Liberal vs Conservative - Which is Better?
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My views on liberalism vs. conservatism
Please note that the above are the characteristics of true or "classic" liberalism. Unfortunately, these have been distorted by those who claim to be liberals but have other agendas, and by many conservatives thus creating the false image of liberalism such as the love of big government, big spending, etc. - also read below under "liberalism vs. stupidity").
A conservative is disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change (taken from dictionary.com which I believe is a pretty good definition).
One time on a forum we were asked to define a liberal and a conservative in one sentence and here's what I came up with...
Liberal: if it feels good, do it!
Conservative: straight and narrow is the way!
Those are overly simplistic and meant to be a bit satirical. To be more accurate though, instead of "if it feels good, do it" it should be "if it feels good and doesn't harm yourself or others, do it."
Liberalism vs stupidity
Let me be clear and differentiate between liberalism and stupidity since some conservatives have managed to equate the two.
A few examples:
Keeping the borders open and allowing illegal immigrants in and depleting our resources while letting drug dealers, criminals, and potential terrorists enter freely is stupidity, NOT liberalism!
Refusing to drill for more oil while gas prices keep sky-rocketting, driving up prices of other goods is stupidity, NOT liberalism!
This one is a biggie: having more government control is just the opposite of promoting individual freedom and therefore, "big government" is not a liberal concept, At least not in my book!
Liberalism does not equal stupidity!
Despite what I wrote above, some of the conservative commentors still equate liberalism with stupidity. Just read some of their comments below. Did you people bother to read the above section? Let me repeat: the TRUE definition of liberalism is NOT THE SAME AS STUPIDITY! You should read the entire page before posting your comments.
I was a conservative turned liberal
Not necessarily politically
As a conservative I was very uptight about things and sometimes got upset when I saw people behave in ways that were not acceptable to society.
As a liberal I'm very open minded, relaxed, tolerant, patient, and fun loving.
In short, I'm happier and able to enjoy life more as a liberal than as a conservative.
There's one area where I'm still conservative though, and that's when it comes to protecting myself, my family, and my country. I guess that's just self preservation.
Note: the above are MY views based on MY experiences. Yours may be different but that doesn't mean I'm a better person than you or vice versa. We are all different, that's all!
Oh, one more thing: please don't confuse the terms liberal and conservative with the names of certain political parties. That's not what I intend them to be. Unfortunately, there have been a lot of misunderstandings about that, leading to useless debates - a waste of time and energy. So keep that in mind as you voice your opinions below.
Let your voice be heard too!
Are you a liberal or a conservative? Please tell us in what ways.
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Important, pleas read before commenting:
Although you may comment on political issues, this page is NOT only about politics. In fact, I myself do NOT belong to any political party. So please don't label me as being a member of a certain political party or accuse me of attacking a certain political party, which I never did!
All comments have to be approved before being posted. Comments (from either liberals or conservatives) containing profanity, racial slurs, personal attacks, and those that do not add value (one-liner comments or stuff like "ditto", "me too", "I agree/disagree", "I hate so and so", etc.) WILL NOT BE POSTED! Remember, we can disagree without being nasty to each other.
Are you a liberal or a conservative?
Fetching blurbs now... please stand byI'm a liberal and proud of it!
hardworld2live says:
I love being a liberal but in a world full of conservatism we must break from are ideal beliefs to help close minded people. Too many conservatives follow with the crowd instead of using thier brain to think for themselves.
Posted June 18, 2009
shakeabootyortoo says:
republicans are so stupid, they think they know erything but they dont. people need welfare sometimes to live. otherwise they will die.
Posted June 13, 2009
Brad W says:
Liberalism is a tolerant, freedom loving movement that is compatible with democracy. Conservatism is a closed minded intolerant movement that is more compatible with fascism than democracy
Posted June 10, 2009
aidenw says:
Colton:
I don't want to continue fighting with you since it's useless and a total waste of time. So I'll just say a few things briefly and end this argument.
You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine, and we won't change each other's views. You didn't respond to my challenge to show me where I "bashed and stereotyped all Republicans!" Instead of admitting you made a mistake, you kept finding ways to attack me. I should have realized that I was opening myself up to personal attacks by creating this debate lens but I just wasn't expecting it since my intention was to just have fun and a light hearted discussion. Maybe I was a bit naive.
For the record, I will delete my statement about conservatives that has caused quite a stir lately as I don't want to continue arguing with people. I may be biased (yes I know what it means, thank you!) because I'm presenting my views here, and so are you! I do give others the opportunity to voice their opinion whether or not they agree with me. We can disagree without personally attacking each other.
For your information, I have actually deleted a few comments from the liberal side. I could easily have deleted your comments but I have not done that so far. Remember though, you're visiting MY lens and I'm allowing you to voice your opinion. You should at least thank me for that. I know it's human nature to always want to win but if you keep posting stuff attacking or insulting me, I WILL delete your posts. Have a nice day!
Posted May 28, 2009
aidenw says:
This is in response to Colton:
You didn't read carefully what I wrote and you just jumped all over me, how nice of you! (as opposed to me being "rude and disgusting!" hahaha!).
Read it again carefully my friend: "Just read SOME of the comments on the conservative side...." I was refering to SOME of the comments here! (do you know what the word "some" means? If not, look it up!) So how is that "bashing Republicans" and "stereotyping all republicans"??? What kind of logic are you using?
Like I told another poster previously, there are currently 4 pages of comments. Did you even read all of them and see which ones I was talking about? You need to click on "next page" to see them all!
And where did I ever use the word "Republicans" or refer to any political party in my article? Show it to me and I'll give you an award! Note: there are a couple of "Republican" merchandises down towards the bottom of the page. Those don't count!
Posted May 27, 2009
HalaHalaHala says:
I am a liberal towards personal choice. Generally i believe in this sentence "You are free to do everything you want as long as you don't hurt others" with the exception when it comes to duties to society, such as preserving environment (allowing to drop litter everywhere is not a liberal view, it is stupidity) and country (actually, even though i am a liberal, i am FOR a sizeable military budget of 4% of GDP(i am not american, just pointing out)).
However, when it comes to economic policies, i am FOR regulating the so called "Free-Market", i am FOR social democratic economic policies.
All that makes me left-centrist, social-liberal.
Posted May 21, 2009
California_Dreamin says:
Of course I'm a liberal, I can't imagine being anything else. Just take a look at history: it's always been the liberals and progressive that have moved society forward, that is, made progress. Being a conservative would only make sense if the world were perfect, which it obviously isn't.
Posted May 21, 2009
aidenw says:
Duvalian:
"To state that you're either conservative, or liberal, is political, as they are political terms. not descriptions of one's personality, or character traits."
This is where we disagree. In my opinion liberalism and conservatism encompass many aspects of life. Politics is one of them but not the only one. There are social, economical, religious and moral issues, etc. Yes, those issues can be and are often politicized (unfortunately) but still, to say liberalism and conservatism are only about politcs is not acurate. Let me give you an example: do you think it's OK for men to wear earrings? for women to wear revealing clothes? If you answer "No" then you you have a conservative view, otherwise you have a liberal view, but it has nothing to do with politics since those are not political issues. What I wrote on this page is mostly based on anything other than politics.
"I assumed that this web site is a platform for political debate..."
That was not my intention of creating it. My original intention was just to have fun and have a light hearted discussion. Unfortunately, to some extent it has deteriorated into a political debate which includes name calling, profanity, etc. It's human nature to want to argue and often times things get ugly. I should have known that from reading different forums and blogs. Engaging in debates is not my forte and I don't have the time to moderate this site. I had actually thought of deleting this entire site. One reason I haven't is that the volume of entries is still quite small. But I still might delete it in the future. We'll see...
"Lastly, when did i use words you didn't say? I quoted only the statements listed above. those are yours aren't they?"
Yes, they're mine. Actually you quoted them quite well. So can you show me where I ever said I 'changed political parties', 'politics is the conduit from where happiness is derived', and 'labeling an entire political party...'?
I never said any of those. They are all your assumptions based on your opinion that liberalism and conservatism only pertain to politics. I never mentioned any political party, and let me say it again: I do not belong to any political party!
"I do respect the fact that you can disagree, and still remain objective it says alot about your character."
Well, thank you for that one small bit of compliment! :)
"I dont intend to do a back and forth debate or anything,I simply dont have the time."
Neither do I. As I said previously, I don't enjoy engaging in debates. Most of the time it's a waste of time since both sides are already set on their views and opinions and they are very unlikely to change. In the end nobody wins. The time would have been better spent on more productive things. So with that I hope we can end this debate :)
Posted May 19, 2009
aidenw says:
Duvalian:
First of all, I said at the beginning of this page that my views on liberalism pertains to that of "classic" liberalism, which may be different from your views. Did you read that part?
"The fact that you have a rebellious side does not necessarily mean that your newer liberal ways are more virtueous based on a new found sopposed tolerance to your rebelliousness."
That's entirely your opinion. Everyone has an opinion.
"There's no reason why becoming a liberal would remedy the problem by simply changing political parties. I suggest respectfully that there may be a deep seated issue going on, outside of politics."
Whoa! Where/when did I ever say that I "changed political parties???" As a matter of fact, I DO NOT BELONG TO ANY POLITICAL PARTY! I just changed my views on life in general. In fact I DID say, "I changed my views mostly on social issues." Little or nothing to do with politics. Please go back and read it!
"So am I, and I'm a Conservative Libertarian. so the Virtue's listed in your above statement, are not limited solely to liberalism."
I didn't say they're limited to liberalism. I wrote based on MY OWN experience. Other people's experiences, and views may be different and that's fine!
"Politics should not be the conduit from where happiness is derived."
Again, you're putting words into my mouth (or fingers in this case). Where/when did I ever mention such a thing? I don't even like politics!
"It may just be me but labeling an entire political party as "judgemental, angry, and downright rude!" is just that judgemental, angry, and downright rude! Furthermore i would venture that people who are "judgemental, angry, and downright rude!" are that way in ALL aspects of there life, so i wouldn't assume its held to just a specific politic."
Wow, dude! It's amazing how you're so hung up on the words 'politics' and 'political party!' And "labeling an entire political party..." Huh? What political party??? Please read carefully what I wrote before jumping all over it! I said SOME of the comments, I DIDN'T even say ALL - so how could you say I "label the entire political party?!" Did you even read those other comments? So far there are 4 pages of comments, you know? So you have to click on the next pages to see all of them.
I don't know why you seem to think that liberalism and conservatism are all about politics. You want to look at it that way, fine! I don't, and that's not what this site is about.
Look, you can disagree with me and that's fine. I'm very objective and don't take offense to that. In fact, it's cool to disagree. This world would be a boring place if everyone agreed with each other. But please don't criticize me using things I didn't even say. That's just absurd. Have a nice day!
Posted May 18, 2009
COEXIST!!! says:
Liberal! Keep an open-mind, relax, lay back, and coexist! Also, a little note for conservatives, death penalty, "killing a killer makes it just, then that makes you a killer, so kill the system you must." OH, and how about "pro-lifers" supporting the death penalty? One more thing, how do you propose to help those who need it when you only help those who are more than able to get it? (healthcare, welfare). Open up your heads and relax, DAMN!
Posted May 13, 2009
daren says:
i'm a proud liberal. Why is it so bad to be open-minded instead of narrow-mindedness
Posted May 12, 2009
peace. says:
The problem I have with conservatives is that they think their right and use religion or whatever that to not accept different people, cultures, and be ignorant of others ideas. Liberals accept everyone for who they are regardless. that is why you see conservatives hating on gay people or anything not christian. They hate hip-hop because it is a different culture and use the bible as the right to discriminate and demonstrate intolerance. I understand if you are religious and have a certain set of morals but do not condemn others for not being like you and let all humans be themselves. Liberalism embraces the differences in each human and encourages individualism. While conservatism is a set in stone set of rules that shape society regardless of a persons character, etc. Conservatism forces people to try to conform to society even if it means limiting free will and is so resistant to change even if it is neccesary. Even with the un0deniable proof of gloabal warming conservatives annot come to grip with the idea and sticks with the same guns no matter what. Liberlism embraces whatever new ideas any human may come up with and tells all people that they are unique and can have any view. While if someone comes up with an idea conservatives dismiss them and say it is wrong and society could never embrace it. Conservatism is just based off of ignorance of reality and about living in a perfect world where everyone thinks and acts like you do.
Posted May 02, 2009
hamzah says:
im liberal and i believe in the 2nd ammendment, the death penalty, and if conservatives really think that liberals have more govenment than i believe that there should be less government.
Posted April 20, 2009
hamzah says:
this is the land of the free right? this is not the land of religious moral values. i am a muslim and the islamic religion has alot of limitations, many similar to the jewish and christian religion, like: no abortion, you can't be gay, etc. however, not everybody in this country believes the same way we do people. i respect conservatives and there beliefs, but i dont believe that liberalism egauls stupidity. i dont believe that the government should make laws about abortion or gay marriage because that is like taking away the people of this country's freedom. i too also was pretty conservative, but as i grew older i learned that not everybody has the same beliefs as i did and i had no right to take away their freedom. im a 14-year-old liberal independent human being and im proud of it.
Posted April 20, 2009
anonimous says:
If we realize it, see each other, we are basically same, human being.
Posted April 20, 2009
Secularity1223 says:
I used to be conservative, uncomfortable with the very idea of
having homosexual friends or friends outside of my own religious
beliefs. One day, I became friends with a girl, she was very kind
but dressed in very outlandish, eccentric clothes, her hair cut short
and her religion secular. I was a boy, but when she told me she was
gay I was still taken by surprise...but then it happened.
I realized that there had been a sort of elitist element within
my conservatism, that if the morals of someone else
weren't deemed exactly as mine,
they somehow became wrong. Over the course of many months I saw
the different peoples of the world, and the hard reality that
my more conservative freinds lacked empathy for those people that
had made mistakes, died drinking or doing drugs, they behaved
with much hostility and, instead of feeling moved to do anything
about it, they would all continue to behave as if it could never
happen to anyone they knew.
I find myself happier with the reality that we are all not
Christians or Jews, but also Buddhists and atheists, and that
the meaning of "good" is not determined by a church but by a
certain perspective, relative to the ever-channging times.
In the 1960's, the fight for civil rights was resisted by those
who resisted change - in a way resisting reality.
Today, I feel that there's that same unnecessary fight against homosexuals, and to a lesser extent, women and those of other
races.
As a liberal I have never felt more confident that my heart is
in the right place.
Posted April 11, 2009
yellowgyrl77 says:
This is such an interesting debate,and almost ridiculous. I was a young mother on welfare(eat your heart out conservatives)and without the help I received from Govt funded programs, I would have never slept in a bed, put a roof over my son's head and put myself through law school.I also believe in some views of the conservatives. I believe in the death penalty and right to bear arms,(as I bear arms myself), but conservatives have and will always maintain the idea of the rich getting richer and the poor get poorer. Im all for our govt helping people out IF IN NEED and not for hand me outs. This debate will never end and it's sad,but I just had to throw my 2 cents in. God bless
Posted April 09, 2009
Lauren30 says:
What i find most interesting are the "proud conservatives" who, in their comments, first try and define the word liberal, go on to mock liberal's "progressive stance for individual freedoms as defined by the law" because we are not open-minded or accepting, and then finish it off with a prediction of God's vengeful hate towards those of us who acknowledge our free will. My only real response to that is: Get out a dictionary (do we know what one is?) and actually look up the word liberal. Just because you don't like the definition doesn't mean you can make up a new one and condemn people to hell.
Posted February 05, 2009
Celticozarkian says:
A proud liberal that supports the death penalty and gun rights! Try labeling that one!
Ray Province
The Celtic Ozarkian
www.celticozarkian.com
Posted January 10, 2009
inrbrt says:
O mr silly limpwrist itn is the womens choice if we dont let a women choose or anyone for that fact we lose what we really wanted this country to be made upon. I understand that strong republican uptight scared racist right wings want everyone to do what they want to do but democracy doesnt work like that. You also preach fiscal conservatism that is bull you use the power of the government just as much if not more than democrats would do. We spend 8 billion dollars a month on the "war on terror" even though Iraq was never mentioned in the 2001 state department report that identified fourtyfive countries where al qaeda was operating. Since 1960 the annual federal deficit under repub presidents is over 140 billion under dems a mere 30 billion. Republicans preach gov't doesnt work but when they get into office they truly prove it. Also about the bong the amount that is spent on weed in this country legally is 12 billion if taxed revenue would be 1 billion so i will hit the bong hopefully one day it will help our economy.
Posted December 19, 2008
I'm a conservative and proud of it!
jae says:
Oh, it's so nice to belong to a group. But are you all sure that you pledged your allegence to the right group? I think you are all half dopes or some combination (60 - 40) etc. What I hear a majority of these posts is the desire for more common sense yet most are pulled in one direction or another because of some emotional experiences or what media you listen to or which group is the funniest or any # of other factors. I'm checking 'conservative' below because I think most you liberals are disconnected with reality and to give you an idea of my general tendancies. But if I were forced to join a group I'd go with the libertarians. Why? I may not always come to the same conclussions as a hard core lbt but at least they have the courage to actually think things through! Hey I have an idea... over the next 4 years find out if you are really a lbt. Then let's maybe vote for a real change and reign in this fed. While liberals and conservatives clash over nonsense both the Ds and Rs are selling us out... big time.
Posted July 03, 2009
Duvalian says:
Modern Liberalism is stuffed full of fascism, from Fannie Mayhem to the more recent drive to federally enforce their theology of magical molecules and its prophesy of Thermal Armageddon. (cap & tax)
BOTH? are not only example of fascism, but are that specific facet of fascism involving government dictating to businesses how to conduct their business, with their dictates being a radical departure from rational business practices.
Talk about closemindedness!
Posted June 30, 2009
EmmyDoo says:
Whats with all the bashing on this site?? Why dont you just state what you beleive and validate it, instead of telling the other party that they are wrong. I mean come on, what is it about politics that brings out the worst in people?? Many of the liberal comments that I've read have said how conservitive people are 'narrow minded', well listen to this, I could care less if two men or two women get married. I mean if they really love eachother then who are we to say no?? I am also a christian, and I have the tolerance to deal with any one with a different relegion, I will listen to what they beleive with out telling them they are wrong. All I guess that I'm saying is to give every one a fair chance to show their side of the story.
Another thing I am very worried about Is that Obama is taking toward socialism.... I really dont think socailism will work in any society ,beacause not every person is equal, and eventually that few in power will become crazed. Does the world need another Hitler or Stalin?? No, and capitalism hasnt failed us before, we just need to ride out this recession. Honestly I dont beleive Obama is taking the right steps toward fixing this, all he is doing is digging the hole deeper.
AH whatever no one cares....
America is dead anyway....
Posted June 17, 2009
Spook says:
Well I had to pick one and my life experiences chose this and not from any political platform. I think that a person can believe in God whether being a liberal or a conservative from a political point of view. Those that hold true to this irrispective of their political affiliations always are well liked and respected in their communities. It's those that jump on the bandwagon of each new " in Thing " who you have to be careful of. Best way to explain this is when your starry eyed liberal comes face to face with what they are espousing and move into the neighboured they are the first ones to move out.
Posted June 14, 2009
Duvalian says:
America is a two party system. One is the party of slavery, sedition, KKK, La Raza, forcing? citizens to pay for illegals, fetal bloodlust, "affirmative" racism, class warfare, entitlement programs, bastard breeding programs, and all other socialist's beloved treachery against humanity, and the other party tends to oppose all that, though rather ineffectively.
-Guess which one is which.
Posted June 13, 2009
Duvalian says:
Brad w,
Democrats are the ONLY party who sponsor Fascist groups like Nazis, Black Panthers, KKK, La Raza, you know, the rainbow of hate, and yet you and other liberals shamelessly try to smear your political stench on Conservatives; demonstrating a fundamental ignorance? of political dynamics. Very typical of Liberal-Fascism.
Also; to say that Conservatives are "closeminded" and liberals are "tolerant" is not only an ignorant, broad generalization. It's also in most cases, perfectly backwards.
Educate yourself before reposting. if you decide to. Then, if you disagree, do attempt an argument rather than decree.
Liberals & nonsense - Life Partners
Nice try though.
Posted June 11, 2009
hops says:
The thing that I don't really understand about liberals, is that they belive that the goverment is a solution to the problems and ills of society. Everybody complains about how the govement handles their buisness, but they want them to take control of such important things as healthcare, individual retirement, education and a whole host of other things.
How about the roads in your state how well maintained are they. I live in the state of Georgia which is pretty well known as having good roads ,but I can still take you down some bad ones. The last time you went to go get a drivers license how did that go. I live in a town that is close to a really large Air Force base which has a civilian force of over 10,000 and we (everybody that work @ the base) has a lot of knowledge of the workings and efficency of the federal government.Everybody will tell you regardless of political ideology that things are slow to happen and people are allowed to get away with unbelivable acts of laziness and being just plain sorry. They know that it is almost impossible to get fired. Their acts would never be allowed in the private sector. To give you examples so you don't have to imagine, their are Lazy Boys in the hangers some drive trucks with camper shells on them in which they go to and sleep in during the day(after clocking in of course. Others just clock in and then leave to go home. Goverment efficancy at its best!
To even think that the goverment will do a better job is a fallacy. California dreamin said that conservative policy would only work in a perfect world ,but liberals think that the goverment would create a utopia. Their policy is that everyone is basically good ,but what about people like hitler, stailion, and sadam and they would proabley like to include rush,hannity and W. But on a more personal level when was the last time you broke a law or thought an evil thought like killing somebody, drove drunk with the possibility of killing somebody.
With that said, it would not be hard to imagine the goverment drunken with their far reaching power to start using it to control everybodys life and to me that would be as far away from freedom as possible.
The major difference between conservatives and liberals is how the think, and I am not talking about issues I am talking about basic mental processes (before you say No S**t Sherlock) Conservitives think through the issue more of a cause and effect attitude and liberals think in a more emotional manner depending on their experiences. Their will never be an end to the debate in the United States and the fight will always consist of one side of the debate gaining ground in overall support, but it will eventually lose traction and swing back the other way
Posted May 30, 2009
Colton says:
Aidenw:
Sorry for stereotyping you as you did the Conservatives.
I realize that there are some Conservatives on this lens that are quite immature but your comment refering to JUST the conservatives and the conservatives only was biased and un-just.
Mention a few of the comments that th liberals have posted, i see a few that ARE RUDE AND ANGRY, AND EVEN JUDGEMENTAL. Consider deleting them!
I mean NO hate toward you for voicing your opinion though.. Notice that some do.
Oh and you refered to SOME of the Conservatives as angry... i see that you are angry by these comments and obviously lash out at ridiculous things...
Yes i knw what some means... thank you.
Dont try to belittle me thank you very much.
Try to conflate your hypocritism and your biased beliefs.. maybe you will realize that u dont know REALLY know what u typed..
Do you know what BIASED mean?!
Colton
Posted May 27, 2009
adam says:
sorry mis-quote "...cling to their religion and guns..." thanks :)
Posted May 26, 2009
adam says:
I agree with colton. The true United States has been morphed into this double-standard infested world where i can only speak about my religion if i want to be filed a complaint on sorry but in the days of our founding fathers worship was the leading role in life.
Abortion is wrong from any view if a woman had sex she should carry the out come. Sex is for making babies our bodies hormonal and reproductive systems were created for the purpose of recreating life in a woman.
Gay is wrong it's obvious marriage is a symbolic instituition that is only between a man and a woman. CLEARLY!
Where went the pride of being a United States Citizen where was the days were we was proud of our country our morals our beliefs our religion. In the words of our failing president "...the people who cling to their bibles and guns...". I'm sorry but that offends me that a person that far out spoken about the American way of life is actually in control of the country. And in this article all you did is show the pure idiocracy of liberalism you gave no clear explanation to your views I mean your actual views on topics important to the American readers like immigration all this is to you all is supporting the poison that is affecting the American youth.
Thank You,
yes and i'm only 15
Adam
Posted May 26, 2009
Colton says:
Sorry, but I did not finish reading the article before i posted the previous comment.
You Wrote "*Just read some of the comments on the conservative side and you'll see that they're judgemental, angry, and downright rude! I'm seriously considering deleting them but I'll leave them up at least for a while just to show the readers what I mean!"
That is rude and disgusting that you would post that... Bashing Republicans for stating their opinion, like an AMERICAN is allowed to!
I am sorry that you would actually put that... Stereotyping all republicans because they excersize the right of FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
You need to take a closer look at history my friend.
And the fact that you refer to us as rude?
Wow..
Posted May 26, 2009
Colton says:
Your biased opinion proves the fact that a Liberal (or one of your standards) have an in-depth opinion... Whether or not you meant for this opinion to be "fair." I Couldnt help but notice the fact that there are few of the qualities possessed by everyday Republicans listen in the article. If you are going to state your opinion, give the oppossing opinion in-depth aswell.
The preservation of the Constitution is the obvious priority of any American. However, I believe that the constitution failed to mention, "Freedom to Murder the Innocent Fetus' within a woman's inpregnated body." The Ten Commandments CLEARLY say, "Thou Shall not KILL."
The Baby has a soul from the moment of conception. Many Liberals will argue that with me. But i cling to my Religion before the Liberal's manage to revoke my right to worship freely, even if it does go against ones beliefs.
The death penalty should be refered to as JUSTICE. Not punishment. If you look a the situation Utilitarianistically, 1 life is equal to that of another. Kill, and be Killed! If a person was to rape, murder, or sadistically torture one of my family members, i would ensure that justice was served and followed.
Sorry to anyone if i bashed your beliefs, but If i am told not to say these things, then the American society knows nothing of American Rights and Freedoms.
Sorry if I mispoke on many subjects, I am very young and have taken in only the research i come by.
Colton
Posted May 26, 2009
RWB says:
I am a conservative because i believe in the capitalist system of econonomics and the republican (representative democracy) style of government. I wish to "conserve" the past efforts of this nations greatest leaders achievements by not radically straying away from "what works" because "change" is the new hip thing. and I wish to "conserve" the constitution of the United States for the future of America. I believe in freedom, but I understand that it comes with the cost of responsibility; and although I may not be as laid back as someone who just doesn't give a crap about this country, I really do care and I am willing to pay the ultimate price and die to "preserve" everything the Amercian flag stands for. That, sir, is what it means to be a "conservative." We do not "change," are not "laid back" because we are firm in our beliefs and values and are willing to die fighting to "conserve" it.
Posted May 25, 2009
froomschtupper says:
I am in favor of eliminating all forms of guns in America and I
unfortunately prefer legalized abortion but in all other respects
I am a conservative a American citizen. I believe that America must
place a major emphasis in promoting immigration from East Europe
over the next 50 years. G-d bless America.
Posted May 24, 2009
Duvalian says:
Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters,
We've stuck together since the late 1950s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know that we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and just will not ever agree on what's right. So let's just end it right now while we can do it on friendly terms. We can smile, shake hands, chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and each go our own way.
So here's a model separation agreement.
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass, each taking a portion. That's going to be the difficult part, but I'm sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy. Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate taste. We don't like redistributive taxes so you can have those. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. And since you hate guns and you hate war, we'll take the firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell. But you are going to be responsible for finding a biodiesel vehicle big enough to haul them around.
We'll keep the capitalism, the greedy corporations, the pharmaceutical companies; we will keep Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have the homeless, the homeboys, the hippies and illegal aliens. We will keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, the greedy CEOS and all of the rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and we'll let you have NBC and Hollywood.
You can be nice to Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer anybody that threatens us. You can have the peaceniks and the war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we will provide them with security. You won't have to worry about it. We will keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley Maclaine. You can also have the UN, but we will no longer pay the bill.
We will keep the SUVs, the pickup trucks and the oversize luxury cars. You can have the compacts, the subcompacts and every Subaru station wagon you can find. You can give everybody healthcare, if you can find any practicing doctors. We will continue to believe that healthcare is a privilege and not a right. We will keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and the national anthem, and I am sure you will be happy to substitute in their place "Imagine." I'd like to teach the world to sing "Kumbaya" or "We are the world." We will practice trickle-down economics and you can give trickle-up poverty your best shot. And since it so offends you, we will keep our history, our name and our flag.
Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots. And if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the friendly spirit of parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in about 15 years.
Sincerely,
John J Wall
Law student and an American
P.S. You can also have Barbara Streisand and Jane Fonda
Posted May 22, 2009
brandy says:
I would also like to vent about the subject of H2o boarding.. Many view it as tourture and u have your right to you opnion. However if innocient AMERICAN lives are at stake I would take a dull knife and cut small pieces of their Ball's off until I got the info i needed to save lives. But that's just me
Posted May 22, 2009
brandy says:
I'm a proud consertive in Cali..I get so sick of hearing libs say oh consertive's are uptight and dont have open minds.. i say BS I'm very open minded, not uptight at all and I bet I would be the wildest and funest at any liberal party. One thing about libs that drives me crazy is your so hypocritical and can never take critisim or admit your wrong, you alway try to blam BUSH no matter what the subject..oh my shit was blue! IT'S BUSHES FALT.. get over it.. take some responsiblity. Have you ever heard the expression " it takes two to tango"...
Posted May 22, 2009
mickey54 says:
I am a Conservative's Conservative. I have NO problem with the statement that you made earlier. Classical Liberalism, ala J.F.K is NOT the same as Teddy Kennedy's. What I have a problem with (politically)is the Statists that have taken over your label in recent years.
Posted May 21, 2009
Duvalian says:
aidenw,
" Let me give you an example: do you think it's OK for men to wear earrings? for women to wear revealing clothes? If you answer "No" then you you have a conservative view, otherwise you have a liberal view, but it has nothing to do with politics since those are not political issues. What I wrote on this page is mostly based on anything other than politics. "
-Once again i must disagree, I am a Conservative Libertarian, basically in all things i default to liberty. so by definition i believe that a person should have the liberty (root word of libertarian) to do as he/she/shim please's, so long as it does not infringe on a person's right to life, liberty, or the pursuit of happiness. with that said one cannot say that tolerance is a virtue of being solely " openminded " or " liberal ", as i am as well. But the statement " If you answer "No" then you you have a conservative view " is an incorrect absolution, since being conservative socially, does not necessarily mean one would be against revealing clothing or boy earings, just that we wouldn't necessarily wear them. Leaving the freedom to do as one wishes to that person. Hence liberty.
On the issue of " don't criticize me using things I didn't even say. " I never said that you said you changed political parties, I assumed you you had given the context of your argument.
By your statement " As a liberal I'm very open minded, relaxed, tolerant, patient, and fun loving. " Your basically saying your more content, or happy. I simply made the implication that you were deriving your happiness from liberalism since youre happier as a result.
If you went out and made the assertion that conservatives were closeminded to 90% of the population they would think you were labeling a political party since being conservative is political, and like i said before, not a description of ones personality or character traits.
But i digress, Duvalian
Posted May 20, 2009
Duvalian says:
aidenw,
I dont intend to do a back and forth debate or anything,I simply dont have the time. however, i do want to point out a couple of things:
1. Classical liberalism (also known as traditional liberalism and laissez-faire liberalism) is a doctrine stressing the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, the protection of civil liberties, constitutional limitations of government, free markets, and individual freedom from restraint as exemplified in the writings of Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Jeremy Bentham, John Stuart Mill, and others. As such, it is seen as the fusion of economic liberalism with political liberalism.
-Basically what we today call, none other than your standard, everyday, run of the mill Conservatism. so to say that youre a Classic liberal, means in essence that youre a Conservative. Basically the assertion that you've changed from a Conservative to a "Classic liberal" is to not have changed at all. Analogy-I used to have blue eyes,but now they're blue.
To state that you're either conservative, or liberal, is political, as they are political terms. not descriptions of one's personality, or character traits. so when i assumed you changed party affilliations it was an asumption based on your own assertions.
As for my frequent use of the word "politics", and "political party". I assumed that this web site is a platform for political debate, if that is an incorrect assumption than i apologize. however if it is than naturaly those words may be reputitious.
Lastly, when did i use words you didn't say? I quoted only the statements listed above. those are yours aren't they? I do respect the fact that you can disagree, and still remain objective it says alot about your character.
Duvalian
Posted May 19, 2009
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UNIVERSAL HAPPINESS
With government as it's largest client, it's not surprising that medical costs hyper-inflate along with all other government sponsored industries, e.g., education. What is surprising is that many think that doctors, hospitals, nurses, surgeries, and medicine will be cheaper if we pay for doctors, hospitals, nurses, surgeries, medicine, AND government agents to "oversee" it all.
"Alice in Medical Care"
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God save us from liberal "empathy." ... For example, Judge Sotomayor apparently "empathized" more with New Haven, Conn., government officials than with white and Hispanic firefighters who were denied promotions by the city on the basis of their race. ... Let's hope she's as empathetic to New Haven residents who die in fires fought by inferior firefighters ...
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Posted June 30, 2009
Gula wrote
Did any of you see clips of grown women or teenage girls gang beat another grown woman or teenage girl on you tube? That's one example. Our nation is on moral decline and it just seems that being conservative takes a lot of heat these days. It's hard to lean towards the teachings of Christ or be a "bit" religious with an opinion and not be branded a stupid conservative or self righteous. Sarah Palin is the greatest present example of a ridiculed conservative. David Letterman and Bill Maher just can't stand what she stands for.
Just what is wrong with including your religious beliefs into anything government? I read an article by Pat Boone called "Obama Sounds like President Without a Country" and I read it enough times to realize its true message and I agree with him.
Yes, crucify me now, but I prefer to live in a country that proudly admits to being a Christian country as opposed to Obama's statement that "We are no longer a Christian Nation". Frankly, I disagree.
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Posted June 10, 2009
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Posted June 01, 2009
