EBT/Food Stamps

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The Great Debate: Should the Government Pay For People's Food? What Do You Think?

Wouldn't it be nice to not have to work and to still be able to eat? You don't have to have a job and pay for your groceries like everyone else! Or if you do have a job, you can use that money to buy "good stuff" like flat screen tv's or speakers, or nice phones or cars, or you can go get that new tattoo you've been wanting or pierce your eyebrows and your lip. You can get someone else to pay for your food so you don't have to worry bout that bill! Wouldn't that just be amazing?!
As you read this, you must be thinking... "This is impossible." But in reality, no. It isn't. It's very possible. As someone with grocery experience, I've seen many, many people do this. It's a government handout called EBT/Food Stamps. Please note: I am not making this lens to dis people who use food stamps. That's not my point. Some people really need them, and use them correctly. This lens is about food stamp abuse! Please participate in this discussion and state your opinion. Keep checking back to see if anyone else has countered or agreed with your view! Please keep posting comments, as long as your content is appropriate! Also, if anyone on this page uses Food Stamps (and doesn't abuse them) and have some questions about them, or would like some more information, then check out the resources at the bottom of this page. This lens is NOT written against you. It is written about Food Stamps abuse, and the Food Stamps program.

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First Of All, What Are Food Stamps?

Before we get into the great debate, let me make sure you know what Food Stamps are. They are defined in several ways:
1. The United States Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) , historically and commonly known as the Food Stamp Program, is a federal-assistance program that provides assistance to low- and no-income people living in the U.S.
2. These benefits are measured as the value of the food stamps issued to qualifying low-income individuals in order to supplement their ability to purchase food.
3. Coupons issued by the U.S. government for the purchase of food.
4. A Federal program which supplements the food-purchasing ability of low-income households through the distribution of coupons which can be used to purchase food for human consumption. Source: MN Dept. of Health and Human services.

Look this over and what does it tell you? I'll tell you what I get out of this.

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My Interpretation of "Food Stamps"

If you aren't making a lot of money (whether it's because you really can't find a job, or just don't want to work), the government will pay for your food!

Free Food!

Hey this sounds pretty nice right? You can sit around and do whatever you want all day, then just wait for your EBT card to get refilled and go raid the grocery store and get what you want!
Ok. Maybe it isn't all that easy. But pretty close. The Eligibility for Food Stamps isn't extremely strict, but you do have to be eligible. Not jut anyone can get them. However, once you qualify, you can be rest assured that you now have someone else paying for your food. How sweet is that? You can use the money you do have for other, better things that you want to buy!

Food Stamps Can Be A Great Thing!

Sure... the idea that people who really can't afford food will now be able to get it is nice idea! It really is. But.... the government cannot solve everyone's problems. The Food Stamps program has helped many people who truly need it, I am sure.
This lens is not trying to disrespect those whom it has helped. This lens is about Food Stamp abuse. When people try to make the government pay for their food, when they don't really need the government's money, or when they just want someone else to pay for it so they can afford other things that they want.

Food Stamps or Not?

Is it really a good idea for the government to offer to pay for people's food? Yes or no? Why? How do you feel about it?

Should the government offer a Food Stamps Program?

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Yes

KrissiB says:

I love the idea of social programs and they sound great on paper. I also know that there are a lot of families who legitimately need them. But if the government is going to offer these programs they really need to have more safeguards from people who abuse the system.

I am not a wealthy person, I am a cook and freelance web developer and my boyfriend is a bar tender. We work very hard, and we buy our own food because we are responsible and know how to budget our money. And it is irritating to see people wasting tax payer money when they could simply be more responsible and provide for themselves.

Our current system needs reform, but I am for social programs that help those in need to get on their feet- no one should ever be on food stamps forever. It is an aid that should be used while you get on your feet.

Stephen says:

Yes. However, we need a reformation on the restrictions and rules to attain food stamps. I see people who are complete losers, whom without others help, would weed themselves out of existence and I would not feel a thing for them. It is not fair that some people work hard and others abuse the system thinking that the government (which doesn't produce anything and thus doesn't make money) is going to take care of them. No, you fuckin' idiot. You are taking money out of your neighbors pocket. There are some folks who do need it, though. I still believe "If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em." I shouldn't be obligated to help someone's mistakes, I should have the option to help someone out. There is no incentive for people to get off of assistance, so why would they ever try. End the war and I think people would be much happier to provide a helping hand.

Bill says:

Yes, because in Canada, the government gives MONEY, not food stamps. I've seen lots of people spend their welfare money on cigarettes so they are unable to buy food, so they go to the food bank...

sarah says:

Yes they should they pay for other countries to eat but but not there very own this is wild. I feel comfortable knowing that if I lose my job my kids can eat. "Welfare" including food stamps is less than FIVE PERCENT of our Federal budget. You could COMPLETELY get rid of them and it wouldn't make a dent. Source(s): By comparison, the military, and social security/medicare are SIXTY PERCENT OF OUR BUDGET!!!! The idea we are going to lower our deficit without addressing these things, or funding them, is blatantly idiotic - I mean they say it on Fox News

Gen says:

yes, but it should only be in a certain store. The government should have stores all over and they are the only place for those on Food stamps should shop. They can only receive basic meat,veggies and fruits. If you want hot pockets and cookies spend your own damn money!

No

me says:

I have 4 kids and am divorced. I'm suicidally depressed and fight the urge to die every minute. We get 44 dollars a month in food stamps and so it really mostly helps pay for my kids lunch at school. I'm very grateful for it. We don't have new phones, cars or tvs. We buy used clothes and can't really even afford gas. I guess you all can judge me. Maybe someday I'll be better able to care for my self.

singlemother says:

I used to get upset when seeing people get free food while I worked 45 hours a week and still struggled from time to time paying my rent and buying food for me and my son. Just recently I lost my job and found out I was pregnant. I seriosly thought I had nothing. The worse was not knowing what I was gonna do to provide for my kids. I found out that trying a get a job while pregnant is impossible! I found myself stuck. A friend had told me to go on welfare. It was my only choice and I'm very grateful. Me and my son are able to eat and pay rent. I even got free medical something I was unaware of. I used to pay 175 a week for medical insurance! Now I have it for free. If this program didn't exsist I would have nothing right now.

Jon says:

I currently work in a gas station and I just had a women come in and ask if we carry ebt. I told her no than she proceeded to buy $45 dollars in lottery tickets. You have enough money for that but you can't buy your own food, really?

Joshua Legarretta says:

i wish i had an iPhone and a Chrysler 300 like the lady the in front of me paying with food stamps at the grocery store.

Linda says:

In the first place, the government doesn't pay for food, taxpayers do. I have no problem with f/s helping people who really need it- like the elderly or people who have lost their jobs d/t this economy- because they have already paid for it by paying taxes for years, or people that actually work. I do, however, have a major problem with people who have never worked and get all of these benefits from the government, people who can work but will not. Why should responsible people, who are contributing members of society "support" these people as well as our own families. I have seen f/s pay for steaks, seafood, huge hams, etc. While hardworking people can barely afford hamburgers + hotdogs. Everyone has a sad story, I have supported 2 kids by myself, have never received any government "benefits", put braces on both my kids and put my daughter thru spinal fusion surgery by working a blue collar job without ANY help, I worked a blue collar job because I didn't go to college (my choice) but I paid for everything and never asked for any help, why should I, I put myself in that position, why should anyone else pay for it. F/s should be a temporary benefit not a life-long one. I know people who have been on f/s for 20+ years and it makes me sick. Free healthcare, food, a place to live and check each month without having to do anything. I agree with the post that if someone receives f/s they should have to do so many hours of community service as a requirement for f/s or have a job or be enrolled in a secondary school/college., it should not be a free ride- no wonder, for many, they have made it a life-long benefit, why shouldn't they-IT IS FREE. In the meantime, hard-working people cannot get ahead; WHY? because we already are supporting people long before we have own families to support. IDK, maybe we are the dumb ones, for most of us social security will be broke by the time we are old enough to collect it, even though we have paid into it for 50+ years, again we end up on the short end of the stick, maybe we should all quit and live off welfare-it's beginning to sound like a better retirement plan.

 
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What Do I Have Against Food Stamps?

As you read this, you may be wondering.... "Whoa. What on earth do you have against Food Stamps?" It's just that from my experience, I have seen too much Food Stamps abuse. From working at a grocery store, I saw people use EBT/Food Stamp cards all the time. When I first started working, I didn't understand what they were. But then I learned! I learned that it was the way the government paid for people's food. Since I was working and paying taxes, I realized that, in a way, I was the one paying for some of stuff! Since I realized I was paying for some of it, I thought i'd stop and look at what people bought with the money my government took from my check every week.

I noticed some people would buy staple foods, such as: eggs, milk, meat, vegetables... stuff like that. Real food! This didn't bother me so much, because I realized that this food really was going to help somebody. It really was going to feed them and help take care of them! That's a great idea!

Then, I saw people come through my line who would buy all kinds of expensive junk food. Name brand foods. Chips, donuts, fruit snacks, microwave popcorn, all kinds of stuff like that. Then they'd pull out their little EBT card, and I would stand there and think "Wait... is our government really helping you?" Obviously, I had to keep these comments to myself.

A final area I saw Food Stamps abuse is when people would bring up a cartful of groceries, and I would ring that up. Then, they would pull out their EBT card and use that to pay for their "groceries". THEN, they would buy beer and/or cigarettes and pay cash for them! This always confused me. If someone can afford beer and cigarettes, can't they afford their own groceries? Oh wait... maybe if they had to pay for their own groceries, then they couldn't afford their beer and cigarettes. Hmm. Wouldn't that just be a problem?

No worries! They never had to tell the government that they were buying beer and tobacco products! They just had to put out their hands and tell the the government they wanted some help paying for their groceries.

What Do You Think is the future of Food Stamps?

Do you think that Food Stamps will become extinct? Or do you think the government will start to give out more?

brittzy predicts:

I think the government will start to give out more and more Food Stamps, and people will become less and less concerned about how they are using them. Eventually, the government will be buying most people's groceries, and taking that amount out of everyone's taxes. Sounds a little communistic to me.

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Pumpkin predicts:

^^ Britty I was thinking the same thing. My mother grew up in the slums of Honduras, living in the street under cardboard boxes. A lot of nights she went to sleep hungry... malnutrition. She has always said, "I would have preferred to live in a communist country... at least I would not have gone to sleep hungry so many nights."

Kyle predicts:

One last thing, I DO survive on junk foods, ramen noodles, chicken, and the very rare steak. If food stamps were to prevent such purchases, they would be useless to me, as many of the healthy foods, I can't eat. Be it a gag reflex, stomach issues, or the food I was brought up on as a child.

Kyle predicts:

I disagree with this article. While I don't receive food stamps, if I did, I would not be buying staple foods, as you say, as most of those items I don't like or my stomach can't handle eating (very weak stomach, very picky eater)
As to the beer and cigarettes, perhaps instead of putting this on food stamps, a much larger effort should be made to curb the addictive use of these substances? There are plenty of people out there that will buy beer or cigarettes and go without eating (in turn, clogging hospitals and taxpayers up)

HERPDERP predicts:

I mean, you're helping people all around the country/state afford food. Although some do abuse it, some people really need the help. Would you really say "f them give me my money, let them starve" for just a few bucks back?

They don't get as much as you think, my grandmother gets 200$ a MONTH and she is unable to work at all.

Christopherzies predicts:

Hopefully the governemnt will eventually realize they can't afford handing out so much money in food stamps and will make it much harder to qualify for thousands of dollars a month.

 
 

You Don't Need Food Stamps When....

In my opinion, you do not need someone else paying for your food when:

1. You can afford to buy beer.
2. You can afford to buy cigarettes.
3. You do not know how to spend money wisely.
4. You think you can only survive on expensive, name brand, junk foods.

Anything Else About Food Stamps?

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  • Ronin47xx Apr 15, 2012 @ 3:35 am | delete
    So what, you don't need food stamps, that's your prerogative. You'll find peace in yourself when you realize life isn't fair. Yea some people have the government help them out. Some people are born into responsible families who are well off and don't ever know what it means to be starving and broke. That's just the fate they were given. I see no difference in whether a family gives you the conditions for you to be stable on your own, or if the government gives it to you. If you care you'll work your butt off to get off either one. Some don't, but hey, life isn't fair.
  • no one Apr 12, 2012 @ 3:08 pm | delete
    im married and have 3 children, my husband works and i can not do to ra. we use snap. i get so hurt when people give us this look like they are better than us, or when what you buy is judged. we pay taxes, they are taken out of my husbands check every week.
  • Nicole Magincalda Apr 11, 2012 @ 7:13 am | delete
    I would like to know why i am having so much trouble with the welfare department?. I just recently had to do their quarterly report which i filled out and mailed back no later then 3 days after it had been received by me. Then i had a over the phone interview which i was present for. While talking with the county worker they informed me that out of all my papers that i know were all accounted for, they did not receive my Q-R7. They asked if they could send me a new packet including what i was missing and everything i already filled out. I said okay even though i was mad that i had to fill all that out again instead of just the Q-R7 that was misteriously missing when i know i sent it off and they should have known because i called their offices to check each paper before it was all mailed off. Okay so i sent all that stuff off again for the second time and called almost daily to make sure they recevied it. Finely they had confirmed it had been received however my worker had not processed my paper work, so were dose that leave me ''lets see'' i call the otimated system and it says were sorry your food-stamps have been discontinued or terminated. Now this is what i don't understand!. How are they gonna do that without sending me a notice since by law they are required to send a notice informing the person so they can take action and provent cancelation of benifts?. Also the federal goverment requires the Department of health and human services to process each and every claim with in 30 days of receving papers, my calim has not been processed which is a violation of my rights i do not want to take this to court all i want is what i am due my food stamps that i wentt out of my way to do the things needed to keep them. Somebody help please?
  • Chairatiee Apr 9, 2012 @ 5:11 pm | delete
    I get food stamps, i'm ashamed of it but i don't really have a choice since i was laid off. However, my husband has a minimum wage job but because he is a legal immigrant they are counting my household as a one person household but they are counting his income with my unemployment. So, i get $16 a month in food stamps now, before he was employed i received $200 a month.

    Because i actually do pay my bills, my husband and i are both becoming malnourished as my entire monthly food budget is $166. That is literally all i can spend on it. Since my husband is the one working he needs to eat enough to make sure he doesn't get sick from not eating, as a result I've taken to drinking a ton of water throughout the day in lieu of eating. He assumes im eating during the day and i let him because it would stress him out more if he knew the truth and neither of us would get food if i ate during the day.

    I don't have internet or even cable at home. I'm currently at a library looking for a job in online classifieds or some other way to help my little family get by. I had a very nice job before the company went under, i have very nice clothes, a nice car that is almost paid for but no house. I bought insurance on the car upfront for a year when i was working, the car is only used to take my husband to work and when i was getting $200 a month in benefits to go buy groceries, (usually a month supply at a time,). For everything else we have to go anywhere for, we walk or on very rare occasions take public transport. I had big screen tvs, top of the line computers and used to buy organic fresh food and junk food as snacks. i was using my ebt card at a store while wearing nice clothes and took my groceries to a nice car. Believe it or not there are circumstances where someone who is on EBT actually does have nice things or appears to be well off in appearance.

    Granted, i'm also responsible. A month after i lost my job i had shut off cable & internet, taped most of the light switches in the house so that no one could turn those lights on, unplugged the tvs and all computers except the laptop, and unplugged everything except the refrigerator. If i need an appliance i plug it in long enough to use it then unplug it again. I had a lot of oil lamps and emergency candles which i used, (and still use,) to light the house instead of turning on lights.

    After 3 months of not being able to get another job i sold the tvs and all computers but the laptop. I've even sold the dvd players and stereos with all the hd surround sound systems. I worked as a professional and unemployment has made it clear i have to find another job within my field. I can't go to an interview in the type of environment i'm told i HAVE to apply for without looking nice. I have my own nail kit, I've done my own nails for years, i have about enough supplies to continue doing my nails to last me another year, all of which was paid for before i lost my job.

    Our quality of life went down to practically nothing after i lost my job so, when i was getting $200 a month in benefits i would occasionally buy microwaveable popcorn and a soda, it was mixed in with everything else i bought. It didn't do much but it was a slight moral booster that even though we've fallen far we can still rent a movie once a month and have popcorn and a soda with it. And before anyone asks that movie is played on the laptop as the tvs and dvd players are gone. One night of cuddling up together, watching a movie,eating popcorn and drinking soda can let us pretend for just one night, that we arent as bad off as we are is a tiny light in a sea of darkness.

    In short - it IS possible for someone who looks nice, is wearing nice clothes, who has a nice car and who has their nails done to appear in a grocery line and buy popcorn and a soda with food stamps and NOT be an abuser of the system. I'm very ashamed i need help at all, but to be lumped in with the "abusers" of the system just because i LOOK as if i'm well off and i'm buying a soda and popcorn is judgmental and discriminatory.

    On a side note, to the person that was "raised on junk food and wouldn't get whole foods if that's all you could get" you're full of it. When i had a job, we had a lot of healthy food, but we still had junk food as snacks. When i lost my job, we stopped getting junk food all together, with the exception of once a month getting popcorn and soda. I was raised on junk food. I made the choice myself to eat healthier as i would like to live to at least 60. I was also a very picky eater. I hate green beans with a burning passion, always have, they make me gag. When i brought some home from the food bank, i cooked them and ate them without thinking twice about it with minimal gagging. If you're hungry, you become a non-picky eater very fast or you starve. To pretend that you cant live without junk food and that ebt is worthless if you cant get junk food....that is just not feasible.
  • KaitLynnHt Apr 4, 2012 @ 11:44 am | delete
    I am on food stamps and I get irate when I see one-sided comments on the internet bashing people who use them. I work long, hard hours 7 days a week and am on call 24 hours a day in case of emergency. I get paid $0 per hour. What is my occupation? I am a stay at home mother to a very very sick child (we're still fighting with diability, so we don't even get social security yet). He is on medicaid and as his mother I am too. I'm not exactly healthy either so it really helps. We are on food stamps, just the two of us. We live with my mother, without which we'd not have a roof over our heads, and my son will not have clothes. I wear nice clothes, because I know what to look for at the thrift store or Goodwill (still most of my clothes are the same I've been wearing since that last pre-school shopping trip with my Mom right before I went away to college). I have a computer, one I bought 10 years ago when I needed one for school and is still running (barely). Mom was buying the food for all of us until recently. It just got to be too much for her, she was going through a foreclosure and it got to the point where we couldn't find a place to live she could afford and continue to buy food for 3 (one being a rapidly growing pre-teen). The wild thing is, they way she works, she's barely home to eat anyway. She's not home at all for breakfast or lunch, and she usually gets home after dinner time, and she often has church group or meetings or something after work, so it's just my son and I really eating the groceries. Mom will usually just snag some leftovers or pour a bowl of cereal for dinner. So I saw about getting food stamps. I get food stamps for a "family unit" of two. I do buy soda or snacks, but I search for sales. I spend a day per week with all the flyers open in front of me making an excel sheet of deals and sales, coupons scattered about, making my shopping list. Most months my shopping falls under budget due to frugality, so I can buy snacks and soda and maybe even some of the lunches my mom eats or the cereal she likes. I don't even have a car. When my mother gets home for work, I take her (barely running) car and do the grocery shopping so that is one less thing she has to do during her day. I work for my benefits. I cook, my son has a homemade meal at least once a day (or leftovers of same). I clean, my mom rarely comes home to housework needing done. I teach, my son cannot go to school so he is homeschooled and so I teach and help as much as I can with his school work. At anytime, even in the middle of the night, he could have a nosebleed, a muscle cramp or need to be rushed to the hospital for a fever. So I have a job, even if it's not a traditional 9-5, and my pay is $367 per month for food and the support my mother provides.
  • Teresa Bennett Apr 2, 2012 @ 3:30 am | delete
    I think they are wonderful to those that can get them, ut for myself since I made a mistiake years ago and got a traficking charge, All thou I paid for it I thought by serving 3 years in prison . I cant get them but a SEX OFFENDER, CHILD PREDITORS AND EVEN SERIAL KILLERS CAN. THIS IS THE WONDERFUL GOVERENT OF OURS. IS DISCRIMINATION FAIR? I DONT THINK SO AND THERE IS NO 0THER WAY FOR ME TO LOOK AT IT !
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