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Marrying a Turk - can it ever work? Are they all Rats? What about the culture?

 

A guide to surviving a holiday romance, deciding what to do next, avoiding the Rats and scams, understanding the culture (even the language), applying for a visa, living happily ever after.......

I fell in love with Turkey and a Turk - what now? 

Holiday fling..... or is it?

Every year thousands of tourists visit Turkey and fall in love with its beautiful scenery, its lifestyle, hospitality and its people. No surprise there.

Perhaps no surprise either that thousands of foreign women every year fall for the charms of the swarthy local working in their hotel, waiting on their table, serving their drinks or selling them a boat trip. Romantic setting, romantic man - why not?

But would you be surprised to know that many of these holiday romances every year don't end as holiday flings, but become ongoing long distance relationships and (often within the year) marriages?

Maybe you're just back, missing him already and wondering if you'll ever see him again. Maybe your friend is the one whose phone has not stopped beeping since the baggage carousel. Maybe you've kept in touch with your ashkim for a year now and wondering what the future holds.

Is it worth it? Can it last? Is it love, or is he a Visa Geezer?

I can't answer that, but I can tell you a thing or two......

Part 2 - After the holiday 

Why does no one understand?

You've just got back from your Turkish holiday. You can still picture his tearful face as he waved off your coach on the way to the airport. Your heart leaps as you read and re-read the sms texts that were already on your phone when you switched it on at the baggage carousel.

But back in the cold of an English (/European /American) day, is it all drifting into memory or are you seriously thinking of giving in to his pleas that you return before the end of the season? Could it possibly......? Should you....? Does he have......?

Nooooo, stupid idea you tell yourself. A new coachload of tourists has arrived by now, and another girl is receiving the paper roses he makes out of napkins. Or.....? Maybe... Would it be crazy? Surely one more trip can't hurt.... Just to be sure.

Lesson number 1. You are not alone.

Picture in your mind's eye the beachfront hotels and cafes of the resort you visited, and the famous Bar Street (one in every resort!). Recall the number of staff, with their ready smiles and cheeky phrases. If even half of these guys had at least one romance per season, imagine how many girls and women that makes? Now multiply that by all the resorts in Turkey that you can name.

That's a lot of romances! A lot of women! So it follows suit that there are thousands of women who are feeling or have felt what you are feeling now.

Do a google search, and you will find msn groups, yahoo groups, facebook groups, forums and chatsites - where women meet together to share tips, make friends, expose the loverats and debate the issues that matter to women like you.

Then go to your newsagents and scan the front pages of the women's mags - "I married my Turkish Toyboy", "My Mum ran off with the Turkish Barman", "My Turkish Delight cost me £10,000".

Yep, you're definitely not alone! And if you're brave enough to tell your friends/ family/ work colleagues, you'll soon find that everyone has an opinion, a tale to tell you, a warning to give. Many of them will know someone whose daughter/ friend/ neighbour married a Turkish man.

But why does no one seem to understand? They haven't met him, so why do they assume he's forgotten you already? How can they know? Why does everyone have to judge him?

So you rush off to confide in your new cyber buddies, post on just about every Turkey-related forum and decide that these are the people that understand. You look at all the wedding photos and dare to dream of a ceremony on Icmeler beach....

Ok.... or Tamam as they say in Turkey. Here's my first tip. Keep things in perspective.

Your friends and family (and even some of your colleagues) are worried about you.

They may have prejudices. They may have opinions that are based on those articles in Take a Break, and they may never have been to Turkey. Your internet friends in comparison have been there, done it, bought the fake designer t-shirt..... they understand!

But don't turn your back on the people who care. One day you may have the quiet satisfaction of thanking them for attending your wedding. On the other hand, they may be the ones handing you another kleenex tissue when it turns out he DID have another girl, and you WEREN'T different from all the others......

Time will tell.

If you want to keep those friends onside, maybe even to accompany you to Turkey when you need a travel buddy who doesn't mind being a gooseberry, you don't want them thinkng you're a naive fool who's headed for a fall.

Try something like this.....

"You're probably right. I know, there's a coachload of girls arriving every week. It's probably impossible. I'm not expecting too much. But you know what? I'm happy NOW. I'm loving the attention. It's an adventure, the chance to see another culture/ have a couple of cheap holidays/ go back and buy you another designer handbag. I'm just enjoying it".

And mean it!

If in your heart, you truly believe him when he tells you how special you are, how different from other girls, how this is the first time he's ever felt this way and implores you to believe him and not break his heart by doubting him...... If you really, really believe that..... wake up girl! Smell the kahve!

Maybe it's all true - maybe you ARE the one he's been waiting for. But, it's just too soon to know. There are too many conmen, actors, visahunters and players for you to be able to afford to give your heart so soon.

Enjoy every minute. By all means, give it time and room to grow. Keep an open mind.

Just keep one foot on the ground. If the bad guys had Rat written all over them, or were so easy to spot, there would not be so many heartbreaks.... or so many women kicking themselves for handing over gifts/ money/ visa sponsorships.... Some of these guys are very good at what they do. Their living (and new mobile phone) depends on it.

But before you write me off as a cynic, a bitter woman scorned, another one who doesn't undertand and just wants to lecture..... I'm happily married to my Turk. One of the lucky ones!

And I hope you are too. Or rather, I hope you will be. The aim of this page is to point out a few of the scams, share some tips, teach you a little Turkish, make a few friends.

Part 3 will be about how to cope with the long distance, and watch for early warning signs.

Kendine iyi bak / Look after yourself!

The Most Important Thing!

Keep your feet on the ground - don't idolise your Turkish boyfriend just because it's exciting to be with a charming handsome foreigner.

Does he treat you well?
Do you make excuses for him?

Part 3 - Keeping in contact 

Tips, alarm bells, what to expect.....

Link coming up!

Reader Feedback 

Kedi wrote...

Ayla
I don't think age difference is the problem. Your problem is communication!

You say it's all moving too fast and you can't slow things down - but you can. If he's not listening, send him an email. If your happiness means a lot to him, he will find a way to understand it.

If he loves you, he won't take offence. How happy can you be with a husband who makes all the decisions for you? You need to take some responsibility and tell him - don't sit back and be passive, then wonder why you feel resentful.

It's great that his family approve and have been so hospitable, and it's normal for Turkish people to consider getting engaged/married quickly. But you're not Turkish - and you're half of this relationship. Speak up!

See how he responds to your fears. That will tell you a lot more than anyone telling you about Turkish men, visas, making generalisations.

It's about you and him. Do you love him? Are you good together? Do you look after each other?

Good luck :)

ReplyPosted September 29, 2008

Lensmaster

Ayla wrote

Hi i am a muslim girl, met with a guy that i met 2 years ago but we kinda got together this year. We got engaged so quickly without me even having a say. I didnt feel pushed into it but just felt i didnt get to have my say.
The guy who is Turkish Muslim is so keen to get married to me early next year, after the new year. I def think its so soon but he is adamant he wants to get married, he is also younger than me by 5 years, does the age make a big difference? its hard to communicate as he dont understand English very well. I really like him but am really worried he is just after a visa as i have heard many stories. However when i was out their in the summer his family really looked after me i didnt spend a penny on him, infact his family did the hospitality i got was really nice, they even paid for the engagement rings for the both of us. Can anyone give me some feed back on this. Your opinions pls. Many Thanks

Reply Posted September 28, 2008

Kedi wrote...

Elaine - to marry in Turkey, you'll need to get a certificate of non-impediment in England first, then when you're over there you'll need to do some form filling before the wedding, and you will also both need blood tests in accordance with Turkish law. It's probably best for your fiance to go to the belediye before you go over, so that you understand what running around you'll need to do when you get over there.

Bad luck about not getting the visa, but to be honest visit visas and study visas are really hard to obtain. A fiance visa might be a possibility for you. They have a highter success rate.

Good luck.

ReplyPosted August 10, 2008

Lensmaster

Elaine wrote

Hi thanks for your advice iv found one of the good ones,known him for 7yrs and together 4 trying to get him here to get to know him better tried for visa recently got sponser and college place here but refused visa appealing now, should have got it first time, hes done army got all papers everything cant understand why refused.Miss him so much what would i need to do to marry him in turkey?

Reply Posted August 10, 2008

Lensmaster

candy wrote

my turkish boyfriends visa will expire next april. he is worried that he won't get it renewed as he has not done his time in the turkish army. is there any other way that he can stay in the uk without having to get mrarried. if we marry we want it to happen for the right reasons. he does have a job but his company won't help.

Reply Posted August 03, 2008

 
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