Debt is Dumb

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Debt Never Sleeps.

Interest is a funny thing. It has made millionaires and the homeless. Debt has a place in society because few of us have enough cash on hand to buy a home, on the other hand unwisely taking a loan can sink you fast. Many people are finding out the hard way that over extending yourself financially to buy something you cannot afford does not bring happiness only misery. Debt can enslave the hardest of workers. If you have found yourself in over your head, this page may be of assistance. The topics treated in here are some of the basics to managing money: debt, budgeting, negotiating with creditors, credit cards, savings, career development and increasing income. So read on and don't forget to leave comments and who knows this may change how you view the world.
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Where do I start?

Emaciated Piggy Bank1. Decide enough is enough.
2. Talk to your significant other.
3. Budget
4. Decide what debt to take on first
5. Make minimum payments on all debts except the target debt where you give it your all.
6. Once you conquer one debt take the payment that you were applying to the first debt and use it for a second payment each month towards the next debt in line.

Step one is to get together the courage to get started. Once you have decided you are all in you need to convince anyone with access to the same bank accounts or credit lines that enough is enough. A frank conversation about money is never easy, but we are adults. Adults have to take care of unpleasant things once in a while. You cannot force anyone to see your point of view, so if you meet resistance initially return to this step later, and begin with what you can do on your own.

Once you have decided that you have the desire the next step is to figure out where the money is. This means writing down how much you are bringing in each month, and figuring our how much is being spent and where. Don't get discouraged this may take some time. I have found that creating a spread sheet is useful in organizing the information. This is not absolutely necessarily though so do not be scared away if you are not a computer savoy person. All you have to have is a sheet of paper with lines and columns. The goal is to get the money going out to be less than the money coming in. This means some sacrifice. How much sacrifice? That depends on the hole you dug. Remember slow and steady wins the race. You may not get out over night but with consistency you can put your money to work for you rather than working every second of your life for money. For more on budgeting visit My Budget.

Once you have figured out where your money is and is going, then decide what debt you are going to tackle first. Pay the minimum payment on all your debts if you can, then go after one with all you have got. There are various methods for making the decision on which debt to get out of your life first. Dave Ramsey a popular self help financial adviser suggests tackling the smallest debt first. This has several merits. First it brings success early, and encourages you and your significant other that this is going to work. Second your smallest debts often are individual credit card balances or pay day loans, which carry high interest rates. These are great debts to get out of your life. The down side is to this method is your highest interest loan may not be your smallest debt. This means if you pay more on the lower interest loans in the end you pay a little more in interest. This may be a good trade off though for the early success and encouragement of conquering a debt quickly, especially if you are still trying to encourage your significant other to get on board.

Once you have payed off one debt use the money that you would have spent on the payments for that debt to make extra payments on the next debt in line. If you continue to live frugally you can continue to apply the payment amount for each debt conquered to the next debt, thereby paying the next debt off even faster.

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Financial Peace

Sleep well at night knowing debt is out of your life.

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Credit Cards

Just Say No!

Cutting Credit Card by SqueakyMarmotCredit cards are like a bad habit, easy to get a hold of difficult to get rid of. They are the legalized crack of the financial world. They allow people to get hooked to a life style they cannot afford. Most people can do better by cutting up the cards and tossing them to the wind. Some of you who have consistently shown you can pay your obligations are probably okay getting a credit card, because you will pay the balance monthly. If this is the case though you probably do not need one.

There are a few redeeming points to credit cards. Some offer rewards programs, that if you are spending large amounts on the credit card can add up fast to free flights or cash rewards. Beware though, most of these programs require you to spend around $10,000 for $100 dollars in benefits. Further more many rewards cards have yearly service charges or membership fees. If you are not running a business or a very large family on these cards the rewards are probably useless because you will never be able to redeem them. Also watch out for cards with minimum interest rates. These may charge you interest even if you pay the balance every month.

The two things to remember about credit cards is 1. You do not need them. 2. If you have them pay the balance every month.

How many credit cards do you have?

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Negotiating with creditors.

This is not fun, but it can save you money and heartbreak.

Negotiating by Mike SchmidThis can be a grueling and frustrating process. A man or woman of integrity will pay their obligations when they can, but if you cannot then negotiate to pay what you can. You will not be dealing with intelligent people most of the time. Collection agencies are ruthless and often break the law in trying to collect. For this reason it is good to know what they can and can not do. If your account has not gone to collections the debtor may not negotiate with you, insisting you talk to the collections agency. Do not let this discourage you. They are more likely to listen to reason than a debt collector. Call them repeatedly with your offer, and let them know that you do not have the money to pay the debt (assuming you do not).

The fact of the matter is that money now is better than the promise of money later or the probability of loosing money. For this reason creditors will often negotiate a settlement. They know that if you could make the payments you would be doing so. The key to negotiating a settlement is to never give them a cent until you have the deal in writing. Some agencies will not negotiate until the debt goes to collections. In this case if you do not mind the ding to your credit, that probably sucks anyway, let it happen.

If you have the money to pay your debts I would not suggest these methods, because not only will your credit rating suffer, but the creditors can sue to get the money. If you are broke the threat of taking your money through a law suite is not a big threat because you have nothing to take. If you are persistent and get the deal in writing you may successfully walk away with a settled debt.

Advice from a man that made millions, lost it all because of debt, then made millions more the right way.

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How deep is the hole you dug?

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Saving for the Future

xJasonRogersxAn emergency fund is a must. Start with a $1000 or $2000. This money is to be used in an emergency, instead of putting it on the card. Emergencies are grandpa died and we need to go to the funeral, or the car broke down and it is my ride to work. The latest i phone is not an emergency. I would suggest getting this built up while you are paying off your debt by saving each month into the fund, so if an emergency happens while you are paying off your mountain of debt you do not have to jump in again. This also gives you a sum to negotiate with creditors to settle debts.

Once you get out of debt this is when you really get to work on saving for the future. Every family and individual should keep six months of expenses in their fully funded debt free emergency fund. This means if dad loses his job that you do not have to go into debt while he finds a new one. Once you have six months of expenses put away there are many ways to invest that will bring you much more in return than keeping your money in the bank.

A Roth IRA is a great way to save for retirement. If you have had the account for more than 5 years and you are above the age of 59.5 you can withdraw with no penalty or taxes on the money. There are various benefits and disadvantages to be considered and the maximum yearly contribution is limited.

Mutual funds are another good way to invest. Mutual funds are accounts that spread the risk across a variety of investments. By doing so they often can guarantee a minimum return. This may provide a lower return than stocks but is generally much safer. When looking for a mutual fund to invest in look for one with at least a five year record for meeting their target return. Talk to a broker near you to learn more about investment opportunities, and how to put your money to work for you.

Budgeting sofware

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Teach your kids to save.

A fun and serious responsibility

One reason that people get themselves into trouble with debt is that they were not taught the dangers of debt, and the importance of having savings. Teaching kids to manage money is an important responsibility of parents. You must teach them how to work for money, rather than just giving it to them, so they can appreciate its value. If they work for it, they are less likely to waist it. Chores and report cards are great ways to help kids work for money.

To start teaching them get them a piggy bank. This can be a simple mason jar or something cute. While they are young the physical piggy bank allows them to visualize the process of saving. You can further teach them to save and invest by offering them interest on what they leave in their bank. This will help you teach them what happens when they put the money in the bank, so as they age you can move their money to an actual bank rather than the piggy bank.

Teaching about checking accounts and credit cards are also essential for good functioning in life. You can teach them about checking accounts by allowing them to carry homemade checks for their piggy bank, and allowing them to use them at stores with you, to have you make a purchase. If they over draft you should charge them a fee on their next income just as a bank would, and if they are trying to buy something they obviously do not have the money for you can deny the transaction just as a debit transaction can be denied at a store for insufficient funds. You also need to teach the importance of tracking the balance of a checking account, by balancing a check book.

As for credit cards a good teaching method is to give them a fake one to be used while at the store. You should teach them that if they use credit that interest is charged, both before they use the card, and each time you take the interest from them. If they use their card to make a purchase when you get home retrieve the cost plus five or ten percent from their piggy bank. If they spend money they do not have and do not work it off in a week you can charge them a one dollar late fee to teach them about fees.

The simpler lessons like saving are okay for younger children, but credit cards and checking may not be understood by younger children and only cause frustration. For this reason I recommend that if you are going to use these methods that you start them at 8 or older. At this point they are old enough to do chores, and even ask neighbors about chores that need to be done for 50 cents, a dollar, or two.

Not only should kids be taught how to manage money, but they should be taught how to give back when they have money. The bible teaches use that we should tithe on our increase. This means that one tenth of what we earn does not belong to us, but should go to doing the Lord's work. You can teach your children about giving to worthy causes, and churches. Teach them about service to others and donation of time and money to help those who are unable to help themselves, or donating to charities that help people get up and on their feet.

If you teach your child these lessons they will enter the world more prepared than most 18 year old kids. They will avoid traps like credit cards and over draft fees when they go away to college, or are not under your roof. This is a solemn responsibility of parents, and one that your children with thank you for one day, when they see their friends struggling to get out of debt.
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The National Debt

On the Bullet Train to Ruin.

Max Tanigawa shinkansen (bullet train) head by Rudy HermanNot only do we as individuals need to learn to get our budget under control to succeed, but as a nation we need to also. Here is a link to the US DEBT CLOCK. If you are feeling ambitious tonight write your senator or give them a call and tell them to get their spending under control or you will fire them. Remind them that there is not an income problem but a spending problem. Raising taxes to the point of taking every dollar from every millionaire and billionaire in the country will still not close the gap between what government spends and what they bring in. We need to insist that those that we have hired to represent us are really representing our values and live within their means. Don't forget to share this with your friends so we can get the word out.

"There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt." John Adams 1826. I think China figured this one out.

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Guestbook Comments

  • rangiiria Dec 5, 2011 @ 11:01 pm | delete
    I'm fortunate enough to live in a semi-rural area with only one shop nearby. So I'm not tempted to shop :)
  • COUNTRYLUTHIER Oct 10, 2011 @ 7:05 pm | delete
    Great lens for getting rid of the "debt people" in our lives. Many thanks for sharing.
  • bernie74 Sep 25, 2011 @ 11:09 pm | delete
    Great ideas here, I do a spreadsheet and follow it. I am always updating each week to add in other outgoings like upcoming Drs bill etc. I actually have my Budget set out for 6 months and most of the time it only need some minor tweaking.. Bt its still not telling me where the money ic coming from to support our move to another state in 10 weeks and 5 days!!!...lol
  • illuminatingenigma Sep 26, 2011 @ 6:31 am | delete
    Depending on how much you need a temporary second job may get the job done. It cost me just over $2000 to move across country. If you deliver pizza in the evenings for a couple weeks, and donate plasma at the maximum rate they will let you if you are in good health you can probably get together $1500-2000 with relative ease. Good luck, pray hard, and keep up the hard work.
  • gooddealsbooks Sep 25, 2011 @ 1:57 pm | delete
    Great Lens wanna sell it?
  • smithlights Sep 25, 2011 @ 1:27 pm | delete
    Great tips! I was never in debt until I started grad school and had to take out loans to pay for it. But I paid for my B.A. as I went, so I had no debt. Thanks for writing all these ideas down for us!
  • elsychapman Sep 25, 2011 @ 6:21 am | delete
    Congrad for the 100% len!

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  • jackiebolen Sep 24, 2011 @ 6:25 pm | delete
    Debt does equal slavery, and it's amazing to me that more people don't realize this. Also, the simple fact that compound interest can either work for you or against you.
  • glockr Sep 23, 2011 @ 8:17 pm | delete
    I like this lens very much, but the last section (Is there enough for me?) doesn't really fit in with the rest of it. Not that I disagree, just that it would maybe make more sense on a separate lens (hint, hint).

    Cheers,
    glockr
  • damagedinc Sep 3, 2011 @ 12:50 pm | delete
    Great lens. People need to WAKE UP! DEBT = SLAVERY
  • mamabush Aug 24, 2011 @ 12:55 pm | delete
    This is one of my favorite lenses...great job!
  • Duane_Jackson Aug 20, 2011 @ 10:07 pm | delete
    Very informative lens and thoroughly enjoyed!
  • nature-photographer Aug 20, 2011 @ 9:56 am | delete
    Debt is dumb. The more people can figure out how to live without debt, the better off we'll all be.
  • cducky Aug 19, 2011 @ 9:01 pm | delete
    Great info! very nice!
  • NvrTllMeThOdds Aug 19, 2011 @ 2:58 pm | delete
    A simple, but intelligent lens. Good work.
  • MyAroma Aug 19, 2011 @ 6:22 am | delete
    I think that simply not buying things you can't afford right now (be it a pair of designer shoes or a car) is the best way to avoid debt.
  • Wordwinder Aug 19, 2011 @ 1:34 am | delete
    An interesting lens on the simple basics of living.

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