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From the lens How Google's Panda Update Impacted Squidoo and Hubpages Traffic.

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  • INeedGlasses Jun 1, 2012 @ 11:59 am | delete
    "Google Isn't the Only Game in Town" - amen to that!
  • gonzalezdenise May 18, 2012 @ 11:34 am | delete
    Such a wonderful resourceful lens. Thanks
  • FreshStart7 May 17, 2012 @ 5:45 pm | delete
    Tons of useful information - a lot to digest..I'll take it one bite at a time:)
  • notimetoulouse May 17, 2012 @ 3:24 am | delete
    A real tour de force of SEO knowledge - if only we could still lenslink! Thanks for putting this really helpful lens together - it should be a 'must visit' for all lensmasters who want to really succeed out there in the new wild west that is affiliate marketing.
  • mcs06278 May 7, 2012 @ 12:33 am | delete
    Great article with lots of useful information. Thanks.
  • BiminiBahamas May 3, 2012 @ 10:46 am | delete
    Great stuff! A lot of information to digest for the newbie, but I am diligent!
  • aalite Apr 29, 2012 @ 4:43 pm | delete
    Really useful lens, I have been trying to teach myself about SEO and panda for the last 2 monts, and it was gratifying that I found a lot of information and analysis I didn't know about. A lot of articles just regurgitate the same facts, you've read one, you've read them all, this one was really thorough and specific analysis. Will now go to my hubs and make sure there is a lot of text above the fold. I might be too fond of pretty pictures!
  • vegetablegardenhub Apr 29, 2012 @ 12:03 pm | delete
    Wow. Fantastic lens. I heard bits and pieces about Panda, but didn't really know what it was all about until I read your lens. You got so much information here, and present it extremely well. And I couldn't agree more on what you say about Hubpages' navigation, I had the exact same experience when I went there for the first time. Wish I could give this lens more than a single "Squidlike"! :)
  • amoonny Apr 12, 2012 @ 2:49 pm | delete
    Good article. Thank you.
    I wasn't into Squidoo before, but doing some searches in Google it doesn't show too many Lenses if any, on some of the topics I was looking for information. I hope this changes in the future.
  • bushaex Apr 8, 2012 @ 4:41 pm | delete
    I have been reviewing the possibilities for Hubpages and your treatise was helpful in several ways. I enjoyed it thoroughly.
  • mizrae Apr 8, 2012 @ 3:00 pm | delete
    Your very thorough analysis of Panda's new search parameters explain a lot with respect to "duplicate content". Thanks. In fact, this whole lens gives me lessons in researching then writing any article.
  • ruletheworld Mar 31, 2012 @ 3:46 pm | delete
    Very thorough analysis of the whole situation. People tend to be emotional to either extreme when it comes to changes like this. I like your lens for being objective and with statistics so we know what's actually going on and now what everyone says is happening without any basis in truth.
  • web creative design Mar 30, 2012 @ 2:17 am | delete
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  • addpeople Mar 15, 2012 @ 7:29 am | delete
    Interesting stats!
  • lestroischenes Mar 14, 2012 @ 5:25 am | delete
    What a fabulous, helpful and erudite lens. Many thanks for all this information, (from one who seems to be hit hard by pandas, although I think my hubs are quite good - well, I would say that, wouldn't I?).
  • genuineaid Mar 12, 2012 @ 11:42 pm | delete
    So far I like Squidoo better :/
  • TimArends Mar 4, 2012 @ 10:19 pm | delete
    Great lens! Pandas may look cute and cuddly but they can be vicious little buggers!
  • BenJacklin Feb 27, 2012 @ 7:01 pm | delete
    great insight and very helpful, thanks!
  • mistyblue75605 Feb 24, 2012 @ 10:27 am | delete
    Very interesting reading! Thanks for all of the hard work on this intense lens of information! :0) (like)
  • SuperBrainwave Feb 13, 2012 @ 9:59 pm | delete
    Although it is almost a year since panda first hit, it was interesting to read this very thorough and intelligent analysis. Some real food for thought. Thanks for posting.
  • kaposzta Feb 9, 2012 @ 9:43 am | delete
    Excellent lens with great information!
  • desertdarlene Feb 5, 2012 @ 10:52 pm | delete
    I also work for Examiner and they really had a hard time with what Google was doing with their changes. They've been working hard at updating their site so that they don't fall into that content farm designation.
  • bloomingrose Jan 31, 2012 @ 7:08 pm | delete
    Wonderful, I read this with great interest as I try to make my way around Squidoo and blogging. If you haven't already done, writing about non-Google traffic would be great.
  • webkangaroo Jan 27, 2012 @ 2:12 pm | delete
    tremendous article, thanks!
  • Miriam2008 Jan 14, 2012 @ 6:47 pm | delete
    Great information. Thanks for sharing
  • Donna Jan 12, 2012 @ 6:47 pm | delete
    If your article is any indication of what kind of quality is on Squidoo, google got it right. Thanks for this thorough insider's perspective!
  • girlfriendfactory Jan 4, 2012 @ 6:53 pm | delete
    The animalization of the computer world is so fascinating to me and I found this recent article in The Guardian to be as well: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/dec/05/google-panda-update-endangered-species

    Also, Squidoo's front door and topics pages have been updated again. Great info here, as usual! :)
  • flicker Dec 29, 2011 @ 10:02 pm | delete
    Thanks for doing this research and sharing it with us. Very helpful.
  • AshAffiches Dec 27, 2011 @ 3:06 am | delete
    good read
  • badmintondoubles Nov 24, 2011 @ 7:58 am | delete
    Excellent article, detailed with plenty of great analysis - will take me some time to digest!
  • tembrooke Nov 19, 2011 @ 7:25 pm | delete
    Thanks for taking on this issue! I too would appreciate seeing updated info in this article... my lenses dropped a lot in the summer, but I was preparing a cross-country move so I wasn't updating my lenses. I'm still trying to decide if the Google changes have affected me or not.
  • seo_optimisation Nov 18, 2011 @ 5:45 pm | delete
    Wow, that's a serious amount of information. Thanks for meticulously compiling it and sharing it with us.
  • GrammaLinda Nov 16, 2011 @ 3:09 am | delete
    Thank you for this analysis. Good information!
  • lisadh Nov 7, 2011 @ 2:08 pm | delete
    As always, your information is compelling and your commentary is insightful. And humorous.:-) I laughed out loud when you compared HubPages to your sock drawer!

    Are you going to do a page like this on the Google Fresh update? Just when we're recovering from Panda, they launch Fresh. Will be interesting to see things shake up again.
  • Greekgeek Nov 7, 2011 @ 4:58 pm | delete
    Actually, I need to rewrite this article or update it -- it's hard to figure out how to deal with changing news on a lens which is not a blog -- because Hubpages has now fixed several of the problems I mentioned above, and its traffic has rebounded to be comparable to Squidoo's. Also, Hubpages Hubs are now getting indexed faster than Squidoo's!

    Plus, I don't have enough info on Fresh.

    Suggestion: check out searchengineland.com if you do not. They have a lot of great up-to-date info that I haven't yet absorbed, and in particular, Danny Sullivan knows whereof he speaks. :)

    (Thank you for commenting me and reminding me !)
  • irishlass Nov 1, 2011 @ 3:06 pm | delete
    I've written for both and far prefer squidoo. Both promote themselves as a place to make money writing, but really - most of the time it's nickels and dimes, not fives and tens and certainly not hundreds of dollars of monthly income. A very small percentage on either site make $5,000 a year or more.

    But Hubpages offers making money as it's only reason for participation. They won't even let you post a link to your blog in an author's bio section. Not a spammy link, an ordinary, here's my blog link.

    I also like the colors and layout on squidoo better - they're fun.
  • Michey Oct 26, 2011 @ 10:07 am | delete
    We must understand Google Panda, no other choice, or we will lose a lot of traffic.
    this is a very useful lens, thanks
    Regards
    Michey
  • whoisbid Oct 26, 2011 @ 9:19 am | delete
    I am not surprised that Hubpages is doing so badly. The moderators seem to be immature and ignorant to people in the world. If you write something worth that does not appeal to their personal preferences you can have it deleted or compromised. Hubpages has become like a police state and probably one of the most suffocating places on the internet to write
  • aesta1 Oct 16, 2011 @ 9:39 am | delete
    Have to make sure now that we give value to prospective users of our lenses. I only write here in squidoo not in hubpages but I get the point. Thanks for making Panda less of a mystery.
  • DonD Oct 12, 2011 @ 12:46 pm | delete
    Not only squidoo and hubpages were affected by google's panda upate but most of the sites in the internet. But there some who survive and were able to boost their traffic rather. Great info. Thank you
  • JodiFromFlorida Oct 10, 2011 @ 12:48 pm | delete
    Thank you for the great information.
  • anasshad Oct 10, 2011 @ 2:40 am | delete
    Wow man! you really got it all in this beautiful lens. I love hubpages but after I saw some people complaining about the effect of google Panda, I was concerned but you answered all my questions. Thanks a lot.
  • Lija_Rasa Sep 24, 2011 @ 7:29 pm | delete
    That was a great read, thanks!
  • Allergywarnings Sep 11, 2011 @ 6:40 am | delete
    Thanks for this, found it really well written & gives some great insight on these massive changes.
  • JoeSteinbeck Sep 6, 2011 @ 11:44 am | delete
    Timely information on the algo update - nice.
  • whiteskyline Sep 6, 2011 @ 7:04 am | delete
    Aah OK, I am new to all of this information, and this gives me a better idea of this Google Panda thing I hear about from time to time. A bit over my head for now, but that's OK :)
  • studyaids Sep 4, 2011 @ 2:55 am | delete
    Very usefless lens. Thanks
  • san119018 Sep 1, 2011 @ 5:11 am | delete
    thanks for the nice information, liked your lens
  • carojay Aug 30, 2011 @ 12:09 pm | delete
    A fantastic summing-up of the update and what it means for Hubpages and Squidoo, with some great tips on optimizing websites, to boot. If all the Squidoo content were as good as this post, they'd be sitting on roses.
  • Greekgeek Aug 30, 2011 @ 12:57 pm | delete
    I know, I know. That's the trouble with any open platform -- Blogger, Hubpages, whatever -- now that everyone can publish regardless of ability or effort, everyone does!

    Also, once people have really become accomplished at SEO and online writing, they tend to build up their own websites enough that they no longer need group publishing platforms.
  • TheiPadGamer Aug 24, 2011 @ 1:30 pm | delete
    I have this one burning question most SEo had not answered yet. Maybe you can shed some light. It is said that your article should have at least more than 700 words. What about photoblogs and video blogs? What should owners do? It was me who came though the Pand vs. photo blogs query, by the way. Nice job!
  • Greekgeek Aug 24, 2011 @ 3:15 pm | delete
    Gah, I already need to rewrite this lens or write a follow-up: Hubpages has improved site architecture, and Squidoo has now changed its site architecture to look more like the problems I criticized on Hubpages. But I'm glad it's useful.

    Images are a special case. Instead of ranking at the top of Google's default search, you can try to rank well on Google IMAGE search. The 700-word suggestion helps with Google's default web search, which is trying to serve up articles on a topic, and needs words to determine topic. But in your case, you've got a back door: not only will you get some traffic from regular web search, you'll get a lot of traffic from image search, which is surely looking for and operating in a slightly different way. If it uses the Panda algorithm at all, you come out ahead: blogs tend to get treated well by Google, so I'm guessing your original photo blog would outrank, say, scraped images on some Tumblr channel.

    Unfortunately, there's a lot less known (or at least written) about SEO for image search. We do know that it helps to name images specifically (image filenames are like the URLs on a conventional webpage; try to describe the image with a long-tail name like albino-bald-eagle.jpg so as to capture searches). Take advantage of your blogging software's fields for naming images; fill in the alt-name too. Site structure (tagging and categorizing posts) can help.

    Most of all, you have two advantages for image search. One, I'm sure image search engines are smart enough to know that your whole domain / blog / website is a place to find photos. That surely should give it a a wee boost for image-related searches. Second, a whole pile of competition is removed. There are fewer labeled, name photos on the web than webpages. Sure, there's lots of graphics, but they've got names like "fig1.jpg" and "dog.jpg" or even "corey.jpg" (the name of a dog, not mentioning it's a dog). You have fewer competitors -- other sites with photos of your subject -- so hopefully that helps.

    Take everything I say with a grain of salt. I've been watching the web since '93 and SEO for about 5 years, keeping up with places like SearchEngineland and SEO-thery, but I'm still a journeyman!
  • Kapalbility Aug 27, 2011 @ 3:19 pm | delete
    Thank you! I am a fan of yours (yup that was my second account.) Anyway, I found your lens very interesting as I found Hubpages' way to circumvent the Panda calamity a bit ridiculous - Hubpages is now not different from a mere blogging platform like Blogger, with the subdomains and all. It also opens a new door to spammers, in which they can drop lots of DO FOLLOW back links on their profile pages. I mean, you can use the profile page with a keyword rich URL, spam.hubpages.com to rank for the key term, spam. :D
  • fireblazzer Aug 20, 2011 @ 3:27 pm | delete
    wow,... great page!!!!

    i can tell you did a very good job at it.. thanks for all the great info

    and thankls for putting in the time to make this lens!
  • MiddleSister Aug 20, 2011 @ 1:42 pm | delete
    This is the best analysis I've found about the whole Google panda thing. Thank you so much!
  • Lindrus Aug 18, 2011 @ 12:15 am | delete
    Thank you for your detailed explanations! Very informative.
  • dexter-yarbrough Aug 15, 2011 @ 7:43 am | delete
    Great information. Thanks!
  • JennySui Aug 12, 2011 @ 6:12 pm | delete
    Thank you so much for taking our time to make this useful lens.
  • googleseotips Aug 3, 2011 @ 7:57 am | delete
    For having all kinds of links in your links campaign I suggest to have Hubpages and Squidoo both but yes Squidoo is what I like the most. As far as the traffic is concerned as long as you create something useful in which people will be interested it will be visited.
  • Desty Jul 30, 2011 @ 10:53 pm | delete
    Great article. I've been considering adding Hub pages to my platforms. I was going to pass them by due to the Google Slap, but now I'll throw some out there to see what happens.
  • charlino Jul 21, 2011 @ 11:21 am | delete
    Excellent overview of Panda and how it affects Hub and Squidoo.
  • thebabyshop Jul 19, 2011 @ 10:49 pm | delete
    I agree about deleting hubs-- don't do it! That time would be much better spent writing new articles on other websites. Right now Hubpages isn't doing well, but I'm sure in six months time they will be back to around where they were before. On the other hand, I'm sure Squidoo will be slapped at some point by this update, but hopefully a very gentle slap!
  • AnthonyAltorenna Jul 16, 2011 @ 7:05 am | delete
    Thank you for explaining the Panda changes so clearly. This information is very much appreciated!
  • zdaddyo Jul 14, 2011 @ 4:26 pm | delete
    Nice explanation on Panda. You've done a bang-up job here!
  • Jeff_McRitchie Jul 11, 2011 @ 11:25 am | delete
    Wow, this is a super-informative lens! Thank you so much for all the details you've spelled out for us. I publish both on here and Hubpages yet never compared them side by side like you have. Great lens!
  • bwet Jul 11, 2011 @ 8:31 am | delete
    Wow, I can't believe how in-depth this post is on Google Panda! Really great work and you deserve that purple star! Definitely slaps a lot of blog posts around talking about Google Panda and how it affects sites in general.
  • TechDad Jul 9, 2011 @ 9:15 pm | delete
    When you look up awesome in the dictionary, it has a link to this lens.
  • DentalHelper1984 Jul 9, 2011 @ 9:24 am | delete
    This is a great and well put together lens. I don't like Pandas anymore... lol
  • njmanura Jul 7, 2011 @ 9:05 am | delete
    One of the best lens i have ever read. this lens makes me to write in squidoo.
  • Duane_Jackson Jul 3, 2011 @ 10:53 pm | delete
    wow....extremely interesting and informative!
  • Chris-H Jun 30, 2011 @ 5:37 am | delete
    GreekGeek, this is a fantastic resource! :p

    Not only have I "liked" it, but I have also "plus 1"ed and bookmarked it.

    This is going to keep me busy for a while. I really appreciate your insights and your links.

    Truly, thank you.
  • whoisbid Jun 22, 2011 @ 4:46 am | delete
    Thanks for the resource. I linked to this from my Panda Update page so that people can get a balanced view i.e. news from more than one person!
  • Jun 20, 2011 @ 11:33 pm | delete
    I came here from HubPages. I decided to sign up for Squidoo after reading your (this) lens a couple of weeks ago. Since last week I published two lenses here and I see the difference.

    HubPages is suffering from constant spam since they let people publish in real time. I like the fact that Squidoo makes it such that one has to work hard at getting a published lens actually completed 100% before the raw traffic starts coming in.

    Just as you indicated in your graphs, I noticed a 50% drop in traffic on HubPages. Google has lowered the rank of all Hubs because of the poor quality Hubs on their site. Google made that clear in their blog...stating that on any site, poor quality pages will effect the entire site.

    As of today I had published 55 hubs and my score fluctuates between 97 and 100, so I would not want to give up all that effort. I'm not going to give up on HubPages but I am going to continue writing on both sites now.
  • Greekgeek Jun 25, 2011 @ 1:34 am | delete
    Ironically, someone flagged my Hubpages account as a spammer over a year ago -- I had a bunch of educational hubs, and I linked them to an educational blog I used to write -- so I can't get anything published or even edit an article on Hubpages without having to go through hand-approval. I keep meaning to write more on HP, but that barrier has made me concentrate efforts elsewhere, even though I like the clean interface of a finished Hub better for content-heavy articles than I do Squidoo's cutesy style!

    Both sites are useful; neither is perfect.

    Some experienced Squidoo members have started another article-publishing site called Wizzley.com. I haven't joined yet (partly because I'm annoyed with some friends spamming my guestbooks with referral codes), but it may be worth investigating as yet another basket in which to store a few eggs.
  • Jul 6, 2011 @ 9:19 pm | delete
    I just checked back today and saw your reply. Sorry about the delay.

    Wizzley.com has a nice clean look to it. But it takes time to learn a new site and I'm still going through that with Squidoo. It's strange what happened to you with HubPages. They are pretty good at knowing who is doing the spamming. I noticed a number of comments people left in my Hubs that HUbPages already marked as spam so they wouldn't so up in my Hub. This was done before I even saw it. And I could click to approve it anyway or delete it permanently.

    Maybe they got better at it since you were there. I'd give it another shot if you still have your account. Each site is special in their own way. HubPages is trying hard to keep up with new Google standards. I noticed Squidoo already is using the Google +1 button. But only for Giant Squids. Wizzley is placing the +1 on all of their pages. HubPages hasn't implemented it yet because they need to wait until they complete moving everyone into our own subdomains, which Google says should help with ranking since it isolates good Hubbers from poor quality Hubs. So as I see it, each site is doing something different to make our work successful. No matter what site we write on, we have to be patient and keep abreast of the latest Google rules since Panda struck.
  • Goldenpig999 Jun 18, 2011 @ 9:39 am | delete
    Holy panda information batman! That was a great lens.
  • arrogantwriter Jun 15, 2011 @ 10:24 am | delete
    This is so amazing and very accurate. Very good information.
  • mantasticman Jun 10, 2011 @ 4:36 pm | delete
    Great Job on this page - Some Awesome Info

    And you answered my questions =) So thanks!!
  • thesuccess Jun 10, 2011 @ 11:07 am | delete
    Tour de force!
  • seradis May 28, 2011 @ 7:23 pm | delete
    Great informative lens! I am not as confused about this Panda thing now. Thanks!
  • grannysage May 28, 2011 @ 11:15 am | delete
    I am so impressed with the amount of research that went into this topic and the very easy to understand explanation of search engine terms (something I am basically clueless about.) I really learned a lot here. I have seen a drop in my traffic in recent weeks, including one that generated lots of Google traffic. Others seem to be doing better although one is a niche topic and the other relates to a topic a lot of people are searching for. Lots to think about...thanks.
  • Tolovaj May 18, 2011 @ 10:46 am | delete
    Hi, thanks for this lens, I liked the part about Outbound links. I know a lot of web masters which fear about their link juice more then their lives. It is just so unnatural. The information must go on and on. At least this is the world we want it to be. Ah, sometimes I feel internet is just crowded with black hats ... Thanks for listening my grumbling:)
  • Partos May 16, 2011 @ 5:41 pm | delete
    Thank you so much for this most informative lens. It must have taken so long to research and create.
  • Serenia May 11, 2011 @ 7:44 am | delete
    Excellent lens and definitely worthy of its purple star!!!
    I LOVED page 2 where you specify exactly what needs to be done to IMPROVE lensrank for Squidoo lenses. I didnt understand that the interactive user is more important than the reader and a lot of my lenses dont have interactive modules other than the guestbook. Something I will be working on to IMPROVE.

    Thank you so much for an excellent lens.
  • makingamark May 10, 2011 @ 12:56 pm | delete
    Excellent analysis of a very complicated subject - blessed and lensrolled
  • MisterJeremy May 8, 2011 @ 6:48 am | delete
    You've done it again, GG. Great investigative work.
  • dandan594 May 8, 2011 @ 3:58 am | delete
    Great information - I had 80+ original content hubs ranking well in the search engines all on world religions, they were informative and interlinked. A few days after the panda update my whole account got suspended? I have tried contacting hubpages with no reply, at closer inspection it seems this has happened to a lot of hubbers. I am trough with hubpages! Another thing that helped squidoo was the page breaks, this prevents the use of auto surf websites which is not the case with hubpages, this may have made them look even more like a content farm.....Just a thought.
  • ForestBear May 8, 2011 @ 2:15 am | delete
    Thank you for this fantastic article. Great information!
  • saraclair79 May 7, 2011 @ 5:28 pm | delete
    I think I will start making more squids. Hubpages has lost a ton of content. I was very tempted to delete everything. However, you seem to know what you are talking about, so I will take your advice, and just keep the content on that site. Thanks.
  • Ruthi May 7, 2011 @ 2:30 pm | delete
    WoW! You have really done your homework to bring us this information. Thank you!
  • Celebritney May 6, 2011 @ 3:46 am | delete
    This is really helpful and now I can understand better what is going on, I just started writing on hubpages and noticed alot of people talking about the update in the forums.

    It helps to know that we can get traffic from other sources and that its best to write for more than one place.
  • wrylilt May 3, 2011 @ 7:41 pm | delete
    Great article! As a hubber who's lost 50%+ traffic, great to see someone actually going in depth into the reasons for this slap - just wish you were on the HP staff!
  • lakeerieartists May 3, 2011 @ 5:51 pm | delete
    This is a really super article. Excellent comparison and contrasting between the two sites. :)
  • GonnaFly May 3, 2011 @ 3:00 am | delete
    Wow. Thanks. I just spent ages reading your whole article. What a fascinating analysis. I'll be putting a link to this lens from my how to improve your lensrank lens.
  • aliciamaggie54 May 2, 2011 @ 7:48 pm | delete
    This is great information to know. Thank you so much for putting this together.
  • javrsmith May 2, 2011 @ 4:15 pm | delete
    I had trouble finding topics on Hubpages as well.
  • richiereveley May 2, 2011 @ 2:37 am | delete
    Wow.. Absolutely brilliant content & a fantastic read. This is defiantly "Panda" and "Farmer"
    proof material and I now thoroughly understand more about this topic. Thanks so much for putting this info together.
  • Oosquid May 1, 2011 @ 2:58 pm | delete
    Oh wow! You certainly don't under deliver when it comes to sharing information. And all written in an easy to understand and follow style. Thank you very much indeed for these lenses. Most useful.
  • Cumberland May 1, 2011 @ 12:59 pm | delete
    Thanks again for useful and pertinent information. This is a topic of which I was totally unaware.
  • Photahsiamirabel May 1, 2011 @ 10:54 am | delete
    Informative and very well written - even an SEO dummy like me can understand - thank you :)
  • puzzlemaker May 1, 2011 @ 5:34 am | delete
    Lots of awesome info. Some of my lenses were hit, some weren't. You've mentioned some things I didn't know that will help me.
  • spirituality May 1, 2011 @ 4:39 am | delete
    Another thing to observe about the hubpages front page: it's javascript: aka, non-crawleable.

    Note too that in terms of site navigation, the directory structure is hugely important and Sqauidoo just upgraded that to be equal to hubpages, which has had the feature longer.

    Are you really saying that if you don't sign up to Google analytics you don't get stats on hubpages? I didn't try that, but it really is a stupid move on the part of hubpages if true.
  • Greekgeek May 1, 2011 @ 9:09 am | delete
    I'm not 100% about having to sign up for Google analytics, since I just haven't been able to master Hubpages. I'm relying on Hubs on how to use Hubpages, and have really had a hard time finding Hubs, blog posts, or other information about keyword stats on Hubpages. (Google "Hubpages and keywords" and look at the first and second results that come up.)

    In Hubpages' own Learning Center help pages, they tell you to sign up with Google analytics to get access to keyword information. They do have a box for you to enter your analytics ID, so Hubpages is designed to be integrated with Analytics, but I imagine many newbies may not venture to do that, whereas Squidoo keyword stats are built-in. I don't honestly know whether this is much of a barrier or how many more Squidoo members are using search data than Hubpage members.

    I'm startled that Hubpages is generated by Javascript. I think most search engines may be able to figure it out anyway -- I tried cache:hubpages.com and see all of it, and using webconfs.com's spider simulator, which I don't think they've updated in 4 years, shows the key links are getting found. (Interesting using webconfs to crawl both sites and see what its 2006-era spider sees... probably it's what mobile searches see.)
  • sukkran May 1, 2011 @ 2:58 am | delete
    i have to thank you for these valuable information. grateful to you for sharing your expertise with us. bookmarked
  • ravenko Apr 30, 2011 @ 11:24 pm | delete
    I can't believe I read the entire lens every word and found it so interesting and well said, this was awesome thanks for sharing all this great information...
  • Jewelsofawe Apr 30, 2011 @ 11:08 pm | delete
    Wow! This is very interesting! I am reading all the pages you have written and this is good to know. Blessing this! You put alot of work into it!

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