I Want to Tell You About the Best eBay Alternatives

andrewsquidoo by andrewsquidoo
Last updated: 01/19/2012

I Needed an eBay Alternative Fast!

I needed an eBay alternative. Since 1998, I made my living as an eBay seller. I loved every second of it, and I met some really cool people along the way. eBay was a wonderful, nurturing place, and a great way to make money. I was lucky enough to be able to do it full time, and I made more money than any job would have allowed. Recently though, all hell broke loose. Some of my products were e-books. Not crappy e-books being sold for a penny, but quality, useful and popular e-books that helped folks accomplish or learn something useful. eBay didn't like that however, and with one new rule, my business was gone. Years of building it for nothing.

You can learn more about what happened to me at my Blog

Check out the "My Silent Team" website to find MANY alternatives to eBay

One of the best things I ever did for my business, was joining Jim Cockrum's My Silent Team website. He has many experts on that site who are able and willing to help ebayers make a lot more money with alternative methods.

If you do nothing else, give Jim's site a look. I think you will be very happy you did.

Now, lets move onward...

Selling On The River

Selling on the River became the code name folks used on the eBay forums. People started talking about Amazon, but eBay would delete any threads with that word immediately. So, Selling on the River was born.

It is also the title of a book I learned from, that teaches exactly what to do to sell your products on Amazon.com. This was an invaluable resource that allowed me to start making a living full time again. Amazon has NO listing fees! None.


You only pay ONE fee if your item sells. No need for Paypal either and its additional transaction fees! People pay you directly through Amazon-a name you know as do people around the world. You simply must give this a try! Even if you are still making money at eBay, get another stream of income coming to you. You will be so glad you did. There is a right way and a wrong way to sell on Amazon. "Selling on the River" will show you the right way, and the best way to sell your items.


The website to learn about selling on Amazon is: http://www.sellingontheriver.com

Amazon Blows The Door off Earnings and Adds 400,000 new sellers

by Skip McGrath

Amazon announced earnings earlier this week that shocked Wall Street.  Net sales were up 42%. Net Income (profits after taxes) were up 71% for the quarter and 40% for the full year to $902 million.  These are numbers that eBay can only lust after.

But more amazing was the increase in the number of independent sellers who now sell on Amazon.  The number of independent sellers grew 40% to over 1.6 million.  eBay doesn't release their numbers, but I believe that is higher number of sellers than eBay has. Of course that doesn't mean that all of those sellers are active. Amazon is like eBay in the sense that a lot of people only sell occasionally.  I would guess that 10% of the total sellers on both networks represent over 75% of the sales.

If you want to learn more about selling on Amazon, you may want to attend the SCOE meeting of Independent Amazon Sellers that will be held in Seattle this coming July. I attended last year and really enjoyed it and learned a lot.

The first day consisted of vendor meetings & presentations and networking with other Amazon sellers. The second day was a series of presentations and seminars with Amazon executives and on the last day the meeting closed with a visit to Amazon headquarters.  I found the Amazon execs to be very accessible and helpful.  At last year's meeting they announced that they were going after new sellers aggressively and it has worked -evidenced by bringing in almost 400,000   new sellers since that time.

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A Guide to eBay's Spring 2009 Changes by Ina Steiner

or as I say...the end of eBay

by Ina Steiner

eBay made some major announcements on Tuesday, April 14, 2009. The marketplace will expand the rollout its new Item page, launch a new dispute resolution process, introduce new features for sellers including a Smart FAQ and Multi-variation Fixed Price listings, and more. We've listed some items that might have slipped your notice and created a list of helpful links to learn more about these changes.

Some important things to know about eBay's forthcoming changes:

Sellers will have the option to cross-merchandise on other each others' relevant item pages. ("You can choose not to have cross-merchandising on your item pages, but your relevant items won't appear on other sellers' items pages.")

eBay will introduce Multi-variation Fixed Price listings in certain Clothing, Shoes, & Accessories and Home & Garden categories, which allows sellers to include multiple variations of one product (such as color and size) in one multi-quantity Fixed Price listing. Note that each variation has its own Best Match score.

eBay is introducing a new dispute resolution process for when buyers claim their item was not received or the item they received was not as described in the listing

Sellers are advised to upload package-tracking information for UPS and USPS shipments. Starting June 15, this information will be highlighted for buyers in My eBay. (And eBay will factor this information in the new dispute resolution process.)

Sellers may pay for shipping and print labels on eBay. ("We're gradually moving online shipping services from PayPal to eBay to make it faster and easier to pay for shipping and print labels.")

eBay is moving Estimated delivery and handling time to the top of the new Item listing page and is removing High Bidder, Seller Location and Member Since from the Item listing page.

eBay is using iFrames in the new Item page. ("Separating user-generated content, such as item descriptions, from eBay content enables eBay to provide an extra layer of security. The separation will prevent users from submitting HTML that may interfere with how eBay works.")

Sellers can turn on "Smart FAQs" by going to My eBay > My Account > Seller Preferences > FAQ. ("This is a new free feature that draws on live information from your listings to answer the top 20 buyer questions before buyers reach you through the "Ask a question" or "Contact seller" links.")

About the author:

Ina Steiner is Editor of AuctionBytes.com and author of "Turn eBay Data Into Dollars" (McGraw-Hill 2006). She has a background in marketing and research in the high-tech and publishing fields. If you have story ideas, comments or questions, send them to ina@auctionbytes.com

Now eBay Thinks They're Overstock.com

by Skip McGrath

It wasn't that long ago I was accusing eBay of trying to be Amazon.com. I wasn't the only one - that was the consensus of a lot of eBay sellers --and many buyers too. Then a few weeks ago eBay threw us a curve when they made an announcement at their analyst's day that they would start to focus their efforts on attracting large liquidation sellers.

This is the market that has been targeted by Overstock.com for several years so it looks like eBay wants to go head-to-head with them. The problem is that eBay has never demonstrated any knowledge of merchandising. eBay may have the money, the traffic and the depth of technology resources far beyond what Overstock.com has, but they lack one important thing....

You can read the rest of the article HERE

Selling on the River Updated for 2010

Do you still need Selling on the River to get your business going again? It has just been updated for 2009.

Customers are still out there - but they're shopping on Amazon!

"Last week, online retailer Ebay Inc (NASDAQ GS: EBAY) reported a 6.6 percent sales decline, citing a drop in its global e-commerce sales."

"Amazon is a company that treats its customers better than EBay," Scott Devitt, an analyst at Stifel Nicolaus & Co., told Bloomberg. "From a competitive standpoint between the two, I don't think there's any turning back.""*

*Source - http://www.istockanalyst.com 1/30/2009

Rather than trade one marketplace for another, Selling on the River will show you how to make more money by selling on Amazon. Stay with eBay, or leave it, but don't ignore eBay's biggest competitor.

By selling on multiple channels you can drastically increase your online income. Get started right now with Selling on the River

UPDATE: eBay Marketplace Sales Tank 16%

Article by Skip McGrath

I was reading the newest newsletter by Skip McGrath and he was talking about eBay's earnings in 2008. Here is a snipet from the article:

"eBay reported their financial results for the 4th Quarter of 2008 and it was pretty bad. The Marketplaces business unit, which consists of eBay, Shopping.com, StubHub, Kijiji and other ecommerce sites, recorded $1.27 billion in revenue, equating to a 16% year-over-year decline. eBay attributed the revenue drop to the impact made by the strengthening dollar and the slow-down of the ecommerce market globally on the eBay business.

Approximately 55% of Marketplaces revenue came from markets outside the U.S. Gross merchandise volume (the value of all goods and services sold on eBay --excluding vehicles) was $11.47 billion for the quarter, a decrease of 12%, compared to the fourth quarter of 2007."

Check out Skips newsletter here: http://www.skipmcgrath.com/newsletters/current.shtml#three

Do You Wonder Where eBay Went Wrong?

Here are two articles that tell you what happened.

Here is an article by Victoria Barret in Forbes Magazine called: "The Real Reason eBay Is Stuck" that details why the problems occurred.

The second article is by Alan Lewis, former Creator/Product Manager for eBay Desktop. Alan describes the problems and what happened from directly within ebay. You can read the article on Alan's site, HERE.

These Folks need an eBay Alternative too

I have read many heart-breaking stories of other folks whose businesses were ruined by eBay overnight. Many of them are now back at regular dead-end jobs because the eBay conglomerate has grown too big and powerful with big corporations in mind rather than the everyday small business.

eBay is no fun anymore.

These heart wrenching stories don't need to happen anymore. It is time for a real eBay alternative.

Protect Your Business Now with an eBay Alternative

I am not trying to scare you. I am simply warning you. Do not put all of your eggs in eBay's basket. It is no longer safe to do. If you only sell on eBay, you don't own your business. They do, and they can "fire" you at any time. Yes, it is time for an eBay alternative.

If you get nothing out of what I am saying, please consider this. You need to start diversifying your business. You need to sell at other places besides eBay, but where? I am sure you have tried other auction sites only to be disappointed. They just don't have the traffic like eBay.

There is one site though, that does. This past Christmas, for the first time ever, this one site beat eBay not only in traffic, but also sales. That site is Amazon.com and they are waiting for you to come and sell your items with them.

And the eBay Alternative Winner Is...

Is Your eBay Business Safe?

This isn't just for e-book sellers.

Yes, we are the ones who got shafted this time, but no matter what you sell on eBay, your time will come. eBay is promising many more changes. They have said by next year at this time, you won't even recognize eBay.

They are trying to drive the average small seller away. We don't matter to them. eBay has been hard at work luring big corporations. They give these companies unfair advantage over us smaller sellers. That is why they recently changed the feedback system. It has nothing to do with making eBay safer.

Paypal is changing too. Did you know that one of the next things eBay wants to do is make it mandatory that you use Paypal? Yep, eBay will soon be a Paypal only site. No more personal checks or money orders or directing people to another payment site. Oh, and did you know that unless you have a certain feedback rating, Paypal can hold the money paid to you for 21 days? You still have to ship the product immediately, but you may not get the money for almost a month. And with the convenient new feedback system, most sellers will not be getting their money for 21 days.

Things are changing fast at eBay and your business could be in danger tomorrow just like mine. If you are ready to diversify your income, and protect yourself from whatever eBay comes up with next, then do what I did and learn how to sell your items on Amazon. Check out the new book called, Selling on the River.

eBay Update - eBay in 2009

I love the free AuctionBytes newsletter and I have been reading it for years. If you sell on eBay or are searching for an eBay Alternative, you might want to check it out.

Here is a snippet from the current issue that should be of interest to my readers...

"Here are some things we see happening in 2009.

Increased taxes and regulation, with states continuing to look to ecommerce for tax revenue. Large retailers have introduced anti-fencing bills in Congress that would open eBay sellers' records to retailers, and the credit card industry is continuing its PCI DSS compliance efforts that may ultimately increase costs for small retailers.

If you sell children's items, you don't want to miss this news about the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act (CPSIA), which imposes third-party testing requirements for all consumer products primarily intended for children twelve years of age or younger.

eBay will run more third-party advertising on its site in 2009. Combined with "Diamond PowerSeller" listings from large-volume retailers, the site will look more like an ad platform and comparison shopping site, and less like a C2C marketplace.
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Amazon's Inroads against eBay

by Ina Steiner

Brad Stone wrote an article for the New York Times today about the competition between eBay and Amazon. eBay CEO John Donahoe, like the Dennis the Menace character he is compared to by eBayers (Meg Whitman was Blondie), manages to stir things up without meaning to when he characterizes online auctions as time-wasters.

Stone writes that Donahoe "now embraces a "turnaround mind-set" and is refocusing its Web marketplace toward shoppers who don't want to waste time in online auctions. "There are times when I wish we can close this store and just open a new store, but we can't," he said. "We need to make bolder, more aggressive changes to the eBay ecosystem even if they are unpopular.""

Meanwhile Stone praises Amazon's Jeff Bezos as a long-term visionary, and writes that "third-party vendors - the foundation on which eBay was built - now account for about 29 percent of sales on Amazon."

eBay's short-term thinking versus Amazon's long-term thinking was reflected in the way the companies rewarded managers, as well as their investment strategies:

"While eBay was buying into classified advertising, online payments and Internet telephony, Amazon spent hundreds of millions of dollars building its brand as a trusted retailer - hiring customer service representatives and returning money to customers when transactions went awry."

While he makes clear that Amazon.com exerts more control over its third-party merchants than eBay had traditionally done, Stone doesn't raise an important issue. Merchants face the risk of being permanently booted off the site at any time and face seasonal suspensions. (Amazon suspends many toy sellers from posting in that category each holiday shopping season, for example.) He did touch on the fact that merchants compete directly with Amazon.com, but some believe Amazon extensively mines third-party merchant data to its competitive advantage.

The article points out some of the problems with eBay's management over the years, and lays the blame at Meg Whitman's feet. Short-term focus ("the company was obsessed with making quarterly numbers"), inability to define itself, failing to understand the competitive landscape, waffling (eBay Express), and a lack of focus - and Whitman's failure to get her team to agree on eBay's core mission.

As eBay continues to roll out change after change in 2008, many have tried to understand Donahoe's vision of eBay. The company has not communicated its vision well other than wanting-cake-and-eat-it-too statements - eBay wants to have a retail-like experience with great value and selection (the Amazonification of eBay), but also wants the small sellers and online auction format. Yet eBay's actions seems to be focused on only the first part of that vision.

Brad Stone said eBay wants to be a discount store. "This is where Mr. Donahoe talks about a vision to fix eBay, and to create a Web discount store that offers a wide variety of new and old merchandise in auction and fixed-price formats. To get there, he must administer the sweeping, painful fixes that eBay has previously shunned."

It appears that eBay is becoming an automated marketplace where algorithms do the work of reducing counterfeiting and fraud, and big-box retailers and distributors load their catalogs onto the site to fill out the inventory. This allows eBay to reduce labor-intensive tasks such as customer-service and fraud investigations, while it serves up contextual and behavioral-targeted advertisements to shoppers. This allows eBay to focus on its online payments business, an area where - for now - it leads Amazon.

eBay Alternative Duel

Is eBay still the best place to sell?

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I like eBay

sherridan says:

I predominantly buy rather than sell (used) products from eBay and there is a huge choice if you do not know what you are looking for and like to window shop, but Amazon is often cheaper for certain items which people may not realise. Interesting lens and some helpful information in the comments below, as well

hprudavis says:

Ebay is pissing me off lately too, I can't figure out how they are actually charging me no matter how hard I keep the numbers and work them out. Grrrr. I looked into amazon and didn't like that either. Has anyone on here tried Bonanza? I heard it was free but it doesn't seem to be and I suspect they are owned by Ebay anyway...

Keith Rich says:

http://www.petitiononline.com/jdonohoe/petition.html
If every one signs the petition to remove Donohoe as CEO his policys would be removed as well!
sign the petition and fees drop, buyer protection is gone, negative feedback for buyers come back and in time the hundreds of thousands of seller that used to buy our goods will return!

blackspanielgallery says:

The fees are too high but they still bring the traffic. Until some other service gets the traffic, eBay will have to do.

Harold Bawlz says:

UPDATE: Ebay has officially changed its name to FeeBay! Makes good sence as their fees are out of control, Such insane fees have Forced sellers to scam buyers by inflating shipping and handeling fees. Its fairly common to pay more for shipping the item then buying it. The begining of the end is upon them,

I like Amazon

Kim says:

Thanks for a very helpful lens. I listed several items on eBay last week, not realizing that eBay had changed its policy to now withhold payment for people who have not had 25 positive reviews in the past 6 months. Still waiting for them to release my payments to PayPal, even though USPS tracking proves both items were delivered early last week. After they finally release my payments, I'll still have to wait 3 days for funds to transfer to my bank. And this is with an eBay account that is 6 years old and has 50 reviews--all 100% positive. I'm off to sell on Amazon, based largely on the information you have provided, and will visit your site. Thanks again!

jtrandall says:

A majority of my sales have been made through ebay. However, the fees are really starting to kill me. The biggest problem is that the average shopper on that site values price over quality. With the fee structure they have, it's nearly impossible to fairly monetize your time.

I've been trying to increase sales on alternative sites (specifically, Etsy). I took a look a while back at Amazon. Maybe it's time for a closer peek.

In the meantime, I'll continue to sell my soul over on ebay.

bob says:

Not since they insist on the private SS #...beware of poachers!!

amylook says:

I click amazon becos still I think better that eBay how they treat member, anyone who left for sure will not return, any website who do not get support by member will gone, just like how Google take over yahoo in search engine,

We need to be careful if any other website once they start get popular and they start screw his member like eBay done today, so now I will work with some other eBay alternative like

Amazon, bonanzale, and a new lunch who promise no fee for life haohaodot.com , I will not do the same mistake put all egg in one basket, it is too risky for those sellers who use to sell online. I got 2 boy to feed and I use to make at least 2-3k per month in eBay, now they limited 10 listing per month, my profit margin was 1-2 per trade, how can I live with 20 per months, eBay really suck

Martha says:

Ebay has spending limits no matter how long you have been with them, even
more than 10 years! They insist on having all your banking info, even though
they are not a bank and are not insured.
They have increased their fees and it does not matter whether you have a
sale or not.
They have increased their snooping into your private lives and and have
stripped people of their privacy.
I noticed that they also filter the search results based on the customer.
I did a test and could see this by following two friends of mine and
watching what came up, and with the same exact search words and
phrases.

I prefer Amazon. Amazon is a retailer, just as Ebay is. But Amazon
respects your privacy and ususally can provide the same or better
quality merchandise for less money and many times free shipping.

There are other web sites out there like iOffer, but they have a long
way to go, and even so it is a good alternative to Ebay.

Ebay is too big for their own good.

 
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You can determine if a product is likely to fetch a good price on Amazon - with your cell phone, right from any store, yard sale or flea market. Selling on the River will show you how.

More Small Sellers to Get the Boot from eBay in October...

It is time to find ebay alternatives now

According to the Auctionbytes newsletter, eBay has made more changes, and here are three of the biggies:
  1. eBay's Buy It Now (BIN) Fixed-Price format is changing to a 30-day duration with a 35-cent listing fee and Final Value Fees that vary according to category.

  2. Sellers are no longer able to accept paper payments - only merchant credit card accounts, ProPay, and PayPal will be acceptable, effective late October.

  3. eBay is suspending selling activity on accounts that fall to 4.3 in any of their Detailed Seller Ratings (DSRs).
I would like to call your attention to number 2. Do you realize how many small sellers will get the boot in October. Many small sellers don't want to accept Paypal because of the fees that rob their profits. Are you finally seeing how eBay feels about the small seller?

Are you ready to do something about it? If you are, then look atAmazon as a way to sell your items. Another good way and a possible solution would be eBay Classified Ads.

I know this sucks, but don't get discouraged! There are options and solutions. I am giving you some on this lens. This could actually be a good thing for you and it will open new doors if you let it.

Don't let eBay control your business anymore. Learn to control it yourself so that no matter what these sites do in the future, you can take it in stride.

More eBay Changes in September

I recently reported here, that as of September 1st, you could no longer include an email address in your ebay classified ads. I just received an update about this...

UPDATE JULY 1ST:

It seems eBay has changed it's mind. Tracey Edwards, an eBay Classified Ads expert, has just announced that eBay WILL allow email addresses in Classified Ads after September. This is good news for a change. If you have been thinking about trying eBay Classified Ads, (and I do recommend them) then Tracey Edwards is your go-to gal.

eBay Classifieds Cash

This is the Real Deal - The Best eBay Alternative

When I lost my ebook business overnight, I was scared. I didn't know what to do, and things seemed bleak. Then, after I decided to stop feeling sorry for myself, I began searching for other ways to sell online.

Now you can take a short cut, because I have told you the best source I found to do just that. Please take the first step towards protecting your business and you income. I only want to help you find a way out of the eBay trap like I did. Good luck to you and let me know how it goes!

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    blackspanielgallery Jan 10, 2012 @ 6:21 pm | delete
    Nice lens
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    andrewsquidoo Jan 8, 2012 @ 12:14 pm | delete
    Hi CoachBrown and thank you for your comment. I understand that Amazon doesn't work for everyone, which is why I will be expanding this lens in 2012 to encompass many ideas to run a business online.

    One idea right now is to check out the MySilentTeam website. They have many money making ideas to try. I recommend them highly. One of the best things to do this year is getting your own website going and learning how to promote it. This puts you in the driver's seat instead of a third party website. Check out the http://blog.auctionbytes.com blog for more ideas and places to sell too. Good luck!
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    CoachBrown Jan 7, 2012 @ 1:53 pm | delete
    I'm here because like so many others I just lost my business at eBay for the same reasons some of you had, but Amazon is not an option for me. I live in a state that requires Amazon to report my sales and collect sales taxes on their behalf, so rather than accept this state-mandate Amazon restricts sellers from my state. I love Amazon but still need an alternative - and based on what I'm seeing I'm feeling like a bottom feeder; nothing looks good.
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    iwrite4cash Nov 1, 2011 @ 7:42 pm | delete
    eBay was my outlet to selling items until they suspended my account 30 seconds after I posted 4 brand new with tags T-shirts, I had to wait as I work odd hours and had been on late that night, I call the next day as eBay had absolutely NO way to contact any other way than by phone to resolve this problem that eBay had. The conversation went with no remorse as eBay gave me very vague details saying how "they did not feel comfortable with listing my items on their site and you will have to find a different way to sell your items, and your account will stay suspended!" I replied, "So what is the difference between my T-shirts with tags compared to all of the other shirts already listed?" I got the same response and hung up! I was appalled with this service I was getting for selling T-shirts that altogether equaled under $75! I started using: www/squidoo.com/start-using-yardsellr and have been very pleased! The only thing keeping eBay alive is their massive traffic, but backed by poor customer service is going to ruin them, Yardsellr.com uses Facebook and the two interact quite well, get the traffic from FB and eBay will sink!
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    madinvestment Oct 31, 2011 @ 11:23 am | delete
    WOW! Thanks for sharing your ideas and tips with the squid community. This is a fantastic lens! Keep up the great work.

    One big thumbs up vote given for this lens.
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    cffutah Oct 25, 2011 @ 6:25 pm | delete
    no alternative story, just like the feel for amazon better. 'thumbs up' for ya on your lens.
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    tahoe cale Oct 23, 2011 @ 6:43 pm | delete
    The online auction community needs to take a stand against ebay, by supporting alternative auction sites such as ours and other free listing online auction sites. With the continued support of our auction sellers and buyers, we can make buying and selling in online auctions fun and affordable once again. Our goal as a free online auction site is not only to become an ebay alternative, but to become a highly regarded online auctions marketplace. Join Oceansbay Online Auction Site today to start buying and saving, or sell in our free listing online auctions... You have nothing to lose, join our online auctions community today.

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    bikerministry Oct 10, 2011 @ 4:42 pm | delete
    I'm linking your info here! Blessings.
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    adamfrench Oct 8, 2011 @ 4:14 pm | delete
    Impressive lens, thumbs up
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    JodiFromFlorida Oct 7, 2011 @ 3:10 pm | delete
    I am still looking for an eBay alternative. I rarely sell on eBay any more because their fees are ridiculous.
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