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Invisible bugs

Invisible biting bugs that infest your home and lives.
Although, I do not know what it was that was infesting our family, home and lives I'm sharing what we did to help get rid of them.
Freedom was NOT an over night thing or something quick and easy.
If none of the recommendations on this page help you it is my wish for you to never give up the fight.
You must pray for courage and strength and go into attack mode on this 21 century plauge.

Waking up to biting bugs

Turning on the lights and nothing is there

You are probably reading this because either you or someone you know is being attacked by invisible biting bugs.

They have probably thought it was going to go away on its own and they maybe even question if it is really even happening.

There are rashes and biting feeling and most likely a crawling feeling around the face, head and hairline.

Searching the internet doesn't seem to turn up too many answers only more questions that you hadn't really thought of until you read someone else asking them.

There are many products out there claiming that they can get rid of the mites but after trying a few and even high dollar products and regimes you begin to lose hope. The companies may even put you on a mailing list and send you emails that try and use terror to get you to order more products and in greater quantities.

My families healing came without ordering much of anything off line once we made a plan and stuck to it.

Initially we ordered a ton of online remedies but they were all a waste of time and money.

Please know you can and will feel better but you cannot give up hope.

Unable to find answers from my doctors or on the internet I went from trying frantically to get someone to believe me to the terror of never being able to rid myself and family of the mites and I fell right into a deep depression because I was helpless and at the mercy of some invisible mite I couldn't see.

Don't worry, I'll tell you exactly how I got rid of the invisible biting bugs.

Protocol we used to get rid of the mites

Bite-Mite Protocol

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Protocol I used to rid my family and myself of the invisible mite. I will not get into details of how this started or how doctors ignored us. I will tell you how I was able to rid my family of 5 (including myself) of these invisible biting mites.

1. Permethrin Cream:

Although Permethrin creams seemed pretty much useless in riding ourselves of the mites it did seem to help keep them off of us while we had it on. Sometimes the Permethrin Cream seemed to make the mites mad and they bit worse but eventually they died. We were able to use the Permethrin cream to get the mites off of my 5 and 6 year old children and luckily for us my mother was able to watch them and take them to school and pick them up from school for about 3-4 months while we worked at removing the mites from the house. We had the invisible mites for over 9 months in total. Every affected person you can remove from your environment is one less host for these things. Do not try to use the Permethrin Cream more often than prescribed. I did this trying to get a good nights sleep and woke up one night very sick I thought I was going to pass out and luckily made it to the shower. After I washed it off I felt better but still could feel the toxic effects.

2. Windex:

I realized that Windex original does kill the mites but you need to spray a lot. That being said you will need a respirator from hardware store that is used to spray pesticides. Spraying everything in our house seemed to bring the number of mites way down. The Windex did not stain our "off-white" carpet but please use caution when spraying it on light colored items of value. Use the Windex to spray out your cars, homes and work area where ever you work. When you spray your home get the ceilings, walls, floors and everywhere possible. I work in an office building and Windex does not look out of place in an office. I would spray my car as I exited since it isn't really safe to drive with a mask on and it can bother your eyes if you spray too heavily with the Windex and immediately enter the car to drive.

I did try spraying with Ammonia but the results were not half as good as Windex. Also, you need to be careful if you have just sprayed with bleach/water because the Ammonia-D in the Windex and the bleach will make some toxic fumes.

3. Listerine:

I found that spraying Original Listerine on me in the shower from a spray bottle helped to rinse the mites off and the crawling feeling would go away so I could get a good night of sleep and concentrate at work. The Listerine seems to bother them enough so they let go of you and rinse off with the water. If you have this you know regular showers with soap, water and shampoos do nothing to these things. I believe this may also help to wash off scents you are marked with or at least disrupt pheromone communication mites use. Spray the shower floor with Windex after showering because Listerine doesn't seem to kill them and the shower floor was covered with biting mites that were washed off of us but not killed. Spray your feet several times (while in the shower) because a lot of mites seem to try and hold on to your feet in a last ditch effort and you feet will become infested.

I would back away from the water and spray myself with the listerine and wait as long as I could and then rinse it off. The first times you do this it seems to burn so dilute it with water at first if need be but this was a big help. Also after a few days of sitting the spray bottle seems to weaken the Listerine strength.

4. Ivermectin:

After we started to use Ivermectin weekly we noticed big a big difference. Tell your doctor it is now considered a first line of defense in dealing with sarcoptic mites if they do not want to prescribe it.

5. Stop eating sugar or cut it way back if you have to ingest some.

I had read about people getting good results after they stopped eating sugar so I decided to give it a try. After about 2 to 3 days I noticed a big improvement and so did my wife. If possible start a Candida diet. These mites seem to be attracted to people with infections or fungus problems.

6. Work to improve your immune system.

Some people who have had problems with these invisible biting mites also are immunosuppressed. My 15 year old is on immunosuppressive drugs and I feel that also led us to have more problems to riding ourselves of the mite.

Get as much as sleep as possible these mites really disrupt sleep patterns.

Showering with Listerine (as mentioned above) right before bed seemed to help a lot. A washing section is below but sheets need to be washed daily and spray the bed a few times during the day with Windex. Don't spray your bed with Windex right before getting in bed spray the plastic cover a few times a day and wipe it off so you can hopefully get some good sleep.

Realize that these mites can be beat - my family and I are a living example.

So, try and relax and not build up the bugs in your mind. Stress is a big contributor of immune system problems
Take vitamins, exercise if possible, pray.
Find a discussion groups like the ones mentioned below and join in:

http://www.topix.com/forum/health/scabies

(even though these mites are not scabies this group of people will understand what you are going through. I learned all my cleaning methods there)

www.birdmites.org

There you will find a discussion group--join it.

Isolation is a big problem with these mites which leads to depression. You need to talk about issues with others don't keep it inside. I only found very few people who never had the problem who would listen to me. Most non-affected people make a joke about it or change the subject or offer simple useless advice because they don't really understand what is going on.

Post questions, or helpful hints below. You need to comminicate with others who understand even if we can't help.

Don't bottle it up.

7. Cleaning

I cleaned all surfaces possible with Windex; I tried sprinkling many different things in our carpets borax seemed to work the best also don't forget to sprinkle it in the car carpets. I mopped with 20 Mule borax and it made our hardwood floors look terrible but it gave us good results with the mites. You can buy it by the laundry detergent it is listed as a laundry booster. It helped a lot putting borax into my shoes as they would quickly get infested.

Bag dirty clothes in trash bags and seal them until you wash them. Wash clothes with bleach, detergent and 20 mule borax in every load. (Drying clothes for 2 hours didn't kill the mites and I was going to bed with the biting mites and getting no sleep) Try not to just drop the clothes out of the bag into the washing machine from a high distance allowing a gust of wind to come up, the mites will get on your face and head if you do this and bite you.
These things breed in dirty clothes and the biting after doing laundry was unbearable until I figured out the washing routine. Throw away used trash bags quickly do not reuse.

8. Bedding

Get dust mite mattress covers with a zipper and seal up your mattress. Spray it with Windex several times during the day and pull your bed away from the wall. Some people have to throw away their mattress and get an air mattress until the mites are gone. The air mattresses are easy to clean.

9. MSM cream

Make this yourself and you will have an effective product. 1 part MSM powered to 12 parts hand cream of your choice with a 1/2 teaspoon of tea tree oil. Microwave for 15 seconds and stir. Apply cream all over your body to dry out mites on your body and repel mites in your environment.

10. Ozone Generators
Ozone Generators have proven to be a great source of help to those who use them. I never actually used one but people who do use them see results rather quickly.

Use caution because you need to do certain areas of your home at a time and then air out the rooms because it is not good for you to breathe this.

I've placed one recommended by someone else below.

11. What didn't help for us?

Enzyme cleaners (Look for a guarantee on the natural Genesis site -- I could not find one. It might be there but it isn't easy to find) also peppermint sprays didn't help at all. Many people do get relief using Enzyme cleaners but since it cost 95 dollars and it did nothing for our mites I feel I should mention it was a waste of money. Some people could use the 95 dollars another way.

These products might work on bed bugs???

Online scabies and lice medicines did not help at all either.

Some companies that claim a very high percentage of success rate never called to see if their product worked for us. So, how can they claim a percentage if they never call people back to see if it worked?

Unless they just go by the return rate and "assume" that everybody that did not return the products are healed.

I did not write this to bash any companies it is only to help people find a solution to their nightmare.

Remember the healing will come but it is a slow process. I hope this helps others it is how we were able to get back to a normal life after almost 10 months of misery.

Keep Up the Fight

Also remember this is a long fight and there were no silver bullets for us even if the doctors could have identified the problem. Keep that in mind so you don't get discouraged. A lot of people feel that if they can just prove to the doctor they are suffering and it is not in their head then the doctors can give them a magic pill.

It would be nice if there was a "magic pill" but please don't get your hopes up.

God Bless you. I hope this will help other people and families.

I have placed links to the helpful items on Amazon

For convienence you can order here or if you are going to the store you now have a mental picture

Products to help you get rid of the invisible biting mites
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Making the MSM cream is easy

or you can just buy it

“ Some companies sell their own version but it is really expensive and made of the same ingredience. Add some tea tree oil on your own and save the money. Instructions are above in the Protocol bullet number 9.”
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Some people are getting great relief from turning the heat on the biting mites

Burn'em up

Some people are using propane heaters with much success to heat up their home and cars to above 130 Degrees for a few hours. You can hire someone to do this for you but it will be expensive.


I cannot be responsible for any damages if you decide to try this. In fact someone even posted that when they called a company to do this they were told that the company is not responsible if anything gets melted and the heat treatment would cost 10,000 dollars.


If you do this research before hand and think about the risks involved but know that you have made a good choice in getting back to a "normal" life.


The nice family that let me use their picture of a heat treatment method had good result in reducing the number of mites doing this.


Before the heat treatment the whole family which includes children and pets were getting attacked by mites.


Use caution because some people have melted plastic and vinyl in their houses.


You can find info on this at www.birdmites.org if you sign up for the yahoo news group.


Good luck heating.

If you are up all night and are terrified in your own home

Bring on the heat!!!!!!!!

If these bugs want to battle over who owns your home break out the big guns and show'em who is the boss.
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Recommended Websites

Topix website
Go to the cleaning section
Bird Mites
Great site about bird mites
Avianweb
A great site for bird owners and controling biting mites. Lots of great info.

For when you take a shower

Listerine anticeptic is great for getting mites off of you

Read the Protocol Bullet number 3 for bathing with Listerine tips
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If you have to drench your home in Windex to kill these things

I recommend these products

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Diatomaceous Earth (DE)

Kill bugs with out chemicals

Many people have used this product in living spaces to help get rid of bugs in their environment.
The duster will help to spread the DE in your environment.
Remember to at least use a dust mask when spreading the DE.
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  • Gaylestevenson Jun 1, 2012 @ 11:39 am | delete
    I have a friend who is 71. She got some pimples after using the Cherry MOM I suggested. The doctor said it was cancer and cut them out. One of the cuts left a raised scar, just like the one on my leg that I have been trying to get rid of for 3 months. She used Vicks every night for one week. I saw then and the scar was completely gone.

    I'm using it today all over for the first time. Yes, it stinks, but if it works, maybe I'll actually get totally rid of these things without killing myself.
    Gayle
  • Gaylestevenson Jun 1, 2012 @ 11:35 am | delete
    Here is the info I found on the internet for those who are interested. I was AMAZED.

    2 Kings 20:5
    Vicks 1890
    Vicks ingredients:
    Levomenthol ? solid white crystal, minty smell
    Eucalyptus Oil ? also in some mouthwashes, decongestant and inflammation relief
    Camphor ? from the camphor tree, 5% in Vicks, if swallowed, causes death
    Turpentine Oil ? from the pine tree, toxic if swallowed.
    Inactive ingredients:
    Cedar leaf, nutmeg oils, stearyl alcohol, laureth 7 from ethylene oxide, lauryl alcohol emulsifies, poloxamer 124 causes blending of solids and liquids in Vicks
    Petrolatum

    Japan is the only country where it is a former Procter & Gamble product before the product sold to Taisho Pharmaceutical in May 2002. In German speaking countries, the brandname Vicks was changed to Wick in order to avoid a sexual connotation that the original name would carry.
    1890 to 1985
    Dr. Joshua Vick of Greensboro, NC, started a retail business selling the ingredients mixed, called Vicks
    Lunsford Richardson took over the retail drug business at which time Dr. Vick saw an ad for Vick's Seeds and began calling his mixture Vicks
    Basic ingredients of the original vicks include the following: castor oil, liniment
    1891 Greensboro ? Croup and Pneumonia Salve
    1905 Vick's Magic Croup Salve
    1912 VapoRub because of Lunsford's oldest son, Smith Richardson, who became president in 1919 after his father died.
    1918 flu epidemic VapoRub sold $900,000 to $2.9 million in one year
    1948 Edward Mabry president of Vicks Chemical Company
    1985 Sold to Procter & Gamble motto ?The only thing more powerful than a mother's touch.?
    Vermifuge ? A medicine which expels intestinal worms or causing the expulsion of intestinal worms;
    Anthelmintic ? Anthelmintics or antihelminthics are drugs which expel parasitic worms (helminthes) from the body, by either stunning or killing them. They may also be called vermifuges (stunning) or vermicides (killing).
    From wikipeka:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vermifuge

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthelmintic
  • Gaylestevenson Jun 1, 2012 @ 11:33 am | delete
    Ladies and Gentlemen,
    I have a cure for you. I say "a" cure because there are many.
    This one has been under our noses since 1890 and it went totally over our heads. Grandma knows all about it. All we had to do was ask. VICKS
  • bentbill May 30, 2012 @ 3:44 am | delete
    Hi there,I have bin going over all the treatments I have tryed and found that if you KP 24 medicated foam in your hair and keep it wet add more foam etc
    after about 40 mins you will feel moverment big time I dont know if it killed them but pissed them of real bad.
    be carefull the KP 24 really dryes your skin out keep it off your ears.
    the piont to this is finding something that works in your hair seams the best way to kill them on mass.
    all the creams and lotions I have try on my body and in the house/washing don,t really seam to do much.
    cheers bentbill
  • Craig May 30, 2012 @ 5:00 am | delete
    benbill is the possibly a product only available in Australia? Ive never heard of it here in the states anyways. Does it have a list of ingredients? thanx
  • bentbill May 30, 2012 @ 6:38 am | delete
    yeah I think your right mate its 1% MALDISON and recomended 10/30 mins in your hair ,I used it much longer and keept it wet boy it pissed them of but not shoar if it killed them all droped there numbers dramaticly.
    be care full it drys your skin out.I am trying this new silicone based stuff called NYDA is a oil stops them from breathing see how it goes
    cheers bentbill
  • Craig May 30, 2012 @ 7:05 am | delete
    Thanx for the update, i dont know if you were around a while back when the mustard powder suggestion was made, but back then when i tried it, I was not overly impressed, mixture was 50/50 mustard powder to water. well i was going thru old bottles of this and that i had from things ive tried and decided to mix the mustard powder with the borax and peroxide method to see what if anything happened,. worked pretty well i thought. If you have some in the cupboard i say give it a shot, just be warned the mustard powder can burn you if not diluted enough for you personally. i imagine it must burn the mites, poor things.
  • bentbill May 30, 2012 @ 8:40 am | delete
    yeah I am hearing you my ears seam to be the most affected and back of the neck
    this new silicone based NYDA really pisses them of to ,spraying it on my legs just under my nee it blockes there air ways thay go mad
    I think its working but this one is Dimeticone there is a Cyclomthicone base one ass well
    cheers bentbill
  • craig May 30, 2012 @ 9:22 am | delete
    hey are the critters you seeing anything like the one in photo 057 here:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/optimumpestilence/?uploaded=1&magic_cookie=3ebcec84169d05ca4cdb12f02fece571
    its out of focus but best i can get, i need to move my lens from the webcam just a little more. these are what im getting out with the mustard/peroxide/borax mix. these dont come out as black specks either they are white. im lookin at the little red? thing at the tip in photo
  • Gaylestevenson May 30, 2012 @ 12:22 pm | delete
    MDC, This looks like Demodex folliculorum to me. See the eyes? And it has a long body. I was looking up Cheyletiella mites and the site said that sometimes they put out red dots. Glad this mustard worked for you.
    Gayle
  • Bugspray May 31, 2012 @ 11:28 am | delete
    Do you think a stand alone scope and slides would work to find cheyletiella mites? I only have an IPad now so would otherwise have to invest in a digital scope and cheap laptop. Also, I wasn't able to link to your flickr site, not too good with computers.
  • Craig May 31, 2012 @ 1:50 pm | delete
    you dont need much magnification, 100x is more than enough. If you have a webcam with a manual focus (where you turn the lens) you can unscrew that and then put it in backwards and voila instant microscope, or you can attach a webcam to your stand alone m icroscopes eyepiece.
    Craig
  • Bugspray Jun 1, 2012 @ 9:11 am | delete
    I'm sad to say I don't know what a webcam is. Do you think it pays to buy a regular scope and slides and use a lint roller to pick up stuff? Is there a hand held scope that doesn't need a computer attachment? How often are you taking the ivermectin and have you been taking it continuously? Are you just pouring and leaving on the borax, peroxide, mustard mixture? I had tried the mustard by itself and found it didn't work also. I found saline nasal gel around and in my nose worked a little there. I spoke to a pesticide supplier and he said he's been getting calls for 40 years from people trying to get rid of these things.
  • mtdewcougar Jun 1, 2012 @ 1:49 pm | delete
    as far as a microscope goes, it really depends on how much interest and money you want to invest. a good old fashioned microscope with decent lenses that doesnt hook up to a computer is probably what I would go with just for the price and quality aspects, something that magnifies somewhere between 45 and 200 would be a good range i would think. i know radio shack carries online a microscope/telescope combo for a really good price that ive been thinking about, but again these are far from professional quality, but seem pretty decent for the layman and children. I think its around 45 for the combo. there is also handheld scopes which hook up to the computer and some that dont, i dont know much about those, but I like the proscope and have been looking for one of those at a decent price. you dont need a scope just for these bugs, in fact it might be a burden if you are easily depressed. lol but anyways..
    for the ivermectin i used these protocols: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1586882
    they seemed to work pretty good for me.
    i put the borax peroxide mustard mix in a sprayer and i just spray it on and leave it on, its got to be mustard powder and i just added the mustard powder till it started to hurt a little on sensitive areas, then added more peroxide/borax so not to burn. i have to say i am totally blown away at how well this is working to get stuff out. I thought i was cured of these mites, no itching anymore anyways, well after using this mixture (yesterday) i got a half inch "hair" looking thing out of my knee that scares me under the microscope, and also a 1/2 inch piece of what almost looks like a serrated piece of grass ( that really scares me under the scope) out of my forehead. also tons of little goobers and black specks. my skin looks pale after using it like all of my tan is gone, but its soft and smoother now. I also mixed a little of this solution into a oatmeal lotion i bought and use it more often in the lotion than alone, seems to work better because it doesnt evaporate so quickly.
    I have heard similar stories from different people regarding these mites, i think a lot of the problem is bird/rodent mites, as well as demodex mites. Also I think that it is fairly easy to kill them on us, but hard to kill them in our environment so reinfesting is large role in this once youve been pheremone marked (also why only some in a household can be affected). well hope answered all your questions ok? lol
    best wishes
    Craig
  • Gaylestevenson May 30, 2012 @ 5:40 pm | delete
    Bentbill, Maybe using a less toxic product might be just as well. These mites are deep in side you. Let them come out and kill them with tea tree mixed with oil or medicated cream or mouthwash. I can feel them coming out on my face and getting around my eyes, nose and mouth. When I do, I use vicks or a medicated cream. They will all come out but they may take time.
    I guess I worried that you are putting these toxins on your skin. Be careful and be patient with your body.
    Gayle
  • bentbill May 31, 2012 @ 8:07 am | delete
    Hi gayle the KP 24 is just head lice treatment very safe but I am looking for some way to kill the little buggers and using stuff like this for longer than recomened is were I am up to .
    ok the real aim hear is to find things that work and ways to kill the biggest numbers I can the KP 24 showed me there are hundreds still in my hair ok this new silicone based treatment is mechanicl it blokes the air ways is really safe to use the brand MOOV seams the best so far.
    this is sold in Australia its new and it works just started using it today seams to be ideal will keep you posted.
  • Gaylestevenson May 31, 2012 @ 1:24 pm | delete
    Hey Bentbill, Have you tried the Advocate. I get it from VitalsPets, down the street from you, in Australia, without a prescription. Enough for 75kg would be enough to get started and try it. I will tell you, I still have mites coming from my ears and have them in my feet and legs a lot.

    I know you have Ammonia there. The smell is very strong, but it kills them on contact. I use a Q-tip for my ears and only the left ear hurts. I think there is a very big nest in there. Today, I noticed my contacts were blurring, so I put them in Ammonia and decided to try it around my eyes. I got a Q-tip and rubbed the Ammonia around my eyes. The first time, it burned all over. The second time, it burned only near the lashes. The third time, it didn't hurt at all.

    I got a pimple yesterday and put some ammonia on a tissue and put it on the pimple. It burned for about a minute and got very small right away.

    I used lemon juice in my hair and left it on for 30 min with a plastic cover on my head before I washed it with regular shampoo. Vinegar would work as well. The mites hate vinegar. I have heard many say tea tree oil in shampoo gets rid of them in the hair as well.
    Yes, do keep us posted. Thanks, Gayle
  • Brenda May 31, 2012 @ 3:22 pm | delete
    are you talking about ammonia that you can buy like at walmart for like cleaning ? if so is that really safe to put in the ears and the eyes? and you put the q tip in your eye or only on the outside of your eye to kill them ?
    lemon juice from the bottle or fresh lemon sqeezed on to your hair??
  • Gaylestevenson May 31, 2012 @ 5:09 pm | delete
    Yeah, ammonia. I know it sounds crazy, but I use it on my contacts. I don't leave them in it more than a minute. I rinse them with water and solution and put them back in.

    I used the Q-tip to put it on the skin around the eyes. When I had "pink eye" after treating for mites, I did dip my finger in the ammonia and put my finger on the rim of my eyes 2 to three times. It did not hurt. I was amazed. The redness went down almost immediately. I figured the mites caused the eyes to become red. One was extremely red over night. Later, before I had to go somewhere, I put eye drops in and they burned. Ammonia is one of the things people use, but the smell is so strong, I don't like using it. It's like windex with too much smell.

    Plain lemon juice from the bottle. Warning: It did lighten my hair some. I like dark hair so I did wash it out really well, but the bleach from the bleach baths had made it like wig hair and it was ruined. I thought I'd have to cut it all off. It's half way down my back, but the lemon juice restored it to a normal soft texture. Either the bleach or the lemon lightened it. I don't know. But it is normal now and the mites were greatly decreased by using the lemon juice and not the bleach bath water in my hair.
  • Brenda May 31, 2012 @ 3:23 pm | delete
    are you talking about ammonia that you can buy like at walmart for like cleaning ? if so is that really safe to put in the ears and the eyes? and you put the q tip in your eye or only on the outside of your eye to kill them ?
    lemon juice from the bottle or fresh lemon sqeezed on to your hair??
  • Gaylestevenson May 31, 2012 @ 5:11 pm | delete
    The ammonia only hurt the left ear, where I think I have a nest. The right ear did not hurt at all. There are still mites coming from my left ear after 6 months of knowing about this condition.
  • bentbill May 31, 2012 @ 11:08 pm | delete
    Hi there Gayle Dont put ammonia on yourself it needs to be washed of its the main ingredent in windex and leaving it on your skin will give you crammping and pain .
    I used ivermectin with some good affects but the cost was high so just head down to your local farmer barn buy a tube of horse Equimec its good for a 600kg hores Iam 110 kg so I get 5 dosages out of a tube for $14 cheap ay.
    now get on the net look up MOOV head lice solution I can buy it of the shelf hear.
    do your hair and then your legs from the nee down leave it on walk round your house let them get on you ,after about hour or so wash it of .
    this is working for me even after hours it still gooee ans still kills then .
    your ears well I use apple cider vinegar 50/50 with water and a bit of borax in it let it run down inside your ear then leave it gets them out.
    cheers bentbill
  • mtdewcougar Jun 1, 2012 @ 1:25 am | delete
    i Gotta agree with bentbil, the ivermectin does seem to help quite a bit, I ordered mine from cal vet supply for $4.99 plus 3.99 for shipping and got it in three days from time or order, I weigh like 170#s or 77kg so mine worked out to 7 doses so its pretty cheap this wa. the brand bentbil said is good as it is 100% ivermectin as well as a few other brands like vetrimec (i have a list ofones that are 100% pure, just ask if needed). i dont think the MOOV is available here, but im having great results with the borax/peroxide mix with some mustard powder added, it also will have residual kill affects like the MOOV. I checked the msds on amonia, and really it is nothing good. =-)
    bentbil have you ever tried just rubbing alcohol in your ears? it also seems to help really well.
    Peace
    Craig
  • bentbill Jun 1, 2012 @ 4:01 am | delete
    Hi Craig mate how strong is the peroxide 1% or 3% I havent tryed it with mustard but did the 1% with borax keen to see how the muster goes.
    MOOV is made hear in Australia sydney but they dont seam to sell it online yet
    I found this wright up and the lady at the Pharmacy give it 10/10

    www.techconsult.com.au/TCS%20Downloads/research+sept+07.pdf

    keep you posted on how I go
    cheers bentbill
  • mtdewcougar Jun 1, 2012 @ 4:36 am | delete
    Hey that MCOV sounds pretty good, like the fact its herbal based dont like the fact its in Australia only. lol..
    I diluted down 3% peroxide to 1% peroxide, added borax till saturation. I guess peroxide acts as a penetrant and helps to get the borax deeper into our skin and to the mites. I read it works as a penetrant as well in apple cider vinegar..google 'ted from bangkok" and you'll see some of his recommendations. Im still itch free, about 3 months now,(i think), but still getting the specks out of my skin, just not as many. feel pretty good but fearful it will return. lol took another dose of ivermectin today just as a precautionary "pre-emptive attack" (as we in the U.S seem to like to do now adays haha) really hope you kick this soon, even itching once a week was such a relief, but glad its gone now!
  • bentbill Jun 1, 2012 @ 7:53 am | delete
    sounds like MOOV is only new on the market the pharmacy I use was out of the Solution one today got the shampoo instead went to 2 more pharmacys and got the last box of solution on the shelf
    the brand name is EGO product name MOOV
    its full of eucalyptus oil very oilie and seams to kill them in mins when first applyed but as it drys it just slows them down .
    now the first silicone based oil product I tryed was NYDA it instantly pissed the of and thay go mental on contact with it but I dont think it was killing them in big numbers
    the KP24 took ages to piss them off but the moverment on my head was f### unreal I noticed but thay wood jump of you only to jump back on and bite my legs again
    cheers bentbill
  • mtdewcougar Jun 1, 2012 @ 8:02 am | delete
    you should get some cinnamon oil, clove oil and peppermint oil to use after these treatments, they are all oils that repell mites. might help a little just make sure to dilute
  • bentbill Jun 1, 2012 @ 8:36 am | delete
    neem oil mate the egyptains used neem oil for this sort of thing hundreds of years ago I have bin using it in my shower gel for some time now just got a new batch sprayed the house with it .
    its like borax it helps does not kill them but ,about 3or 4 years ago the docs recone I had dry skin I recone dry skin wood not be running round under my shirt so neem oil got a go with good results
    not working now but if you havent tryed neem oil yet give it a go.
    you can buy it on ebay and it shore helped may be it will give you that edge you need.
    cheers bentbill
  • mtdewcougar Jun 1, 2012 @ 9:01 am | delete
    alright so im lookin on ebay and there is many types some are 10 bucks for a gallon some are 10 bucks for an ounce...which kind do i need ?
  • bentbill Jun 1, 2012 @ 1:01 pm | delete
    cold pressed neem oil is the best it will be solid below about 25c never heat it up just warm it to about 30c add it to show gel or a carrier oil
    never use it undiluted on your skin most dealers will send a leaf let with it or you can buy it premixed in spray bottles.
    google it

    cheers bentbill
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