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What do you think of Krishnamurti? either one...

From the lens Krishnamurti : Jiddu & U.G..

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  • Oshobullshaite Apr 11, 2012 @ 10:46 am | delete
    Jiddu isn't really an "anti-guru" since he toured, and charged money for the many lectures he did. His books are copyrighted. UG explicitely renounced for any copyright to his words, and didn't give 'lectures'. He just had an "open door" policy where anybody could just meet him and talk with him!! He never wrote any book by the way, all books out there are interviews or transcripts of conversations with UG.

    To say that both Krishnamurti's philosophies are "similar" is not so true. Jiddu was an intellectual, a philosopher (and an obsessive one at that), while UG was practically an indian Diogenes of Sinope...

    As for OSHO, that one was a humbug, a real phony. The junk food of spirituality.
  • Manish Pandit Mar 17, 2012 @ 2:48 pm | delete
    UG was a great thinker.
  • nevermind Jan 19, 2012 @ 2:36 pm | delete
    One thing that amazes me in both Krishanmurtis is that they never got tired of repeating the same things millions of times. If you read the unedited transcripts of Krishnamurti's last talks, the amount of repetition is striking. With U.G., the repetition almost makes it seem like he's insane! And yet, people often felt some kind of freshness in their speech, even after decades of listening.
  • onthespot Mar 16, 2011 @ 9:04 pm | delete
    At the core of it, U G's teaching is a copy of Jiddu's. Smart U G practiced it and kept contradicting everything so that his point of view (to negate all points of views) appeals to those logically inclined. And lo there is ample evidence it clicked.
  • tango Dec 29, 2010 @ 12:28 pm | delete
    Osho: the other day I was reading a lecture of U. G. Krishnamurti. He says he went to see Ramana Maharshi. He was not attracted - because he was chopping vegetables. Yes, Ramana Maharshi was that kind of man, very ordinary. Chopping vegetables! U. G. Krishnamurti must have gone to see somebody extraordinary sitting on a golden throne or something. Ramana Maharshi just sitting on the floor and chopping vegetables? preparing vegetables for the kitchen! He was very much frustrated. Then another day he went and saw him reading jokes. Finished for ever! This man knows nothing. This man is very ordinary. He left the ashram; it was not worth it. But I would like to say to you: this man, Ramana Maharshi, is one of the greatest Buddhas ever born to the world. That was his Buddhahood in action! U. G. Krishnamurti must have been in search of a pretender. He could not see the ordinariness and the beauty of it and the grace of it. And this same man, U. G. Krishnamurti, lived with Swami Sivanand of Rishikesh for seven years - and that chap was just stupid - and practised yoga with him. And after seven years he recognized that he has nothing; but after seven years, he took seven years. That simply shows that he also has a mighty dull mind. Seven years to see that Sivanand has nothing. Seven seconds are more than enough! And with Ramana Maharshi, seven seconds were enough - because he saw him chopping vegetables or reading jokes, looking at cartoons. That's how the ordinary mind, the egoistic mind functions. The ego is always searching for something bigger, some bigger ego. And the true sage has no ego; he is an ordinary man. He is utterly ordinary - that is his extraordinariness! I would like to say to U. G. Krishnamurti: he should have looked in the eyes of Ramana Maharshi. He looked only at the hands which were chopping vegetables. He should have looked into his eyes - with what love he was chopping the vegetables. He should have looked into his eyes to see what love he was. He was the Real Man. There is only one indication and that is love. But to understand love you have to be a little silent, a little loving, a little open. If you are full of prejudices about how the enlightened man should be, then you will go on missing. You should not have any prejudices. Just look into the eyes of a real man, and suddenly something will start stirring in your heart too. Tears will come to your eyes, your energy will have a great delight, your heart will throb with new vigour. Your soul will spread its wings.
  • Fergus Feb 20, 2011 @ 9:40 pm | delete
    Have I recently looked into the eyes of the person sitting next to you in the bus just as he/she would have been Ramana Maharshi? How is that person any different from Ramana Maharshi? This is what you should ask yourself. Here, you judge U.G., but there is nothing in U.G. that means anything to you.
  • Samuel May 27, 2011 @ 1:31 pm | delete
    Osho was a liar, as UG well said, 'the biggest pimp ever', and such a commentary is false, of course. UG in fact appreciated when he saw that Ramana was chopping vegetables and doing all those so-called 'ordinary' things, and what made him furious was that the guy told him "I have it ('enlightenment'), but can you take it?", that was an insult to UG who was pondering: 'what is it that the bastard have that I don't? Why the hell he thinks he is something extraordinary, different from any other being?", then UG left and never listen to any of those bastards any more. Got it? Osho was a liar, a pimp, a filthy bastard, why the hell can you fall for his trap? Well, that's it.
  • Hollandale Oct 16, 2010 @ 7:00 pm | delete
    Jiddu, seems unbiased, a student of his own teachings. When I listen, I search myself, and I see truth. That's all that is important. I have no need.
  • Skelter Sep 26, 2010 @ 7:35 pm | delete
    don't have a glue*
  • Skelter Sep 26, 2010 @ 7:32 pm | delete
    UG was honest, really lived his own message, for real. Jiddu was a phony and this is the reason why UG stopped being related to him and the whole spiritual rubbish and thus had what he called "calamity" (we wait for something blissful, amazing, but it's pain and shatter you in pieces because it's the discovering by yourself, for yourself, that there's no self to realize, this is the opposite of what spiritual people wait for). If people read and listen to the things UG tell about Jiddu, denouncing him, they'll see that there's nothing to Jiddu and the whole gang at all, to use UG's own terms. All of them - from the past, living in the present and yet to be born, without an exception - are phony, they conned themselves and conned us all. Jiddu not even stopped being a guru even after supposedly have dismantled his organization (what was another lie), he never was honest, not even with himself. Jiddu used to sleep with the wife of his own best friend, forced her to have many abortions in order to cover up his true face, and many other things totally opposed to what he preached a lot everywhere. UG was honest and the only true one ever. UG was a true anti-guru, Jiddu was never a true guru, much less an anti-guru. Jiddu was a phony bastard. People like that Peeved bellow don't gave a glue about what they're saying, those brainwashed douchebags.
  • ShawnMichel Sep 20, 2008 @ 10:38 pm | delete
    Truth is a pathless land. So treating these two as though they are bringers of truth is necessarily in error.

    That said, I believe both had something insightful to say to us all.
  • Jesus Aug 15, 2008 @ 2:14 pm | delete
    Both of them were hit by something behond our imagination, something that we can not speak about nor understand within our limited perspective. They were not the only ones, it is just evolution. They both became a truly human being.
  • Peeved Jul 23, 2008 @ 3:09 am | delete
    What an inapproriate comparison. JK was a spiritual giant and truly original. UG was an imposter whose only ability was to argue and argue endlessly. A lot of garbage from a man who supposedly had no teaching to offer. The hurt on hearing the truth about him from Ramana Maharshi and JK seems to have hurt UG very deeply until the very end of his life.
  • krishna Jul 9, 2008 @ 4:52 pm | delete
    ug is is unique and lead his life,almost in a way he was talking about (not preaching!).Cannot think of any other person ,religious or otherwise so far in my life!
  • Pete S. Apr 22, 2008 @ 6:26 pm | delete
    I don't know. . .really.
  • Y V Chawla Apr 16, 2008 @ 11:17 pm | delete
    The human mind is programmed.
    whatever you say or I say or any body says is coming from the programmed mind. There is no way this programming can be undone.
    To see this, to understand this is the end of the game.
    There is no 'how to' do it. It will still be within the programmed structure.
    Mind is helpless in solving the mystery.
    Seeing one's helplessness puts one with the mystery.
    Y V chawla
    http://www.fundamentalexpressions.com
  • David N Oct 25, 2007 @ 8:50 am | delete
    The two most important thinkers ever!

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