An Apache Elder
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GreyHawk-An Apache Elder
I remember sitting in many drumming circles hearing everyone talk about him. They made him out to be a super hero, wise elder someone who knew exactly what to say and how to say it when it came to traditions of the Native American People. He was known by everyone. One of my closest friends was a writer and she was close friends with GreyHawk.
During lunch one day, she suggested that I take a day trip with her to visit him in Dahlonega, Georgia. Without thinking twice, I automatically jumped at the chance to go with her and better yet spend the afternoon with him. It was like a dream come true, I was finally going to meet this hero that everyone spoke so highly of.
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Ghost Dance-Robbie Robertson
Meeting GreyHawk
I believe Linda became friends with GreyHawk after writing an article about him. I do know that she needed to get permission from him to bring me with her to visit him and he said okay. A tradition of meeting an Elder says that "when you go to visit one, you are always suppose to bring a small offering or gift. Since I had my own business even then, I took some tobacco and white sage.When we walked into GreyHawk's home, there he was an Apache Elder who sat in a chair with long white hair, smiling just as pretty as you please. It reminded me of one of the Elders from a movie called "Dances with Wolves" when they were all gathered in a Council meeting. The Elders in the movie sat there with this expression on their face, long white braids framing their faces. It was just one of those perfect moments in time. I cannot even begin to explain what this day meant to me. My friend introduced me to him and the first thing I did was hand him the tobacco and white sage and looked him directly in his Ice Blue eyes. He gracefully accepted the gift and in returned gave me a very nice smile.
We talked about so many things that day-everything being Spiritual related with many stories from his childhood. One story he told me was how his father took him out to a field and left him alone all. GreyHawk explained to me that his father was teaching him how to listen beyond words and to see beyond sight. His Story Telling which I listened to intensely, taught me so much about Spirituality on a different level. Somehow, not really knowing me he was able to confirm so many things that I already knew, but did not know how I knew them.
Native American Traditions
Native American Quote
"You must teach your children that the ground beneath their feet is the ashes of your grandfathers.
So that they will respect the land, tell your children that the earth is rich with the lives of our kin.
Teach your children what we have taught our children, that the earth is our mother.
Whatever befalls the earth befalls the sons of the earth.
If men spit upon the ground, they spit upon themselves. "
~ Unknown ~
Sacred Path Cards
GreyHawk introduced me to the "Sacred Path Cards" that afternoon. They were the cards that he read and was very drawn too. They are Native American tarot cards which you can read about on my lens: Native American TarotAfter sitting there for a long time talking, we all decided to go and get some lunch at a local restaurant. GreyHawk sat in front of me and with his ice blue eyes said "WhiteOak, do you know of the Sioux?" I know my mouth must have hit the table, or I looked really dumb founded. I answered him by saying, what do you mean? But somehow our conversation stopped there and he never answered me. After lunch while we were leaving he suggested that I attend the next sweat lodge, I told him I might, but I never did. The timing never seemed to be right for me.
For me; spending that day with GreyHawk meant the world to me. If you have ever sat down with an Elder, they are very known to teach you things by answering a question with a question. I was so honored that GreyHawk shared some of his stories with me, it was through those stories that taught me a new direction on my path that will forever be with me. It wasn't too long after this visit; GreyHawk began to prepare for his own crossing and shortly afterwards, he died.
Sacred Path Cards and Animal Medicine Cards
The Experience making him my Hero
I am a firm believer that Everyone who enters our path, enters for a reason. The meeting with GreyHawk marked a very important stone on my path. What I am about to share is the truth and not meant to show any disrespect once so ever.Another friend of mine introduced me to another Elder who was a well known "Story Teller". (To this day I still have one of his tapes.) I was sitting with his wife talking about things nothing really important, just things. She started explained that they soon needed to get ready to attend a ceremony. (I would rather not mention the ceremony) The interest of the ceremony grabbed a hold of me and my interested peaked! Out of the blue it seemed, she asked me which tribal clan I belonged too. I explained that I did not belong to one because I was in the process of finding my linkage so I could have proof of my heritage to the Cherokee. I was not doing any of this research to apply for my "Card" so I could collect money from the government. I wanted the proof because that is the only way you can be taught traditional ceremony.
I attended meetings every month with a Tribal Committee in Dahlonega and through this committee there were "People" who helped you to find your Native American Ancestors. The night that they had my Associate Card ready, I had missed the meeting and was never given the opportunity to have it offered to me again. If I am not mistaken (because this has be years ago) after that night, they stopped giving out these Associate Member cards.
In my research, I had gotten as far back as my Grandmother's Father and the rolls I was researching stopped at this man's name. From what I have been told, back in the day the truth was never completely told and many things were kept hidden. There was so much discrimination; GreyHawk told me many Native Americans tried to hide their heritage by changing their names and so on. From my understanding being a woman made it even worst. Many women were left off of the roles completely, never mentioned at all. So my Great Grandmothers name did not appear on the last roll I could find. Long story short, I hit a brick wall and have not found the courage to continue my research as of yet.
Because I did not have my proof and/or "Card" showing my heritage, the "Story Tellers" wife said I could not attend the ceremony and if I wanted to see any of it, I could stand across the street with the others. As ugly as it sounds, I am afraid my ego felt it was slapped in the face. I cannot describe the feeling of what her words did to me. So needless to say I did not watch from across the street.
GreyHawk made me feel it was okay to share his stories with me regardless if I was a "Card" carrying Native American or not. It did not matter to him that I did not have proof of my heritage. He taught me so many things the day I spent with him that I cannot even begin to describe how sacred it was for me. So in my eyes, the respect this Elder gave to me makes him a Hero in my eyes!
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DavidDove Aug 27, 2011 @ 3:07 am | delete
- Meanings clarified, thank you
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purplelady Nov 24, 2010 @ 1:30 pm | delete
- What a lovely tale. It must have been a real treat to spend a day with GreyHawk.
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WhiteOak50
Nov 25, 2010 @ 8:03 am | delete
- It was fantastic, a day I will always honor.
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jptanabe
Feb 3, 2010 @ 7:54 am | delete
- Fascinating! Lovely tribute to GreyHawk. Just wondering why he asked if you knew the Sioux? If he's Apache and your heritage is Cherokee - interesting. The Ghost Dance was performed by Sioux wasn't it?
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WhiteOak50
Feb 3, 2010 @ 6:34 pm | delete
- I don't know jptanabe, why he asked me, but to this day I can still hear him asking me. Thank you for commenting.
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ElleDeeEsse Jan 30, 2010 @ 3:08 pm | delete
- This is a lovely narrative and I enjoyed taking the time to read it
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WhiteOak50
Jan 31, 2010 @ 6:52 pm | delete
- Thank you for stopping by ElleDeeEsse
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sandyspider
Jan 27, 2010 @ 10:09 pm | delete
- I believe there is a lot to say about this. I often find some kind of connection with people I meet.
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JaguarJulie
Jan 26, 2010 @ 4:49 pm | delete
- Yes my dear! What you said, "I am a firm believer that Everyone who enters our path, enters for a reason." I surely agree and think you have entered my path most assuredly for a very important reason. And, I thank you for being there ... in my path! ;)
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WhiteOak50
Jan 26, 2010 @ 7:44 pm | delete
- Julie, you just touch my heart!! Thank you for your lovely comment.
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annmackiemiller
Jan 26, 2010 @ 12:46 pm | delete
- Whiteoak - this is a wonderful lens that speaks to my heart and soul. thank you so much. 5*
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WhiteOak50
Jan 26, 2010 @ 6:42 pm | delete
- Thank you so much for your comment ann.
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Stazjia
Jan 26, 2010 @ 8:49 am | delete
- What a wonderfully wise man GreyHawk must have been and I'm certain you felt privileged to meet him. It's so good that he helped you with your issues of self esteem and that he obviously must have accepted your entitlement to hear his stories. Lovely lens.
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WhiteOak50
Jan 26, 2010 @ 6:27 pm | delete
- Thank you Stazjia. It was indeed a great honor to spend that time with him. I forgot to mention and guess I will add it to the lens, but that same day he explained to me how to make an Apache dreamcatcher.
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BevsPaper
Jan 26, 2010 @ 8:38 am | delete
- Oh you know I love this WhiteOak! Meeting an Elder such as GreyHawk is truly wonderful. He sounds so kind, so wise. Wonder if his question about the Sioux was somehow related to your lineage? I'm sure he meant for you to know the Sioux for a reason.
I use the Sacred Path and Medicine Cards too. They have really brought understanding to my own walk.
~Mitakuye Oyasin~
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WhiteOak50
Jan 26, 2010 @ 6:24 pm | delete
- You know Bev, to this very day I still can see GreyHawk leaning over the table asking me that question. You are right, I think he meant for me to know the Sioux for a reason but I have not been lead by "Spirit" to research it, as of yet. This has been so many years ago.
I love my Sacred Path Cards. When I really need an answer all I do is ask the cards and they make me think.
~Mitakuya Oyasin~
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