FairTax vs Flat Tax a debate run by Susan52

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HERE'S WHAT I SAY

 

The FairTax is Better than a Flat Tax

The IRS has gotten lost in its 60,000 pages of tax code and taxpayers are suffering from it. I want a fair tax, and I choose the FairTax plan.

Some people think a flat tax is a good idea. Others want to know what in the world the difference is between the FairTax plan and a flat tax. Some use the two terms interchangeably. Well, they're not the same and I'm going to show you why. And after I do, I'm still going to tell you that the FairTax is better than any flat tax you can throw my way.

You can have your say, too, but at the end of the day I still say the FairTax is better than a flat tax - or any other tax plan.

Quick, What Do You Think? 

What's your opinion right now, before I straighten you out with the facts below.

Most people have a quick "yeh, I like it" or "that can never work" opinion about the FairTax. What do you think, right now?

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HELP ME PROVE MY POINT 

If you agree, add links (proof!) that help me make my case

Where do you get your pro-FairTax information? Add a link here.

The FairTax - How to Make Paying Taxes Easy and Fair

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FairTax.org

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The Book that Got the FairTax Ball Rolling 

The FairTax Book (nothing fancy, but it works)

The FairTax Book

Amazon Price: $16.47 (as of 08/21/2008)

If you don't understand the FairTax, this is the book to turn to first. Really, the explanation is simple and fits into this paperback quite well. Easy to read. Great to give as a gift to your representatives in congress.

The Book that Answers the Remaining Questions 

Still have questions? Try this handy-dandy sequel to the book above.

FairTax: The Truth: Answering the Critics

Amazon Price: $10.17 (as of 08/21/2008)

Let's be honest. Neal Boortz and Congressman John Linder got tired of answering the same questions over and over and straightening out so many people who just have the "facts" wrong, so they wrote this book.

If you really want to be able to discuss the FairTax plan thoroughly and be able to answer the questions you get from your boss, neighbors, your friends, and even your congressman, then this is the book for you.

It's cheap. Buy two and share one.

FairTax Facts 

You've heard enough fiction on the TV news.

As a supporter of the FairTax, I get frustrated regularly when I hear the topic discussed on the news or on the radio. Even highly-paid journalists obviously haven't read the simple facts about the FairTax plan; that's clear by the questions they ask. Thank goodness presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, head cheerleader for the FairTax plan, has been given a decent amount of air time in order to get the "real" facts across.

Other than reading the FairTax books, listening to Governor Huckabee explain the FairTax is probably the quickest way to get the basic facts. So, let's turn this debate over to my state's former governor.

Mike Huckabee on why the "Fair Tax" is Great

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You know what April 15th means. With the FairTax, April 15th would be just another day.

DISPROVE MY POINT (fine, be that way) 

Disagree? Put your money where your mouth is and show me why.

Hey, I want you to explore both sides of the issue. If you have them, post links that point out why you think I'm wrong.

A Kinder, Gentler Flat Tax - Forbes.com

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About a Flat Tax 

No, it's not the same as the FairTax.

One thing about the FairTax, it's not only fair, it's simple. Read this article. I see nothing simple and, frankly, nothing particularly fair about this flat tax plan.

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I say the FairTax is better than a flat tax - or any other tax! 

Do you support the FairTax or a flat tax.

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The FairTax plan is the Best tax plan!

Susan52 says:

The fairtax is a consumption tax - you get to keep all of your income and just pay tax on what you SPEND. The flat tax is a tax on income. You just demonstrated that it is not a fair tax - and certainly not a simple tax.

I need to present more documentation here on both. I'll be working on that, so please check back. In the meantime, check your library for The FairTax Book.

(Posted February 14, 2008)

Icea says:

I'm confused on how the fairtax in more fair than a flat tax. The article seems to use rich man vs. poor man to make it's point. However, I fail to see justice in charging a wealthy person more (percentage-wise) than any other person.

Does a poor person use the services of the State less than a rich person? Are they not equal beneficiaries of the roads, schools, military, etc?

Please confirm:

A poor man making $25,000 per year on a flat tax would look like this: (25,000 - 9000) * .17 = $2,720 tax.

A rich man making $1,000,000 per year on a flat tax would look like this: (1,000,000 - 9000) * .17 = $168,470 tax.

They are both charged the same percentage rate but the rich man "pays more" of the burden on sheer volume.

The fair tax seems like a progressive tax that would require overhead in documentation and potential future loop-holes to boot.

Can you explain further?

(Posted February 14, 2008)

No! I'd rather flatten the FairTax!

McMick says:

Either tax would be a huge improvement. I voted for the flat tax as someone who had his own business for years and is familiar with all the trickery, deceit, class warfare etc. that congress uses to prevent either one from happening because only a handful want what's good for America.

Most do not want to give up their power to dispense favors, which gets them reelected; they have absolutely no intention of giving up that power unless we unite and overpower them the way we did with the immigration bill.

There is some movement to get flat tax forces and fair tax forces together to first get a flat tax on the way to a fair tax.

A man named Daniel Mitchell has a Youtube video on this, which I've seen but now cannot locate.

If we do bring about either tax, congress will have to be watched like hawks.

A majority would start immediately trying to get around any restriction on their ability to redistribute the wages of those who earn to their alleged victims, who do not earn.

I am fully behind any effort for either tax, but limiting congress to yearly budget increases that do not economic growth would actually serve us better, if we could make that happen.

We need to start electing 25-30 year olds to fight the seniority and cooperation of exchanging favors between the old men now in control.

Mark Curran says:

Scientology isn't whats wrong with the "fairtax" -- its MATH. Fairtax is a bunch of garbage math. Its like those little pills they sold suckers years ago, advertized to let you use water in your gas tank. Utter nonsense.

Yes -- its that stupid.

Fairtax only works if Math isn't real. For example, almost a trillion dollars that fairtax pretends to be able to collect -- comes from the GOVERNMENT itself.

That's right. The GOVERNMENT will just pay ITSELF a huge sales tax. How stupid can you get?

Neal Boortz wrote in The Fair Tax Book (Page 148) "The federal government ITSELF will become a MAJOR TAXPAYER".

How the hello can the government PAY ITSELF a tax? It would have to WRITE the check.

If governments can just write themselves checks to magically pay 900 billion in taxes - why stop there? Why not a trillion? WHy not 2 trillion? Hello, just leave us alone, let the government pay itself ALL its taxes.

 
 
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What do the bloggers think? 

Taxes are a popular topic on the blog scene.

Here's current blog feed about fair and flat taxes.
What’s the Definition of “Fair” and “Rich?”
How do we define ?fair?? I was always taught that ?fair? meant something like ?equitable.? In my mind, ?fair? means EVERYONE pays the same percentage (aka ?flat tax?). The more money you make, the more you pay in taxes. That's FAIR! ...
Comment on What’s the Definition of “Fair” and “Rich?” by tom
I'd say they already pay their ?fair? share. Talk about penalizing success! How much more does Obama want them to pay??? I completely agree with the flat tax? makes for an even playing field? however then we'll get into tax deductions? ...
Comment on What’s the Definition of “Fair” and “Rich?” by Amber Jones
?In my mind, ?fair? means EVERYONE pays the same percentage (aka ?flat tax?). The more money you make, the more you pay in taxes. That's FAIR!? Agreed!!

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