Guide to Intergalactic Travel
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IGT
Don't make the mistake of thinking that this is a project for the far future or even the near future. We hope to succeed not just in our lifetimes but soon.
And don't think that because you aren't Einstein that you can't help this project. Einstein worked in a patent office. And a physics lab once gave a university position to a guy who repaired elevators because he came up with an idea they hadn't thought of.
Table of Contents
- Long, long ago
- actually Star Wars is the reason I want to get out of this galaxy
- Supernova PTF 11kly
- Coming Soon
- Rollout
- ship design
- Link List
- Intergalactic Travel 101
- IGT bookstore
- not that new
- galaxyships
- wanted: hyperluminal physicists
- The Extended Address
- Vela Asterism
- Centre of our Galaxy
- The Milky Way
- The Milky Way Multiplet
- The Local Group
- The Local Group & neighboring groups
- Virgo Supercluster
- Pisces-Cetus Complex
- a note on astronomy & news
- Andromeda
- Andromeda
- the Antennae galaxies
- link to pan of Antennae
- the Black-Eye galaxy
- the Cartwheel galaxy
- the Sombrero galaxy
- Triangulum
- the Whirlpool galaxy
- a ring galaxy
- a polar ring galaxy
- more IGT 101
- motivation
- Reasons to Go
- Things You Can Do Right Now to Make It So
- Technology Needed to Be Invented
- Critical Path Research
- things computer folk can do
- Questions & Answers
- What do you mean by "the age of the star child" ?
- Glossary
- book mentioned above
- How long would it take to travel to Barnard's galaxy at light speed?
- Barnard's galaxy
- a key concept: the central project
- goal setting
- history
- Design
- Eliptical, Normal and Barred
- size of galaxies
- types of galaxies
- I have the need for speed
- not this kind of fast
- faster
- FASTEST!!!
- just so we are clear, this is just for starters
- reality check ahead
- reality check
- your computer will not get you off the ground
- you have to bend metal
- or carbon composite or fiberglass or . . .
- . . . even tri-titanium
- Macroengineering
- Macroengineering Books
- galaxyship design
- spaceship design
- Builders
- spaceship builder
- we need more modern transportation
- okay so maybe a truck won't work either
- and stop playing with the bubble wrap!
- not everybody wants to go to Andromeda
- What's The Point ?
- What do you think of Google SketchUp ?
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- become a member
- Members Only
- recommended social networks
- social networks for research scientists
- professional societies
- Where to do research and development?
- the "Bird Galaxy"
- Bode's galaxy
- Holmberg IX
- the Cigar galaxy
- the Comet galaxy
- Hoag's Object, a galaxy
- The Large Magellanic
- Mayall's Object, a galaxy
- The Small Magellanic
- Sunflower galaxy
- Tadpole galaxy
- the Pinwheel galaxy
- the Sombrero galaxy
- the Whirlpool galaxy
- pay attention
- visible near the bottom of this image are two galaxies, Maffei 1 and Maffei 2
- Maffei 1
- Maffei 2
- "Willman 1"
- Wolf-Lundmark-Melotte
- Wanted: Dead or Alive -- Komossa's Object
- finding tachyons
- Library of Conrgress
- beta site
- Who will sponsor us?
- finance
- If you prefer to cut a check . . .
- please . . .
- -
- Please . . .
- -
- -
- thanks !
- This is a galaxy
- CANDELS
- galaxy cluster MACS 1206
- Arp 273
- No one has written a check yet
- It is just a matter of time . . .
- Featured Lens
Long, long ago
(actually September 15th, 2011)
The nearest stellar system is Alpha Centauri which has three stars. Now it doesn't have a planet orbiting a double star but for half a dozen decades (long before the Search for Extra-Solar Planets or SESP got underway) astronomers have ceded the possibility of a planet circling two or even three stars. In terms of orbital mechanics, the stars are mutually orbiting each other and any planets are actually orbiting the center of gravity -- a spot of empty space between the two stars.This latest find is not in a "galaxy far, far away." That would be some extreme optics to pull that off. The planet is in our own galaxy Follow the llinks if you care.
actually Star Wars is the reason I want to get out of this galaxy
- Has NASA Discovered a Tatooine-like World? | News & Opinion | PCMag.com
- A special effects creator who worked on Star Wars will be speaking at a NASA news conference on a discovery made by the Kepler planet-finding mission. Has NASA found an analogue to something out of science fiction?
- First Planet Orbiting Two Stars Discovered by the NASA Kepler Spacecraft : Life at the SETI Institute
- For the first time, astronomers with the NASA Kepler spacecraft mission have discovered a planet orbiting two stars. This is a fundamentally different kind of planetary system than has ever been discovered before.
Supernova PTF 11kly
in the Pinwheel Galaxy

If looking through your own scope, it is in the Big Dipper. (For our friends in the Southern Hemisphere, read on.)
Otherwise, try to get a feed over the internet from a big scope like Palomar or Hubble.
Coming Soon
correction: Here
1. ship design2. ship building
3. propulsion concepts
4. research
Please comment if there are approaches other than the usual biggies:
1. relativistic approaches to IGT
2. IGT via wormholes
3. folding space
4. none of the above
Rollout
new departments
These new departments will be coming out at an agonizingly slow pace at first, but contribute ideas and the pace will accelerate --
1. ship design
2. ship building
3. propulsion concepts
ship design

1. conventional designs -- rocket configurations and aerospaceplane configurations. Think Nineteen Fifties with rockets landing on their tails, vertical take off and landing. Or think of hypersonic transports and National Aero Space Plane, horizontal take off and landing.
2. pure space designs -- no heat shields required since there would be no entry or reentry into any atmosphere, think Institute for Advanced Study concepts, Bussard collectors, Freeman Dyson's work and the British Interplanetary Society's ideas for interstellar travel
3. post-interstellar travel designs -- ideas since the heyday of the BIS
4. science fiction designs -- sure these guys seem more off into sword & sorcery fantasy these days and maybe science fiction is dead (certainly the Golden Age of Science Fiction has passed). Star Wars? There is no sound in space. Generation ships? Oh please. Like humans can think about next week much less about the next generation. Otherwise, we would already have done something about reversing global warming. Star Trek? Maybe. Those guys do think a lot about technical matters. Though I doubt if even antimatter and dilithium crystals will deliver the velocity we need.. Firefly? Those guys gave up on better government (the Alliance is like our governments today, it tortures teen agers and children), winning star wars (the Browncoats and Independents lost) and, worst of all, getting much beyond nearby stellar systems. One compliment though, those Firefly guys understand the importance of terraforming and that humans do not want to live in tin cans (space stations). Even the Mercury astronauts used to joke about being spam in a can. I was never a big fan of Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda so I don't know if they came up with any useful ideas as far as ship design goes. I did pick up on the fact that the Andromeda Ascendant had an artificial intelligence but I do not know if the avatar (played by Lexa Doig) was a robot that one could physically touch or was an advanced hologram that one could touch like the emergency medical hologram doctor on Star Trek: Voyager. Frankly, I don't care too much about the information technology of a ship. I care about the engines that make it go. Babylon Five had jump gates and Vorlons with biological ships. More about this elsewhere in this lens. Lastly, Stargate considers intergalactic travel (almost alone in TV science fiction) but it is demoralizing with the "same old, same old' wars, parasites, wormholes, and lack of convincing speculation as to how IGT is engineered. Going to other galaxies just to fight still more wars is the biggest turn off of this disappointment. Apparently, writers in Hollywood cannot even conceive of a universe without war.
5. radical designs
Link List
In the near future, we will create our own professional societies to serve our own needs.
- Superluminal Physics
- Do your own search of Google Scholar
- Goddard Multimedia Item 10251 - GLAST Prelude, for Brass Quintet, Op.12
- NASA GSFC Scientific Visualization Server
- sounds from space
- Astronomers have used wavelength-translation tricks to produce spooky audio from X-ray emissions from a black hole.
- Cosmic Distance Scales -The Nearest Galaxies
- About the Image The Large and Small Magellanic clouds were thought to be the closest galaxies to ours, until 1994, when the Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy (SagDEG) was discovered. In 2003, the Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy was discovered - this is now the closest known galaxy to ours!
[Hey, what about Snickers?] - American Mathematical Society
- The American Mathematical Society was founded in 1888.
- Mathematical Association of America: MAA Online
- MAA ONLINE--Online newsletter and web site of the Mathematical Association of America
- YMN - The Young Mathematicians Network at Facebook
- Facebook is a social utility that connects people with friends and others who work, study and live around them. People use Facebook to keep up with friends, upload an unlimited number of photos, post links and videos, and learn more about the people they meet.
- *Concerns of Young Mathematicians*
- Issues of concern to mathematicians at the beginning of their careers
- Tau Beta Pi - The Engineering Honor Society
- Welcome to the Internet home of the Engineering Honor Society. ... founded in 1885.
- National Society of Professional Engineers
- The National Society of Professional Engineers (NSPE) strengthens the engineering profession by promoting engineering licensure and ethics, advocating and protecting professional engineers' legal rights at the national and state levels, publishing news of the profession, providing continuing educati
- American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
- Be advised : This organization has _NO_ interest whatsoever in what we are doing. We include them here for completeness. Their inclusion is not an endorsement.
- Free Online Course Materials | MIT OpenCourseWare
- Free Lecture Notes, Exams, Syllabus, Tutorials, Audio & Video from MIT professors. All Free. No registration required.
- Engineering
- The Engineer's Ultimate Resource Tool.
- 5 Things Hollywood Thinks Computers Can Do | Cracked.com
- See the reality check section below:
- The Great Escape: Intergalactic Travel is Possible : Discovery News
- Imagine a space faring civilization hurtling between galaxies, propelled by the gravitational energy of a black hole, and having resources for supporting a
- Intergalactic travel
- Voyages across the Universe have come light years closer - SpaceRef
- intergalactic travel
- ADVANCED
PROPULSION CONCEPTS - Intergalactic travel | Facebook
- Welcome to the Facebook Community Page about Intergalactic travel, a collection of shared knowledge concerning Intergalactic travel.
- Idea #7: Fsa Labs
- Not an Idea Sexist (different parsing of the words) but the labs are Ab Fab, absolutely fabulous fabrication. Reminds one of 3-D sterolithography.
Or not. - [PDF] We study the history of science, and of physics in particular ...
- Tachyons were not so much "predicted" by special relativity (44) as found consistent with it.
- Deutsche Physikalische Gesellschaft
- The Deutsche Physikalische Gesellschaft (DPG, German Physical Society) is the world's largest organization of physicists.
- Tachyon condensation in unstable type I D-brane systems - CaltechAUTHORS
- Nov 29, 2009 ... Bergman, Oren (2000) Journal of High Energy Physics, 2000 (11). Art. no. 015.
[We have MIT listed here so it is only fair to put one in for Caltech] - Supercivilization - Guestbook
- Go to the home page for description and to videos page for some inspiration.
- Humans CAN win a war against ET's!!!, page 6
- Humans cannot win a war with ET's. The debates rages.
- Lifeboat Foundation: Safeguarding Humanity
- The Lifeboat Foundation is a nonprofit
nongovernmental organization
dedicated to ensuring that humanity adopts the increasingly powerful
technologies of
genetics, nanotechnology, and robotics safely as we move towards the
Singularity. - Intergalactic travel Forum
- editor's note -- Unless the topics of "related forums" are brought in as threads or sub-forums in a general IGT forum, this will die a slow death. That's the bad news.
The good news is that whoever dreamed up these "related forums" must be into physics. I suggest that physics students who are supportive of IGT visit and post periodically even if they are the only one there. Tell every physics student you know to do the same thing as you and the viral marketing will get a healthy discussion going.
But have faith and put it into your scheduler or on your calendar to visit periodically. Spark to life a discussion -- especially if you are the first one there as is likely to be the case.
Intergalactic Travel 101
the basics
Who: scientists and engineers welcome (others will have to prove their worth to the group)What: intergalactic travel at hyperluminal speeds (meaning faster than the range termed superluminal or FTL). In practical terms, this means faster than one billion celeritas (that's the C in E=mc squared). If you cannot travel from the Milky Way to another galaxy in under ten years (even in suspended animation or cryo-hibernation) then why bother? Ten years is a lot of time to be out of it. Voyages that took months were barely tolerable back in the last Age of Exploration therefore years are intolerable to people like us used to things happening fast. Even intergalactic distances should not take centuries. One decade okay maybe but not longer than that.
When: screw doing this someday in the far distant future. If technology is so great and if we can land a man on the moon, we can do anything. So the time scale for getting a project like this organized is also within human time frame. By 2027 would be nice. While on the subject of time, Time Dilation Compensation Technology needs to be invented so that upon return an eternity had not passed. Otherwise, what's it all for? Go to another galaxy in ten years, back in ten years and on Earth twenty years has not passed. The Earth is long gone and everyone you knew is gone. Unacceptable.
Where: Andromeda might seem the obvious choice for destination but there are good cases to be made for other galaxies in the Local Group as destination. Triangulum, Maffei I, and Wolf Lundmark are some other choices. The little satellite galaxies that orbit the Milky Way are only practice missions for the big enchilada.
Why: There are over 200 reasons if you're interested in motivational psychology. Truth is we want to go because we want to go. Same as Mount Everest or any other destination.
How: Aye, there's the rub. The how is not just breakthroughs in science and macroengineering. It is also motivation and megafunding. This can't be done on the cheap but we aren't looking for taxpayer money. The moon has proven to us that taking public money is how you slow down projects. We don't want a penny of tax money because strings will be attached.
We don't appriove of everything in the Wiki article. Just threw it in for a primer.
IGT bookstore
not that new
Before light pollution and air pollution made it impossible, people with sharp eyesight could see Andromeda and Triangulum (two galaxies in the same Local Group as the Milky Way). However, it was not until the time of Harlow Shapley and the observatory at Palomar that we knew that three of those stars were not stars but galaxies. Galaxies are accumulations of billions of stars.
Other than Andromeda and Triangulum, the only other galaxies visible to the unaided eye are the Magellanic Clouds. However, the Magellanic Clouds are just satellite galaxies. A satellite galaxy is exactly what you'd expect: a little galaxy (millions instead of billions of stars) that orbits a much bigger primary galaxy. The Milky Way has almost a dozen satellite galaxies. One is called (what else?) Snickers. Another set of the Milky Way's satellites are called collectively The Seven Dwarfs because they are dwarf galaxies. And the Magellanic Clouds are a set of three satellite galaxies: The Larger Magellanic Cloud or Nubecula Major, the Smaller Magellanic Cloud or Nubecula Minor, and the Remnant.
All is not boring in the region of the satellite galaxies. One of the first supernovas discovered was in The Magellanic Clouds. And intelligent life might possibly be there. Hope not though. It would cramp real estate speculation if politicians feel that the natives need to be exterminated before we can suburbanize intergalactic space.
And that brings us to the real reason for intergalactic travel: Peace. Science Fiction has programmed, inculcated, brainwashed, and otherwise drilled into our heads that as we explore The Milky Way we will be engaging in nonstop genocide. A field day for the fascists and Rudyard Kipling conservatives who want to kill everything that is alive and bring to life dead metal terminators. Or anti-capitalists who want to tie space exploration in so many bureaucratic knots and red tape that freedom is impossible. Newsflash: it already is! If science fiction has pre-programmed the collective imagination to expect and to want genocide and star wars, then keep your starship and give me a galaxyship so that I can get as far away from the human race as possible. I promise I won't come back if you promise not to come looking for me. [If you do, I'll be ready.]
Intergalactic travel within our lifetimes (within the next forty years) is the audacious goal. You don't like it? Go away. We don't want your tax money. We'll finance it on our own. Just get out of our way and we'll leave quietly. Stand in our way and . . . . just read the headlines. Half the discontent on this planet could be solved with population reduction. And since the followers of medieval religions would rather have twenty children that they cannot feed and girls that they refuse to educate and refuse to practice the birth control and family planning that would lift them out of poverty, let's face it. The population is not going down anytime soon. That means we're killing Mother Earth. Some of us need to move to other worlds. Terraformed worlds. We're volunteering to go. And all we're asking is that the politicians (and NASA) get out of our way and let us leave. Change the laws and drop the taxes on space business. Don't delude yourself into thinking that the IRS is going to go where no man has gone before just to squeeze one cent of taxes out of some colony that may be in another stellar system or even another galaxy. Use your imagination. Different legal regime. New nations started not under the oppressive Patriot Act Earth.
The views expressed in this module do not reflect the views of the authors of other modules at The Guide to Intergalactic Travel.
galaxyships
the dream machines
A galaxyship is simply a ship designed to convey passengers from one galaxy to another. It is not simply a souped-up starship because a starship is not simply a souped-up planetship (Earth to Mars for example). Sleeper compartments and suspended animation sound, initially, to be what one would expect. However, who wants to be out of it for centuries or millennia or even millions of years? When you wake up, you're obsolete because society has passed you by. Faster ships built after you departed might pass you by also. So a practical galaxship has to have a transit time to say Andromeda of less than ten years.Has to.
Any slower is intolerable. Faster is preferable. Hence the need for hyperluminal physics, which is the physics of velocities above one billion celeritas (lightspeed).
Also the need for technologies like time dilation compensation technology (TDCT) and inertia damping. Forget slowpoke Warp Ten starships. We're talking real speed.
In the near future, we will have a whole section just for designers of galaxyships. Starship designers: please do not apply.
wanted: hyperluminal physicists
to talk here about hyperluminal physics or at a site of your choosing The Extended Address

E-mail has made our world smaller and not always in good ways. There are children (and some adults) who do not know how to properly address an envelope as a result. Let's revive this lost art:
1 Your Street
Your Town, Your State or Province (or Prefecture)
Postal or Zip Code
Your Country
Your Continent (Oceania for instance)
Earth
Solar System
Vela Asterism
Orion Spur
Cygnus Arm
Milky Way Galaxy
Milky Way Multiplet
The Local Group
The Local Cluster
Ursa Major-Canes Venatici Cloud
Virgo Supercluster
Pisces-Cetus Complex
Melchiori's Universe
Our Multiverse
Our Pluriverse
The Cosmos
There is nothing bigger than the cosmos because (by definition) it is everything: all creation, heaven, hell, limbo, purgatory, everything but God the Creator. It might fascinate you to know that this cosmic address took years of research and includes the findings of astronomers as well as cutting edge theoretical work by astrophysicists and cosmologists. However, it is subject to updating. For example, our universe was formerly called Friedman's Universe based on that understanding of it. The Melchiori model may be dated. We stand corrected if that is appropriate.
Pray that you are never abducted by inconsiderate aliens who dump you on some world on the other side of creation. If so, memorizing this address could get you home. You don't want to sound stupid if a helpful extraterrestrial offers to take you home and you don't know where home is. Makes everybody from Earth look stupid.
ET: "Where are you from?"
You: "Earth.
ET: "What is that?"
You: "A planet."
ET: "Where is it?"
You: "In the Solar System."
So far so good. Your education might get you home.
ET: "In what galaxy?"
You: "The Milky Way. We're not in the Milky Way?"
ET: "No. Where is this Milky Way galaxy?"
There are more galaxies in the universe (trillions) than there are stars in the Milky Way (billions). You'll never get home because you don't know where home is. Most of us, if kidnapped and taken to a foreign country, could find our way back to our home country with help from strangers. Learn the cosmic address. You might be the first alien abductee to come home in one piece.
Vela Asterism

The Solar System
The Alpha Centauri System
The Barnard's Star System

The Milky Way
The Milky Way Multiplet

A multiplet is simply a primary galaxy and the satellite galaxies that orbit it. The Milky Way is the primary galaxy of the Milky Way Multiplet (no surprise there).
The satellites and their distance from Earth in kilo parsecs are:
Snickers - ?
Greater Magellanic (aka Larger Magellanic or Nubecula Major) - 54
Smaller Magellanic (Nubecula Minor) - 60
The Remnant - ?
Sculptor - 110
Ursa Minor - 67
Draco - 75
Carina - 85
Fornax - 130
Sextans - 85
Leo (I, II, III or IV) - ? (The problem here is not only distance but the fact that the name "Leo" has been slapped on so many astronomical objects.)
[Note: Since I wrote this module, I have been told that the Milky Way has more satellite galaxies. Well if true, then I need to know the names of these discoveries. Several small galaxies that used to be considered as satellites orbiting the Milky Way have lately been found to be too distant to be orbiting. For example, if it is as far out as Andromeda, then common sense would tell you that something is not right.]
The Local Group

Center: lies between the Milky Way and Andromeda
Radius: one point five mega parsecs
[One parsec is 3.26 light-years]
Diameter: three mega parsecs
Notable named members of the Local Group:
1. Milky Way Multiplet
Satellites: eleven known as of this writing
2. Andromeda-Triangulum Multiplet
Primaries: Andromeda and Triangulum
Satellites: include the Van den Bergh galaxies (And. I, And. II & And. III) and four others, seven total as of this writing
3. Wolf Lundmark Melotte
Note: this is one galaxy not three. It was named after the three astronomers who discovered it.
4. Barnard's Galaxy
Notes: It is named after E. E. Barnard who saw it as a nebula in his five-inch refractor (telescope) in 1884.
5. IC 1613
Note: also known as DDO 8
6. IC 10
7. The Pegasus Dwarf Galaxy
8. System 3
Note: also known as "Local Group System 3"
9. The Aquarius Dwarf Galaxy
10. IC 5152
11. Sagittarius Dwarf Irregular Galaxy
12. Leo A
Note: not to be confused with the Leo dwarf galaxy that orbits the Milky Way
13. GR 8
Note: once thought to be part of another group, now officially a member of The Local Group
14. UGC-A86
Note: In 1990, discovered to be part of The Local Group by the Hale telescope. This proves that ground-based observatories can hold their own with space-based telescopes.
15. Regulus
16. Tucana Dwarf
Note: one of the newest discovered members of The Local Group
Maffei Multiplet
note: because of its relative motion and velocity, Maffei has been kicked out of official lists of members of the Local Group because it is not moving with the group independent of the "Hubble flow" (expansion of the universe).
NGC 247 and Sextans A (not to be confused with the Sextans dwarf galaxy that orbits the Milky Way) have also been classified as no longer members of The Local Group.
Neighbors:
M 81 Group - the group nearest The Local Group
M 101 Group - dominated by the Pinwheel Galaxy
The Local Cluster consists of The Local Group (our home), The M 81 Group (the nearest neighboring group), and the M 101 Group (the most spectacular group around). In a future update of this module, we'll discuss the nearest cluster to The Local Cluster and other places we ought to visit in person instead of staring up through telescopes.
But first, we ought to get some idea of what's out there before we get aboard a galaxyship and step on the accelerator. Andromeda, it turns out, is a radiation hazard. It has long been regarded as the most obvious destination for the first intergalactic voyage. I am calling that into question. Maybe Triangulum is a better destination. Maybe Maffei is a better destination. I think we'll visit Snickers or the Magellanic Clouds as a warm-up for the real power trips. Just like we visited the moon before we set our sights on Mars.
You less venturesome souls out there are saying: "Let's go to Alpha Centauri or Proxima Centauri before even thinking about intergalactic travel." Do I need to remind you that the Europeans went around the world before anybody thought to go to the North Pole? The North Pole is considerably closer to Portugal or Spain than the antipodes. And the Magellanic Clouds are named for that circumnavigator.
You want to go to Mars? Build your planetship. You want to go to Alpha Centauri? Build your starship. But this place is for galaxyship builders. We make no apologies for that.

The Local Group & neighboring groups

Virgo Supercluster

Pisces-Cetus Complex
a note on astronomy & news

1. Space is neither flat nor two-dimensional but even professional astronomers treat it as if it were.
2. Space has at least three spatial dimensions. [We are not concerned right now with time]
3. If two objects appear in the telescope or an astronomical photo, only a fool would assume that the two objects are close to each other but this is exactly the sort of thing that the conventional approach to astronomy encourages.
4. Astrology is not science. It is pseudo-science for people who flunked real science in school.
5. The teaching of the astrological zodiac and other constellations to children can retard their understanding of space. The stars of the Big Dipper and the Little Dipper are not near each other in three-dimensional space. Only rarely are the stars in constellations actually near each other. The Pleiades is one of those exceptions. Each culture of ancient Earth had its own constellations in the night sky. It is like seeing shapes in cumulus clouds on a fair day. If we were dreaming up constellations today, we would see cell phones and computers.
6. The only real use of constellations is in orienteering and navigation. If we traveled to the far side of the Milky Way from us, all our familiar "constellations" would be gone because the relative positions of stars would have changed. This is not true of galaxies. They would still be in the same direction in the night sky if we looked at them from a planet on the far side of the Milky Way.
7. We are inside the Milky Way. We have photos of other galaxies but no complete photo of the Milky Way. We are pretty sure that the Milky Way is a spiral galaxy like Andromeda and similar in appearance to it. We do not know for sure. What you see in a very dark sky is the disk edge on looking towards the center of our galaxy. That's what the Romans called "The Milky Way" and how our home galaxy got its name.
8. We would need to travel in perpendicular fashion at right angles above the plane of the Milky Way to properly take its picture. We did not have a whole Earth photo until the Apollo astronauts went to the moon and were therefore sufficiently far away to get the whole planet in one photo. If not for that photo, we might not have an environmental movement. Green. Clean air. Clean water. That's a good thing. Can you imagine what impact the first photo of the Milky Way will have? It might stop wars. The real trick is getting everybody in the Milky Way to say cheese when galactonauts take the picture.
9. Beware the word "cluster" whenever you encounter it in astronomy. Stellar astronomers use it several ways when talking about little objects within the Milky Way. Extragalactic astronomers use it to mean big geographic objects larger than the Local Group. The Local Group is part of the Local Cluster. Clusters aggregate into clouds. Clouds aggregate into superclusters. Superclusters aggregate into complexes. And about two dozen or so complexes make up the known universe. The best book on space geography is Galaxies by Timothy Ferris. [Needless to say, extragalactic astronomers abuse the word "cloud" the same way they misapply cluster. Follow the guidelines I offer and you will stay sane and not tear out your hair in frustration.]
10. On top of bad astronomy education is bad astronomy reporting. The news adds to the chaos when they report: "Astronomers have discovered the most distant object yet." Okay. What type of object? A black hole, a quasar, a galaxy, a supercluster, what? What is the object called? What name has it been assigned in case you want to Google it? What observatory or astronomer or team discovered it? Is it as distant as the Red Limit? Put it in context. Where is the object? In what supercluster is it located? Which way do I point my telescope? Got a three-D map? Why are you reporting this? Is it just to frustrate amateur astronomers or is it to make people who are not professional astronomers feel stupid? How do we get more information? Is the information at ABC News dot com or CBS News dot com or NBC News dot com or CNN? This is what goes through my mind when I hear an extragalactic astronomy report on the news.
Dear CEO of news organization,
Do not insult the intelligence of the public. Do not act as if the average Joe or Jane is not interested in the universe. Taxpayers, voters, citizens, civilians, and just plain people read NASA the riot act when it proposed to decommission The Hubble. That's our property! That's our window on the universe. Don't you dare deny us The High Frontier. This country was built on the frontier. And, apparently, people all over the world love The Hubble as much as we do. And if I was starving to death, I would give my last penny to keep it in orbit. So Mister Head of News Organization, don't talk down to us! Don't toss out random trivia. Give us space news in an organized manner.
Sincerely,
John Q. Public.
Andromeda

Andromeda

the Antennae galaxies

link to pan of Antennae
- ESA - Space Science - Antennae galaxies' fertile marriage - images
- A new Hubble image of the Antennae galaxies is the sharpest yet of this merging pair of galaxies. As the two galaxies smash together, thousand of millions of stars are born, mostly in groups and clusters of stars. - images
the Black-Eye galaxy

the Cartwheel galaxy

the Sombrero galaxy

Triangulum

the Whirlpool galaxy

They named the appliances after this one if you go by the TV commercials shown in the Nineteen Sixties.
a ring galaxy
a polar ring galaxy

more IGT 101
basic concepts:
1. motivation - reasons to go2. macroengineering
3. mega-funding - We're not going to talk about this much at this lens except to say that we don't want tax money or any money from government or military.
4. all previous propulsion concepts are too slow.
motivation

Reasons to Go
1. There is, ultimately, only one reason to go. Because we want to.2. What if the survival of humanity depended upon being able to get out of The Milky Way before it's too late? We could not count on any alien civilizations letting us stowaway if they didn't have enough ships or ships with enough range for their own people. [included for the SETI crowd]
3. What if intergalactic travel made the human race filthy rich and no longer the poor relation among species in the Milky Way? What if we no longer had to put up with having citizens of Earth abducted to God-knows-where for unmentionable probes leaving family to wonder what happened to them? [included for the ufology crowd]
4. Historically, advances in transportation have always triggered progress for the average person. Do you think spices, citrus fruit, potatoes and other improvements in diet and health would have reached Europe without world-circling ships? Sure, centuries too late by older methods of transportation. [included for historians & history buffs]
5. Got a well-thought-out reason to travel beyond our galaxy? Post it here.
Growing pains: There is now a separate lens just for this topic.
Things You Can Do Right Now to Make It So
2. post something on this lens
3. tinker in your basement or garage workshop. Many times, engineers work at home before moving their work to big industrial labs.
4. got paper, pencil, blackboard, brain? That's all you need to do theoretical work.
5. design on your computer or other tools for 3-D modeling
6. organize
7. find a nation friendly to IGT research and development (the USA sure isn't)
8. donate something that would help this project (land, buildings, office equipment, your time)
9. volunteer your time
Technology Needed to Be Invented
1. TDCT - time dilation compensation2. inertia dampers
3. artificial gravity
4. FTL communications
5. tachyonics (electronics and positronics too slow)
6. faster supercomputers
7. new propulsion concepts - matter/antimatter annihilation too slow, we need to get above one billion celeritas
8. micrometeorite protection (probably the best way is a deflector shield / force field on the lead ship (a.k.a. plow ship variant of a galaxyship)
9. long-range sensors
10 cosmic ray protection
Critical Path Research
Prove the existence of tachyons. String theorists spend a lot of time swatting tachyons that keep cropping up everywhere they turn. Perhaps nature is trying to tell us something. Einstein never said we cannot travel faster than light. He only said we can't travel AT the speed of light. Which makes sense. To use an analogy, a plane speeding up to break the sound barrier goes through turbulence at the speed of sound. Once it breaks through to the supersonic range, it encounters no problems until it reaches the heat barrier at around Mach 5. So yes, Albert was warning us of turbulence at one celeritas just as other theorists warn us of a phase transition at around one billion celeritas. See? That wasn't so hard.Look for tardyons (slower than light particles), luxons (particles that only move at the speed of light) and tachyons. Yes, we know what the next problem is. One problem at a time. Patience!
things computer folk can do
Questions & Answers
In galaxyships, vessels for intergalactic travel.
How can the vast distances to other galaxies be conquered?
By higher speeds, specifically by using hyperluminal propulsion.
What is hyperluminal propulsion?
Any drive over one billion celeritas.
What is celeritas?
Just a technical way of saying lightspeed this, in turn is a shorter way of saying "times the speed of light."
Isn't the light barrier unbreakable?
Einstein's equations forbid travel at the speed of light--not slower or faster.
What if we succeed?
Historically, breakthroughs in transportation transform society and improve life. We could achieve maturity as a species.
What changes could occur?
The end of the age of the star child and the beginning of the Age of Galactic Man.
What if we fail?
We try again. Failure to even try will make us a Third World.
Shouldn't we explore the Milky Way before going on to other galaxies?
It isn't either/or. We do both. But go to an interstellar travel site if this is too rich for your blood. We're high octane here.
Is there extraterrestrial intelligence? (ETI)
Unknown.
What kinds of civilizations are possible?
Primitive or advanced.
If there is ETI, won't most species be conveniently at our level of progress like in most science fiction?
The odds do not favor any civilization being within a millennium more (immortals) or less advanced (Dark Ages) than us. A billion years less advanced (pre-apes) or more advanced (gods) than us is more likely.
What if advanced civilizations regard us as neither intelligent nor life forms?
History has answered that.
Would advanced civilizations abide by the principle of noninterference?
Technology and ethics seldom go together. Besides the idea of noninterference is a human concept. They wouldn't be human.
How can we prepare for first contact?
Proceed with the galaxy project.
If there is ETI, how long before first contact?
Unknown.
What kind of spacefaring race will we become?
An interplanetary culture, an interstellar civilization, or an intergalactic supercivilization. Not necessarily in that order.
What is supercivilization?
Outgrowing war and technological ability to travel between superclusters.
What's a supercluster?
Galaxies gather in multiplets, multiplets gather in groups, groups gather in clusters, clusters gather in clouds, and clouds gather in superclusters. We (the Milky Way) are in the Virgo Supercluster (our home). The nearest to us is known as the "Southern Supergalaxy" a name from the time in astronomy before the term supercluster was coined and in use.
Isn't intergalactic travel completely impossible?
Aerodynamically, bumblebees can't fly. Nor did God give us wings.
If it is possible, is it worth doing?
Yes, intergalactic travel is the key to our future both in mastering our destiny and in the quest to achieve supercivilization.
Why start now?
Because tomorrow never comes. If not now, when?
How will we do all this?
1. create an IGT society
2. create infrastructure
3. create the galaxy project
4. launch
In that order.
Isn't this utopian and therefore impossible?
One hundred (100%) percent perfection is difficult -- although quality control routinely achieves zero defects in many companies. And "pseudotopia" or ninety-nine (99%) percent is possible. We don't need to be perfect, just successful. And success is persistence of vision. Try and try again until we get it right.
How can progress be accelerated?
Motivation, participation by the best minds, better management tools, better engineering tools, money, and teamwork. The best book on accelerated progress is Mindsteps to the Cosmos by Gerald S. Hawkins.
What's in it for me?
It could make you smarter. And another byproduct of this project may be immortality. It will be fun. And when your grandchildren ask what did you do when you were younger, you will say smugly: "I opened a frontier, ended war, and gave humanity a whole new lease on life. What have you done?"
What do you mean by "the age of the star child" ?
If we are an immature species, is SETI a good idea?
Yes to passive SETI. We need to know who is out there. No to active SETI. Contact is a bad idea. They will either be more advanced than us or less advanced. The odds of them being at a 2010 AD level of advancement are statistically zero. If they are less advanced, then we will probably kill them with our communicable diseases and destroy their food sources and villages (as happened to the North American Indians and Hawaiians) or simply slaughter them and take their land for its natural resources (as the Brazilian whites are doing right this moment to Amazonians). If they are more advanced, then can we be so naive as to expect them to be "space brothers" or cuddly E.T. ? Even when we humans go into a place like Papua New Guinea with the best of intentions, chaos reigns. The sheer fact of different levels of technological advancement makes good people do bad things. If the ufologists are not on hallucinogenic drugs, then why do "space brothers" obsess on rectal probes? Are they too stupid ethically to know that we don't like being kidnapped and raped?
Let's go beyond a prime directive of noninterference. Avoidance of any intelligent life out there makes more sense. Maybe in a thousand years, when we have gotten sick of war and sworn it off, we can revisit the policy.
But for now, a good idea is explore the galaxies and don't kill or be killed.
Editor's note -- The Lifeboat Foundation has also sounded the alarm about irresponsible SETI scientists shouting at the universe in frustration over what they view as non-results. As any mature scientist knows, no results is as much information as getting the result you expected. It doesn't mean the universe is or isn't crowded. It may mean that other species have switched to FTL communication.
Glossary
Calisto - the logical place for a starport, starship building, and a transfer point for personnel headed out to the galaxyport. A colony here could also earn money to fund the project. Possibly more helium-2 than the lunar surface in Jupiter's upper atmosphere.coordination - as in it is better than lack of
countdown - in less than forty years
galactodesy - mathematics applied to intergalactic travel
galactonauts - travelers between galaxies. In addition to press junkets, morale tours, capcom, downrange stations, and chase pilot work; their critical work is training for shakedown cruises and the maiden voyage. When IGT becomes routine, they can become glorified bus drivers.
galactonautics - designing, building, and operating galaxyships
Galaxial Polytechnic - the school we need to start since nobody is teaching what we want to learn
galaxyport - in analogy to starports that dock starships between interstellar flights, this would serve long-haul intergalactic flights. Best location is probably in orbit around a satellite galaxy such as one of the Magellanics.
hyperluminal propulsion - it makes galaxyships move faster than one billion celeritas
infrastructure - utilities and heavy industry behind the scenes (or in plain sight) that makes all this possible. Examples of key elements: spacelift, a Deep Space Industrial Development Board, new materials, materials working (not just metalworking), astrionics shops, tachyonics shops, refineries (not the oil kind), cryostats, engine test stands, assembly plants, advanced pumps, wave guides, beyond fiber optic cables, advanced airlocks, advanced seals, advanced insulation, orbital tugs, space tankers, industrial mobilization, and macroengineering.
intergalactic medicine - space medicine as adapted to the needs of this project
leadership development - We need a champion and we need leaders with the IQ to take on the obstacles (government, NASA, military), challenges (megafunding, science, macroengineering, security, lack of easy access to orbit, motivation, etc.) and triumph.
macroengineering - the engineering of very large projects. In this case, city-sized robots may be employed in space to speed up work that might otherwise take centuries. Or, where appropriate, tredotechnology.
megafunding - We need to build massive trust funds to pay for all this. Sit down. You're about to have a heart attack. This is likely to cost more than trillions and more than quadrillions. Even with watching every penny and extreme efficiency. No one said all the challenges would be science and engineering. The finance people have their work cut out for them too.
mission - establish regular scheduled passenger flights between galaxies starting with the first pathfinder mission
navigation - new types of compasses and navigational aids
operations - training, management, flights, payloads, launches, simulators, evaluation, space medicine, space psychology, safety, research, purchasing, forecasting (so-called space weather), checklists, maintenance, testing, spare parts, logistical support, modifications, sequencing, timers, selection, qualification, applications, interviews, recruiting, standard operating procedures, system rules manuals, domestic spacelines (inside the Milky Way), onboard medical systems, flow charting, planning operations centers themselves, programming, and a new field called "passenger flow"
orbital complex - mostly a refueling stop between our ground staging areas and test areas in the Oort Cloud or Kuiper Belt or even further out.
port authority - some official body set up to build and operate the galaxyport from which we launch the first galaxyships
primes - prime contractors
propulsion - We're not going to list our concepts yet. It might preempt you and you might have a better idea. Which would be great! Let's hear your ideas first. Note: chemical rockets are too slow even for interstellar travel.
remote sensing - We'll need to send probes ahead and not the sublight kind. We'll need to build sensors not limited by the speed of light. Our view of galaxies in telescopes is how they used to look millions of years ago because light moves so slowly.
security - can't talk about it
spacelift - The ability to enter orbit at low cost now (not a million years from now) with very heavy payloads and without regulatory red tape. [Note: Do not bother us with rickety space elevator concepts.]
tredotechnology - robots several orders of magnitude smaller than nanobots that are used to build things at the sub-particle level. Perhaps a way of making pure neutronium or fabricating objects with tolerances impossible now.
book mentioned above
How long would it take to travel to Barnard's galaxy at light speed?
Pedestrian answer is at 1.7 million light years away, it will take 1.7 million years to travel to Barnard's galaxy at the speed of light. One way.
The photo is a close up of a detail in Barnard's galaxy.
Barnard's galaxy

a key concept: the central project
Examples include the pyramids of Egypt and the cathedrals of Europe.
Needless to say, a modern skyscraper, even the Petronas Towers or the now-destroyed World Trade Center, do not absorb the energies of anyone beyond the architects, engineers, and construction company. They are NOT central projects.
A good modern example would be the Apollo Project.
Then again, the Apollo Project did not absorb the energies of the entire society much less all of Western Civilization. Can you think of a better example?
goal setting
2027
history
The first effort to make progress in IGT research and development produced a lot of talk and no action. The second effort could not attract membership. So to those of you unaware that IGT even has a history please understand that we are meeting averse. Meetings tend to be a total waste of time. We also are picky about who is allowed to be a member. PhD's are preferred. If you are writing from prison because you have a lot of time on your hands, your mail will be fed to the shredder and ignored. If you are contacting us to tell us that this is a waste of taxpayer money, then we will have proof positive that you are stupid because above we clearly stated that we DO NOT WANT TAX money.Only professionals are welcome in doing project work. The supporting membership society is another story. Everyone from housewives to janitors is welcome in a Galactic Society. Hey, we're building a brighter future for everyone so why not include everyone?
But it is project work itself where we reserve the right to be highly selective.
One other historical note. If you come across articles such as Adrian Berry's reaming of Robert Page Burruss, then you may understand why we IGT folk are initially hostile and then ignore critics and kooks alike. The critics will never help. They will say it can't be done while others (us) do it. The kooks and crazies on the other hand will try to attach themselves to us like parasites and the project will suffer a predictable PR disaster when they embarrass us. Hence, the reason for our clannishness.
While we reject Burruss's travel slow approach, we honor him as one of our first inspirations. Leave the guy alone. For that matter, leave all of us IGT people alone to work in peace because peace (and not war) is ultimately what we seek.
Design

The image overstates it a bit but radical approach to design is warranted when it comes to designing galaxyships and their supporting infrastructure.
Rockets will not get us to any useful speed. Not even ion rockets. The US Air Force is studying antimatter for propulsion so we can begin to think about matter-antimatter annihilation as a propulsion strategy. But it won't be enough. Not by a long shot.
For the mathematicians and engineers, specific impulse will probably not be a useful concept when the assumptions themselves are called into question.
Think referential stasis. Think non-propellant based propulsion. Think MHD. Think beyond MHD. Think magnetic drives. Think gravity drives. Think fifth force of physics. Think about tachyons even though it drives string theorists up the wall. [Much more about tachyons in a future module] Think hyperluminal drive. Think above one billion celeritas.
Forget about anything below one billion times the speed of light because below that velocity, the galaxyship is essentially stopped dead in space drifting between galaxies on voyages of too long a duration for humans to suffer through. And we are not sending machines in our place. We are humans not gadgets. We must design ships for the comfort of people not robots. Voyages must never exceed ten years because beyond that we might go stir crazy with cabin fever. Sleeper ships would be expensive wastes of money because getting there should be half the fun.
Yes fun. We should not apologize for wanting space travel to be fun instead of an ordeal.
You're saying that sleeper ships could be put on autopilot. Our response to that is in the above paragraphs and the probability of hitting something in space en route. No. Live pilots and crew is the way to go.
Macroengineering
- Federal Policy and Macroengineering for Energy
- Box 15 Folder 1 Series III
Contents:
Arthur D. Little Inc., "Federal Policy and Macroengineering for Energy,"
April 1995
Done by Arthur D Little Inc., concerning federal policy, and in an inaccessible box. These are three reasons to avoid this report. - The Suez Canal Revisited
- Abstract:
In commemoration of the centenary of Ferdinand de Lesseps' death on 7 December 1894, an expanded version of the 1993 MIT BruneI Lecture delivered by Jean-Paul Calon is here reproduced. The benefits that humanity has derived from innovative large scale projects such as the Suez Canal - the product of Lesseps' imagination and perseverance - are affirmed and the technological progress born out of this massive constructional effort is reviewed. Finally, a plea is made for a more visionary and enlightened outlook among contemporary engineers in the light of several macroengineering projects that are ripe for development and exploitation. - Macroengineering in the Galactic Context: A New Agenda for Astrobiology
- Abstract: We consider the problem of detectability of macro-engineering projects over
interstellar distances, in the context of Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence (SETI).
Freeman J. Dyson and his imaginative precursors, like Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, Olaf
Stapledon or John B. S. Haldane, suggested macro-engineering projects as focal points in the
context of extrapolations about the future of humanity and, by analogy, other intelligent
species in the Milky Way. We emphasize that the search for signposts of extraterrestrial
macro-engineering projects is not an optional pursuit within the family of ongoing and
planned SETI projects; inter alia, the failure of the orthodox SETI thus far clearly indicates
this. Instead, this approach (for which we suggest a name of "Dysonian") should be the
front-line and mainstay of any cogent SETI strategy in future, being significantly more
promising than searches for directed, intentional radio or microwave emissions. This is in
accord with our improved astrophysical understanding of the structure and evolution of the
Galactic Habitable Zone, as well as with the recent wake-up call of Steven J. Dick to
investigate consequences of postbiological evolution for astrobiology in general and SETI
programs in particular. The benefits this multidisciplinary approach may bear for macroengineers
are also briefly highlighted. - Macroengineering in the Galactic Context: A New Agenda for Astrobiology
- We hereby consider the problem of detectability of macro-engineering projects over interstellar distances, in the context of Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence (SETI). Freeman J. Dyson and his imaginative precursors, like Konstantin Tsiolkovsky, Olaf Stapledon or John B. S. Haldane, suggested macro-engineering projects as focal points in the context of extrapolations about the future of humanity and, by analogy, other intelligent species in the Milky Way. We emphasize that the search for signposts of extraterrestrial macro-engineering projects is not an optional pursuit within the family of ongoing and planned SETI projects; inter alia, the failure of the orthodox SETI thus far clearly indicates this. Instead, this approach (for which we suggest a name of "Dysonian") should be the front-line and mainstay of any cogent SETI strategy in future, being significantly more promising than searches for directed, intentional radio or microwave emissions. This is in accord with our improved astrophysical understanding of the structure and evolution of the Galactic Habitable Zone, as well as with the recent wake-up call of Steven J. Dick to investigate consequences of postbiological evolution for astrobiology in general and SETI programs in particular. The benefits this multidisciplinary approach may bear for astrobiologists, evolutionary theorists and macro-engineers are also briefly highlighted.
- Macroengineering: Some Next Steps
- Russian citation. A lot of good work in the field is in Russian. You will have to hunt for this one.
- Macroengineering
- Considers the importance of macroengineering for the worlds future. How large-scale engineering
projects can help a growing, more industrialized human population; Technical and political
requirements. - macroengineering: mit brunel lectures on global infrastructure (horwood engineering science series)(2nd ed.), edition lavoisier
- published by Lavoisier
Macroengineering Books
galaxyship design
When you submit your design for galaxyships to this or any other IGT site, do not waste the time of others with sublight sleeper ships or generational ships. If you read the articles above, then you already know that we pretty much are not interested in anything going less than a billion times lightspeed.You are forewarned. So don't go whining that IGT folks don't suffer fools gladly because we don't.
By the way, the man standing is Syd Mead.
spaceship design
Therefore we include certain links for completeness only. Inclusion does not imply approval.
- Free spaceship design software Download - spaceship design software Files
- Free download spaceship design software Files at Software Informer - Sweet Home 3D 1.5 is a home interior design software. This interior design software is a very useful tool that allows modeling rooms with high detail and real dimensions. Even it offers 3D perspective view with great graphics, rota
- ShareMe - free Spaceship Design download
- free Spaceship Design software download
- Spaceship design Free Download
- Spaceship design Free Download,Spaceship design Software Collection Download
- So You Want to be a Speculative Spaceship Designer?
- DEFINING GUIDELINES FOR YOUR SPACESHIP DESIGN
- design a spaceship
- Get advice and support on how to design a spaceship, and other life goals.
- Spaceship designers admit science fiction inspires their work | The Website at the End of the Universe
- Building manned spacecraft isn't all rocket science. It requires expertise from many disciplines. For example, NASA has a group of industrial designers that are a small, but important, cog in their machine.
- concept ships
- There are legions of artists who like to dream up concepts for spaceships. One of the best sites to view amazing examples of spaceship concept art is Conceptships. The site bills itself as an online animated spaceship and experimental aircraft art magazine.
Builders
- Free Space Shuttle ?
- With 42 million, you can own a space shuttle that they spent billions on ? ? I'm not sure if I've read the articles correctly. NASA only stripped off one part of the space craft, nothing else is salvageable?
{This is an interesting discussion] - Free space ship building system Download - space ship building system Files
- Free download space ship building system Files at Software Informer - Harbinger is a simulation science fiction game that provides an intensive player experience influenced by the dark setting of a virtual planet-sized space ship's environments and futuristic characters personalities.
- is mercury used in the process of space ship building and astronomy? - Telescope Clearance.com
- Depends on what sort of space ship you are building.
- Glasgow engineers bring space ship building to the Clyde - University of Strathclyde
- Micro-satellites. Do we really have to crawl before we can walk or run?
We have to keep challenging accepted wisdom.
We may even need to let in a few people too focused to know that IGT can't be done -- who of course will do it because they aren't encumbered by negative thinking. - SAS Elite Forums
- Space ship building contest
Nov 5, 2010 ... OK, i think we should have a ship building competition!
[Yes, the Ansari X-Prize] - SPACE.com -- Showtime for Spaceship Builders
- Those caught in the whirlwind of the personal spaceflight business%uFFFDthe builders, shakers, dreamers and schemers%uFFFDwill be found this month at the Wirefly X Prize Cup, set for October 20-21 in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
- SPACE.com -- Scaled Composites Hiring Spaceship Builders
- Scaled Composites in Mojave, California is in the deep design stage of a fleet of commercial suborbital spaceships and launch aircraft. They are also in recruitment mode to find the right talent to build the commercial spaceships for the new industry of private spaceflight.
- Artemis Project: Spaceship Builders
- THE ARTEMIS PROJECT
PRIVATE ENTERPRISE ON THE MOON
Building spaceships is a job for professionals. A considerable number of professional spacecraft engineers are already
volunteering their time to get the Artemis Project off top dead center,
but when it comes to actually developing the spa - Building a Better Space Ship
- you would not want to build worse ships than what the human race already has
we need more modern transportation

otherwise our a-- mule or horse is up in the air because the wagon to the stars is too heavy
okay so maybe a truck won't work either

if we have to pass underneath bridges
and stop playing with the bubble wrap!

The stuff is no good if it is flat.
On a serious note, I am reminded by the bubble wrap of reading a science fiction story about really really advanced seat belts and airbags (actually passive restraint system) where the entire ship was designed to absorb shock and if it passed the breaking point (the ship hit a gas nebula at relativistic speed) then the ship was designed to break into pieces that were life boats and would re-assemble later. The passengers were automatically dropped beforehand into cushion pods within the lifeboats. Does anyone remember the name and author of the story? I forget.
not everybody wants to go to Andromeda
other galaxies may be better neighborhoods

but you get the idea.
(Their parents must be really worried about these two hitch-hiking without a guide to the galaxies)
What's The Point ?
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The Point is a site that is being explored as a place to, in their words, "make something happen." In going about the business of setting up an account to organize a campaign, several issues arise.
1. We don't have a treasurer or anyone we trust to handle money other than IGT society founders. Some IGT societies have included The Galactic Society (or TGS) and Galactic Society International (or GSI). We cannot drop their names because we don't have their permission. In the meantime, a CMA (certified management accountant) might be a solution but we have to pay them which we can't do since we haven't raised any money yet. Hence the need for a charter meeting to elect provisional officers including a treasurer. We can't really trust a CPA because unlike CMA's, CPA's can't keep a secret and they have a track record of absconding to places like Brazil. CMA's are private. CPA's are public. That's what the P in CPA means. Apologies to all the accountants I've offended. You should be more honest!
2. The Point doesn't have space as a category but there is always a first and they do allow for suggestions and technology is a category. Of course, huge parts of the IGT project are not technology hence the need to properly categorize ourselves.
3. The Point FAQ mentions credit cards and fees. Direct quotation:
"Are there any fees?
The Point takes 5% of each campaign to cover the credit card and administrative fees."
End quote.
Overall though in my humble opinion, the negatives are far outweighed by the positives.
What do you think of Google SketchUp ?
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Quotation from the site:
3D modeling for everyone
"SketchUp is the finest (and most innovative) tool available for anyone designing anything from coffee pots to skyscrapers."
- McCall & Associates
Before you ask, the above is not _THE_ Robert T. McCall.
Robert T. McCall, Space Artist, Dies at 90
By DOUGLAS MARTIN
Published: March 5, 2010 New York Times
Robert T. McCall, an artist whose fervor for space exploration found expression in his six-story-tall mural at the National Air and Space Museum and two postage stamps canceled on the Moon, died on Feb. 26 in Scottsdale, Ariz. He was 90.
[and he also did the iconic 2001: a space odyssey poster]
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- A fascinating lens, the Whirlpool galaxy looks amazing.
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- Whirlpool is a brand of major apppliances in many countries. Their television commercials used to feature the Whirlpool galaxy.
I am not sure what is going on technically with Squidoo but visitors used to be able to see very large images of galaxies that I put in this lens. I have not changed any settings so it is not me. At least I hope not.
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Academia.edu
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- Academia.edu - Follow research
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professional societies
Where to do research and development?
Australia -- it's got Outback, Cape York, and scramjet research at universities
Japan - pro-innovation people, companies and even government (despite those who say governments can't innovate)
Britain -
Germany - good engineers
China - secret police; millions of hackers eager to prove their patriotism by harassing dissidents, stealing secrets from foreigners and crashing their systems (so if we go dark you'll know it was them); and the Great Firewall of China. The government doesn't even deny the existence of it. They are moving from general censorship to targeting specific people. These are all reasons why we're getting out of the Milky Way. On the plus side, their architects design some really cool buildings. And despite hating cultural innovation, they like technical innovation. Overall, no balance.
Russia - ditto, a nation run by the KGB. On the plus side, Russians know how to get into space. They're better at it than ANYBODY else. They have launched rockets in blizzards.
USA - NASA stops a countdown for rain. Granted, Florida has more lightning strikes than Russia but still they look like pansies by comparison. Further, the USA never had a Concorde (unlike France) or a bullet train/TGV (unlike France). So why would anyone expect transportation innovation from a country that still has no mass-produced all-electric car? Japan has the Leaf and before it the Prius. GM ground up the EV-1 and the Chevy Volt can't climb a hill. And it catches on fire.
France - in addition to numerous strengths, France has a modern internet system
India - great engineers, mathematicians, scientists, and the list goes on. Infrastructure and security problems though.
We need a country that will encourage innovation but leave us in peace to do our R&D.
We don't need a country that will send in spies, steal our research, harass us and generally sour us on the human race. After all, we're humans ourselves. We just want a bright present, a brighter future, freedom, and evolution. Bureaucrats and backward religions fear evolution. (God forbid that humans should become better people less evil and less crazy and less stupid) That's why we need distance to grow as individuals and as a new civilization.
the "Bird Galaxy"

I don't see the resemblance but that's the name.
Bode's galaxy

Holmberg IX
a satellite of Bode's galaxy (M 81)

I know what you're thinking. No, not that line from Dirty Harry. You're thinking: Why waste space showing images of satellites other than satellites of the Milky Way? Because some of those satellites outside our multiplet are interesting in their own right.
The irregular dwarf galaxy Holmberg IX, a satellite of M 81, is visible almost only in ultraviolet light. This is, because it largely consists of young, hot, blue stars. Kids. What can you do with them?
When we get a better image of Holmberg IX, we'll show it.
the Cigar galaxy

complete with tobacco spit (oh gross!)
the Comet galaxy

It got the name because it looks like a comet.
Hoag's Object, a galaxy

Obviously a ring type of galaxy. You can even see a distant galaxy through the hole.
The Large Magellanic
the most notable satellite galaxy of the Milky Way

Mayall's Object, a galaxy

The Small Magellanic

and if somebody has an image of the third Magellanic (the Remnant), then we'll post it.
Sunflower galaxy

Tadpole galaxy

the Pinwheel galaxy

if anyone has an IMAX screen, there are 64 meg and larger images of this galaxy
the Sombrero galaxy
X-ray, optical and infra-red views
the Whirlpool galaxy
another view

pay attention
look past the Heart and Soul nebulae
visible near the bottom of this image are two galaxies, Maffei 1 and Maffei 2
Maffei 1

Maffei 2

Don't let the unimpressive images of this and Maffei 1 fool you. We have to look through the zone of avoidance just to see half the universe around us in every direction. The Zone of Avoidance (ZOA) is the area of the night sky that is obscured by our own galaxy, the Milky Way.
Maffei 1 and Maffei 2 are two of the biggest galaxies in the Local Group other than Andromeda. What else is hiding behind the blinding light of our galaxy's center? Projects to survey the Zone of Avoidance at radio wavelengths, particularly using the 21 cm spin-flip emission line of neutral atomic hydrogen (known in astronomical parlance as HI), have detected many galaxies that could not be detected in the infrared. Examples of galaxies detected from their HI emission include Dwingeloo 1 and Dwingeloo 2. (thanks Wikipedia)
"Willman 1"

Out at the extreme of what instruments can detect is this galaxy. You know it must be extreme magnification because about all we have is blurred pixels. It is the third dimmest galaxy known.
Obviously the dimmest must actually be a black galaxy giving zero optical light or maybe a galaxy consisting entirely of nebulae like the Coal Sack (dark dust clouds in space) which might be darker than black holes because black holes cause anything nearby to strain against their gravitational force -- which usually translates as light or radiation at some wavelength.
Willman 1 is a satellite of the Milky Way!
Wolf-Lundmark-Melotte

Wanted: Dead or Alive -- Komossa's Object
a galaxy
We don't have an image of Komossa's Object because we can't find one. Please somebody send us an image of it.
What makes Komossa's Object interesting? It is a galaxy that is ejecting its supermassive black hole. Any galaxy that can pull off that trick is worth a look. Whether by natural forces of astrophysics or by some extraterrestrial alien technology, the idea of kicking one of these unhealthy neighbors out is cool. No one wants to be sucked into a black hole -- let alone a supermassive black hole. (and ultramassive ones exist in the universe also).
finding tachyons
- Tachyon singularity: a spacelike counterpart of the Schwarzschild black hole
- serious experimental efforts toward finding tachyons are aimed at the elementary-particle level
- Tachyon behavior in theories with broken lorentz invariance
- the experiments in Ref. 4 would probably not have detected tachyons in case 2b, this kind of experiment may be the most prom ising approach for finding tachyons.
- Historical background of the Tachyon concept
- Up to now one has not succeeded in finding tachyons experimentally, and among theoretical physicists there are quite different opinions concerning the existence of tachyons.
[editor's note: Find tachyons and not only win a Nobel but be mentioned in the same breath as Newton and Einstein.] - Are there tachyons in extensive air showers?
- A number of experimental studies have been performed with the aim of discovering tachyons
- Integrating real-time and partial-order information in event-data displays
- The authors note the possibility of observing tachyons -- messages that travel backward in time.
Library of Conrgress

1. The physics of tachyons
Wall, Ernst L ( 1995 ) ( Book, Periodical, Manuscript )
Source: Library of Congress Online Catalog
2. A derivation of electro-weak theory based on an extension of special relativity, black hole tachyons & tachyons of any spin
Blaha, Stephen ( c2006 ) ( Book, Periodical, Manuscript )
Source: Library of Congress Online Catalog
3. Tachyons, monopoles, and related topics : proceedings of the first session of the interdisciplinary seminars on tachyons and related topics, Erice, 1-15 September, 1976
( 1978 ) ( Book, Periodical, Manuscript )
Source: Library of Congress Online Catalog
4. Physics beyond the light barrier : the source of parity violation, tachyons, and a derivation of standard model features
Blaha, Stephen ( c2007 ) ( Book, Periodical, Manuscript )
Source: Library of Congress Online Catalog
5. The tachyon and its fields
Kowalczyn%u0301ski, Jerzy Klemens ( 1996 ) ( Book, Periodical, Manuscript )
Source: Library of Congress Online Catalog
6. The web of space-time; a step-by-step exploration of relativity
Struble, Mitch ( [1973] ) ( Book, Periodical, Manuscript )
Source: Library of Congress Online Catalog
7. The reality of the future : an essay on time, causation, and backward causation
Faye, Jan ( c1989 ) ( Book, Periodical, Manuscript )
Source: Library of Congress Online Catalog
8. Cosmic rays at ground level
( [1973] ) ( Book, Periodical, Manuscript )
Source: Library of Congress Online Catalog
beta site
- intergalactic travel
- beta site
Who will sponsor us?
IBM built a trivia machine named Watson prompting Ken Jennings to write: "I for one welcome our new computer overlords." Not that funny. Google is building a driverless car prompting a Dodge Charger commercial to say: "We've seen that movie; it ends with robots harvesting our bodies for energy." Again, not that funny.
The IGT project will of course use AI and robotics to get galaxyships built. We'll use any tool that works. But our goal is not to serve machines. Our goal is human intergalactic travel. We'll use probes but space is for humans not machines. One can get only so excited watching robots explore Jupiter and Saturn. We want to go. Machines only serve to make our journey safer not to take our place.
Surely there are companies large or small that would sponsor the early phases of our research. We are NOT giving away the farm or giving away the store as the expression goes but industries like communications, energy, transportation, and computing (to name a few) will benefit by an association with us. Check with any physicist if you doubt that assertion.
The military will also benefit (no surprise there) which is a motivation to get out of the Milky Way before politicians blow it up in wars they foment between colonies and with aliens. I use the term aliens instead of extraterrestrials because once we colonize the Moon and Mars we humans are technically extraterrestrials in the strict sense of the word.
As anyone who has visited this lens before knows, it will be centuries before all of humanity gets war out of its collective conscious. As a subset of humanity, we IGT folk don't have the patience to wait centuries until the rest of the human race grows up and matures out of the juvenile need to kill. We could get vaporized or infected with some super-Ebola in the meantime. We want to leave war and crime behind by finding uninhabited unclaimed galaxies to colonize. And we want to do this yesterday.
finance

megafunding
NGO's
nonprofits
The Third Sector
trust funds
endowments
financial engineering
economics
accounting
If you prefer to cut a check . . .
. . . instead of donating time or talent, then please give a gift. please . . .
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CANDELS
Cosmic Assembly Deep Extragalactic Legacy Survey
galaxy cluster MACS 1206
A picture from the Hubble Space Telescope shows the galaxy cluster MACS 1206, which is 4.5 billion light-years from Earth. The cluster's gravity is powerful enough to visibly bend the path of light, somewhat like a magnifying glass.
{source of the following is Alan Boyle}
"Scientists are using funhouse images of faraway galaxies to learn how dark matter shaped the cosmos we see today. This picture from the Hubble Space Telescope, with the monster galaxy cluster MACS J1206.2-0847 (or MACS 1206 for short) at the center, illustrates how gravitational lenses can focus on phenomena that would otherwise go unseen.
Notice how a lot of the galaxies surrounding the central smudge of light have been distorted into thin arcs of light. That's due to the light-bending effect of the massive MACS 1206, as dictated by Einstein's general theory of relativity. Astronomers can do a careful analysis of those distortion effects to figure out just how massive the galaxy cluster is, and even where the mass is most concentrated.
Scientists have known for a long time that such galaxy clusters are much more massive than they thought they'd be, based on how much light they're giving out. The motions of galaxies suggest that visible matter makes up 15 percent or less of the universe's total mass. The rest of the stuff is the dark matter. It's not yet clear exactly what dark matter is, but scientists suspect it consists of exotic particles that don't interact much with the "ordinary" matter we all know and love.
MACS 1206, which lies 4.5 billion light-years from Earth, is one of 25 galaxy clusters that have been targeted by an effort known as the Cluster Lensing and Supernova Survey Using Hubble, or CLASH. So far, the effort has completed its observations for six of the clusters. By analyzing variations in the gravitational effects, the CLASH team hopes to map out how dark matter's effect has shaped galaxy clusters over time."
Arp 273
This image of a pair of interacting galaxies called Arp 273 was released to celebrate the 21st anniversary of the launch of the Hubble Space Telescope. The distorted shape of the larger of the two galaxies shows signs of tidal interactions with the smaller of the two. It is thought that the smaller galaxy has actually passed through the larger one.
No one has written a check yet
but the good news is that one funding proposal has been written and we are preparing a second one. It is just a matter of time . . .
. . . before something like this happens.
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