Liberal vs Conservative - Which is Better?

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My views on liberalism vs. conservatism

Being a liberal is promoting maximum individual freedom as well as being open minded and tolerant. A liberal is not afraid to explore and implement new and different ideas even those that may seem strange and unacceptable to the majority.

Please note that the above are the characteristics of true or classical liberalism. Unfortunately, these have been distorted by those who claim to be liberals but have other agendas, and by many conservatives thus creating the false image of liberalism such as the love of big government, big spending, etc. (also read below under "liberalism vs. stupidity").

A conservative is disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change (taken from dictionary.com which I believe is a pretty good definition).

One time on a forum we were asked to define a liberal and a conservative in one sentence and here's what I came up with...

Liberal: if it feels good, do it!
Conservative: straight and narrow is the way!

Those are overly simplistic and meant to be a bit satirical. To be more accurate though, instead of "if it feels good, do it" it should be "if it feels good and doesn't harm yourself or others, do it."

I was a conservative turned liberal 

Not necessarily politically

I was raised a conservative and held conservative views for quite a while. However, I also have a rebellious side that always wants to break away from restrictive rules and societal norms, and seek freedom. Over time that side of me won and I changed my views mostly on social issues.

As a conservative I was very uptight about things and sometimes got upset when I saw people behave in ways that were not acceptable to society. As a liberal I'm very open minded, relaxed, tolerant, patient, and fun loving.

I tend to disregard societal taboos and rules which only serve to curtail the enjoyment of life. So I'm a social liberal and live a carefree lifestyle that would fit into the term Bohemian although I'm not an artist. In my view you should be able to do anything you like as long as you don't hurt others or yourself. However, as you should realize, that takes a lot of personal responsibility. I'm not even talking about politics here.

Just to give a couple of examples, to me it's cool to dress like a hippie, go barefoot, wear a nose ring, etc. but what about doing drugs or having multiple sexual partners? Before engaging in any of those, you should ask the question: will your behavior harm yourself or other people? And you should think long term too.

There is one area where I'm still conservative, and that's when it comes to protecting myself, my family, and my country. Although I say I'm tolerant, I have no sympathy for terrorists, mass murderers, child or spouse abusers, and the likes.

Note: all the above are MY views based on MY experiences. Yours may be different and that's fine. No one can always agree on everything and that's cool!

Again, this is not all about politics, so please don't equate the terms liberal and conservative with the names of certain political parties. Not here, anyway. That was never my intention. Unfortunately, there have been a lot of misunderstandings about that, leading to useless arguments - a waste of time and energy. So keep that in mind as you voice your opinions below.

Have you watched Glenn Beck's special TV shows? 

This section is probably political :)

Glenn Beck is a conservative radio and TV talk show host. I don't usually listen to him much but a while back someone told me to watch his special series of TV shows (August 24 through 28, 2009). He brought up some pretty scary stuff. The big question is, is Glenn Beck completely nuts and we should just ignore him, or is there some truth to what he said and presented?

If you didn't watch the shows live on TV, you can click on the link below and watch the recordings. Update: unfortunately, the recordings of the special series have been removed. However, more recent shows are currently available and they aren't any less controversial. It appears Beck is on some sort of a mission. You can watch and form your own opinion. Here's the link:
http://glennbeckclips.com

Share with us what you think. But please be civil. Any comments from either side containing foul or abusive language (this is a G-rated page), promoting hate or violence will not be posted! All comments need to be approved, so there will be a slight delay.

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He is crazy, a racist, or just hates liberals and wants to smear them

Nick says:

Beck makes cringe!

Haywood says:

I have watched Beck for some time now, I think that if he believes the stuff he spews out 5 days a week he is either crazy, or he needs to take a class in history, people like him don't worry about facts about this country; like the fact that many of our founding fathers were diests, not born again christians. that this is the most religious nation on earth because of the separation of church and state, not in spite of it, the 50's, 60's and early 70's were the most prosperous times in this country because of strong unions lifting many small boats up to the middle class. companies still made money,as they should. and the top tax rate was around 80%. this crated the largest middle class per capita in this country's history, more people buying houses and goods, sending their children to college, and only having to work one job to support a family they actually had time to raise. unlike today. But i don't think he's crazy, I think he's just he's careless with his lies, ignorant of the truth, and wrong. But that wallet sure is fat I bet, huh? And if your a true right winger, isn't that what it's all about?

Dave says:

he's predictable. anything to cause a stir and increase the divide between liberal and conservative and all just for ratings. If everyone could just see him for what he is, then all we'd have to do would be to sit back and wait for him to self destruct.

uscop says:

Glen beck, Lou Dobbs and several others are hiding behind the curtain of conservatism. in fact these are racist people who ignore the holy book and core values of Christianity. they are bigots and hurting the cause of true Americans. these people uses the definitions of conservatism just to make their case but truly they are racist hate every one else other than their own kind. Liberals does not mean anything illegal, nothing against the Christianity or any other belief. they just don't hate others because they are different.Fox news and Lou Dobbs show on C.N.N continue to spread hate among Americans, bend on disrespecting President O'bama no mater how much the president is trying to do the best for the country. health care reform is needed for America. public option is very important for the healthcare reform. it will make private insurance companies to compete and improve their service and quality. these so called conservatives paid by the insurance industry to block every attempt to overhaul the ailing health care system in this country.shame on Lou Dobbs, glen beck and all others trying deliberately derail the efforts to reform the health care.

He is telling the truth

MIke says:

I do what he says on his show. I get off the couch and look up what he says for myself. And, most of the time I find more information that he had on his shows. It kinda scary what they are doing to us, but parties.
Question with Boldness.

jessie rogers says:

Glenn beck is just trying to raise awareness about the fact that our country continues to spend money, putting us more and more in debt. He is angry because President Obama continues to do things that Glenn Beck disagrees with (obviously). However, you have to understand that Beck is angry with our country's situation and just doesn't have a good way of.. er, expressing his feelings in a calm manner. He is not, however, crazy or racist. He doesn't hate the president bcause he is black, he hates him because he disagrees with him. Glenn beck critisizes (s.p) white people (i.e Nancy Pelosi, Joe biden, etc), also. Everyone he "hates" is a liberal (usually.) It has nothing to do with their race, gender, and so on.

i'm only 15 though. haha so what do i know? Just my opinion. Feel free to agree or disagree.

bob says:

This man is standing up for Americans. he knows the difference between right and wrong. he also seems to know his history very well because he states that this country was founded by christians not by muslims, so therefore, we are a christian nation. he is not a racist, he is just stating the obcious that you must make efforts to be succesful because the government will not do it for you.

mark says:

i believe that glenn beck is very passionate and has many points worth noting

AltonEaston says:

Glenn Beck is an libertarian, and his show reflects what he views are dangers in being a statists. After reading this blog and the comments, it appears to me that few individuals really understand that a political ideology is not as simple as saying one is a liberal or conservative. By the way a liberal is not a libertarian. I would suggest that people consider taking the test at www.politicalcompass.org. to really understand their political position.
NOTE THAT IS DOT ORG not dot com.

lynn says:

I am sick of hearing if you dont like Obama you are racist, GET OVER IT!!! Look what Obama is doing, Nationalized Health Care!? I have a friend that came to live here from Italy (the 2nd best health care system in the world) to live here for 2 years, I asked him about their awesome Nationalized health care and he said "Its OK just dont get hurt, it is much better here." Obamas policies is for the people with their hands out. I am a business owner who makes great money and I had no better opportunity than anyone else, I wanted something and worked to acheive it. If the people who founded this country were liberal it never would have been the USA because they would have waited for someone else to do it.

Hankster says:

You want to call Beck a nutjob, fine.BUT, since he almost ALWAYS shows the Video of the person being discussed doing EXACTLY what he is claiming.... And you on the other side then say he is wrong, then you are in DENIAL!!! And, when shown in living color the evidence to back up a charge, if the person being shown the FACTS then still denies such..... WHO then is the crazy person???? If I tell you a dog is biting your leg, you look and SEE a dog biting your leg.. then get into an arguement with me to DENY you are getting bit..... ummm, I hate to break this to you, but, you are INSANE!!!! Sorry....

lfmskl says:

I've been watching Glenn for a while and anyone who says he's a crazy racist who smears liberals is crazy. He does NOT smear people. Van Jones blamed his resignation on Glenn's "smear campaign". Well, some news for Mr. Jones... GLENN WAS USING YOUR QUOTES!!!!! He tells the truth, and these days thats rare in the media. He give facts, quotes, and constitutional reports in an unconstitutional time. People claim he is a democrat hater and just like republicans. THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP!!!! If they had ever given his show a chance, they'd hear him yell at Bush and the republicans too. He thinks BOTH parties are horrible. He's asking why the PEOPLE are doing this; he's not. When Bush did this or that, everyone freaked out. Now Obama does the SAME THING and it's suddenly okay. The people also called Bush a Nazi and a Communist, but when Joe Wilson called Obama a lier (which Glenn and I say was wrong) AND APOLOGIZED, everyone is STILL FREAKING OUT!!!! Maybe you guys who think Glenn is crazy should actually LISTEN to him instead of the main stream media who thinks everything this administration does is good for the US (which God knows it's NOT).

 

Are libreals stupid? 

Ok, this is where I get a little "political." To me there is a difference between liberalism and stupidity although some conservatives have managed to equate the two. But again, that's probably because I'm referring to the classic or true liberalism.

A few examples:

Keeping the borders open and allowing illegal immigrants in and depleting our resources while letting drug dealers, criminals, and potential terrorists enter freely is stupidity, NOT liberalism!

Refusing to drill for more oil while gas prices keep rising, driving up prices of other goods is stupidity, NOT liberalism!

This one is a biggie: having more government control on our lives is just the opposite of promoting individual freedom and therefore, "big government" is not a liberal concept. At least not in my book!

Addendum: someone pointed out that I'm actually a libertarian instead of a liberal in the political sense. I guess they're right, but when I created this page politics wasn't at the top of my list :)

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I'm a liberal and proud of it!

Ellwood says:

I consider myself a very center left leaning quasi-liberal type. I'm a self-employed university student [trying to get my BA in Business Administration] and I believe in hard work and diligence to progress through society. I am a Christian. I believe in free enterprise and opportunity for all Americans. I believe in the constitution and the American ideal.

I'm not sure I'm a proponent of big government, but I'm not exactly a proponent of big corporations either. Big government is not our generation's problem in my opinion. On the domestic side, large corporations in America can exercise as much control if not more control over American citizens lives than anything the government is going to do. The destruction of democracy begins when lobbyist for these large corporations buy politicians, and by extension, political power. Lobbyist will fund a politicians campaigns in exchange for political leverage. Those politicians will then vouch for legislation that favor's said corporations - typically more deregulation will lead to more profits [ala pre-existing conditions for healthcare - no price negotiations etc], particularly in the banking and pharmaceutical industry. Most republicans tend to be bought out by these corporations. Republicans will drive the "big-government" fear when influencing votes, when the only thing at risk here are the profits of these corporations. In the meantime the American people suffer with increased healthcare premiums while the average income for a typical citizen does not increase quite as much over the years - making healthcare more prohibitively expensive. This is not capitalism or free enterprise. This is not what I believe in.

I believe in global warming - actually let me rephrase that. I admit global warming is real, as it requires very little faith to believe in global warming considering how overwhelming the evidence the propagates it is. I believe it only makes sense to build an infrastructure of alternative fuels b/c A) oil isn't a renewable resource anyway B) Drilling for oil in the hopes that we MIGHT find SOME oil deposits is not good enough. C) The few jobs that it will create is not worth the investment if there isn't enough to sustain Americans for more than a couple decades. I just think as Americans we can and ought to do better than that.

Okay, lets wrap it up - my most liberal belief is on the death penalty. I don't think the human race is capable of understanding death. Many a religion, many a cult has come and go trying to explain the enigma of death. If we can't understand death then why do we think we have the capacity to judge who lives and who dies? I believe that religion has no place in government. Putting it on our money and in our pledges is fuel that divides the country. I believe that marriage is a religious institution. If your belief system says that you can marry a member of your sex then the government should recognize that. I believe that people should think for themselves and not blindly follow their media pundit of choice. I think a healthy country is a country that acknowledges everyone as American, and not divide among party lines, differences of race, religion, sexual orientation or etc. Sometimes we spend too much time on the things that make us different and not enough of the time on things that we have in common.

haywood says:

If I had a car that needed worked on, which mechanic should i take it to? one says: " just give it to me, and if it can be fixed, I'll do my best to get you back on the road the best way possible." The other says:" I hate working on cars. but i don't like the other guy thinking he's knows how to do a better job than me. so let me work on it instead, it probably wont run all that well, since your driving a cheaper model, I only like luxury models, does your car even have a horn? jeez, I cant even hear it! you should drive a limo. I'm sure I'd hear it then. park it behind the garage where I don't have to see it and I'll get to it when I get to it. If not, I really don't need your business anyways. My point is obvious iI hope, Republicans hate government unless they can get something out of it, so why put them in charge of it. we need them though, Just like we need body odor to remind us we need a bath once in while, to help keep us clean.

Leon says:

I'm a liberal, because I believe in peace, love, compassion, solidarity, & health. Also, I would like to piggyback on what karatekatgraphics said...to me (generally speaking), liberals appear to be more community oriented and concerned about the greater good. On the other hand, conservatives seem to be more individualistic and concerned about themselves and hanging onto their piece of the pie. A liberal, at least this one, doesn't mind forking over a little cash (and no, I don't have much of it), if it means helping the less fortunate (i.e. healthcare for those who can't afford it.) The story of the Good Samaritan comes to mind...

Greg says:

The cable shows are interested in only one thing. More viewers. This will increase their cashflow. People need to realize that most of the talking heads are entertainment not news. Many people mistake their opinions for facts. This is on both sides of the political equation.

Sometimes they can be really entertaining however we need to realize that that is what it is.

boshemia says:

I think the division in politics is destroying our country from the inside, how can we unite our country against outside forces when we stand divided among ourselves? I usually go with liberal if pressed to choose though because I believe that the government has no place inside of my body, mind or soul... and I prefer to think for myself.

KarateKatGraphics says:

The terms have been distorted to the point of being useless, IMO, but to me an old-school "liberal" cares about things that benefit the greater good, not just him- or herself, and is willing to vote accordingly.

Papa090709 says:

?The Future Evolution of Liberals and Conservatives?

Liberal and conservative views will become so diametrically opposed that each side will begin to take on the characteristics of matter and the other anti-matter. So much so that if, by some terrible mistake, a conservative hugs a liberal, in a loving moment, everything in our universe will cease to exist in a huge explosion. However, everything will come back together again, after billions of years, forming planets and stars, and the process will start all over again.

aidenw says:

ART:
Thank you for your valuable comments. You're right, I'm more of a libertarian than a liberal in the political sense. I guess I'll have to change some of the wording on this page.

Jb C says:

I like the idea that conservatives try to take better care of the military and are concerned about morals and national security, but honestly, from what I've seen on the news, it seems that all conservatives ever do is denounce Obama and every single move he makes without trying to learn exactly what he's trying to do. I think that gay people are still people and should have the right to get married, which I think, is a basic human right. A lot of conservatives seem to be xenophobic and are in my opinion they cause more harm than good by making ridiculous claims that have nothing to do with fact.

aidenw says:

Duvalian:

Can you elaborate on the following points?

* Criminalize the act of national defense
* Purge the US military of heterosexual males
* Put all Americans on some kind of new Welfare program

I'm especially interested in the second one. Allowing gays to serve in the military does not equal getting rid of the heterosexuals. Or perhaps you were referring to something else?

I'm not looking for an argument, just some explanation :)

I'm a conservative and proud of it!

Mcje says:

Don't we have "charities" in this country dedicated to helping the less fortunate? If I want to help out I will give to my local charity, I don't need the government demanding it from me and giving it out to someone they believe needs it more than I do.

Billy says:

I am for working hard and if the job is done right then you should be compensated for it. Your merits, NOT the color of your skin or your ethnic background should give free reign for advancement in ANY institution. If you didn't get the grades, USC is not going to feel sorry for you??try a little harder next time. Black, white, blue, tan?.guess what; George Lopez, Martin Lawrence, Tavis Smally (is that right??), and BET?.I see no racism here!!! I guess George, Martin and Tavis had to ?work hard? to get their own shows. One more thing, I'm really am for pro life, and the thought that science says that at so many weeks or month a fetus in not a human being is goofy, after all, it doesn't take ?your science? to figure out that in 9 months, it WILL be a human being.

Jim says:

I am a conservative because I believe that there are certain abosolues in this world - that there is a distinction between right and wrong and that it does not simply depend on your point of view and your experience. Killing babies is wrong. Giving a minority a job over a more qualified applicant is wrong. Allowing illegal immegrants to flaunt the laws of our country and giving them government benefits to do so is wrong.

Splendra says:

I am a conservative I used to think I was liberal but I was mistaken. I believe a conservative minds their own business and does not try to interfere in other peoples lives and I wish the government would do the same.

Hankster says:

Not wanting to insult, but if you look at the major Liberals today, one can see a major difference between those on the left, and Conservatives (NOT Republicans, CONSERVATIVES) .... Conservatives believe in the LAW.... there have to be rules and law and order. Now, we also believe Government which governs least governs BEST! My, that sounds kind of "liberal"... less confining law...hmm, but it's true! Most of your big time big party liberals.... well, have lied, cheated and broken more laws.....but so have some big party REPUBS too.... I do not Claim the Repubs.... they are just as screwy as the dems these days.... and I find it interesting how many peole list themselves.. I see a lot of people who call themselves... "Liberals" when I ask em questions about beliefs.. to ME, sound more like a Conservative!!!! Funny how THEY don't see it, but then if thier view of a Conservative is to lump em all as Republican cheerleaders... I can understand it!! Maybe someone needs to write up a difinitive guideline of what makes who a what!

ART says:

I'm appreciative of the thought that was put into assay. I hope you don't mind a few words. You are not a liberal you are a libertarian. In the realm of politics the terms ?liberal? or ?conservative? relates to the use of government. From the band to tribe to the nation state people create rules by which we deal with one another. The more numerous the people in the group the further away we get from the authority that has been, that we have created. How much power you are willing to give this authority to interfere in you life determines liberal or conservative use of government. I am also a libertarian and thus work for a conservative use of that authority.
"Unless the mass retains sufficient control over those entrusted with the powers of their government, these will be perverted to their own oppression, and to the perpetuation of wealth and power in the individuals and their families selected for the trust." --Thomas Jefferson to M. van der Kemp, 1812. ME 13:136
"If once [the people] become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves. It seems to be the law of our general nature, in spite of individual exceptions." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Carrington, 1787. ME 6:58

Duvalian says:

Obama The Joker (to-date) -- Catalog of Horrors:

* Lawlessly nationalize industries.
* Triple the federal deficit spending rate.
* Criminalize the act of national defense.
* Genuflect to America's sworn enemies.
* Criminalize private health insurance.
* Purge the US military of heterosexual males.
* Punish those who don't submit to labor price-fixing cartels.
* Force taxpayers to sponsor human embryo harvesting.
* Put all Americans on some kind of new Welfare program.
* Betray any remaining classified war programs the NY Times hasn't already betrayed.

Cancer is CHANGE, too.

Karen says:

I'm definitely a Conservative because I do not want government involvement in my personal business. At all, period.

bob says:

I am more conservative than liberal because I think liberals tend to dismiiss right and wrong and lean towards to each his own, Where conservatives I think stand by what they believe in even if it is not popular

Allhoney says:

Conservatives interpret the Constitution conservatively, they take it as it is written.
Liberals interpret the Constitution liberally and add to what is not there. If you have any question as to what the framers of the Constitution meant, then you can read their letters to others that expound on what they meant.

 
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Liberals and conservatives can work together if they all love their country 

All the arguments about liberals vs conservatives can and have actually divided the country, which is not a good thing. It is important to realize that the differences between a liberal and a conservative are their philosophy, their ideology, and the way they look at things and solve problems. In fact, it is healthy to have those differences in order to establish a balance which in the end will create stability as long as all involved love their country and are guided by the principles of the founding fathers. Therefore, liberals and conservatives should work together for the good of the country.

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    lasertek lasertek Dec 14, 2009 @ 7:48 pm
    Nice debate! The liberal & conservative sides have both good arguments and it is pretty difficult to decide which is better than the other. It is important for a person to consider a few things before deciding which side to go for.

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    Cheryl Crist Cheryl Crist Oct 27, 2009 @ 9:26 pm | in reply to boshemia
    Bohemia...you took the words right out of my mouth....well said....
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    Pukeko Pukeko Oct 22, 2009 @ 6:38 am
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    Alaska individual Alaska individual Oct 16, 2009 @ 11:01 am
    Public schools are a place we teach shame of our founding fathers. This helps mold the minds of our future voting generation. Public schools have become Democratic Head Quarters. As Regan once said, Socialism cannot take root and thrive using the name socialism. This is why the name was changed to Liberalism. The Liberal will count the body bags of US soldiers who CHOSE to fight, but they will never count the 1 million abortions. Selective outrage and shame is the fuel a weak nation needs, to implement this so-called change.
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    BLC BLC Oct 13, 2009 @ 4:53 am
    I would take it then that you view one thing as moral for you but something the opposite may be just as moral for someone else?
    Are morals totally subjective for every individual?
    Are there such things as absolute right and wrong or are values negotiable?
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