Morality Without God
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Why Morality Exists Without God
The picture here was a billboard that actually drew more than one protest. I'm not sure what there is to protest - perhaps the idea of atheists being good people is protest-worthy. Never underestimate bigotry.
The Claim: There is No Morality Without God
Without God...
There are a number of different views that could be presented when someone says there is no morality without god. Some of these views contradict, and some do not:
1) In a metaphysical sense, god is the source of good. If god stopped being, we would not be capable of things like being kind or caring for those we love. Goodness would not be impossible or nonexistent without god existing.
2) God exists, and one must believe and follow him to do good and be good.
3) Because god defines what is good, god ceasing to exists would mean nothing could be called good. We might still be able to be kind, but we would not be able to call it good.
4) There could be no good because there would be no eternal consequence for actions. Proponents of this idea equate goodness with either fairness or meaning. People could murder and get away with it, and there would be no good if this were to happen. Nothing would matter, because god would not be there to make things right.
5) There are two influences pulling at us: god influencing us to do good, and the devil trying to get us to do evil. If there is no god, we cannot do good, and we would therefore do nothing but evil. If there were no devil, we would be unable to act.
A Few Quotes
Below are quotes taken from authors and regular religious people, most of them Christians:
"The initial act of eliminating our Creator God from our thinking is so immoral and unethical in itself as to render the following concern with ethical fine points quite absurd. It's as if students were to murder the teacher and then sit down to have serious discussions about proper manners in the classroom." - Stephen Keillor
"If we don't believe we are created by God, but simply highly evolved animals, and if we believe we have accountability only to society, then there is no end to the depths of depravity that we can go in our search to justify our actions. " - Ray Cotton
"... morality apart from God is arbitrary, indeterminate, and inconsistent" - William Lane Craig
I will add more quotes as they come to my attention if I feel they contribute something.
The Foundation of Morality Without God
Goodness and God
What Does "Goodness" Mean?

Follow the chart and decide where you stand. I will then address every outcome on this chart, and attempt to show how god's existence is irrelevant to morality. One of the primary questions we are trying to answer in this article is whether a given action is good because god said so, or whether god said so because it was good.
Is There any Justification for the Basis of Values?
Nihilism vs. Secular Morality
This view is surprisingly short-sighted and small-minded. Let us assume that there is no god. Does anything matter? Are there outcomes that are more preferable than others? If so, why are those outcomes preferable? Answering those questions in a rational matter begins to guide us to a rational morality.
If one outcome is preferable to another, we can say that it is better (more good) than the alternative. A valid basis for the rule of what makes one thing preferable to another is, as we shall see, the only real way to determine goodness.
Where Else Would Your Morals Come From?
Is Good Good Because God Commanded?
Ask Yourself
What god says is good; there is no reason he commands the things he does
If god does not command the things he commands for a reason - in other words, if what is good is defined as what god commands - then god exists outside and beyond the realm of goodness. If he exists outside of goodness, he cannot be called good. If he exists outside of justice by defining what is just, he cannot be called just. I don't think it would be a stretch to call god "completely arbitrary" if he tells us what to do for no real reason.
To illustrate, consider the case of a court. If justice is defined as being whatever the court says, then the court can never be called unjust, nor can it be called "just" in any meaningful sense of the term. Justice refers to a concept of fairness, but if what the court decides is always fair, regardless of what it says, then "justice" just means "what the court says," and has no conceptual reference. Just as an arbitrary court cannot be called just, a god who defines goodness with his will alone cannot be called good. If god is not good, it doesn't mean much to say that one cannot be moral/good without god.
God commands the things he does for a reason
God can be called good if he has rational reasons for doing the things he does. What, then, is the reason? What is the standard that god uses to determine whether something is good? Is it a desired outcome or consequence of his commandment? Does he do the things he does because he wants us to be happy? If so, it is happiness - not god - that makes things good.
If god god conforms to goodness, doing what he does seeking an intended result, we can discuss goodness without invoking the concept of god at all. We can, as Steven Pinker said, "cut out the middle man."
To summarize, god is either arbitrary and cannot be called good, or we can behave morally without god.
My Personal Story
How I Found Morality Without God
It's not my intent to give a full story of my conversion to a more rational belief here, but I will summarize how I found meaning and morality without god.
One of my good friends who used to believe in the same things I did left the church and became an atheist while I was in a foreign country proselytizing at my own expense. We had several heated conversations on the existence of god, but I was firm in my belief. He pinned me down several times through reason, but I failed to see it. Part of my resistance to the idea of atheism was that I had equated it with misery and nihilism.
That all changed with a goddess named Carmen. Carmen and I worked together, and I had a fairly desperate crush on her. She seemed so happy, so full of life! I felt a burst of joy every time I saw her, and we soon became good friends. There was just one problem in my mind: she was an atheist. How, I wondered, could an atheist be so happy? She was one of the most compassionate, caring people I had ever met in my life.
There were many things that happened before I changed my belief system, including many conversations with scholars, psychologists, and religious experts. I've since lost touch with Carmen, but I imagine that she'd be happy to know that I am more like her. I have found meaning for its own sake, and I enjoy helping others because it makes me happy. I feel more free now than ever, and I more sure of my morality than I ever was.
It took me a while to develop a code of ethics without religion, but I am better for it. While I continue to refine my moral code over time, I have learned for myself that morality without god is not only possible, but ideal.
The Moral Landscape
How Science Can Answer Moral Questions
The thinking religious person, if they read the book all the way through, may gain a very different perspective on atheism and morality, and how atheism and religion can come to an agreement on what is moral based on our well-being.
The Moral Landscape: How Science Can Determine Human Values
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How can we be moral through reason? This book shows that we cannot be moral without reason.
Can Atheists be Moral?
Is it possibler to be moral without god?

Yes, morality is possible without god.
Dusan8 says:
Of course, you can act morally without believing in god.
Edutopia says:
Of course morality exists outside of religion. Morality necessitates complex societies and morality existed before even Judaism and so the common assertion in the US that you can't be moral without religion doesn't even work as an argument with out introducing a rebuttal outside of the timeline of history.
Chadrew says:
Sure. In fact, I'd find it disturbing if Christians only did good because the Bible told them to. Or didn't steal and murder only because the 10 commandments forbade them. I think everyone has their own moral compass, and morale has very little to do with your religious views.
Rakhi_Dalal says:
Why not! Is doing good for the fear of God or for afterlife more moral than doing good just for the sake of doing it ?
Greenwickpress says:
If it were not possible, then societies throughout the world wouldn't have learned to condemn things like murder and rape.
No, morality without god is impossible.
SethSteel says:
You can act morally without BELIEVING in god, but if god did not exist morality would not be possible.
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