Executor Responsibilities ~ Good-To-Know Stuff
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Being An Executor
I've just experienced Executor Responsibilities first hand. My 82 year old mother passed away 7 and a half months ago and I just wrapped up the estate dealings, for now.
I have to admit, I'm very fortunate in that I have a great relationship with both of my brothers, so no money squabbles or dysfunctional relationships to deal with. The other thing that made the whole thing easier as well was, my mother did not have a quality of life worth sticking around for, so her passing was more of a blessing. So, my purpose here is to share some of the things I did that made the task smoother and some of the things I might have done differently or sooner had I known and some good-to-know stuff that I learned in the process. I know everybody's situation will be different and this is based on mine. So, if you are a future executor or a soon to be one, I hope you find this helpful.
I have to admit, I'm very fortunate in that I have a great relationship with both of my brothers, so no money squabbles or dysfunctional relationships to deal with. The other thing that made the whole thing easier as well was, my mother did not have a quality of life worth sticking around for, so her passing was more of a blessing. So, my purpose here is to share some of the things I did that made the task smoother and some of the things I might have done differently or sooner had I known and some good-to-know stuff that I learned in the process. I know everybody's situation will be different and this is based on mine. So, if you are a future executor or a soon to be one, I hope you find this helpful.
Executor Preparations
A 'Before It's Too Late' Check List
2. Who has Power of Attorney? Who is the Executor?
3. Executor Compensation?
3. What are the wishes of the future diseased?
4. Some considerations if a loved one is terminally ill.
5. Probate & Probate Fees
Is There A Will?
This may sound obvious, but if you have children or dependents, you need a will. If you don't and you unexpectedly pass away, the government will decide for you and have control of your money and assets. That was a scary enough thought for me. If you have an elderly parent, be sure to ask if they have an up-to-date will as well as a Living Will.A Living Will is put into place in the event that a person is still living, but is incapable of making medical decisions on their own. For example, do they wish to have life support? And who is the family member in charge of executing these wishes?
Who is Power of Attorney / Executor?
Knowing this before hand is crucial, as this person will need to know where the will is kept. Also if the Power of Attorney/Executor happens to move far away or if there are multiple Executors, this makes things much more difficult.
There have been a lot of deaths in our family and one of the hindsights of my husband and his siblings was this very issue. His mother, who was widowed at this point, had appointed all of her four children as executors, as she felt this was the fairest way to do things and it wouldn't have been a problem except that her oldest daughter and her family were going to be moving more than half way across Canada right after her imminent death. So, when it came time to sign papers, as all executor signatures had to be on all the documents, they had to be couriered back and forth across the country each time!
The last thing I will mention here is possibly something you will have no control over, but an executor should be someone who is fair and honest, who will put the needs and requests of the deceased first and that the rest of the family can put their trust in.
There have been a lot of deaths in our family and one of the hindsights of my husband and his siblings was this very issue. His mother, who was widowed at this point, had appointed all of her four children as executors, as she felt this was the fairest way to do things and it wouldn't have been a problem except that her oldest daughter and her family were going to be moving more than half way across Canada right after her imminent death. So, when it came time to sign papers, as all executor signatures had to be on all the documents, they had to be couriered back and forth across the country each time!
The last thing I will mention here is possibly something you will have no control over, but an executor should be someone who is fair and honest, who will put the needs and requests of the deceased first and that the rest of the family can put their trust in.
Executor Compensation?
However, it is something I would suggest being discussed, because there is a lot more to it than meets the eye. If I had been working fulltime outside of the home at a job, I would have had to take time off work or hired daycare if my kids had been little. It's a time consuming and tedious responsibility in of itself and if you are overcome with grief and other stresses as well, it makes perfect sense to be compensated by the estate above and beyond your portion of the inheritance.
What Are The Wishes of the Will Holder?
Also, discuss burial wishes before as well.
Considerations If A Loved One Is Terminally Ill
The other consideration if a loved one has been given a terminal diagnosis, which was the case with my mother-in-law, is to have the investments liquidated before hand and disperse it to the beneficiaries as 'gifts'. The reason for this is to get around probate fees and inheritance tax if you reside in the US. This was an after thought, which my husband and his siblings wish they had considered before the death of their mother, as she would have been mentally aware enough for a while to have discussed this and would have been in agreement.
My brothers and I tried to put this in motion with our mother's financial advisor when we were told she probably had only a week to live, but she ended up passing away within 24 hours, otherwise it would have been feasible to do. We were very relieved she didn't wait around though!
I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way, but if you look at it from the point of having as much of your hard earned money go to the family that actually loved you, rather than dishing out large sums for fees and taxes to people that know you as a customer number, I know I would want that for my kids.
Remember, this is only a consideration and may not be the right thing for you and your family.
Probate & Fees
A will goes to probate in order for a financial institute, such as a bank or investment firm to guarantee the disbursement of funds with as little risk as possible. Usually, it will only apply to investments that total more than $75,000 -$100,000. In some cases it is as little as $50,000, it just depends on the institute. I was told by both my mom's lawyer, who we hired to look after the estate dealings, and her financial advisor that the probate fees would be around 1.5% of the estate and that's what we ended up paying.
The probate process involves an investigation of the will at the financial institution or fund companies expense (hence the fees, which in reality, you pay). This investigation is to assure that the will in question is actually the 'Last Will & Testament' then after it goes before the court and receives an official stamp of approval that it is in fact, the last writing of the will. At this point I still felt like it was just a way for the fund companies to line their pockets. So, here's an example that was explained to me. Lets say the company chooses to guarantee and issue the funds in the will with no probate and the estate is closed and the monies distributed to the family members. But, a year later a beneficiary turns up with a copy of the will that was a more recent amendment than the rest of the family was aware of, then the fund company would be on the hook for the money. For example, if the deceased had been divorced and remarried or was involved in a relationship that was unknown to the immediate family. Now it made sense to me. I guess I was a bit naïve to scenarios like this and that they only happen in the movies, but the legal community sees it all and they really do play out in everyday life.
Anyway, I felt I understood the term and the reasoning behind the chunk of cash I was about to hand over to the lawyer above and beyond his fees.
Disclaimer
Just to be clear, I am not a lawyer or financial advisor, I'm just my late mom's loving daughter, caregiver and executor. I hope in sharing my experiences, afterthoughts, hindsights and grasping of legal procedures that someone, maybe you, may find this really helpful in preparing for an inevitable and daunting task. I realize this is only my story and pertains to my situation, so do your own research, ask questions and seek advice from the professionals you already have in place. I encourage you to have those conversations with your loved ones and siblings, so you're all on the same page when the time comes.
To your health & happiness,
Liz
To your health & happiness,
Liz
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keeping them happy
Jun 22, 2011 @ 10:30 pm | delete
- I have a stepson who informed me 6mos after my exhusbands death that I am the executor of my exhusbands estate. He is stalling on giving me a copy of the will and trust, access to the storage unit where all his effects are stored and the boxes of papers belonging to my late exhusband. He sites that he needs to take out all the person papers of my x's. I also have two children from the marriage of over 20 years. He has also refused to give them any information. The estate is too small for porbate and no real estate property is involved, just some personal items and a small amount of cash (@$10,000). The whole issue arose when my stepson could not cash any checks that came into the estate after his death. I feel I need to go through all the papers in order file the income taxes etc. What are my rights and how do I proceed?
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BlissNow
Aug 10, 2011 @ 1:32 pm | delete
- Personally, it wouldn't be worth inviting the stress and negative energy to my life to fight that one, but you have to decide if it's a battle worth it for you, and if you do decide, you will need to seek professional advice on how to do that.
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Frank R
Jun 22, 2011 @ 8:13 am | delete
- My mother passed away in California. she had no debts, a very small bank account, and an unencumbered property worth around 100K. Both the bank account and the property were in her and my younger brothers name. Her will stipulates that I am executor and that the property is to be split evenly between myself and two siblings. Whats the proper way to get the property in the name of the three beneficiaries?
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BlissNow
Aug 10, 2011 @ 1:39 pm | delete
- As the executor you are in charge of that duty, and liquidating the property. If it were me, I would seek professional council from my mother's financial adviser or her own lawyer as the best way to proceed. This way there is no potential conflict between siblings, I would avoid using your own personal legal and professional resources as it is a conflict of interest, unless your siblings all agree.
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jennifer allen
Jun 2, 2011 @ 1:28 am | delete
- My auntie pass an as a neice thats been like a daughter to her since i can remember,i recieved insurance papers on a polciy that the named benfic.is deseased an none of the other family members cant be located an she had no bio.children.i have been in touch with company an there running me crazy but now i need to find out if there is a executor or administrator or how to optain a small estate affidavit..seeming as if insurance is just running me around..help with were due i look or who to call.fyi been dealing wit since nov2010
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BlissNow
Jun 3, 2011 @ 8:19 am | delete
- I have no background in the legalities, only speaking from my experience. What I would do in this situation is seek council from a lawyer that I have already done dealings with that I can trust. I wouldn't know how to handle that on my own ...
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blutrudream
May 25, 2011 @ 7:45 am | delete
- Joint account is very bad advice ... the title of the account by-passes the stipulations of the will and the joint account holder can take the money at any time ... Have a Power of Attorney instead ... the POA can write checks, pay bills, etc and has a fiduciary responsibility. In our case, involving several elderly members of our family, the joint account holders walked away with the money.
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BlissNow
Jun 3, 2011 @ 8:14 am | delete
- Thank you for specifying that, in my case I was the POA as well, but you bring up a very good point ...
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puzzlemaker
Feb 19, 2011 @ 6:41 am | delete
- BlissNow,
I've remember this article for at least a year since I read it. I didn't have ANY experience with wills, executors etc. then, but now I do. My grandmother died and I was a beneficiary and I just wanted to mention something to help others. You see, one of the things my grandmother owned was a car and I inherited that car. But from the day she died - it sat for 1 year+ without being cranked or moved in any way which is the WORST thing that can happen to a car. It is the perfect "Grandmother car," she kept it immaculate and in perfect condition - I mean perfect! BUT since it sat without anyone thinking to add a fuel stabilizer, cranking it up and getting the tires moving around a little etc. it suffered. A simple cranking and driving up and down the driveway every month or so would have kept it in good condition. Now I realize a fuel stabilizer should have been added to keep the gas for going stale and gumming up everything. We are now sorting through the dead battery, dry rotted tires, old gas etc.Who knew? We were all upset when she died then had tons of paperwork to take care of. No one thought about the ill effects on the car sitting idle for a year. So just a tip for others and the executor to move any cars around a bit as they sit and details are sorted out. Thanks for this wonderful article!
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PJackson
Feb 9, 2011 @ 5:25 pm | delete
- I am named in my mother's will as one of the executors of the estate along with anohter sister. She previously had a POA for my mother's monthly expenses. As an executor does she automatically have a POA or does a new one have to be originated with the remaining siblings approval in order to perform the durtes of executor?
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