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Norfed - The Liberty Dollar, the FBI. The Amero and Alternative Currency efforts

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A collectible coin conspiracy....

 

This lens is about a fascinating story. The short version is that a former mint worker developed what he believed was a silver and gold backed currency as an alternative to the US dollar. It started to catch on and some stores were actually accepting this form of payment. Left alone for a number of years, the FBI apparently raided the offices of the company and seized the gold and silver it had. The coins and other items issued have become collectible ever since but the story has become all the more interesting with the collapse of the US dollar in the last few years, the increase in the silver price etc.

The Liberty Dollar is described as a private currency of minted metal coins (which some call pieces as to not confuse it with real currency and gold and silver certificates , and also Electronic Liberty Dollars (eLD).Liberty dollar Silver and Gold certificates are warehouse receipts for real gold and silver formerly owned by ALD certificate holders which was warehoused at the Sunshine Mint in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho prior to an FBI raid.

The Liberty Dollar was distributed by Liberty Services (formerly known as NORFED), based in Evansville, Indiana. It was created by Bernard von NotHaus,who was the co-founder of the Royal Hawaiian Mint Company.

The Liberty Dollar warehouses were raided and the contents confiscated by the US government (FBI & Secret Service) on 15 November 2007. The government states their action was meant to prevent people mistaking Liberty Dollars for legal tender US money. the Liberty Dollar organization are accused of illegally presenting the currency as a legal alternative to the United States dollar. (sourced info Wikipedia)

What is confusing is that the company has comments on record that from at least one treasury official stating that the currency was not illegal. There is now a class action lawsuit in which the holders of the warehouse receipts for the silver and gold are suing the Govt to recover the assets backing their paper.

There are numerous interesting "pieces" issued by Norfed which has gained an almost cult like status since the federal raid. I believe this status is somewhat enhanced aa a result of the recent decline in the value of the US dollar. If you check out the Youtube module below you can see a very interesting segment on the Kidlow and Company show where Bernard von NotHaus appeared shortly after the raid. The panelists argued over which currency was really more worth more? Ironically the alternative seized currency was backed by something ! LOL

I find this story and the coins (as I call) them very interesting. I am currently reading the book which is highlighted for you below in the Amazon section.

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Watch this video - From CNBC's Kudlow and Company 

I have never seen an interview like this one!

This is the first video you should watch to give you an overview of what happened when the assets were seized from Norfed.

Bernard Von Nothaus on Kudlow and Company

The fractional reserve banksters don't appreciate Liberty Dollar offering a currency that actually has inflation proof value, so they sent their minions (FBI) to shut them down on November 15th. Seizing all their silver, gold, copper, and platinum medallions, files, and computers. For more info go to: http://www.libertydollar.org/

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The Official Position of the US Mint 

The US Mint makes the following statement on theie website meant to combat confusion over various coins, medallions and other mint issues..

"The National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and the Internal Revenue Code (NORFED) is producing and marketing gold and silver medallions that NORFED calls "Liberty Dollars." The United States Mint and the United States Department of Justice have received inquiries regarding the legality of these so-called "Liberty Dollar" medallions. The United States Mint urges consumers who are considering the purchase or use of these items to be aware that they are not genuine United States Mint bullion coins and they are not legal tender. These medallions are privately produced products and are not backed by, nor affiliated in any way with, the United States Government. Moreover, prosecutors with the Department of Justice have determined that the use of these gold and silver NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions as circulating money is a Federal crime.

Consumers may find advertisements for these medallions confusing and should take note of several issues related to them.

First, the advertisements refer to the product as "real money" and "currency." These medallions might look like real money because they-

Bear the inscriptions, "Liberty," "Dollars," "Trust in God" (similar to "In God We Trust"), and "USA" (similar to "United States of America"), and an inscription purporting to denote the year of production; and

Depict images that are similar to United States coins, such as the torch on the reverses of the current dime coin, 1986 Statute of Liberty commemorative silver dollar and 1993 Bill of Rights commemorative half-dollar, and the Liberty Head designs on the obverses of United States gold coins from the mid-1800s to the early 1900s.
However, despite their misleading appearance, NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions are not genuine United States Mint coins and they are not legal tender.

Second, the advertisements confusingly refer to NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions as "legal" and "constitutional." However, under the Constitution ( Article I, section 8, clause 5 ), Congress has the exclusive power to coin money of the United States and to regulate its value. By statute ( 31 U.S.C. § 5112(a) ), Congress specifies the coins that the Secretary of the Treasury is authorized to mint and issue and requires the Secretary to carry out these duties at the United States Mint (31 U.S.C. § 5131). Accordingly, the United States Mint is the only entity in the United States with the lawful authority to mint and issue legal tender United States coins.

Under 18 U.S.C. § 486, it is a Federal crime to utter or pass, or attempt to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver intended for use as current money except as authorized by law. According to the NORFED website, "Liberty merchants" are encouraged to accept NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions and offer them as change in sales transactions of merchandise or services. Further, NORFED tells "Liberty associates" that they can earn money by obtaining NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions at a discount and then can "spend [them] into circulation." Therefore, NORFED's "Liberty Dollar" medallions are specifically intended to be used as current money in order to limit reliance on, and to compete with the circulating coinage of the United States. Consequently, prosecutors with the United States Department of Justice have concluded that the use of NORFED's "Liberty Dollar" medallions violates 18 U.S.C. § 486."

Great Stuff on Amazon 

The Liberty Dollar SOLUTION To the Federal Reserve

Amazon Price: $11.96 (as of 08/30/2008)

Youtube Videos on the Fascinating Story of the Liberty Dollar 

There are tons more where these came from...


Bernard Von Nothaus on Glenn Beck

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The Liberty Dollar

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Bernard Von Nothaus on Kudlow and Company

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NH Liberty Update 12/31/07

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Ron Paul Liberty Dollar Hallmarking

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Liberty Dollar of Evansville Local NBC 14 Coverage 11-29-07

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Inside the Liberty Associate Kit

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Liberty Dollar of Evansville Fox Coverage 11-29-2007 2of2

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New Guestbook 

beesknees-23

Hey Marty!!! Another great lens, you do us all proud!

Posted April 07, 2008

EvieJewelry

very nice and interesting lens - saw you on store boards

Posted April 02, 2008

sisterra

nice lens - from the stores board

Posted April 02, 2008

kiwisoutback

Great lens! Very interesting that there was a "secret currency" that flew under the radar. Saw you on the stores board!

Posted April 01, 2008

Silver_Lotus

interesting! 5 stars Your Green Guide

Posted March 31, 2008

wildrosetreasure

Nice lens. Very interesting story.

Posted March 31, 2008

 
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Finding Norfed Silver on Ebay 

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Finding Norfed Silver Certificates on Ebay 

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Finding Norfed Copper Coins on Ebay 

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Finding Norfed Ron Paul items 

These items were a limited issue done at the time Ron Paul was running for President. I believe he supported efforts to have a currency backed by gold and silver that is why they issued coins with his image on them.

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Links for More info on the Norfed Liberty Dollar Saga 

NORFED
Please be aware that this is the historic site for NORFED, that distributed the Liberty Dollar (1998 to 2006). Since its founding by Bernard von NotHaus, ...
Liberty Dollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Liberty Dollar is distributed by Liberty Services (formerly known as NORFED), based in Evansville, Indiana. It was created by Bernard von NotHaus, ...
The Soviet-Style Attack on NORFED
Nov 21, 2007 ... It would be difficult to find a better example of federal heavy-handedness than the recent six-hour federal raid on NORFED, the National ...
Digg - US Mint Claims NORFED Are Federal Criminals
Sep 15, 2006 ... In a stunning development in the private currency movement, the US Mint today announced that the Justice Department has declared that the ...
NORFED and the Police State Deputy -HiddenMysteries News Archive
An account of harassment and ignorance by a Travis County Deputy who had to save face after being exposed to NORFED and refused to acknowledge the truth. ...

A New North American Currency ? The AMERO 

THE AMERO

Another alternative Coin or "round" as they are called by those wishing to keep the distance from terms used by existing currency is the AMERO. A great looking coin!

The designer, Daniel Carr, in fact, also crafted the New York and Rhode Island state quarters issued by the United States

Mint, circulated in 2001. Carr described the amero coins as "prototypes."

These are being sold already on ebay. The story of these is fascinating and can be seen in part through the links and youtube videos we have posted to this site! We have also linked Amero products available on Ebay.

NEWSFLASH - 5-29-08 - SILVER 2007 Issue AMERO is now trading up to $500!!! These offbeat currency options are really picking up some interest!

Links for More info on the Amero  

North American currency union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Fraser Institute's proposed symbol/logo for the amero ... Herbert Grubel, the first proponent of the amero, admits that American officials show no ...
Amero, Debut of the amero
Dec 14, 2006 ... Amero, Debut of the amero, North American Union, Euro, Europe, , mexico, Canada, Minuteman project, NAU.
Analysts: Dollar collapse<br> would result in 'amero'
Dec 13, 2006 ... "Creating the amero," Chapman explained, "will be presented to the American public as the administration's solution for dollar recovery. ...
The Plan to Replace the Dollar With the 'Amero' - HUMAN EVENTS
May 22, 2006 ... The idea to form the North American Union as a super-NAFTA knitting together Canada, the United States and Mexico into a super-regional ...
Devvy Kidd -- The IRS, Amero and the battle ground for liberty
May 7, 2007 ... For those who think the Amero is conspiracy fodder, watch this short 2 minute video from CNBC: "One thing those who are dollar based need to ...
YouTube - The Amero - North American Currency
Apr 22, 2007 ... This video highlights a very serious concern which none of our media is looking into. The Amero is being looked at as the defacto currency ...

New YouTube vids 


The Amero - North American Currency

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Amero Watch

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Amero Debate - CNBC Worldwide 11-28-2006

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Finding AMEROs on Ebay 

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Some great books on Fiat currency, gold and Inflation 

Gold: The Once and Future Money

Amazon Price: $18.45 (as of 08/30/2008)

Inflation Targeting: Lessons from the International Experience

Amazon Price: $26.95 (as of 08/30/2008)

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