Managing a great forum community
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I don't claim to be the expert and I'm not going to make you rich.
But, I think I have a couple of insights from what I know that will help you create and maintain a great forum community for your niche`.
Content and Conversation
It's a two way street
A slick user interface will always draw people to join a website. But in the forum world, you need content to continue the conversation.
Here are 3 ways we continued to develop good content.
1. Member articles. We've always encouraged members to submit articles that on topic to our site. But we've also gone a step further and invited the really good authors to start columns.
2. Podcast. We recently added a different media by going audio. Just like with written articles, we ask members to submit on topic audio. It's a great way to get people excited about the community and it draws new people to check us out via itunes and the other podcast venues.
3. Controversy. We don't ever have to start a controversy. All we have to do is monitor them and keep them within the rules. The cool thing about a little controversy on a forum site is that it often does more than just get people involved in the discussion... it often spills over into articles and even the podcast.
Here are 3 ways we continued to develop good content.
1. Member articles. We've always encouraged members to submit articles that on topic to our site. But we've also gone a step further and invited the really good authors to start columns.
2. Podcast. We recently added a different media by going audio. Just like with written articles, we ask members to submit on topic audio. It's a great way to get people excited about the community and it draws new people to check us out via itunes and the other podcast venues.
3. Controversy. We don't ever have to start a controversy. All we have to do is monitor them and keep them within the rules. The cool thing about a little controversy on a forum site is that it often does more than just get people involved in the discussion... it often spills over into articles and even the podcast.
Launching of a Succesful Forum Community
I launched Youth Ministry Exchange on December 2nd, 2005 with little more than a few ideas, some dreams, some friends, and some basic commitments to myself.1. The site wasn't going to lose any money... ever.
2. It wasn't going to take over my life... ever.
3. It wasn't going to get stale or ingrown... ever.
Nearly one year later, all of those commitments remain true.
While I don't claim to be an expert, I think that my commitments are similar to other webmasters looking to manage forum communities. It's my simple hope that this lens will help those people. Keep it profitable, keep it easy to manage, keep it fresh.
Legal Issues
how to run a forum and not get your butt sued off
A common question that I hear is "What would happen if your site got sued?" Well, getting sued can and has happened to forum operators.
But don't let that scare you off. There is actually a fair amount of case law that protects us from losing our forum and our shirt to a lawsuit
But don't let that scare you off. There is actually a fair amount of case law that protects us from losing our forum and our shirt to a lawsuit
- Donato vs. Moldow
- Establishes some protections to the site owner for things that members post.
Getting Started Checklist
So, you want to start a forum community?
Trust me, forum communites come and go. The ones that succeed do so because they have done a few things right, the ones that die... well, they screw up the little things.
Here's some things that you should do before you try to launch.
Trust me, forum communites come and go. The ones that succeed do so because they have done a few things right, the ones that die... well, they screw up the little things.
Here's some things that you should do before you try to launch.
- Start with a solid core. If you don't have 30-40 people commited to the forum, it's never going to get past first base.
- Get yourself some good moderators. More important than their experience is... "Do they have a diversity of opinions/styles?" and "Can they learn to resolve conflict?"
- Narrow your niche`. Youth Ministry Exchange serves one small segment well. Even if we tried to add one more profession to the mix, say "Worship leaders" I think we'd stretch ourselves too thin. A great community has a lot in common in all things but geography. Keeping the niche` narrow forces that.
- Never use free hosting. You aren't going to look professional if you've got a slick name and some crappy looking free forum. If you want to be taken seriously, if you want to run a stable site, you have to pay a little bit.
- You need site content. One of the small things that drives content at YMX is our "member submitted articles." While new authors get some exposure, it is most helpful to the forums to have fresh insights on our profession. One depends on the other... discussion spurs content and visa versa.
- Don't do it for free. By asking people to pay a small annual fee, they will be dedicated to the site. Likewise, the money that comes in will pay your expenses and give you some money to keep the site going.
- Sell advertising but don't buy it. We've tried to buy advertising, we've tried targeted ads and search-style ads. But there is very little return on any other advertising except word of mouth. Conversely, by selling advertising to other small sites we've actually drawn attention from fans of their products.
Stuff that has worked for us (and a couple that didn't)
Starting an online business wasn't nearly as hard as I thought it would be. But it also didn't come without some mistakes. For whatever reason (I believe it's the hand of God) YMX survived my early mistakes and we benefited greatly.- Getting a partner. I swallowed my pride. I knew I could do the technical stuff, but I needed someone to help me drive the forums. Derek has been fantastic at that. This worked for us.
-Staying out of debt. We (Derek and I) determined we weren't going to risk much money in trying to make YMX work. Since we started the site with almost no start-up costs... we made money in the first 24 hours. This worked for us.
- Staying friends. There was a lot of stress between me, my business partner, and my moderator team. Making friendship a priority saved the site. This worked for us.
- Affiliates. I know a lot of people make money with affiliates... the only one that ever worked for us has been Amazon. This didn't work for us.
- Word of blog advertising. People blogging, even negatively, about our site made it grow. This worked for us.
- Moderating that spurs discussion and rarely thwarts it. Actually, a driving thing behind the development of the site was that other sites over-moderated. So, we determined early on that maintaining basic rules would be best, but being overly defensive would be a mistake. This worked for us.
- Neutrality. Within our niche` there are 3 major publishers. Rather than aligning with any of them directly, we've fought hard to stay "indie." This is working for us.
- Gadgets. Our site is based on two Open Source packages called Joomla and Simple Machines. Playing with too many gadgets was fun for me, but confusing for our users. This didn't work for us.
- The temptation for us was to copy what was working with other sites. Unfortunately for us, people are sophisticated and we looked dumb. This didn't work for us.
Forum Managers Links
The essential things that anyone starting a forum community will want to have bookmarked.
- Joomla!
- Content Management System and Web Application Framework
- Simple Machines
- SMF is a highly optimized free PHP and MySQL based piece of forum software.
- BlueHost
- BlueHost is my favorite webhost. They are affordable, stable, and have fantastic customer service.
- CSS Layouts
- Every web developer needs a link like this. Fresh and clean CSS done easy.
Links about me
- my blog
- Nothing fancy, this is just my more updated day to day blog about life, ministry, family, and my odd interests.
- my forum community
- Nothing fancy, but Youth Ministry Exchange has become a great community of friends, colleagues, and just plain cool people. YMX is the case study on which this lens is based.
A Paysite?
One of the first major decisions we had to make was about money. If we weren't going to lose any money on the site, how could we make money?
The next question for us was "Do we make people pay to use our site or do we just ask for donations?"
The short term answer is "ask for for donations." We knew that there were people willing to pay hundreds of dollars to see the creation of our community. But we felt like if we started off asking for money because it was easy now, it would be harder later.
So we set up simple membership tiers. Premium membership was $5 per year and basic was free. In the end, asking everyone to share a little bit was far better than asking a few to share a lot.
The next question for us was "Do we make people pay to use our site or do we just ask for donations?"
The short term answer is "ask for for donations." We knew that there were people willing to pay hundreds of dollars to see the creation of our community. But we felt like if we started off asking for money because it was easy now, it would be harder later.
So we set up simple membership tiers. Premium membership was $5 per year and basic was free. In the end, asking everyone to share a little bit was far better than asking a few to share a lot.
Reader Feedback
I want to hear from lens readers. Please tell me what has worked and hasn't worked for your forum community.
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Sep 29, 2010 @ 2:49 pm | delete
- thank you for the tips on how to manage a forum community, I have a forum on the Generic Viagra issues that affect men and the information of this lens is very useful for me!
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ChristianTeenWorld Sep 25, 2010 @ 1:53 am | delete
- Awesome page!
Great resource for anyone thinking of starting a forum based or community site.
I have played with the idea for some time now, but to be honest they are very hard to get off the ground with members wanting to contribute early on, at least in my experiences.
If you have a chance, check out my site dedicated to Youth Ministry .
THanks again for a great resource, Ill be bookmarking it and coming back!
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NimaB
Jan 4, 2010 @ 6:05 am | delete
- Hi, I have a forum I'm trying to figure out how to run and found your Squidoo in my search. Think it's great! I'd like more detail though. Like what is in your premium membership package that would convince people to upgrade? Thanks for the info! : )
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