Full Day Preschool Programs - Good Idea or Not?
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Are preschoolers ready for a full day of school?
Do you have a preschool-age child (or know of one) who is currently enrolled in school? If so, what are your feelings about the length of time that he or she spends there? Do you advocate part-time preschool or are you a proponent of a full day preschool program?
This is an issue I'd like to discuss since I've just learned that our school will be changing its preschool program. I have some very strong feelings on this subject and decided to create this page as a way to vent my frustration, but I'd also like to know how others feel about it. So, read on to find out why I feel the way I do about it and chime in on the debate. Do you agree with me? Think I'm making too much of it? I welcome your opinion, whatever it may be.
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The New Pre-K 4 Program
How long is too long?
In recent years, the administration of my sons' elementary school has been considering a possible restructuring of their preschool program, which basically means changing the current part-time preschool schedules in some way or instituting a full day preschool program instead. Currently, the school offers separate morning and afternoon preschool to both 3 and 4-year old children. Well, as of a few days ago, the decision has finally been made. Beginning with the 2010-2011 school year, the 3 year old program will no longer exist at our school, in favor of a brand new, all day, every day 4 year old program. Frankly, I think this idea stinks, but that's just my opinion. What do you think? (Don't worry, you'll get a chance to put in your "two cents" below.)
Part-Time Preschool vs Full Day Preschool
My husband and I first caught wind of this issue last fall when all school parents were asked to complete a survey as to their opinion about possibly restructuring the 4-yr old program. As I recall, we were given four options:

1) Leave the program as is with three half-days of school per week
2) Change the schedule from three half-days to five half-days per week
3) Offer full day preschool but no after school care
4) Offer full day preschool with the option of after school care
We chose the second option. To us, it seemed like the obvious choice. In our opinion, three half days aren't enough. Our boys had a tough time transitioning into Kindergarten for that reason. Still, we don't feel that 4-year olds belong in an all day preschool program. They seem too young for that kind of schedule, even if they will have a naptime.
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Our Two Cents
I remember explaining our position in the comment section of the survey. It went something like this:
As the parents of 2 young boys, we've always believed that preschool was an excellent platform for preparing children to enter mainstream school. They not only gain valuable socialization skills, but the kids are also introduced to classroom rules gently and taught which behaviors are acceptable in school and which are not. (Here I've substituted the teachers' actual names for privacy.) Although we think that Mrs. Smith and Mrs. Jones do a wonderful job with the little ones in their care, we don't believe it would benefit 4 year old children to be in class for an entire school day. It is simply too long a period for children so young. Their attention spans are very short and they need a more relaxed environment than even a preschool classroom affords. For this reason, it is our belief that changing the program from three half-days each week to five half-days would be the best way to transition children into the full school days of Kindergarten. Thank you very much for considering our opinion in this matter.All Day Preschool: Arguments For and Against
Now, I realize that not everyone agrees with our position; this was made crystal clear when the school board voted for the full day program. Nor is it a new concept. Other countries and some states across the U.S. have had full-time preschool programs in place for years. Chances are, many of you are already familiar with this. Maybe you've even embraced it wholeheartedly and have chosen that route for your own children. There are many working parents out there who have difficulty dealing with the part-time schedules of Pre-K. That two-to-three hour window from drop-off to pick-up can be extremely limiting, especially if you have little flexibility at work or an unforgiving employer. Many people need the stability of a full-time program. Heck, there are some people who even equate preschool with daycare.
Whatever the source of your opinion, I'm sure you have valid reasons for feeling the way you do and, to be clear, I'm not commenting on those situations one way or the other. We all have to deal with the hand we're dealt and make the best of it. I do, however, have an issue with the school board for making what seems like an ill-informed decision. At the very least, the preschool teachers should have been invited to speak about it. But they weren't. Why? They're on the front lines here. In the confines of their classrooms, they spend hours with the little ones, teaching ABCs, sharing smiles, wiping noses. And after decades of doing those things, you can be darn sure they have a sense of what young kids can tolerate and how they would adjust to a longer schedule. Their opinions should have weighed heavily in this decision. But that wasn't the case. Instead, the decision rested with a school board that consists primarily of people with older children and others who have little to do with the inner workings of the school. Beyond the parent poll, very little consideration was given to those directly affected who could better predict the ripple effect of such a verdict. It seems ludicrous, but maybe it's just us. What do you think?
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Cast your vote
Okay, I think I'm finally done ranting. Still with me? Thank you for your patience. At this point, I'd just like to say that I'm not normally an argumentative person, but this issue bugs me, obviously. Anyway, now it's time for you to weigh in if you'd like. Please feel free to add your thoughts here. I'm very curious to know what you think (even if you feel like calling me a big "whiner"). You do not need to be a member of Squidoo to comment. If you'd rather skip this altogether, you will find a separate guestbook below for any other comments you'd like to share.
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Do you agree that a full day of school is too much for a preschool age child?

I agree. Part Time Pre-K is in the best interest of the child. They are too young for a full school week.
KELLIE BROWN says:
ITS too Long and Hard on the teacher too!!
Tricia says:
I do think all day preschool is a lot for a 3-4 year old. Our program used to be half day - 8 am - 12:30. Bussing and meals provided. Now we are going all day Well, 7:45- 2:00. a nap will be included in their day, but I still think it's too long for them (IT IS NOT LIKE DAYCARE). Day care providers do not need a 2-4 year degree, they do not have to plan lesson plans, or do individualization for each child, nor do they have to observe and show growth in development. ( However I do know of some daycare providers that do go above and beyond). I think with a lot of these preschool/Head Start programs it all comes down to budget. Many programs (that rely on grant money from the government) could be forced to shut down (or lose grant money) if they do not go all day, and a program is considered all day if the children are there for at least 6 hours. How ever it is what it is and as a parent you have the choice to have your child attend a program like preschool or Head Start. I know it can be hard to send your child off for a full day of school at such an early age, but if your only other option is daycare, I would definitley choose school. Preschool/ Head Start is now pretty much what kindergarten used to be, It's fun, hands on learning why not give your child that extra boost. So I guess I am kinda going back and fourth on this issue Sorry..
Karin Reed-Gonzalez says:
My son is 4 years old and I'm planning to put him in preschool within the next month. He hasn't been in school since he was a year and a half (and I worked as a teacher at the preschool) so I don't think it's a good idea to throw him into school full time. Not only do I have concerns b/c he hasn't been in school and is used to being at home, but I think a child going to school everyday for 6-8 hours a day is way too much. Children have to prepare for kindergarten, I agree with that, but they also have a lot of years of going to school ahead of them (and having no choice), so why make them start so early if you don't have to? Children need preschool to develop those very important social skills and other things they can't learn at home (especially if they're an only child), but why make them go all day, or even everyday, when it isn't a must? The rest of their lives will be structured. Let them have fun and be at home while they can and, in the meantime, slowly ease them into the world of structure and school.
mike says:
So folks don't have the option and need to leave their children in day care all day ,,My son is 3 and has been in a Montessori school since he was 7 months old the school is out standing but to be even in a greart school allday everyday is not healthy , My plan is to work from home and have my child attend daycare a few days a week ,,there is more to life then a class room .
Mike
sandyspider says:
I think we are pushing these young children too far. Half a day is good for this age group.
I disagree. Preschool is basically daycare. If they can spend a full day in daycare, why not in Pre-K?
Rhode Islander says:
I agree when you're talking about traditional U.S. Preschools where there's one teacher for 20-40 children, and maybe an undertrained aid to help "tone-keep".
What would you say to enrolling your child into a Montessori program that has only 6 children and one certified teacher?
A place that is cozy and nurturing. A place where children arethw focus and their interests are encouraged. I have my child in a place just like that.
It's most likely going to become a new way for parents to do the best gor their child, educationally speaking.
Everyone knows that routine is paramount in raising children. It offers security and mostly fosters self confidence.
I know 5-days a week, 8:30 to 2:30 is beneficial. I see it first hand.
The days at the little preschool are scheduled, and balanced with outdoor "nature play" and inside work periods. The day is broken up with snack and nap time too.
The preschool my child attends is a unique and ideal situation, I wouldn't feel as strong if I didn't have the opportunity I have.
Rhode islander says:
Montessori believed in a 5-day program.
Children need to learn and grow. The philosophy of Montessori is to follow the child, so these children are not being pushed, their minds and bodies are prospering.
It's not the length of time children spend their days it's where they're spending their time that's the issue.
Kid's_first_yr_of_preschool says:
Not if it's only 2 or 3 days as it is here in Australia. My almost 4 yr old loves going to preschool and our "full day" is almost the same as primary school ie 9am-2:45 which is not ridiculously short like 3 hrs and not too long like 9-5pm like daycare. Seriously what do they gain in just 3 hours and how do they get to know the teachers and other kids in just 3 hrs per day. If I was a preschool teacher in your area I'd feel every day just involves setting things up and then packing it up again for a just an hour or so of the children's interaction. Also, time spent there is not just sitting in a chair in a classroom but 3 blocks of free play on pre-set up activity stations and 2 blocks of grouptime. Also, one of the days has a lady who does musictime for a bit and then a person who plays a bit of sports with them to get them having a go at cricket or tennis.
BTW: your biased options below are a joke. Not really a genuine way of trying to find what people's views are. you are basically forcing people to agree with you as the other option is not really an option but your warped view on why you think people would opt for the opposite view to you. For that, I chose to oppose you for the sake of it!
Los Angeles mom says:
I think it really depends on the child and the family. My son goes to an excellent preschool from 9 am to 5 pm three days a week and loves it. We have been doing this since he was 18 months old, he is now 2 1/2. I do not see the purpose of 2-3 hours per day preschool, by the time you drop them off, you have one hour to yourself and then turn around to pick them up? You cannot work during this time, and for us, doing something like that five days a week is not affordable unless there is income coming in during that time. It makes more sense for our family to do three full days a week. And PS, I don't like your options. I disagree, but I do not agree that preschool=daycare! If a child can handle an 8-hour preschool, then s/he is capable of a 6-8 hour pre-k.
tokyonights7 says:
Well, I actually don't disagree completely. I am kind of on the fence. As a nursery school teacher, I see a wide range of children, some of who cope better with long days than others. I believe that, if it is possible for the parents, the child should go home at one. However, if there is no other option for the parents than to leave the child until four, this is not a problem either as most children adapt quite well to the nursery school environment, and pass the time quite enjoyably with their friends.
As a side note, our school offers an 8:30-16:30 five day a week nursery school program for 2-6 year olds. Italian children do not start elementary school until they are 5 (turning 6 that year).
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A Change of Heart
I'm happy to report that our school has since reverted back to their original preschool schedule and reinstated the Pre-K 3 program! Apparently, they didn't receive the response they were expecting when conducting registration for full-time Pre-K 4. That, coupled with numerous requests for Pre-K 3, brought about the change of heart. Also, for parents who voted the other way, they are still proceeding with the full day schedule, so I guess that makes this a win-win.
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Mary
Apr 4, 2012 @ 3:49 pm | delete
- Parents know their children best and should make the decision based on what is best for the individual. Young children typically love school and I see nothing wrong with a full-day program, especially if it's 2 or 3 days/week. For working parents, 5 full-days is helpful and necessary. A true preschool is not daycare. The person who said that is either mis-informed on living somewhere without good preschool options. My children loved preschool and also loved being at home. They attended 3 full-days/week and I worked part-time. It was beneficial for the whole family and they were well prepared for Kindergarten.
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Robert
Jan 27, 2012 @ 9:15 pm | delete
- The best way to determine if a full-day school is too long for a 4 yo is for the kid to determine. If the kid gets home sick in school or fidgeting or other signs then we know it is too long. But I have yet to see too many of them.
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Nicole Teluch nicoleteluch@alumni.pitt.edu
May 14, 2011 @ 2:57 pm | delete
- This certainly is a heated issue and as a preschool teacher myself I feel it is better for children to have a structured, consistent program so as long as those areas are met and the school is staffed with loving, yet firm teachers than the length of the program shouldn't be the major factor. Most programs technically cut off after lunch anyway as the children nap, then have snack, and play in centers or outside. The main "learning" portion of the day generally happens in the morning. This being said, the poll answers are too biased. The first response should just be a clear cut yes w/o negating the program to basically just "daycare".
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Robert
Jan 27, 2012 @ 8:49 pm | delete
- I agree with Nicole, putting in a full day school for a 4 yo, is not like putting in a high school. Large portion is dedicated to learn-while-play. A small portion of time is for sitting down and learning. I do not see why this should be "too much" for a 4 year old. My son is 4 yo. I dropped him off at 8:30am schools starts at 8:45 and then at 11:15 I have to drive to pick him up again because the school finishes at 11:30. My son was just warming up then it ends. This is really not suitable for the kids as well as the parents. I think a 6hr day a week is not a problem at all. I had my older kid in such a program when he was 4 and everything worked out just great. Why would this not work for Canada?
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TheWhistler
Apr 22, 2010 @ 8:39 am | delete
- Heated topic in some places. Thanks for the lens.
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