Vintage Vinyl Record Collecting

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A few years ago, I set out to find a compact disc by a Jazz Fusion Guitarist by the name of Larry Coryell, That CD was a jazz fusion classic called Barefoot boy, the CD was long out of print, and the asking prices on eBay were astronomical, one hundred dollars or more, yet I would see the vinyl record priced under 20 bucks all the time, after careful thought, I said to myself, "I could spend 140 dollars for this CD, or I could buy a record player and the LP for about $100, plus I had a few records from my youth I hung on to, Guns n' Roses, Kiss, and a Beatles Yellow Submarine album, I am so glad I went ahead and purchased the turntable. I started hitting the thrift stores, finding all these classic rock and jazz records for a buck a piece or less, what a wonderful value. after cleaning the records, it amazed me how much more warmth the vinyl had, as opposed to the digital copy of the music, especially with jazz and progressive rock,"check Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon as an example" I thought I would give my own thoughts on vinyl record collecting, my own experiences and my cheapskate approach.

I have discovered many artists and Record labels like Command Records, founded by Enoch Light, Many of his recordings were examples of early audiophile technology. artist like Herb Alpert and Tom Jones, I have been fortunate enough to find almost every one of these artists original LP's for a buck a piece, or less! I will give my thoughts on, where to find those cheap records, what types of beginner turntables to buy, plus storage and cleaning on a budget. Please understand, I am only a few years into my vinyl adventure, so I by no means consider myself an expert, but I have tried here to convey some of the things I have learned from those who I do consider experts, as well as my own personal observations on vinyl record collecting.

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Where to find cheap records in playable condition

For me, One of the best places to find good quality records for a good price is at Half Price Books, A chain of retail stores that specialize in books at low prices, people can bring in old books, CD's, DVDs and vinyl records and convert them to cash, most records are priced in the 1.98 to 4.98 range, ( in the Cincinnati and Dayton Ohio areas) each store is its own story, so prices can vary wildly, but always reasonable.

The next best place is your local thrift store, this is where you can really score big, just today I found an early pressing of a Blue Note record of the jazz pianist Horace Silver, that amazingly enough suffered only from minor sleeve scuffs, as well as a record of the jazz arranger Johnny Richard from 1956 in near mint condition, both of these records are selling on eBay at just below 100 bucks a piece, I paid 2 dollars for both, the main problem with the thrift stores is, you need great patience, they are hit and miss, today I went to 5 stores in my area of Dayton Ohio, found 12 records at one, and ten at another, but nothing at the other 3, also I would say 2 out of every 3 records are in such poor condition, that I just leave it behind.also independent thrift stores and junk stores can offer some treasure finding. if they are charging more than a dollar piece, I don't bother looking.

Some times you run in to a Know it all , who thinks they are the inventor of the Goldmine standard to grading records. They will have crazy prices on records that are pure junk, Scratches everywhere, and Even one place actually wrote the prices in permanent marker right on the cover. That was my cue to leave fast.



You can find an extended essay on this topic at Where to buy cheap vinyl records.

Vinyl record cleaning

An absolute must for a collector, every record you buy at a thrift store, most on eBay, and nearly all record stores need a good cleaning. you will be amazed how much better the record will sound after cleaning. There are many cheap options for record cleaning. After you buy a cleaning brush or pad with a velvet liner, your best option is to buy solution by the quart and use a small spray bottle, machines are out there that may do a better job, but will set you back hundreds of dollars.

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Enoch Light spaced out.

A record I found at a thrift store for 50 cents

This record has an average sale price on ebay of 15 dollars as of 4/9/11 , a great example of what you can find if you dig. There is quite a market for these types of records,

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5 Best Things about Vinyl records

#1) I love the original full size art work, No CD booklet can match the detail of Vintage Covers.

#2) The sound of analog tends to have a warmer more natural sound to me.

#3) Vinyl records really need attention, You can't drive around in your car with them, It puts the focus on the music. I love just sitting down with the music and paying close uninterrupted attention to the music.

#4) Even though vinyl has made a huge comeback, Particularly with the under 30 crowd, You can still find Vinyl at very cheap prices, if you hunt them down, Also many Records have never been issued on CD and may never be.

#5) A connection with your past, Especially if you are 40 and over, I love the nostalgia of returning to the first format i ever used for enjoying music, I laugh now when I think about how excited I was about the CD, When it was first introduced in mass in the mid 80's. and Now I am actually selling CD's to get more vinyl.

My best tip for hunting down cheap vinyl at thrift stores.

Pick out a couple thrift stores close to home, and drop in 3 times a week for a few months, keep your ears and eyes open, Some times you will hear about big loads of records that just arrived, Don't be shy about asking if they have more in the back, You have to love first dibs.

List of record stores in Ohio

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3 worst things about vinyl

#1) Space, This is the biggie, I have a collection of over 5,000 records, I am swimming in them, That doesn't include the Vinyl I have for sale, No way around the fact that you need plenty of space to store them, Even a modest collection will require sturdy shelving.

#2) Vinyl care, You have to clean your records before every use, At least a dry clean with an anti static brush, all records, even new ones, need at least one good wet clean, and even after that some noise will be heard.

#3) Vinyl, especially vintage vinyl with some wear will have surface noise of some sort, and if you are real picky about this fact, stay away from vintage vinyl, and buy only new issues, or mint or sealed vintage vinyl. Headphone usage will highlight this issue, Records with light wear and some surface noise won't be so noisy, not to enjoy on a good system. Heavy Metal and hard rock albums tend to play best for low noise, because of the nature of that music, the music hides surface noise quite well.

vinyl record cleaning tools on amazon

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cool video with some Blue Note Vinyl recommendations

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vinyl record storage

One major draw back of the vinyl record, they take up a lot of space,. but some nice storage options are available., the Expedit Shelves below are what I use, and they look great, and they are heavy duty.

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Great links to finding vinyl

Ohio Record Shops

Turntabling » Blog Archive » Everybody’s Records, Pleasant Ridge Ohio
by Joe Wallace

web link to turntable care

Vinyl care tips
A well though out site, full of great tips on record care, turntable ,stylus. cartridge, etc....

More vinyl on eBay

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Vinyl is still be pressed today.

180 GRAM or 200 GRAM

One thing that surprised me when I began collecting records was the nice little niche market for new vinyl, not just reissues, many alternative rock and indie bands are pressing vinyl for new releases, Jazz has its own cottage industry with vinyl reissues, 180 gram ,200 gram and heavier, the thicker the LP, the deeper the grooves and and the more detail in sound the turntable can produce, the key is to get it the close as possible to the way it sounded in the studio .many of these reissues are quite expensive for limited editions, but most can be had for about the same cost as a compact disc. eBay and Amazon are great places to find these as well. You should be careful when buying vintage records, because some dealers may try to pass a reissue off as original, or they don't know the difference, always ask questions if there is some doubt.

Your comments are greatly appreciated.

  • Timewarp Apr 7, 2012 @ 10:54 pm | delete
    Im a huge vinyl fan and long time collector, great lens!
  • skiesgreen Nov 8, 2011 @ 10:23 pm | delete
    Nice topic for a lens. Never thought of tryoing to buy vinyls now.
  • wolfie10 Oct 26, 2011 @ 9:05 pm | delete
    still got some from the 70's.
  • PaxLamprey Oct 24, 2011 @ 3:25 pm | delete
    I've been resisting the call of collecting vinyl, mostly because to time and space limitations. But your lens has almost pushed me over the edge! Thumbs up!
  • cdevries Sep 8, 2011 @ 6:34 pm | delete
    A fascinating Lens! At my college, Syracuse University, there used to be a professor who collected Very early recordings - with two from the same, say, Caruso pressing, he could play them simultaneously and cancel out the scratches and pops. Always though that was cool...
  • Irenemaria May 14, 2011 @ 3:16 am | delete
    This is a love story. Love for Vinyl! Enjoyed reading this lens and *blessed it*
  • The_Accountant Apr 27, 2011 @ 8:12 am | delete
    Nothing can beat the sound and look of vinyl. There's a warmth to the sound that can never be replicated by digital copies. Keep up the good work!
  • Tipi Apr 15, 2011 @ 11:06 pm | delete
    Wonderful tips and encouragement for those stepping into the vinyl world. They do have their own special sort of magic but this digital world is taking over it seems. I remember when 8 tracks came out and how great it was to play your own music in the car.
  • ajgodinho Apr 10, 2011 @ 11:20 am | delete
    This is a nice lens for people who collect vinyl. I still remember when I was younger, my dad playing and cleaning his vinyls. We used to love seeing how he did it. It's amazing how far we've advanced, but I agree can't beat the "look and feel" of a clean vinyl.
  • bikerministry Apr 9, 2011 @ 4:29 pm | delete
    Miss the vinyl myself.
  • ToTheBrimm Mar 1, 2011 @ 12:10 am | delete
    Digital is more convenient - there's no doubt about that - but I do miss my old turntable from time to time.
  • MTF-briguy Feb 21, 2011 @ 1:33 am | delete
    Thanks for the information on vinyl! You sure did cover a lot!
  • dotpattern Feb 7, 2011 @ 2:09 am | delete
    That's a great Larry Coryell album. Do you have a link to a macintosh stereo? Audiophiles favorite.

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