Motivating Sales People

Motivate unto others the way THEY want to be motivated

There is a misconception out there that all sales people are completely money motivated. This is simply not true.

So what does really motivate a sales person? This lens will give you some insight into what really motivates and what actually hurts your sales department.

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  • JoshDye Dec 25, 2011 @ 11:55 pm | delete
    This is a very helpful lens about motivating sales people. It is about more than just giving sales people uncapped income potential! You should write a book on this stuff.

Motivational speaking 101

O.K. Just having fun. Remember this one?

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Pay For Performance

The truth about using carrots and sticks to motivate your sales team.

The most important thing companies need to learn about their sales people:

WE ARE NOT HORSES!!!!!

Get the carrot out of my face and the stick off my backside.

"Pay for performance"..."No cap on your income"...Make what you are worth"...

If you have used any of these cliché's and think you sound motivating, get over yourself. When we say these things to a sales rep we think we are giving off a perception that we are offering you an "opportunity".

What the sales rep really perceives is that we are simply offering a "transfer of risk" with them on the short end of the stick.

The problem we run into is that a lot of times our systems and structures are set up such that we can't afford to pay a sales rep a salary. What starts out wrong, ends up wrong. If our goal is to motivate our people to do great things, we can't put them in a position where they feel financially stressed, unconfident about the structures and systems in place, and worried about how long they will have a job. Not to mention that we are also showing them a lack of trust in their ability. Now, doesn't this sound like a lot of brain damage to be walking into.

Think about the messages we are sending:
1. I cant afford to, or just flat out am too greedy, to give you a salary. (How financially stable is this company?) ,

2. I am not confident that I have a process in place that is full proof enough that it will return sales if followed. (Or, I'm not confident that YOU can successfully follow it)

WOW! That is a head full of brain damage we are handing them. No wonder the 80/20 rule exists.

One last ran about perception and reality:
I have heard the phrase "You are only as good as what you can sell today" a million times from motivational speakers. I believe this to be more negative than positive.

What you are telling me is that my hard work and success today will be forgotten tomorrow. We need to understand that the perception we think we are giving off isn't always the reality on the other end.

Watch the Daniel Pink video and then read the 2 stories bellow. (Half Court Bricks & The Fisherman)
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Half Court Bricks

"I give them uncapped income potential. Why can't they perform?"

For years I have watched sales departments operate and motivate by throwing half court bricks. How many times do we see a sales team of 10 people broken down like this:

1 superstar, 2 average, and 7 struggling? What do we do to fix it? We look at the superstar and try to copy what they are doing. Copy what works, right? Wrong!! If 9 people can't repeat what the 10th one does, it doesn't make sense to call that the process "that works".

Example: Michael Jordan can slam dunk a basket ball from the free through line. We have seen him do it pretty often. So, do we make this a required move for the rest of the team to practice and try to perfect? Of course not. He is one of only a few people who can do it. So why would we try to call this "the play that works" and copy it?

2 things are critical for a sales team:

1. A process/game plan that works for the majority, not the one.
2. Proper motivation to follow that process and plan, instead of chasing the end result.

Comp plans play a huge role here:
Most comp plans are performance based. We try to get to the end result "the sale" by using carrots and sticks. Get the deal. Get paid. No deal. No pay. This creates an environment of throwing half court bricks.

Half court brick analogy:

Take a basketball team. If the team scores more points, they win. We get it. So, lets motivate the players the same way we try to motivate the sales team. Instead of paying players to show up and execute the strategy, lets pay them individually for performance. The goal is to make the most baskets. So, lets pay the players per basket. With that thought in mind, lets add a new rule. Half court shots are worth 5 points. The goal is to score big and often so the team can win. (Just like the sales department)

Here is your new pay plan:

$1000 every time you make a 2 point basket.
$5000 every time you make a 3 point basket.
$20000 every time you make a half court basket.

Makes sense right? Hitting 5 point baskets runs the score up faster causing a bigger ROI. So, we reward that with bigger carrots.

Of course, the result would be total chaos. Every time you get the ball, you will put up half court bricks. You can't afford to pass, and it is too much work for the $1000 return to drive all the way to the hoop. Not to mention, you won't have much help on the way.

As silly as this scenario sounds, this is how a lot of sales departments are set up. We are interested in the end result. "The Sale" So, we motivate the reps with carrots and sticks directed at the end result. We don't offer incentives to follow a process. As reps get desperate, it becomes financially imperative to land half court bricks.

Result: Minimal low fruit. Maximum failure.

All pro's can consistently make a lay up once they are in position. Very few if any can consistently make a half court shot. Are we giving our sales teams a strategy, support, and help putting them in front of the basket for a lay up, or are we just handing them the ball at the half court and yelling "SHOOT!!!"?

The Fisherman part 1

"It's not a job. It's an opportunity" Why do we have a tendency to drop everything in the lap of the sales rep, give them nothing for support, force them to take on expenses for things the company should provide, and then wonder why they can't perform?

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"Why can't I find a sales person that can deliver?"

"Those sales people are just lazy con artists. They convince me they can sell. I hire them. Then they produce nothing"

"Motivational contest for the month: 1st place...You get to keep your job"

"I offer uncapped income potential through a huge commission % and they still can't sell."

"I don't pay sales people unless they produce."

"Why do my sales people complain about needing marketing materials and sales tools? Isn't that part of what I am paying THEM to do? If they are as good as they say, they should be able to sell with their charm and good looks alone."

"What is the sales department budget? 0! Sales people need to pay for themselves!"

"I only hire sales people with a book of business/contacts they can call on"

If you agree with any of these statements, maybe YOU are the problem!!!

The Fisherman

There once was a great fisherman named Ned. Over the years Ned had earned a reputation through winning competitions all over the world. He was considered a master angler able to locate and catch almost any kind of fish known to man.

After years of tournaments, being a guide, and teaching others to fish, Ned needed a change. A normal quiet job (still in the fishing industry) sounded like a nice break.

One day the perfect opportunity presented itself. He found a small fish market looking to hire someone to transport fish from the dock to the market. The owner needed a full basket of fish every day and was willing to pay $5 per fish.

The owner sells fish from $10-$30 per fish pending on what kind it is.

The best part was that every morning, there was a full basket of fish brought in from a local non-profit fishing group. The types of fish varied, but Ned didn't have to worry about that. His pay was still $5 per fish. So, every day he went to the dock, picked up the basket of fish and delivered it to the market. The owner would count the fish and pay him accordingly, and Ned would have the rest of the day to do as he pleased. He even had time to make some extra cash on the side as a guide if he felt inspired to do so. Life was good.

Note: (Here is how the numbers work)

A basket holds about 50 fish.
At $5 per fish, Ned makes $250 per day.
Minus 30% for taxes, still gives him $175 per day.
At $10-$30 per fish, the owner could gross $500-$1500 per basket. With only a $250 pay out, he was making a great profit off of Ned.

This went on for a month until one day something happened. The non-profit company leaving the fish for the market decided to donate half of the catch to the homeless. This only left half a basket for the market. So, Ned took the half basket to market and explained to the owner that this was all there was. The owner didn't seem overly concerned. He counted the fish and paid accordingly. Which was only half what was normal.

The next 10 days in a row, the same thing happened. This was now becoming a problem. Ned was only making half as much, and the owner was starting to complain that he wanted full baskets. He told Ned "I need you to go find a way to fill the rest of this basket each day. I hired you because of your claims to being a fishing expert, ability to catch fish when nobody else can, and the long term benefit of you being able to train new people to do the same if we grow big enough to have a need to hire more fisherman. So, I am putting this in your hands. Go prove yourself.

I will make this worth your effort by not putting a limit on how much money you can make. You can bring me as many fish as you catch and I will pay for every one of them.

This sounded great. No cap on his income, and he starts each day with half a basket. Unfortunately, also that same day, he found out that the non-profit was no longer donating fish to the market. So, he was going to have to do this all on his own. There wasn't even a half basket guarantee anymore.

The Fisherman part 2

Everything looks good on paper. It's now your responsibility to decide if you fail or succeed. Sales people are supposed to pay for themselves.

Fresh start: (New day. New responsibilities and possibilities.)

Day 1: Wicked storm makes it impossible to fish off the dock. (No fish. No pay)

Day 2: Found sign on dock "catch and release area only" (No fish. No pay)

Day 3: Ned decides to have a meeting with the owner to discus the need for a company boat, gas, bait, fishing poles and a depth finder. He has most of this, but why should he have to wear out his stuff to build someone else's company?

Note: Because he is an expert fisherman, he knows exactly what to do to bring the owner more money. He presents options to the owner based on what he knows he is capable of doing if he is given the tools he needs.

This is the idea he shares with the boss: (2 ways we can approach it)

#1. Go after the fish that sell for $30. They are a little harder to catch and require more time and gas because they are out in deeper water. However, I know I can average 30-50 of this type per day. At $30 per fish, you make $900-$1500 gross.

#2. Go after the ones that sell for $10. They are easier and closer in so they cost less to go after but require 3 times as many fish to make the same profit. I know I can average 50-70 of this type per day. At $10 per fish you only make $500- $700 gross, but with less overhead.

Ned's conclusion: I could make you more money by going for the better fish if you are willing to spend a bit more on gas and give me a pay plan worth doing it. After all, I am no longer picking baskets up off the dock. I am now spending the entire day utilizing a skill that few others have on my level.

If the boss liked this proposal, it actually sounded very inspiring to Ned. It would allow him to be more engaged in the growth of the business, and he would feel more like a partner then just a worker. It was exciting to present and he was anxious to hear what the owner thought.

Unfortunately, the owner responded with "I simply don't have the budget for any of that. In fact, you should be willing to provide your own equipment. This is a paid for performance position. I don't pay if you don't produce. The fishing department needs to pay for itself based on what you bring in. The reason I offer you the uncapped commission structure is so you can make enough money to off set your costs. I know you claim that with the proper pay and equipment you will bring me a huge ROI.

I know you have documented proof you have done it elsewhere. However, I need you to prove it to me before I invest in you. So, it's up to you. The best part is that I'm not holding you back. Whether you fail or succeed, you are in control. It's completely in your hands."

After Ned leaves the meeting, the owner thinks to himself "Wow. I'm such a great leader. My tactics are genius. I challenged his ego a bit and then inspired him by allowing him to make unlimited money based on his performance. I'm quite the motivator."

Day 4: (Reality) Ned puts $75 worth of gas in his boat, buys $25 worth of live bait, and sets off to go fishing feeling lower than whale s***. He is now investing in his J.O.B. as if he were a partner but is being looked at as less then an employee. He has no salary, no benefits, and he now feels used and taken advantage of by the owner. (Opposite of what the owner thinks about the results of his leadership/motivational speech)

He decides to play it safe by fishing the easy stuff. After all, he gets paid the same for the $10 fish as the $30 ones. Why spend more to catch and make less. So, he catches a full basket of $10 fish. Which, again, is around 50 fish.

He calculates his day:

$5 each gives him $250.
He puts 30% away for taxes which leaves him with $175.
However, He now has to account for the $100 he spent on gas and bait.
He is left with $75 profit.

Day 5: Ned struggles to get out of bed to go fishing. He has no inspiration at all. He invests his $100 in gas and bait and sets out to go after the small stuff again. This time, however, he seems distracted. He spends a lot of time thinking about how he could convince the owner to share some costs and let him do it right. By the end of the day, he notices that his lack of motivation has lead to a lack of focus on fishing, which has lead to half a basket instead of a full one.

He calculates his day:

25 fish times $5 is $125.
30% to taxes leaves him $87.50.
He spent $100 on gas and bait.
He looses $12.40.

By the time he reaches the market, he is furious. He is about to give the owner an earful. Luckily the owner is gone for the day so an assistant counts the fish and pays him. The reason he was lucky the owner was gone is that he would have left the market without a job that day. When he got home, he opened his bills and realized that if he didn't start making money immediately he would loose his boat and his house. To stay current, he needed to make the same profit he did when he started. "At least I still have a job."

The Fisherman part 3

Inspiration will always bring you better results than desperation.

Conundrum: (The trap)

"I have to catch just over a basket and a half to equal the same money I was making at the beginning due to my new overhead. This means I am going to have to be on top of my game and focus on fishing hard every day.

Day 6: Ned jumps out of bed early and is ready to go. The problem is that it isn't out of inspiration today. Instead, it's desperation. As he hits the door, the phone rings. It's the owner. He says to Ned "I noticed that the first day you brought a full basket, but it was all $10 fish. That is o.k. but it really won't help me grow. What I'm concerned about is that on the second day you brought half a basket of $10 fish. This is simply unacceptable. I can't make a big enough profit on a half basket of $10 fish to justify keeping you. So, I suggest you either bring 2 baskets per day of the $10 fish, or go catch 1 basket of $30 fish. To motivate you, I'll pay $1 more per fish if you go after the $30 fish. If you are as good as you claim, you should be able to bring just as many $30 fish as $10 fish anyway. So, there is a little perk for ya."

As the owner hung up the phone, he felt great. "I'm a genius" He thought that his little speech must of sent Ned out the door motivated like never before. After all, he just offered him a raise. Also, if the baskets are all $30 fish, he will make twice as much off of Ned then at the start.

On the other end, instead of hanging up the phone, Ned sent it through the air and into the wall. Shattering it in pieces. He walked out the door kicking over everything in sight. He stormed down to his boat and put $125 of gas in it this time. "I'll show him. I'm going to go get a basket of $30 fish just this once to shut him up and prove to him I can do it."

As the day went on his anger grew. He couldn't concentrate on fishing. In the end, he only caught half a basket. When he brought it to market, the owner said "Well, it's only half a basket, but it's $30 fish. So, this is more expectable. Also, I think this is a good learning experience for you. I bet by the end of the week, you will be bringing me full baskets or more. That extra dollar per fish will start to ad up soon."

Ned was so defeated, he didn't even have the energy to argue. The owner was, again, extremely pleased with his motivational skills. He was able to inspire Ned to go after the better catch. "I should do motivational seminars" he thought.

On the way home, Ned started calculating his loss:

25 fish at $6 each is $150.
30% tax leaves $105.
He spent $150 on gas and bait,
It cost him $45 to go to work today.

Not only did he loose money, it seems he proved nothing to the boss. In fact, he thinks he is a rooky with things to learn about fishing.

"This was a good learning experience. I bet you will catch full baskets by the end of the week?" This is the most insulting thing that has ever been said to him.

Day 7: Ned wakes up late with a hang over. He decides to call in and quit. However, his phone is broken. So, he goes down to the market to do it face to face. On the way he contemplates how he will put the owner in his place. He decides, however, that it is better to be polite, professional and not burn any bridges. So, he resigns peacefully.

As Ned leaves, the owner thinks to himself :

"Why can't I find a fisherman that can deliver?"

"Those fisherman are just lazy con artists. They convince me they can fish. I hire them. Then they catch nothing"

"My motivation was perfect and easy to understand. Catch fish. Keep your job"

"I offer uncapped income potential through a huge commission structure and they still can't catch fish."

"I don't pay fisherman unless they produce."

"I'll go find someone willing to do it for $4 per fish. Boy, those fisherman are a real headache to deal with. They have no appreciation for the opportunity I'm offering them"

Moral of the story:

Give a business owner a basket of fish, and he will make a profit for a day. Give a business owner a master fisherman, and he will loose both the basket of fish and the fisherman through poor leadership and motivation skills.

What Motivates Him/Her?

I was asked this question. How important is praise for sales people as opposed to or in conjunction with monetary incentives?

My answer was:

The answer requires study and hard work on the part of us sales managers and owners. First and foremost, each person responds different based on personality. There are lots of personality type casting systems out there. We use them to categorize prospects and pick sales people that we think are likely to succeed. It should also be used to determine how to motivate them.

I like the Enneagram type casting system. It recognizes 9 personality types that are based on how each person views the world stemming from childhood development to adult experiences. This system digs to the root of what motivates each person based on that Enneagram type. It also gets deep into how each type will react to pressure, stress, praise...We all respond different to the same situations, so as managers we should be aware of how to motivate each person individually if possible. (Unless your staff is too big)

I have been using this system as a tool to motivate my sales people on an individual basis.

Examples: #3's are motivated by competition, success, and anything that enhances their image. (#3's are usually good sales people.) They hate being reprimanded and love being praised. If they know they will receive praise, attention, and prizes for hitting numbers, they will work even harder then for just cash. Its the "image/ego/competition" more then the money that drives them. Other numbers actually respond poorly to praise.

An 8 couldn't care less about the pat on the back. In fact, they find you week for doing it. They want power and control of their environment. They will succeed just to earn the right to tell everyone to shut up. You actually can motivate these people with negative reinforcement as long as it doesn't attack their control of their world. These are the few people that when they ask you what the incentive is, you can say "your job" and they actually will respect and respond well to that. (Never could see why that would motivate anyone, but it does for 8's)

A 5 typically wants to watch from behind the scenes, collect the money quietly, and marvel in what they accomplish alone. They don't want to be singled out. It really is about the money with them. They don't want to let other people in close to them, so they get uncomfortable with public praise. I just give them a nod, a quiet smile between him/her and me, and the bonus check without others around watching. Like it is a secret, because they value their privacy.

6's on the other hand value loyalty. So much, in fact, they constantly test you on it. Praise can come off as fake, phony or not genuine in some situations. So I motivate them by earning my respect with some gesture of personal loyalty to them as apposed to public praise.

The short answer is, Everyone is motivated to do the same tasks for different reasons. It is my job as a manager to find those reasons.

"Motivate unto others the way THEY want to be motivated"

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