The Great Lensrank Debate

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Should Lensrank be based on Social Aspects or Measureable Visits and Clickouts

Is Lensrank based on Social or Measureable characteristics?

This debate has been going on for a long time on Squidoo. Should Squidoo rank lenses based on the social aspects such as Ratings, Favorites, Gold Stars, Purple Stars, LOTD, and Angel Blessings? Or should Squidoo give more weight to Visits, Clickouts, Commissions, Length of Visit? Can a lensmaster survive on one side of the debate or the other, and can a lensmaster achieve both.

I'm going to explore this issue on this lens. Why? Because it's fun, and everyone loves a good debate. Will we solve the debate, I doubt it, because this debate is like Chocolate vs Peanut Butter or Taste Great vs Less Filling.

What attribute do you think is given the highest weighting to lensrank?

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What affects lensrank?

Have you ever wondered what affects lensrank? Most everything does. An angel blessing, a visit, a clickout, a star rating, updating your lens, a favorite, a purple star, a gold star, a sale, and even LOTD? I did an experiment with lensrank when I first started on Squidoo. You can read about it in the lens below as a track a lens for about 8 weeks and how different interactions with the lens affected its lensrank.

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Two Theories on how lensrank is calculated

The bottom line is only Squidoo HQ knows how lensrank is calculated, and they keep it a secret, much like KFC's 13 herbs and spices. But, we can speculate and have fun. Here are two theories on lensrank:

Theory #1 by RickPhillips
Lensrank utilizes attribute weightings. This is a suggestion Rick provided on how lensrank should change to be more traffic oriented.

Traffic - 35% (using a rolling aveage)
Clickouts - 30% (again, using a shorter rolling average)
Time on lens - 15% (daily time)
Revenue Generation to Squidoo - (via traffic, ad hits, sales, ) - 15% (monthly rolling average)
Social Games - 5% - Stars, Favorites, Blessings, Number of lenses, Etc.

JeffryV presented the following as an alternative to the current lensrank also using weightings:

Consistent traffic - 45% ( NOT a rolling week but on a rolling month )
Consistent clickouts - 30% ( Currently at an all time high) Traffic divided by clickouts
Consistent sales - 10% ( This has changed several times over the years, I have seen it as high as 40%)
Consistent updates - 5% to %10 depending on how long since the last update
Consistent stars - first one 20% - there after 5%

Theory #2 by OneFootPutt
My theory is that each attribute is given a point value and the lens with the highest number of points gets Lensrank #1, 2nd highest is Lensrankd #2 and so on. My guess on points was the following:

100 points per angel blessing for blessings in last 21 days
10 point per star ratings for raitings in the last 14 days (1-star rating you get 10 points, 5-star ratings you get 50 points), need to factor in that many stars can outweigh 1000's of visits.
25 points - Gold Star (Giant Status)
75 points - Purple Stars in last 21 days
4 points per clickout for clickouts in last 7 days
100 point Freshness scale (Top 4% get 100 points, next 4% get 95 points, etc.)
100 point Average lensrank scale from last 14 days (Top 4% get 100 points, next 4% get 95 points, etc.)
25 points per sale for every sale in last 7 days (Amazon/Ebay)
1 point per visit for every visit in the last 7 Days
10 points for Giant 100 Status
10 points for each Favorite in the last 14 days.
1 point per average rating star (need a tie breaker)
1 point for featured lens (keep featured lenses above wip lenses)
100 points for 1st publish for 14 days
0 points for work in progress lens (note, wip lens is not eligible for any other points, although I don't know what happens if you force a lens into wip status).

Do good lenses tell stories?

Personal lenses written from the heart, providing inspiration, are by far the most interesting to read. Especially if they are about the people you interact with everyday on Squidoo. Their interests come roaring through and make Squidoo a personal place that comes from the heart.
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What about lenses that make money?

Lenses that sell provide traffic and income to Squidoo.
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A failed attempt at a new Lensrank algorithm

Every year it seems, this comes back up. I'm not sure why. ;<)
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Should Lensrank be based on Social Aspects or Quantitative Measurement?

I would love to hear everyone's opinion. What I have found is no one is incorrect and if different lensmasters owned Squidoo, lensrank would be much different than it is today.

In fact before you weigh in, check out these past debates on Squidu:

Lensrank Update started January 17, 2011 by MeganCasey
Debate on Lensrank started July 13, 2010 by Flowergardener
Debate on Lensrank started April 10, 2010 by Flowergardener
Debate on RocketMoms started January 11, 2010 by Triathlontraining
Debate on Leaderboards started December 2, 2009 by MeganCasey
Speculation on Lensrank started October 4, 2009 by Johnoviatt
Debate on Lensrank started August 12, 2008 by Chadrew
Discussion on Squidoo's Interests started September 22, 2008 by RickPhillips

Here are my thoughts...when you're a newbie, the social aspect of Squidoo is very compelling, a lot of people willing to help you with questions and help you understand the complex topics of SEO, HTML, and Backlinks, etc. After you've learned these things, you start venturing out on your own and you want to see visitors from search engines, clickouts, and the all mighty sale. By utilizing both, Squidoo captivates the newbie and provides tools for the experienced. (I was criticized on another Monkeybrain for not taking a side).

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Definately Social

akumar46 says:

Yes it is.

charlino says:

I'll be the underdog and say Definately Social. My reason? It doesn't hurt to be social to help generate traffic, and improve name recognition.

Measure the Stats

dannystaple says:

The social is important, but lensrank really is about good quality lenses attracting regular readership and iteracting with the site. A good social aspect will definitely enhance this, but only if the lens was worth visiting in the first place.

kopitozie says:

Unique visit .... day by day make our lensrank up and grow

bikerministry says:

I just want the information I've written to be available to others, I miss "favorites" but it's forcing me to be creative. Don't really like boring people with my "interests" on Facebook, and still don't see the value of Twitter yet.

carolinesouth says:

I'd say that there are many different factors. Going by the hundreds of lenses I have looked at and their rank I see that quality and amount of content is not a defining factor. I have seen lenses with little added value with rankings of less than 10,000 so I would imagine traffic and clickouts play a major factor.

hotbrain says:

If you only measure the social, you'll be missing out on the majority of internet traffic who aren't Squidoo members and can't give a lens a thumbs up. They may comment, but members certainly comment more. It's important the Squidoo doesn't isolate themselves.

SereneSea says:

Measuring the stats seems to be the right way, however social aspects should carry weight . A majority of lens which are in Tier 3 and Tire 4 also bring clickable traffic that convert to profits, hence I feel with the number of lens rising in these tiers , the thresholds of the Tiers need revision. Algorithms that come closer to measure the right amount of traffic and revenue generation should be the criterion for ranking the lenses.

vallain says:

I'd like the comments, thumbs up, favoriting to boost a hard-working lens, but ultimately if Google doesn't like it and bring traffic, it shouldn't have a high lens rank.

TheWhistler says:

I think the only way to do it is by the amount of traffic.

BevsPaper says:

As much as I love the Social part of it, ranking needs to be measured with the heaviest weight determined by traffic generated, clickouts, and sales. I would add length of time spent too. Fly by traffic shouldn't hold as much weight as the ones where people actually stayed and read to content.

Don't object to little bonuses from the social side as it does show that the lensmaster participates in the community aspect.

Personally, I think the Tiers need to be revisited. With the huge number of lensmasters and the even larger amount of lenses now on Squidoo the Tiers are out of sinc with the numbers involved. I'm guessing that the majority of lenses are falling into Tier 4 which gets no payout for the lensmaster but would add up to a considerable amount for HQ.

Chadrew says:

Traffic (and clickouts, and sales) is what makes Squidoo money, not star ratings. It should be rewarded accordingly.

 

Do you consider this lens keyword stuffed?

One of the interesting debates on what drives lensrank is the ability of the lensmaster to stuff keywords in their lenses thus driving search engine traffic. I'm just curious if you believe this lens is stuffed with the keyword lensrank

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