David Lindahl Review : Apartment House Riches Bootcamp : RE Mentor Company

I found different stories on the web regarding this issue.

I recently found a complaint on the site Ripoff Report filed against David Lindhal for not refunding the money of the program at:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/seminar-programs/the-learning-annex/the-learning-annex-david-lin-w2394.htm

However, it appears that the person did not buy direct from David Lindahl, but through a company called the learning annex. He later wrote back though and said the refund was given after follow up with the learning annex. It also looks like he paid less than the $995 too. If you buy from the learning annex you may have more trouble getting a refund as it sounds like they have a different refund policy than David does on his website REmentor.com.

But, when I looked at reviews on:

GuruReview.com

http://www.gureview.com/gurus/david_lindahl/

There are people who had bad stories on losing money and not getting their refund.

The battle of apartment teacher gurus lawsuit with Monica Main:

http://www.squidoo.com/David_Lindahl_vs_Monica_Main

David's home study program called Apartment House Riches is $995 and is 143 pages (at least at this time from what I read on his site). He also includes some CDS and other free bonuses, but I'm only interested in this review in the content of the program not free bonuses. Anyone who has bought both programs or David's program please post and share on my guest book below.

This I have been too. I went to a free weekend seminar on how to buy apartments that was advertised in my city. I was very excited about this as I wanted to meet David Lindahl and learn how he buys apartment buildings. However, I was very disappointed when I got there to find out that he was not even going to be at the seminar! The whole time they had advertised come see and learn how to buy apartments with David Lindahl, which was why I went, but when I got there he was not even there! He had sent other sales people on his staff to present for the weekend. I can certainly understand if he can not be at every seminar and wants to have sales people give the presentation for him, but it does not set up for a good impression when you advertise you are going to be there and it is advertised as David Lindahls seminar and he is not even there.

The sales men where very dynamic and strong speakers and shared similar stories of hard trials and how this changed their lives. I had to wonder if they really had been through hard trials or if that was their connect with the audience and form emotional connections which I think were played on later when the sales pitch came and it came hard.

The first part of the seminar was encouraging and motivational, but we were some what talked to like we were foolish investors and that they were going to educate us to be successful. I talked with some of the investors there and there were many established successful investors there in single family homes, but there were some new people so I supposed the speakers wanted to make everyone feel welcome. I do have to say here that my review is going to be some what biased here because I did feel very misled to have taken a weekend of to come and hear David talk and he didnt come. I also got the impression that it was not a accident, but that they regularly hold these seminars for free which are designed to sell the very expensive bootcamps. I dont mind paying for a bootcamp and even at a $5,000 or $10,000 cost I don't mind if it is good and helps me, but when they go about it this way it pushes my buttons. I do want to be as objective as possible though and give this a fair review. I feel I need to share my experience and feelings though so you are aware of how I felt and that may change how I saw things.

I do know that many people were very and I mean very excited there to buy the bootcamp and jumped up out of their seats like they won the lottery when they made the sales pitch. Which due to my skeptical view on it all now after my first impression and the emotional push and cues the sales guy gave - were those really average joes there for the weekend or were they on the payroll to run and buy to try and create a crowd rush or be a trigger point for people on the emotional push to go drop $5,000 or $8,000 on a bootcamp for a few days. I don't remember the cost of the bootcamp but it was very expensive and more than I expected, I had expected a $2,000 or $3,000 cost and this was a much higher price than I expected. The bootcamp was not going to be 5 or 10 of us with David, but was going to be a fairly large event and I wondered if I drop that much money will I even get to spend time with David and learn anything or will I be with 50 or 100 people and not be able to approach him. So what the bootcamp is really like well I dont know as I did not go. If you did go please share on the guest book your experience.

FOR DAVID OR HIS STAFF

If David or his staff happens to read my review here by chance I think you would be able to fix a lot of these concerns by making these changes. You seem like a real nice guy who wants to help people from the videos I have seen and your materials, but I think maybe your sales team is putting these things in place and well it is hurting your reputation I think. At least that is my opinion. I think if you do the following you would eliminate these concerns.

1) If you will not be at a seminar then make sure people know that. When people take off work to come hear you speak and you don't show up it is disrespectful. If it is a last minute thing, send a email to your people coming so they know in advance.

2) Don't let your sales team use the hard emotional sales methods they are using, at least they did when I was at the seminar. I don't remember the exact wording or what they said, but the message was basically get up out of your seat now and go sign up before it sells out and you can't go. If you don't do this your life will never change and you are doomed. That is honestly how I felt your sales team was making me feel, like I was stupid for not running like an idiot out of my chair to the back of the room to give your staff my credit card number to drop thousands of dollars. Just by the nature of the sales pitch, I refused to even consider it because it seemed to me like a hard sales pitch. Some people got up and ran back there, but they looked kind of like they were desperate. I imagine they were and in hard spots in life and were putting everything and all their hope in your bootcamp to change their life. The other investors like myself did not get up and run, we are not desperate but are open to what you have to teach, but I felt like your sales staff was taking advantage of people. I really think you would be fine in selling your bootcamp without the emotional push and hard sales pitch. If you share and teach more stuff up front free then people will by nature want to get more and learn what you have, but your sales team didn't share much on how to do anything, just shared how peoples lives changed and all the money they made and how this will change your life.

I mean no disrespect in this and do want to give you the benefit of the doubt. I think you need to talk to your sales team though and have them change their methods.

I have not been to this event but would like to hear from anyone who has. Please leave your feedback on my guest book.

REVIEWS THAT ARE GOOD

Here are some other sites that I found with feedback and review from people who say they have been to David's bootcamps and live events:

RealEstateCourseReviews.com

http://www.realestatecoursereviews.com/review/index2.php?item_id=43

(This site may be selling the courses too, Im not sure, which may influence the reviews.) This site also seemed to have many good things to say about David.

REVIEWS THAT DO NOT SOUND GOOD ABOUT DAVID

GuruReview.com

http://www.gureview.com/gurus/david_lindahl/

There are many reviews here from people saying they paid and took the bootcamps and never got to talk to David and that he does not teach you how to buy with no money down but you have to have money to start.

An article site:

http://hubpages.com/hub/david-lindahl-scam

First this is just my opinion and is based on what I have found on other websites. I have not bought David's program and only attended his weekend seminar which was mostly as I outlined above a sales pitch for the bootcamp live event for apartments.

The price seemed very high and would only be worth that if I was able to buy property. From what I have read on reviews and on other programs the material in the bootcamp is pretty basic and very likely much like what is in other programs or his home study program, but at a higher cost because it is a live event.

I did find reviews that have good things to say about David and many that had bad reviews saying he does not work with you or partner with you. I must say that the thing that attracted me most to David's bootcamp is that he will partner with me on deals as I lack the funding to get started. I read many reviews though saying that he does not partner with you and people who said they never got calls back on deals they wanted to partner with him on. This concerns me because I do not want to do the work and send him deals and then he buys them and I never know or he just keeps selling me training at thousands of dollars each time. When I was at the weekend seminar I asked the sales guy if I can partner with David as I know a good deal about apartments and I will teach myself and bring him only good deals, but they said I had to do the bootcamp and be trained.

I think from what I have read that the best thing is going to be for me to find my own private investors for funds to get started or find seller financing.