Would You Trade Liberty for Security?

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Liberty for Security?

Benjamin Franklin is believed to have said, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." These words are so profound and such an integral part of the framework of America that they can also be found at the base of the Statue of Liberty.


With this in mind, how do you think the Founding Fathers would feel about Patriot Act and the recent prevalence of "Nanny" laws being passed for "our own good?"

I believe that our Founding Fathers left very clear instructions as to how limited the scope of the government was to be. Instead, the people are continuously demanding that the government take away one freedom, personal liberty, or personal responsibility after another for the sake of security or for the good of everyone.

These laws began innocently enough. At first it was seat belts in cars and helmets on motorcycles. Then it became helmets on tricycles, trans fats in food, and smoking in public. Of course some of the more recent laws are even more ominous in the form of the Patriot Act.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness were listed as inalienable rights of men and we are handing them over on a silver platter. How do you feel about giving up these rights? Is it really worth it to you or will it only become a problem when it is your rights they are coming for?

Do Body Scans and "Pat Downs" Make You Feel Safe?

The recent TSA decision to initiate aggressive pat downs and full body scans by the TSA have people from all walks of life up in arms and threatening to stop flying altogether. These pat downs have been performed on men, women, and children of all ages and are far more invasive than many people are comfortable with accepting. What say you? Do these pat downs allow you to fly with more confidence and feel safer while you're at it or do they tread on your liberty leaving you scratching your head and asking when did the USA become more like the USSR?

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Liberty or Security?

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Our Founding Father's Said it Best!

I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!

Patrick Henry - March 23, 1775

Excellent Books About Liberty

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Bill of Rights

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Amendment III

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Amendment VII

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

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Bill of No Rights

By Lewis W. Napper, candidate for U.S. Senate from Mississippi in 2000.

I wish I could take credit for this one but the credit belongs to the man mentioned above. I would like to add that if I lived in his district he would have had my vote.

We, the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid any more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt-ridden, deluded, and other liberal bed-wetters.

We hold these truths to be self-evident: that a whole lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim that they require a Bill of No Rights.

Article I

You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.

Article II

You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone not just you! You may leave the room, change the channel, or express a different opinion, but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.

Article III

You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.

Article IV

You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.

Article V

You do not have the right to free health care That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public health care.

Article VI

You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.

Article VII

You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.

Article VIII

You don't have the right to demand that our children risk their lives in foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience. We hate oppressive governments and won't lift a finger to stop you from going to fight if you'd like. However, we do not enjoy parenting the entire world and do not want to spend so much of our time battling each and every little tyrant with a military uniform and a funny hat.

Article IX

You don't have the right to a job. Sure, all of us want all of you to have one, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.

Article X

You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to pursue happiness, which, by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an overabundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.

If you agree, we strongly urge you to forward this to as many people as you can. No, you don't have to, and nothing tragic will befall you should you not forward it. We just think it is about time common sense is allowed to flourish call it the age of reason revisited.

Patriot Act: The War on Civil Liberties

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YOUR TURN!

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Liberty for All

BFuniv.com says:

I like that you end this page selling survival materials. When we give up liberty, when we surrender privacy, we will eventually need those supplies.

Lauryn says:

Safety and/or security can never be guaranteed. There will always be theft and violence. Removing our civil liberties under the guise of safety is not making us any safer - it's just restricting our freedom.

Sherry_2007 says:

There can be NO SECURITY without LIBERTY. Security is the result of Liberty.

At a time when the school systems teach socialist ideas and call it free education, it warms my heart to see all the young people who are still capable of thinking for themselves and not buying into the mush coming out of the schools.

Good for you AndreaB. Excellent Lens!

Sherry
LIBERTY FIRST

MexicoLarry says:

Liberty - though humans are not very trustworthy, governments are much less so.

Barkely says:

All the new laws for the sake of "security" lately are a bit much.

pinkiemarie says:

I can never be secure if I don't have the liberty to live my life as I see fit. I can never feel safe if my life is ruled by a corrupt government. I can never prosper if the fruits of my labor are stolen. http://www.happilyoblivious.com/blog

fefe says:

What good is security without liberty?

KnowledgeSeeker says:

Without liberty, what's left?! You're next...

LeslieBrenner says:

The government has arrogated onto itself the right to tap our phones, read our emails, access our bank accounts, invade our homes, detain us indefinitely, torture us...all without our knowledge and/or legal recourse. Meanwhile, the government and media frame the issue in terms of trading a little liberty for security. But it's a false choice.

JanaMurray says:

Thanks for your efforts in waking up all American citizens...
Without Liberty there is no hope of Security...

Soren says:

Legalize Freedom!!

Victoria_Neely says:

Pursuit of happiness--absolutely. I would not want to exchange that or liberty for a "guarantee" of safety, which is an illusion in itself.

AndreaB says:

The problem with legislating away the rights of others--or sitting idly by as it happens--is that someday it will be something important to you that the government is coming after and the people are trying to take.

If we do not begin standing up for the personal liberties of everyone, we will only have ourselves to blame when they come for those that are near and dear to us.

Temporary Security

Grendyl says:

Security just as often because my friends cannot be my reason for me to realize how concrete liberty can be for what's right.

 

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