pyramid (his closest associates - most of whom are shadow figures who you will never meet) are the only ones making money. And they are making MILLIONS, buying real estate left and right, creating many new "front groups" (another classic cult hallmark) and enterprises. Going down and down the pyramid, you get to levels, say, 8 and 9. These are the people who are MAKING the money for those at the top. These are the people who are in charge of the grunt work, the sweat, the labor, and most importantly, bringing new recruits into the scheme. The level 8 and 9 people are the Dahn instructors running the centers. These people work 100 hours a week for little money. They sleep 3 to 5 hours a night. They live in communal housing. Almost every moment of their time is given to inventing ways to make more $$$ for their center and for Dahn. In Dahn language, they are working for their "vision."
In this context, the way to convince a level 8 and 9 person on the pyramid to work like this, constantly and endlessly, to maximize profits and bring in new members, is to impose an elaborate belief system, something they can passionately and fervently believe in, a religion (if you will), that they will defend to the end. Also necessary is to utilize techniques of mind control in order to disengage their critical thinking processes. Again, I point anyone interested in this subject to the book "Combatting Cult Mind Control," which can be ordered off Amazon.
Forty percent of the income at Dahn centers is given to Ilchi Lee, and the center instructors assume it's for opening new centers and other programmatic expenses. What is kept from them is that much of this money is for the personal enrichment of Lee and the people on the next 2 or 3 levels of the pyramid. Evidence of this is everywhere, and devoted members don't want to see it.
Many of you may have been in Sedona and seen Ilchi Lee's Hummer and his entourage of personal attendants who travel with him (usually anonymous, interchangeable Korean men in business suits). If you went so far as to inquire why Lee drives this expensive, environmentally-unfriendly vehicle, you were probably told that he needs it for the difficult terrain around Sedona, or that he needs it for "protection." Right? But if you really take some space and sit and think about this situation, you will see that your first impulse was correct, after all: there IS something not right about Lee's being driven around in a Hummer. In the context of the Dahn belief system, it doesn't fit. And your rational brain immediately sensed this. But the group leaders are experts at convincing you to distrust your own intuition and to conclude that there are things going on at higher levels in the group that you don't need to understand or question.
I can look back now in amazement at the way I "turned off my brain" in these sorts of situations and meekly accepted the explanations given me by the group leaders. And how ironic that Dahn is all about "waking up your brain"! The cognitive dissonance and groupthink are rampant.
The imposing of a spiritual belief system over a Ponzi scheme business model in order to rake in millions is really, truly genius. Lee and his associates should be congratulating themselves. They've done a great job, haven't they? Let's have a round of applause for them. Bravo, boys!
The most troubling aspect of what I have recently learned is definitely painful to write and to think about, but I believe it's important to air it out and let it see the light of day. I have become aware of an entire network of women who have been sexually abused by Ilchi Lee.
For those who are reading this and are still heavily involved with Dahn, I know your brain is going to try to filter out and dismiss what I am saying as untrue. I know this because for years my brain did the same thing when I was presented with similar info (being rumors on the Internet). But for the first time, this info was presented to me in a way that I could not dismiss, because it was coming from people that I personally know and trust, not just strangers on the Internet.
Yes, it is true. I personally know a young American woman who claims to have been raped by Ilchi Lee. And I believe her. She is one of the last peope in the world I could imagine fabricating such a story. Through her, and through other connections, I have become aware that there are many such woman who assert that they were coerced into sex by Lee. Let's just take some space for a moment and sit and really think about this.
I will say it again: There are many such woman who assert that they were coerced into sex by Lee. How truly powerful is that statement? Now, if you are still heavily involved in Dahn, your brain is going to be busily at work right now, filtering what I am saying thru the Dahn belief system so that you will dismiss my words or tune them out. I don't need you to be convinced, because I am confident that down the road, when you yourself are ready to walk, you will be ready for this information, and it will come to you. You will be ready for that red pill. All that you really need to remember right now is that there is such a concept as mind control, and this: that when you do leave Dahn, even though you REALLY don't believe it now, your life is going to improve so much. You can't see it now, but Dahn has taken the world AWAY from you, and by leaving, you will get it back. You will get back a resolute faith in yourself and your own strength.
Try to go back and remember, if you can, when you first walked into a Dahn center. Try to remember the way that you felt (physically, emotionally, etc.) and who you were at that time. Now, no doubt, Dahn (the exercise practice) has made many improvements in your life. I read many accounts by people with disease and illness and Dahn exercise classes have really helped them to feel better and to build physical strength. The fact that the exercise program is so beneficial is Ilchi Lee's biggest ally, because when members hear cult accusations about Dahn, their brains immediately bombard them with memories of how crappy they felt before they started doing the practice, and how good they feel when they leave class, and they conclude the accusations must be false. More advanced members think about how fabulous they feel after workshops, or the loving, Buddha-like qualities of the group leaders.
What members don't understand is that, within the classic cult hierarchy, the group leaders are ALWAYS described as these loving, compassionate, kind, Buddha-like creatures. This is exactly how members of the Moonies described the leaders of THEIR group, and the Hare Krishnas, and so on. I now believe that radiating that Buddha-like state is a practiced and cultivated habit that anyone can become good at. The instructors interact with dozens of members a day and thus become very, VERY good at this. What is important is how they are behind closed doors, when paying members aren't around, and I know that they are as human as you or me, and no more "enlightened" than anyone else.
Now, in the beginning, terms such as "dahn jon" were unfamiliar to you and sounded silly, and you may have dismissed as hooey their pushing you to try this or that. Eventually, though, you gave in, and you found that - hey! boy oh boy! - they were right! You feel so much better!
And in this way, your resistance to the group's doctrine begins to be worn down. Remember, you are being led down a path, shown new things in incremental steps, and given info about the belief system in small doses at a time. After you allow them to lead you those first few steps, when you're still a newbie and all that Korean terminology is new and strange, and you figure out that what they're telling you, thus far, is actually quite true, and following their instructions results in positive changes in your health and state of mind, you start to doubt yourself. Let me repeat: This is when you start to doubt yourself and your own intuition. As you go farther down the path, more and more info they're telling you is unproveable because it's actually religious in nature. "Growing your soul" and helping others to grow their souls, these are unproveable concepts requiring a leap of faith on your part.
But you are inclined to believe this because the first few steps of the path (doing intestine exercises, coming to class regularly, taking Shim Sung, etc.) turned out to be true. So you begin to suspend your disbelief, and let them lead you futher down the path. Once you've gotten to a certain point, once that "Dahn voice" is implanted in your brain, thus allowing you to see and perceive everything thru the Dahn belief system, you will be able to lead others.
Letter from a Long-time Dahn Instructor Who Has Finally Opened Her Eyes [continued]
Part 4
1) Extract as much money from you as possible, until you get fed up and leave (again, these are often the older, middle-aged, wealthier members who don't have the physical strength to become full-fledged instructors)
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2) Convince you that becoming a Dahn instructor is what you were "meant" to do, at which point you will begin working in a Dahn center, which isn't pushing you towards enlightenment, but only renders your life, for all practical purposes, that of an indentured servant who is hell-bent on making money for the vision
So you see, the only paths available are 1 or 2, and both are a dead end.
I ask you now: What vision? How are the people on paths 1 or 2 in any way helping to heal the world? If anything, their spending all of their time in Dahn centers is keep them ISOLATED from their communities, all while nurturing a false sense of superiority and arrogance that Dahn is the "one true way" (by the way, yet another cult hallmark - every cult in existence believes that theirs is the one true way).
The American Dahn movement is designed, I can see now, purely for the purpose of generating more money. I've been around long enough now to say with confidence that I have yet to meet a single person who has joined Dahn and who I believe has achieved "enlightenment."
I now can see that noone (not even Ilchi Lee) has the power to grant someone else spiritual enlightenment. Note that, historically, humans who are commonly regarded as being "enlightened beings" (Jesus, Buddha, etc.) pursued their own path to enlightenment. They did not get there as part of a military-like group. They followed their own, unique, individual voice.
Giving their lives for Ilchi Lee's vision to heal the world is what being a Dahn master is all about. They are told, during their master training, that doing this will enable them to get out of the cycle of death and rebirth (reincarnation). They believe that this is their last lifetime as a human, and that when they die, Ilchi Lee will meet their soul at the top of Bell Rock (a sacred Dahn spot in Sedona) and will personally usher them into the next level. They believe they are moving on, after this life, to the next evolutionary level.
I know that the enticement of regarding oneself as part of a special, elite group, who are actually being given the opportunity to achieve enlightenment in this lifetime, is a powerful draw. And giving that up, for Dahn instructors who leave, can be traumatic. But they almost all do leave. Of the hundreds of American members/instructors whom I have met over the last decade in my region, less than 5 are still standing. Everyone else is gone, and has been replaced by naive new members who have no idea of the vast numbers of people who came before them, and left. And now, so am I.
If you have questions, you can email me at ashleyvandaloo(at)gmail.com. Thank you.
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Feb 10, 2012 @ 3:14 pm | delete
- I totally agree and I went to the centre for nearly 5 yrs to become flexible so that I could play tennis without any injury and enjoy my free time. But there are times instructors forced me to go for trainings which costs thousands of dollars, somehow I was able to avoid some. I took the life membership (paying $2500.00) so that I could pay less monthly, finally the instructor told me that they made the calculation wrong and I need to pay double the amount I have been paying. Now I have come to a point to put a full stop once and for all. Stopped going the centre. Now I am going to my gym regularly and stretching before and after exercises, feeling great.
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Ashley Vandaloo
Feb 10, 2012 @ 11:22 am | delete
- Anyone who has doubts as to whether or not Dahn Yoga is a cult, need only watch this video. Although it was filmed before Dahn came into existence, it describes their methods and practices to a T:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnNSe5XYp6E
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openlotus
Jan 26, 2012 @ 1:17 am | delete
- I have really enjoyed reading all of this. I have only been going to Dahn Yoga for two weeks. I noticed right away a huge benefit in my body and a letting go of some old stagnation in my mind. I was pretty blown away how instant the benefits were. I did two small healings and both times they benefited me immensely. I have a yoga and spiritual back ground and felt like Dahn yoga was really in line with my own natural way of doing things. I went to the first workshop, the Chakra Opening one and it was nice. Stuff i already new but it confirmed at least that they were in line with my current belief system. But though there are definitely great benefits here, there was this feeling i had in my gut that something was odd. What was odd to me was that in my "healing" sessions they would tell me things like i am shut down in my heart area, or this exercise will help my insomnia (which i didn't have), or this will cure my lower back pain (which i also didn't have) and this will help me find my true self or be more creative (which i am very creative). I started to feel like they were putting words in my mouth or telling me that i needed to be healed of something i was not asking to be healed of nor did i even suffer from. I would leave feeling confused as to why they were saying this to me. Then they started to pressure me with the money and the trainings and telling me i am very special and could become a Dahn teacher, but I just came to do yoga, not to become an instructor. All the help i was getting was unsolicited. They were very warm but also sort of blank when it came time to really feeling seen for who i am. They even told me to write checks for money i didn't even have, i could post date them and the money will come as its just energy. I have no problem seeing energy as money but i didn't even want to take workshops, i had to keep reminding myself that i just came for yoga. Before i knew it i was out $2000 and i only knew them for less than 2 weeks. SO this is what i have observed. It is a profound path to healing no doubt. And it is also a Cult. I have no desire to be a dahn yoga instructor, yet i am being pursued to be one, and groomed in that way, not seen for who i am. Its not my calling, nor does it interest me what so ever. If you are young and beautiful they will try to get you to become an instructor, its a very expensive commitment. The instructors seem happy on the outside but if they keep telling you that this will help your insomnia when you don't have any it starts to feel like they really don't care about you they just want to convince you you are sick so they can get you into the next treatment room, so how truly happy or enlightened can they really be?. If you are older but wealthy they will just get you to do the trainings because they don't want you to be a instructor. And if you are "beyond hope" they are happy to just support you coming to Yoga they are not interested in milking you because they know its not going to go anywhere. Many have written in that are probably in the young and beautiful category, that's the most dangerous one to be in. Those of you that are in the older but wealthy category just get to do a lot of workshops and may feel financially taken advantage of, and those of you that are sort of way out of the ball park of their ideal actually have the best time because you get treated the easiest, you get to come and go and no one jumps on your back. So yes if you want to do the yoga with all its amazing benefits then you have to keep saying No to all the other stuff, but then they get annoyed at you and the yoga environment gets polluted with their irritation so its not very fun anymore~ I am really bummed because i love the yoga... but i don't like how they keep telling me on one hand i am broken and need to be healed and on the other i am so special and should become a teacher when i just came there for yoga. They really meddle in your affairs. I have been around spirituality all my life and a few cults along the way. You know you're in a cult when you get that bad feeling in your gut consistently. or feel bad about yourself when you leave. But like i said if you older and don't fit their mark they do leave you in peace more or less. I do notice at tea time when they try to rope you in lots of people scramble for the door before tea even starts. It's because they don't want to be exposed to the brain washing session that is about to ensue~ tea time is sort of scary~ so the worst part about it for me is not even the money as i would be happy to pay it if i felt really good about it, but its the subtle undermining, being told i am shut down, too skinny, my hair is dry, my skin is not pink enough... when i am a very beautiful woman and have no insecurity about my looks i even started to wonder are they jealous!? anyway i love the yoga so much that i wonder if its possible to be able to keep going but somehow keep them off my back....? probably unlikely...
so if you are involved listen to your gut, if your in one of these 3 categories, how does it fell for you? do you feel nurtured by them... some people will and that is great, and others they will tear down. So just listen to yourself and if your young and beautiful be careful~
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anashenwrath
Dec 11, 2011 @ 4:30 pm | delete
- I'm in Dahn now, almost done with 10 trial classes. I honestly don't see a lot of the stuff discussed here, although they do mention workshops sometimes and try to get me to go along. The exercises seem pretty ok, and I appreciated the meditation techniques, but I agree with a lot of the people who talk about a weird vibe at Dahn yoga, or invasions of personal space.
However, the whole thing in the letter about how Dahn targets only wealthy white-bread neighborhoods is bunk. I'm in a very crappy neighborhood in the Bronx, and my Dahn yoga center is in walking distance. I think places like this don't care who they're targeting; they'll make money wherever there is money to be made.
If I could pay as I go, I would probably keep up (it's $16 a class where I am), but they are insisting that if I want to keep going, I have to buy a membership for $1000 or something like that. No way. Any place that locks you into a contract like that is bad news. That was my warning flag and the reason why I'm almost done with Dahn. Sites like this just confirm that I'm making the right choice. I hope I can find something else, bcs I really like the concept of meditation plus exercise. But it seems like there's too much ugliness behind the curtain at Dahn for me to risk it.
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megameow
Nov 4, 2011 @ 7:57 am | delete
- Excuse the mistakes I'm French.
When I joined Dahn Yoga 3years ago I was able to quit thanks to a letter like this one written by a Korean ex-instructor. The letter was much more horrifying than this one because the young instructor was very closed to the Guru...So you can see from the inside how this cult operate...
I wish this letter could be seen on a website like this one.
But in the end, it's all the same I suppose. People will be warned eventually.
I still believe in spirituality, enlightenment and mind and body connection. But Dahn yoga is not the solution! They maybe show the way...that's why we feel so good at first! because some of their teachings are true! But they are a cult. And as so, they are dangerous.
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