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THE PIES ARE BACK IN TOWN!
Notts County are back in pre-season training, complete with high quality new signings, new backroom staff, a new pitch and the Spion Kop will be for home supporters from this coming season.
Notts are back in business and chairman John Armstrong-Holmes has his heart on his sleeve as always. It's incredibly powerful having a real fan in the hot seat.
Not only those things build the excitement. It's also a fabulous feeling to know that the youth team is back under the watchful eye of Mick Leonard, the former Notts 'keeper, who is in charge of the re-establishment of the Centre of Excellence.
The club has a great buzz about it once more, with former stars flocking back to the Lane to help in the club's hour of need. With Charlie (Ian McParland) in charge of the team, with Dave Kevan and fans' favourite Tommy Johnson heavily involved too.
The season ticket sales are on the up, with the return of the Kop into Magpies fans domain a major selling point...there is even a fund to have a giant flag made for the Kop fans to use both home and away...8m square no less!
Stay with us for all the latest from Meadow Lane as one of the most exciting phases in our histroy begins!
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NOTTS COUNTY HISTORY VIDEO
FROM NOTTS' DARKEST HOUR...
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MANNA FROM HEAVEN
by David Stoakes
In the fifties and early sixties the crowd at Meadow Lane bombarded the home goalkeeper with missiles when he came out for the start of the match. Notts normally kicked in towards Spion Kop.The missiles in question were sweets and chocolates, and as a young boy at the time it was something I gave no particular thought to although I have memories of Gordon Bradley putting the airborne goodies in his baggy flat cap.
It was only the other day it struck me what an incredibly generous gesture this was by the fans. For this still was the age of rationing and sugar was one of the things obtained with coupons.
A question on a TV quiz recently asked when sugar rationing ended. The answer was 1955 so effectively the supporters were delivering something of real value. Presumably the cap was emptied in the dressing room and the contents shared out among the team.
The practice continued into the sixties when objects with more sinister intent began to be hurled from the terraces.
In a similar vein it set me thinking about other things which you never see at football grounds today. Very often there was a designated local charity of the week and at half time a team of men with a heavy grey army blanket would go right round the touchline as people threw coins into the half folded sheet.
And at full time there was the invasion of the home made trolleys as an army of kids scoured the terraces for discarded pop bottles. There was money back at the corner shop on the discarded dandelion and burdock, sarsparilla and lemonade containers.
Braver young souls also ventured into the stands in pursuit of the bottles and they were agile enough to evade all attempts by the ferocious breed of steward Notts employed in those days.
Most of them seemed to be disgruntled demobbed drill sergeants still desperate for somebody to bully.
And of course there was Ivor Thirst on top of the old scoreboard ready to twirl his rattle if Notts scored a goal. There was also the peculiar half time sight of a cavalcade of little blue invalid carriages revving up to trundle round the pitch to take up position either side of the goal Notts would be kicking towards in the second half.
I forget now which it was but every year one of the Guards regiments had a recruiting week in Nottingham and provided the musical entertainment at both Meadow Lane and Forest on two Saturdays. How much their efforts affected attendance figures I don't know.
Sepia images then from what now seems like another age. And don't go throwing Smarties and Mars Bars at Pilkington. You'll get chucked out
NOTTS COUNTY FIRST TEAM SQUAD 2008-2009
WHO'S WHO AT MEADOW LANE?
Goalkeepers:Kevin Pilkington
Russell Hoult
Defenders:
Michael Johnson (Pictured)
Adam Tann
Paul Mayo
Mike Edwards
Steve Hunt
Midfielders:
Adam Nowland
Gavin Strachan
Jay Smith
Neil McKenzie
Carol Vorderman
Myles Weston
Richard Butcher
Forwards:
Jamie Forrester
Stef Frost
Spencer Weir-Daley
HISTORY NOTES: NOTTINGHAM'S FOOTBALL PAPERS
Another great 'Blast from The Past' ...courtesy of Dave Stoakes
Dave is a lifelong Notts supporter, and a retired journalist. He will be writing occasional articles for the Notts Trust page in the official match programme, and these will also appear on Squidoo.Every Saturday night in the football season groups of blokes and lads sent by their Dad congregated in the light streaming from the window of the their local newsagent's shop.
This was in the decades of the fifties and sixties when the football papers were in their heyday.
Unlike now, most cities the size of Nottingham had two evening papers and that meant circulation wars. It was the Evening News against the Evening Post, and it was a weekly race to get the paper on the streets as soon as the final whistle blew.
In the age of the Internet and 24 hour sports TV channels it is hard to imagine today how important the Football News and the Football Post were in those days.
Most people relied on the 5pm reading of the results on Sports Report on the radio, but if your team was away you often did not know who the scorers were until either the green van of the News or the dark blue of the Post came round the corner.
The vans raced from the Post offices next to the Theatre Royal and the News on Parliament Street to be the first to deliver to Market Square. Victoria and Midland stations were also a prime target because most people then did not have cars.
They spread out all over the county, and further afield to Grantham and even Skegness.
Mansfield was a particular target. Both papers had satellite printing presses in the railway arches in the viaduct as you go into the town where they could run off the late results.
The road itself was extremely narrow, and at one stage the circulation war got very fierce.
It was claimed the News sent an empty van ahead of the one with the precious football papers to block the road if the Post got there first.
They also faced competition from outside Nottingham. The papers were often printed in distinctive colours and the Sheffield 'Green Un' enjoyed some popularity. The News was pink and broadsheet and the Post conventional white and tabloid.
The news, of course had the redoubtable Colin Slater covering Notts in the sixties and the Post David Stapleton. His dad Albert Stapleton did Forest in what must have been an unique double anywhere in the country. The papers were eventually merged and the race for the shops and the street sellers came to an end.
One of the features of both papers were the letter writing wars which sometimes went on for weeks. The Internet has long since put paid to that.
One of the big features of every new season was the pocket sized Football Post Guide with all the fixtures, statistics, and shiny pictures of all the club squads in the middle. I have got a few old copies.
I counted up the Notts squad in one of them and the team picture had 38 players in it.
Dave Stoakes
NEIL WARNOCK'S NOTTS COUNTY MEMORIES
AN INTERVIEW WITH A MODERN-DAY MAGPIES LEGEND
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- BBC Neil Warnock Interview
- Neil Warnock guided Notts County to successive promotions in the early nineties, taking Notts to Wembley for the first time.
COLIN SLATER, COMMENTATOR!
THE VOICE OF NOTTS COUNTY
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- The Colin Slater M.B.E Download Page on 'Up The Maggies'
- Vintage BBC radio Nottingham audio files of Notts County FC action.
- BBC - Features - Why I love Colin Slater
- Rich Fisher celebrates the legend that is BBC Radio Nottingham's Colin Slater.
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YOUPIES! THE MATCHDAY CHATROOM
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NOTTS ON VIDEO
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A small collection of video content from YouTube featuring The Magpies, including three spectacular trademark goals from ex-Notts player Stefan Oakes
BLAST FROM THE PAST - OCTOBER 1975 - LEEDS UTD. vs. NOTTS COUNTY
Kindly contributed by David Stoakes a.k.a. 'Magwales'
No doubt in it's day it had been a triumph of engineering, but the bus carrying Notts County supporters off the motorway on the outskirts of Leeds was definitely past its sell by date.It was wheezing its way to a night which will always be special in the hearts of older Magpies fans.
In October 1975 Notts were to play the then mighty Leeds United in the League Cup at Elland Road - Bremner, Madeley, Hunter and company.
Along with another Notts fan I had dashed across from Manchester where I worked with another Notts supporter, and we stopped on the outskirts of Leeds. And that was when we saw the bus, which looked as if it had left Nottingham about three days previously the speed it was doing.
We got to Elland Road over an hour later - just as the charabanc arrived. The occupants trooped off, and looked as if they had pushed it the last ten miles, or it might have been something they had eaten!
But the Notts fans were there, and they had come in numbers. There were an estimated 7,000 in a crowd of 17,000. You can't help wondering where some of them are these days.
Everything was not quite as it seemed with the Notts side. Les Bradd explained:"Pedro Richards was not available and the late Bill Brindley had played in a reserve game the previous day and was nursing a leg injury, but he was going to play.
"We went to our hotel and had lunch and I was sharing a room with Bill. I was told to get him to get his head round the fact he was marking Eddie Gray."
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Picture: The late, great Bill Brindley
BLAST FROM THE PAST - OCTOBER 1975 - LEEDS UTD. vs. NOTTS COUNTY
CONTINUED.....
It soon became obvious that Notts on the night were more than a match for Leeds United. The welcome they got when they came out visibly lifted them, and some of the players were clearly taken aback by the wall of noise which greeted them from the large Nottingham contingent.At half time it was 0-0 and Les recalls:"We should have been ahead by then because I was fouled in the box, and it should have been a penalty. The referee was Jack Taylor and whenever I have seen him since I have accused him of favouring the big side that night."
The Notts supporters were relishing the idea of taking Leeds back to Meadow Lane, but then Ian Scanlon and four other players sprung the Leeds offside trap and he powered home a header.
The ball lodged behind the back stanchion in front of the Notts supporters.
Les said:"We all looked to the left to the linesman but the flag stayed down. We battled it out for the last ten minutes, and the first person to come into the dressing room to congratulate us was Jimmy Armfield, the Leeds manager."
But Leeds got their revenge a few months later when they knocked Notts out of the FA Cup.
Jimmy Sirrel's only recorded comment on the triumph was "I always fancied having a go at that lot."
Footnote: the following week Jimmy resigned as manager of the Magpies.
Picture: The Infamous Billy Bremner
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MEADOW LANE
HOME OF THE MAGPIES SINCE 1910
Notts County's 20,000 seat Meadow Lane Stadium is of the 'traditional' four-stand construction, rather than the boring fishbowls we tend to see springing up all over the place. Because of this it has a proper football ground feel to it.
Here's a map to show you where all the parts of the ground are that you may have read about on here!
Here's a map to show you where all the parts of the ground are that you may have read about on here!
THE DAY OF NOTTS' RECORD HOME ATTENDANCE...OVER 47,000 AT THE LANE!
by Dave Stoakes
I wonder how many of the older Notts supporters were in the club's record crowd. These days it is bound to be a dwindling number, and I am one of them.When you are barely into double figures in years, as I was in March 1955, it is almost impossible to imagine your heroes can lose.
Notts were on a cup run and hopes were running high that it was going to be our year. The adventure started at Middlesbrough with a convincing 4-1 away win. But the belief really began to grow after a 1-1 draw at Sheffield Wednesday before the Owls were beaten 1-0 in the replay at Meadow Lane.
It hit fever pitch when the mighty Chelsea were beaten 1-0 in front of 41,930 on February 19.
Notts were drawn against the season's giant killers York City and I had little doubt from what the grown ups around me at home were saying that the Magpies were destined for the semi-finals at least.
But that bitter March Saturday afternoon Notts were to break my heart for the first - but like all of us - by no means the last time.
The match is memorable for a number of things, not least the record crowd of 47,310. The attendance was undoubtedly several thousand larger because the fencing round the ground was by no means secure particularly at the Spion Kop end, and in those days policing was minimal.
The York fans were determined to make a day of it, many of them travelling on overnight trains to Victoria and Midland stations, and they were wandering up and down London Road before 8am.
And we kids were to discover they were very welcome visitors indeed. Sweets rationing had only ended the year before, and they were still a luxury even if your mum and dad could afford them.
Large numbers of the York support worked in the chocolate factories and they brought goodies in abundfance with them. They were allowed to take home the misshapen products not deemed good enough for the shop shelves. The Rowntree machinery seemed to have had a particularly bad week in anticipation of the cup tie! he generous visitors dished them out liberally.
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RECORD CROWD OF 47,310 FILLS MEADOW LANE
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Inside the ground one large group of York supporters formed a red line right across the middle of the Kop. Not a pretty sight. They also paraded a large cartoon style banner portraying their conquests from previous rounds.The last section had a caged bedraggled Magpie with a space left blank for the score to be added later.
Notts had plenty of chances and listening to the home crowd there seemed little to fear.
Unfortunately Gordon Bradley, Notts goalkeeper and later Northern Ireland tennis coach, had a habit of wandering well off his line.
I watched in dismay as he was lobbed by York's Arthur Bottom while he was somewhere near the penalty spot, and 20 minutes later Notts were out of the cup.
The York fans went on their way, still dispensing chocolate. Yes I was in the record crowd but for me it will always be a bitter sweet day.
Footnote: York lost to Newcastle United ina replay, and the Toon Army went to Wembley to see the other Magpies pick up the cup.
With many thanks to Dave Stoakes
MEADOW LANE LOONIES part two
by DAVID STOAKES
loonies continued....At the first home match there was considerable speculation as to what Malcolm would make of this. At the time it was controversial in the same way as Jason Lee coming to us now before becoming a hero. After the initial cheer for the side coming out died down a voice in the crowd shouted "Nah then Malc. What dost mek of ah Sammy nah then?"
Quite a few of the players at the time were local and stopped kicking in to listen to the opinion of the terrace sage.
He had obviously given it thought because he roared back "Same as I've always said about the bogger. Ard but fair, ard but fair." And from that moment on Sammy could do no wrong.
There was a man on the Kop who used to regularly get rid of half a bottle of whisky during the match after chain drinking in the Navigation. He was never seen to go to the toilet and was christened the Bionic Bladder.
Another lad was bewildered when his wife threatened to divorce him because he wanted to rename his house Dunlosin after a particularly successful season.
Then there was the Professor who got his name because he wore a top hat and tail coat to the match. It was nothing to do with Mr Magpie on the banner of the Football Post. That was the way he dressed.
I only saw Notts fans turn in anger once when a Forest supporter nicked his Topper at the local Derby and tried to kick it across the pitch.
People talk about legends on the pitch, but to me it will always be the legends of the terraces. The loonies of the terraces.
Notts County supporters we call overselves.
David Stoakes
MAGPIE MANIA
Notts County Connections...
WELCOME TO THE LINKAGE DEPARTMENT...CHECK THESE OUT!
- Official Club Site
- This site gives you all the latest information on fixtures, players, results and what's current at Meadow Lane.
- BBC Radio Red Token Gesture Page
- Local news coverage of the club, with audio clips of interviews and all the latest opinion.
- Fans' Forum
- This messageboard is the most popular web forum for supporters of the club. Interesting banter and much opinion is found here!
- Tommy Lawton Site
- Tommy Lawton, described by many as England's Finest Centre Forward, joined the club for a world record transfer fee in 1947. Read about the late Tommy - a true star from a less money-obsessed era of the game!
- BBC Virtual Stadium Tour
- Visit our stadium, home to the club since 1910 and take a virual tour which even includes the boot room!
- LIVE League Table
- Sporting Life's amazing live-to-the-minute League Table, which shows you exactly where the Magpies are in the table even as a goal is scored - clever stuff!
- Nottingham Evening Post
- Local 'newspaper' coverage of the Magpies for you!
- Magpies Records
- The heaviest defeat? the longest unbeaten run of games? It's all here!
- You Pies, A Fans View Of Notts County FC
- You pies is a fans view of Notts County Football Club - a truly fantastic site run by a fan!
- Youpies Message Board ~ Index
- Another popular Forum for Notts County Fans
- Welcome to Football, Food and Beaver
- Definitely one for the 'grown up' Pie community this one!
- The Pie - The Original Notts fanzine...on Yahoo
- The Official Notts County Mailing List - Endorsed by The Pie Fanzine
- Notts County ex players - Where are they now?
- Notts County ex players Where are they now?
- Notts County 'Rivals' Site
- Results, fixtures, match reports plus player info, news, facts, and history. Good messageboard too!
MEADOW LANE HERO - TOMMY LAWTON
The Complete Centre Forward
'I've always counted it a privilege to have played with so many great centre forwards. Ted Drake was the first one on my England debut and Tommy took over from him. Then there were Nat Lofthouse and Stan Mortensen. With Tommy I could guarantee he would make contact with nine out of ten crosses in the box. He was simply a brilliant header of the ball.' Sir Stanley MatthewsBorn in Bolton on 6 October 1919, Tommy Lawton signed for Second Division Burnley at the age of 16. His prodigious talent for goal scoring (he was the youngest player ever to score a Football League hat-trick, just four days after his 17th birthday) led Everton to snap him up a year later for £6,500, a sensational fee at the time for any player, let alone a 17-year-old.
Season 1938-39 proved to be his finest as an Everton player, scoring 34 goals in 38 matches as Everton stormed to the Championship. He then scored in each of the first three matches of the 1939-40 season, but the First Division was scrapped when World War II started.
At the end of hostilities, he signed for Chelsea and, in 1946-7, he broke the clubs scoring record with 26 goals in 34 matches. Unhappy at the way the club was being run, he surprisingly asked for a transfer and joined Third Division Notts County for £17,500 in 1947 where he proved an instant favourite, scoring a remarkable 103 goals in 166 appearances.
After ending his playing career with Kettering Town in 1957, Tommy had sealed a reputation as one of the most prolific natural goal scorers the game had ever seen. In 390 league appearances he scored an incredible 231 goals. Tommy Lawton, 'The Complete Centre Forward', died on 6 November 1996 and an army of fans mourned his passing. The stuff of legends, tributes to him poured in to the Nottingham Evening Post.
David McVay, who had also played professionally for Notts. County, and later became a columnist alongside Tommy at the Nottingham Evening Post, wrote: 'The one thing Tommy Lawton earned was respect and that's a commodity money can't buy in these days of multi-million transfer fees and wages . . . he never ducked an issue or flinched a controversial challenge. He was prepared to call a spade a spade and say what he thought about the high and mighty and the humble . . . Tommy Lawton remains a giant in the beautiful game.
Magpie Facts
Interesting (possibly!) Facts and Figures
Notts County was founded in 1862, but Nottingham Forest, our neighbours in the county of Nottinghamshire, are not much younger, the Garibaldi Reds as they are known came along in 1865.Notts County used to play their home games at Trent Bridge, the famous test cricket ground, home of Nottinghamshire CCC.
Notts County were the first club from outside the top tier of the game to win the FA Cup, in 1894, from the second division, this feat was not emulated until 1973, when Bob Stokoe's Sunderland did it!
Notts County are the most promoted and relegated team in the league.
The Italian superclub Juventus wear black and white stripes in honour of their first kit, a gift from Notts County! Before that they wore...pink!
Notts County's all time goal scoring record is held by Les Bradd, with 125 goals for the club.
Although now gone forever, the old Meadow Lane end stand was acquired from Trent Bridge cricket ground and FLOATED across the River Trent to its new home!
Notts County is majority-owned by it's supporters. Through the Notts County Supporters' Trust, the fans own around 60% of the shares and are represented at board level.
The record attendance at Meadow Lane is over 47,000, in a cup game against once-great York City. The ground now has an official capacity of just under 20,000, but at least they all get seats, often generously striped with pigeon excrement.
When Tommy lawton joined the club from Chelsea in the 1940s, his presence on the teamsheet added an extra 10,000 to the attendance of home matches - and on several occasions another 10,000 were locked out as the ground was chock full! What price Michael Owen now?
When Jermaine Pennant was signed by Arsenal from Notts County a few years ago for £2m, he was only 15!
When Anfield superstar Steve Finnan left Notts County for Fulham, there was a sell on clause which meant Notts would have 15% of any future resales of the player, as reward for teaching him. When Notts were in administration recently, they sold out the sell-on clause for £125,000. Shortly afterwards, Steve Finnan joined Liverpool for a reported fee of £12m - Notts lost out big time!
More when I think of some!
Following the 'Pies
Masochism for beginners...
My first trip to watch a football match came in 1972, when my Godfather took me to see his beloved Magpies play at Meadow Lane. All I remember of this is swaying on his shoulders on the old Spion Kop (now replaced by the huge, covered stand housing visiting supporters form other clubs) and how incredibly green the pitch looked under the floodlights!Many years later, I am still addicted to following British football's 'most promoted and relegated team'. That honour should tell you that however unsuccessful the team may be today, they never fail to deliver an interesting rollercoaster ride for their supporters!
I have travelled to football gounds all over England to follow my team, but there is nothing to replace the feeling of seeing them come out of the 'player's tunnel' on to the pitch just before a match, as the rousing music blares from the Tannoy system to build the pre-match atmosphere.
A particular outstanding memory is of Rachid Harkouk scoring at Stamford Bridge against Chelsea in May 1981. This goal took Notts County, founding members of the Football League, back into the top flight of English football for the first time in 55 years!
That moment is almost matched by the spectacle of Notts achieving promotion to the old First Division again in 1991, but this time at the legendary Wembley Stadium, in front of a huge following from Nottingham. This was a critical promotion, as it took us back into what was imminently to become the Premier League, with all the financial advantages that carried.
Our presence in that top flight was not to last, due to the lack of investment on one hand and on the other, because we had to rebuild our stadium to comply with the Taylor Report. This was achieved in record time, but had to be paid for by selling several of the very players who had got us to that elevated league position - Catch 22 strikes again!
Without those stars, who included the mercurial talisman Tommy Johnson, cultured and skilful midfielder Mark Draper and dependable rock of defence Craig Short, Notts were no longer a force capable of competing in the top tier of the game and began a steady tumble down the divisions.
Currently pushing hard in Football League Two, Notts are now proudly based in a stadium which has not once been called upon to hold a capacity crowd. The average attendance at Meadow Lane is now around the 5,500 mark, in a tidy Championship standard stadium capable of holding nearly 4 times that.
You Pies!
EAST MIDLANDS FOOTBALL LINKS
LINKS TO CLUBS AND SITES ON EAST MIDLANDS FOOTIE!
Here you'll find links to all sorts of East Midlands footie related sites. Have a good browse and see how vibrant and rich our footballing tradition is!
Check out the first link for information on 'non-League' clubs too...right down to village level!
- East Midlands Football - Leicester City, Derby County, Forest, Notts County, Chesterield, Stags
- East Midlands Football supporters site, stats, old Premiership and Div One league tables, attendances, plus links to over 750 of the top UK Football sites
- BBC Inside Out - Youth Football in The East Midlands
- Article from BBC web site
- East Midlands Women's and Girls' Football
- Great site for those looking to take part in the game - 'Come on You Ladies!'
- EMTrusts :: East Midlands Football Supporters' Trusts
- East Midlands Football Supporters' Trusts Web Site
- Nottingham Forest FC
- Official Nottingham Forest Football Club website
- Derby County FC
- Official Derby County Football Club website
- Leicester City FC
- Official Leicester City Football Club website
- Mansfield Town
- Official Mansfield Town Football Club website
- Chesterfield FC
- Official Chesterfield Football Club website
- Lincoln City FC
- Official Lincoln City Football Club website
- Northampton Town FC
- Official Northampton Town Football Club website
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