Is Ebay Becoming too Greedy and too Difficult for Small Sellers?

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Is Ebay Becoming too Greedy and too Difficult for Small Sellers?

I've been selling on a small scale on ebay for about 4 years now. I used to see all the complaints from ebay sellers back when I started selling and I didn't understand what the fuss was over. Now that I've been through several years of pro-buyer policy changes and pro ebay fee changes I'm starting to see the problem.

I love the idea behind ebay: a place where anyone can go to sell merchandise with a feedback system and a dispute process to protect everyone. In theory it should be a level playing field for both seller and buyer alike with equal risk for both.

Instead ebay does little to protect honest and trustworthy small sellers. The last several years have seen ridiculous policy changes that are far too biased and one-sided. All the policies seem to protect buyers and actually make things much more difficult for us honest sellers. We have to deal with malicious buyers who want to abuse the feedback and "item not as described" dispute processes. Malicious and dishonest buyers can easily use negative feedback and poor detailed seller rating scores to hold honest small ebay sellers hostage. While I certainly understand the importance of buyer protection policies, ebay is focusing far too much on this topic and creating a hostile and alienating environment for its sellers.

As if the pro-buyer biased policies and dispute process weren't enough, ebay continually raises fees. The latest change has basically resulted in ebay not double, but triple dipping into what slim profits remain for small sellers. Ebay now charges a final value fee based on the the total transaction amount. In other words...ebay now charges sellers a final value fee on the shipping charges they collect from the customer. I understand this is intended to prevent sellers from hiding profits in their shipping charges by over charging for shipping. Unfortunately this new fee policy does nothing but hurt the honest seller once again. Many sellers, like me, simply pass the exact cost of shipping on to the customer. Now ebay takes a percentage of the money the buyer pays me to cover the exact shipping charges. This means I either have to raise prices, which in turn just means ebay will take more, or I eat a small loss on shipping charges now on top of all the other ways ebay manages to snatch profits.

Consider the typical listing process. You want to list a product. Of course you need to pay a listing fee. Not so bad right? Do you want a subtitle for your listing? That will cost extra. Do you need a bold title? Extra. Will you need more than 1 photo? That's gonna cost you more too. How about a gallery view so you can offer larger images in search results? We'll just tack on a fee for that too. Oh you want your listing to run a few days longer? That's another fee.

Now that your item is listed you can take a breather. I guess that wasn't so bad right? I mean after all, many of those listing fees were optional expenses you could simply say "no thanks" to. (That is unless you are competing with any other motivated higher volume sellers).

If you are lucky enough to sell your item the real fun starts. Your customer pays you the final bid amount/listed price plus shipping charges. Of course there will be a final value fee based on the total transaction amount. At least your ebay fees are done right? Not so fast! That customer of yours probably paid via PayPal, right? Well PayPal just so happens to be owned by none other than ebay and guess what? Paypal has to charge you a fee yet too. So kiss another 2.9% plus $.30 goodbye.

Don't get me wrong here. I totally understand ebay needs to make a profit. I realize ebay gets my products in front of a great number of visitors each and every day. I have no problem paying for services rendered. I just ask, when is enough enough? I recently did some calculations and discovered I'm losing, on average, 17-18% of my profits to ebay. Pretty scary considering I don't even take advantage of most of ebay's optional upgraded listing fees.

Things are getting to the point where small sellers like me will be forced out because we are continually caught in a vicious cycle caused by ebay greed. Ebay raises fees so we are forced to pass those fee increases on to our customers. So we charge more. That results in reduced sales and less satisfied customers because we raised prices. After we raise prices that means ebay gets to take slightly more based on the increased final value fee and the cycle continues.

Now It's YOUR Turn!

What do you think? Voice your opinion below!

WHAT IS YOUR OPINION OF EBAY'S FEES? NOW IT'S YOUR TURN!

What do you think about ebay's fees?

Now It's YOUR turn! What do you think?

Are ebay's increasing fees a hindrance to the little guy? Are its increasingly one-sided and buyer-biased policies making it harder for sellers?

Leave you opinion below. Don't worry, you don't even need to be a squidoo member to join in on the argument!

Is Ebay Becoming too Greedy? Are ebay fees becoming too overwhelming for smaller sellers?

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You're darn right!

TheLifestyleChanger says:

I am so pleased to come across this lens. I have found out I am not alone!

Believed I could work productively says:

Too bad their new policy downgrading their sellers who don't turn items around within one day of order will result in the consumption of more fuel in trips to post offices and also a penalization of their disabled and part-time sellers who need the time to get orders out. I have lost years of work because of this as I can no longer compete in their market place as a low volume seller of quality hand made items. Despite years of work and 100% feedback, they don't want me any more in order to serve their stockholders and people in need of "instant gratification."

smallseller in ebay says:

yes, very agreed very much.

angry wife says:

My husband had years worth of positive reviews - one bad review from a buyer who straight out lied now has us locked down on fund availability and he lost preferred seller status. We wrote ebay with a detailed description of how her statements on feedback did not match the documented facts - got back an automated email saying to call them. Their option for disputing a buyer feedback does not include being able to prove the buyer lied. Buyer has to swear or threaten - apparently lies are okay. Its really screwy, and were there another viable option, we would go with it. Eventually there will be - the big mistake businesses with a monopoly always make. They get so powerful they think they can get away with anything, then a good competitor comes along and gives them some competition. Ebay really just needs good competition.

Terry says:

I too have been using Ebay for many years and have had several unpleasant issues such as being totally defrauded by a seller and I had to eat $550. Yes the fees are passing sensible levels,but, lets keep in mind where we are and the driving business creedo in our country "screw everyone you can for as much as you can" it is just good Capitalism, it is what our great nation is founded on after all. Our generation has to deal with Corporations gone wild and competing for as much of our money as possible with little resistance from the "purchased" legislators.

martin says:

You forgot to mention payment holds for up to 21 days. I had 1 bad feedback and ebay or paypal put payment holds on. 35 days later when there was £500 in the account they lifted the payment hold. I then withdrew to my bank and 7 days later I am back in the payment clamp. Seems they want to punish you for using your money and not leaving it to make money for them. I to want to migrate to a less greedy site. We all need to do this en-block. We need only one place to market our goods otherwise it will not work. That is why ebay is so good it has no competition it is a virtual monopoly.

We all need to move together to a new site and hope they dont get greedy. I am sure if we all like minded people pooled our money with a national advertising campaign we could kill ebay overnight. Now would'nt that be satisfying.

BlueDunDan says:

darn right is darn right, i could rant on about fee-bay for hours.

Blessedmombygrace says:

I agree. I occasionally dabble in selling things on ebay, but after not selling for a while, I noticed the fee on shipping. I usually charge exact shipping, but now will be raising shipping fees which in turn cuts down sales for the little guy like me. I guess I'll just be donating those little things for a tax break instead of ebaying them.

ClinicallySignificantProductions says:

Yes. Unfortunately I feel ebay's constantly increasing existing fees and new fees are becoming overwhelming for small sellers. Smaller sellers generally like to keep prices low to drive sales and keep buyers happy. Losing 17% or more of already slim profits to ebay fees doesn't leave much meat on the bone for many ebay sellers.

I fear if ebay keeps making fee changes it will drive most smaller sellers right out of business. It simply doesn't make sense to be forced to jump through all the additional hoops ebay's policies makes sellers jump through to please buyers. We honest sellers work our butts off to provide fast shipping, fair prices, and great customer service. We continue to work harder for less profit and less recourse for those rare buyers who simply won't be pleased with anything less than keeping an item without paying for it.

I truly hope ebay listens to the voice of the majority and starts making changes to fees that benefit both large and small sellers while still allowing ebay to enjoy a profit.

No way, Monkeybrain! I don't have a problem with ebay's current fees.

OccasionalEBaySeller says:

Ebay only works if you sell items for at least $9.99 and average more than $7 profit per item. Anything less is not worth your time at all.

Business everywhere is constantly changing and fee increases are part of life.

If you sold on your own website you would pay advertising fees; if you sell at a tradeshow or flea market you have to pay a fee to sell there.

eBay trains you on how the REAL business world runs...you always have to pay somebody more later.

 

What's YOUR Opinion About Ebay's Policies?

Are ebay policies too biased and one sided?

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TheLifestyleChanger says:

eBay policies are ridiculously in favour of the buyer with little if any recourse for the seller in disputes.

Evan says:

Yes, they very much are. It is quite obvious they favor the buyer and ignore the seller for the most part, unless of course they're raising fees for the latter and adding new ones. We all know everyone has to make a profit in order for business to run smoothly but as far as eBay is concerned the only ones who should be making the real profits are themselves. I remember when this site used to be very user friendly for both parties and you could buy something with ease or sell something for a small fee and that was the end of it. Like most other businesses these days they are simply become overrun with greed and are trying to get to the point where their profit yields them everything while the actual seller is lucky to even break even. It's a shame and complete crap but considering eBay arguably as a monopoly on this kind of thing they can pretty much do whatever they want and get away with it. Amazon and craigslist are the only real alternatives and neither are true competitors with them.

BlueDunDan says:

ya have to take care of the buyers, but you should take care of the QUALITY sellers as well.

BlueDunDan says:

way to harsh on sellers. i am an honest guy and honest seller. fee-bay just gives away my stuff and my money. i know there are some sellers that are not as honest in their sales but punish them not me!

Blessedmombygrace says:

Definitely favor the buyer.

Nah...I think there is a level playing field for both buyers and sellers on ebay.

 
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