Andy Stanley, pray he doesn't go astray.

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Pray that Andy Stanley doesn't become a New Age leader.

Andy Stanley, pastor of Northpoint Church the 3rd most influential church in America is under spiritual pressure to lead the flock in the wrong direction! Many other influential leaders have already fallen into New Age doctrines.
This article is not meant to be an attack or a smear campaign against Andy Stanley, it is meant to be a warning and a call to pray for his protection because of the very real presence of seducing spirits who subtly attempt to steer us all away from Jesus Christ and to have us bring weak philosophies, anecdotes and false gospel to those we desire to witness to.

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Andy Stanley's "a new you resolution"

Reviewing Andy Stanley's 2010 Message
For Northpoint Church video link "a new you resolution"

Andy starts off his message talking about New Year's resolutions and goals. Sadly, none of the "high level" goals he mentions include being more like Christ. Andy then highlights worldly entertainers, athletes, politicians and their success, talking about them as if they were supernatural, and I quote "think about the politicians,the entertainers and the athletes that dwarf us mere mortals in terms of talent, their power, their money,and the things that they possess, the people they get to hang-out with ". He goes on to describe these idols as "people who have made it" as if these secular stars are something to model ourselves after.

The picture Andy is painting is an unfortunate contradiction with the following bible verse Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon (riches or treasure). You see, the love of power and success and money is contrary to God's plan. What Andy does highlight is that the people that become involved with extraordinary success, power or money are many times ruined in some way because of their lack of character to handle it. This is why it is important to have Christ's character first, because with His character you can handle whatever comes your way. His plan for you may not include power, and money but if it does His character will help you to use them for the benefit of others and not ourselves alone.

To model ourselves after Christ is easier than we think. It's just like the Old Hymn: He is the potter I am the clay mold me an make me after thy will, while I am waiting, yielded and still. It sounds more like an operation than a personal performance doesn't it? You don't have to get good to get God. He is the one that performs not you. He performs an internal make-over with the added benefit of you never needing an external one!

It is not about self-focus, self-direction and self-effort instead it is about Christ and the path He has selected for us. Psalms 37:23 A righteous man's steps are ordered of the Lord . There's no need to plan who you want to be, if you surrender to Him, God will birth in you who He wants you to be which is more like Jesus. This is the New Birth (Born Again) process.

Mormon Leadership Principles For Christians?

Discernment - Spiritual

Andy's source of guidance for this message comes partially from LDS Preacher Stephen Covey's book The 7 Habits of Highly Successful People, which Andy said he devoured. For those of you who don't know, Stephen Covey is a devout Mormon. In my experience, Mormon's are interested in being successful in what I would describe as worldly measures (financial, higher education, positions of power) which as you can see has consistently been Andy's focus throughout the message. See the pictures of Stephen Covey as featured in Success Magazine! Evangelical writer Bill Gordon, suggests that Mormon theology and cultural practices undergird Covey's writing for a general audience. In addition to The Seven Habits of Highly Successful People, Covey has also written several devotional works for Latter-day Saints or Mormon readers. After studying these books Bill Gordon reports "Covey's beliefs about salvation are also uniquely Mormon. He warns his readers against seeking "any kind of 'special' relationship" with Jesus Christ. [Divine Center, pp. 67-68.]" So it is under Stephen Covey's non-Christian beliefs and seductive reasoning that Andy plots his own direction after "weeks of thinking and thinking and thinking". The obvious danger here is when our walk with God becomes12 inches to high (the distance between our heart and our mind). If we really listen, our hearts are crying out something quite different and is more likely revealed through prayer than thinking and thinking and thinking.

If we are not following Christ we are following the blind

When we get lost in fear.

For some reason, Andy follows the Mormon author's mind bending philosophy instead of the solid biblical doctrine of salvation and transformation. We are all at risk of following blindly, we have all at one time or another followed the blind or suffered from deception and Andy is no exception. He continues, describing that personal failure is a bigger problem to him than sin. In essence, his personal success is more important than what God thinks about sin. I don't think preacher Stanley knew it but this accidental confession is an example of how our own fears - in this case the fear of failure and the desire of our flesh to be righteous, pridefully rises up and says no to God's love (most likely because we believe through past abuse that we are not worthy of it). The path I see away from this display of our flesh's prideful rebellion is to realize that we are not righteous (not one of us) then humble ourselves and receive the love of God that we so desperately need. When we do this, receive God's love that is, it casts out the fear and we are no longer controlled by fear but motivated by love. 1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love

Is Hard-wiring Your Conscious Mind a Good Idea?

I believe that Andy was mistaken in his belief about hard-wiring his conscious mind, and that given the chance to review this he would likely not recommend it. What I felt was being presented is dangerous personality and behavior modification not genuine Christian transformation! Satan wants you, Andy and everybody else off track. He wants you to live in your head and not in your heart preferring that you use visualization, behavior modification, a hardwired sub-conscience and New Age psychobabble. What thwarts the Devil's work is when you connect with your heart, and receive God's love because that is what breaks the Devil's ability to enslave and manipulate you with the puppet strings of fear. If you look into your own past you will see this to be true because when you were no longer afraid of your obstacle you confronted it and grew beyond the fear held boundaries of the old you!

Not A Self Directed But A Christ Directed Life

Say a prayer for Christian Stanley

Here are my final thoughts with some important scriptures on the topic. Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

It is my personal belief in regards to this message that Andy Stanley missed an opportunity to preach the simplicity that is in Christ - the simplicity that Andy himself taught about in the Salvation message "It's No Mistake", preached in 2006. A simple gospel and plan of salvation that explains about a Christ directed life not a self-directed one. Not about our thoughts but about His thoughts. Not about our plans but about His plans. Reinforcement that who we should be is more like Jesus not a more self-pleasing, people pleasing, visualized version of ourselves.

Remember that the path away from fear and enslavement is through God's perfect love. Receive it. He loves you!

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    considerthis Dec 25, 2011 @ 10:10 am | delete
    I agree with Matthew's February post. The writer of this article totally misunderstood Andy's message and goes way in-depth about something that was never said or implied by Andy. The article paints a totally wrong picture that could mislead many people into forever having a negative bias toward a quite biblically sound pastor. That is dangerous and I'm saddened by this. No offense, sir.

    Andy is illustrating the tendency of "politicians, athletes, and entertainers" to squander and misuse their success as a result of "deciding what you want to do before you have determined who you want to be" (Andy Stanley's words). I'm curious why the writer didn't comment on that part. The claim is that Andy is suggesting to look up to these people, but on the contrary, he points out that when their marriages fail, etc., we wonder how they could have gotten to that point with all their supposed power and credibility. He then rightly points out that the reason this happens is that they failed to determine who they want to be (in their character) before they reached their success, causing things to crumble.

    Andy's message is about building a foundation on a rock rather than sand. Its all in there, if anyone cares to go back and watch it again without bias. : (

    I humbly encourage people to always check things out for themselves, don't take everything you read at face value, and never forget that anyone can be mistaken at any time, because none of us are perfect.
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    yourgoldenfuture Mar 20, 2011 @ 5:53 am | delete
    Its always difficult to critique a pastor ... look at David and Saul...David was not killing Saul...he believed God would do the right thing. On the other hand your are right to warn of this mormon teachings. We are called to take the tree out of our own eyes before judging the brother...
    This "success-teaching"-stuff came over to Germany a long time ago too. Lots of controversy here about that. Its not wrong to challenge people to get out of their comfort-zone - but not for egoistic reasons...
    Just look at the lives of those preachers ... they will show you if they are real or not...There is not good fruit from a bad tree...
    The lens is good...thumbs up
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    Widemouth Mar 20, 2011 @ 4:08 pm | delete
    Thank-you for your detailed comment and encouragement. As you can see if you read below you are definitely in the minority category with me. I'm happy to have some company. Cheers!
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    Matthew Feb 24, 2011 @ 1:08 am | delete
    I believe where the writer of this post is miss guided, is the fact that they are taking Andy's message out of context.

    Northpoint Church is not a church for churched people. It is a church for the lost. If you have a non-Christian enter the doors of your church, will you lead a message that speaks of biblical heros such as Job or Esther? If you do, you will quickly lose the connection with the struggling non-believer. I do not feel that Pastor Stanley was at all idolizing those individuals, but instead, speaking what we all feel about them lots of times. Whether it be the beautiful, in shape girl on the magazine you are reading, or your favorite contestant on American Idol, we all have those moments when we place a mere mortal on a pedestal for a reason that is outside the context of our faith.

    You believe that his message is out of line, but I believe that is was relayed perfectly to the target audience, non-Christians. It gave them something they could understand, a pivotal part of the message they could grasp to make the connection to life-change. Near the end of the message, Andy informs the church that the significants between those earthly "idols" and the person that God wants us to be are related. That just like the person who is great at singing and performing strives to be the best, God also wants us to strive to be the best.. Or as he puts it "you will discover that God is actually working with you to become the person He designed you to be" and "that you will be working in sync with the Holy Spirit". He goes on to say that when you get over wanting all the stuff of this world basically, at the end of the day, if you are living a life seeking Christ, you will want to live the life he has designed for you.

    I in no way believe that he is leading his church, Christians or non-Christians, into believing he thinks they should be rich, famous, or popular. As someone well versed in the faith, a critique like that about this message is highly possible. Because honestly, this message was never really designed for your level of maturity in your relationship with Jesus Christ. Which is great!

    I too believe that we must keep a keen eye out for false doctrines (because the Word tells us too), but as a member of Buckhead Church, I do not believe this one of Andy's messages, or any other I have been exposed to in the last 4 years are in anyway misleading towards true Christianity.
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    yourgoldenfuture Mar 20, 2011 @ 5:57 am | delete
    Jesus said very clear: Follow me and take up your cross. This "nice gospel" / church -thing is not biblical. The sinner comes to a church to get the truth clear and straight - not a watered nice and easy gospel. The sinner will enjoy tp hear about Hiob...God brought him there to hear it...
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