Nuclear Free versus Nuclear Weapons

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Nuclear Free versus Nuclear Power

This debate is a direct result of the current battle to prevent a nuclear meltdown in Japan. This potential meltdown occurred (and is ongoing) after the earthquake of March 11, 2011 which damaged several nuclear reactors in the prefecture of Sendai.

The use of nuclear power is damaging to the human race and to the environment. I am a New Zealand citizen and I am very proud that my country (New Zealand) was the first country to officially and legally declare itself to be nuclear free back in 1987.

Picture source - Copyright to Larry Ross - Nuclear Free NZ

New Zealand was the first country to go Nuclear Free

Nuclear Free Weapons Zones in New ZealandIn 1984 the New Zealand government began demanding foreign ships within the 12 mile exclusive zone, to state whether or not they were nuclear powered or had nuclear weapons on board. The first US Naval vessel to be denied entry to NZ ports was the USS Buchanan in 1985 because it had nuclear warheads on its bombs.

By 1986 a nationwide poll indicated that over 90% of NZ citizens wanted NZ to become nuclear free and so in 1987, the Labour government (Labour being the left wing) passed a law claiming New Zealand to be a nuclear free country. The law specified that ships could not enter the 12 mile exclusive zone unless they proved that the vessel was not powered by a nuclear reactor AND that there were no nuclear weapons on board.

This effectively meant that US military and naval vessels were no longer permitted to enter NZ ports unless they specifically stated that the ship was NOT powered by a nuclear reactor AND did not have nuclear weapons on board. Since the USA had a policy of neither confirming or denying, this effectively meant that ALL US military vessels were banned from NZ ports.

As a direct result of New Zealand's law change, the USA stopped treating NZ as an ally and now ignores NZ in all military and defence policies and situations. The USA has continued to pressure the NZ government into repealing (or cancelling) their nuclear free law. NZ refuses to do so - and we have the right to remain nuclear free. This is how the USA treats any country that passes laws that go against US domestic or foreign policy.

NZ has now been a nuclear free country for over 20 years. This policy has benefited NZ as it contributes in a major way to New Zealands world wide image of being a clean green and safe country.

Picture Source - Copyright to The Peace Foundation

USA and nuclear weapons

Obama prattling on about Nuclear Weapons yet again (March 2010)The US government was not happy with New Zealand's law change at all. They were very upset that one small country chose to take a stance opposing US foreign policy.

Prior to this law being passed, New Zealand, Australia and USA has all been signatories to the ANZUS treaty. This treaty mostly allowed for the 3 countries to conduct military exercises together and to receive military and other intelligence from the USA. After this law was passed, the USA refused to continue honouring its ANZUS treaty obligations to NZ - but NZ has never formally withdrawn from the treaty. NZ was also downgraded from an ally of the USA to just a friendly country. The military combined exercises stopped and the intelligence gathering dried up.

As a result of its nuclear free status, New Zealand will never have a nuclear meltdown accident. Unlike other countries - USA, Russia and Japan - which have ALL had major nuclear accidents. (3 Mile Island, Pennsylvania in 1979, Chernobyl, Ukraine in 1986 and Sendai Prefecture, Japan in 2011). Admittedly the last was caused by a large earthquake but still, the reactor construction should have been done to a MUCH higher standard.

Just remember there is only ONE country in the entire history of this planet who has ACTUALLY DROPPED 2 nuclear bombs on an enemy. And it was not done to stop any war. It was done purely as a show of power. Japan was already in the process of surrendering.

Since the end of WW2, USA has continued to test nuclear weapons. They even tested nuclear bombs in the Australian desert and have refused to pay out any monetary compensation for illnesses and birth defects that have occurred as a direct consequence. This is how the USA treats its allies.

The USA constantly goes on and on about how the world should be a nuclear weapon free planet. BUT until the USA actually and physically destroys its entire nuclear weapon stockpile, then none of the other countries with nuclear weapons (Russia, France, Israel, China, India, North Korea, Pakistan and possibly the UK) will feel safe enough to destroy their stockpiles as well.

Picture Source - CS Monitor Newspaper - March 2010 - see link in last Paragraph above

Nuclear weapons

Should the USA destroy its nuclear weapons first to show that it truely wants a nuclear free planet?

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YES

ravenko says:

They should lead the way and help the other countries get rid of theirs

WebaliciousGuides says:

Yes, but at the same time they should work with other nuclear countries to get rid of theirs as well. There's no justification for nuclear weapons - they can't distinguish between civilians and combatants, meaning thousands of innocent people will die if they're used, not to mention the environmental damage that would be caused. There's no way that it can count as reasonable self-defence.

Helenee says:

Somebody has to do it. Of course, there's a big chance the US would be attacked if it destroyed its nuclear weapons -- on the other hand, perhaps other nations would be more eager to defend the US. As things stand now, sorry, they don't have public opinion by their side...

annmackiemiller says:

well yes but will they - no

nickupton says:

Ideally yes, but US foreign policy has pissed off so many people around the world that it would probably be a signal for its increasing number of enemies to attack.

I admire New Zealand for sticking to its own opinion on this.

NO

Langa95 says:

I believe that we should dispose of all nuclear weapons. However I see this as an unlikely and dangerous target. It only takes one stupid country keeping one to throw global power out of whack. If the US disposed of theirs first they would be the target of bullying from other powers with these weapons. Even though I am not a big fan of the US especially after its terrible tactics in the Cold War I still think that for theirs and the world's safety they should keep their weapons.

karmicchristian says:

Since your question starts with "Should the USA destroy its nuclear weapons first..." My answer would be no. On the other hand we currently have a 'world' body called UNO - which literally has no powers in its hands. A body like the UN should empower itself or be vested with enough powers, to help all the countries to deescalate nuclear arms within set deadlines. That would be a fairer option IMO.

simplyoasis says:

Ideally yes, but realistically... I'm not so sure.

miaponzo says:

Yes, Ideally yes, but realistically... I'm not so sure. This is a very complicated issue.. but I'm going to say, no... just for ultimate safety... although there are many other issue involved here, too. Wow! Complicated!

sandyspider says:

I agree that it has to be a united effort. We can't destroy our nuclear weapons leaving ourselves vulnerable to the enemy.

 
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The Rainbow Warrior bombing

type=textIn 1985 France was deep into its nuclear testing program at Mururoa Atoll in the French Polynesia Islands of the Pacific. Many New Zealanders were taking boats and sailing to the atoll to protest against the tests.

One of the ships that was planning to sail to Mururoa was the Rainbow Warrior - which was owned by the environmental group Greenpeace.

The boat was tied up to a wharf at the Ports of Auckland in New Zealand. On 10 July 1985, 2 bombs ripped through the hull of the Rainbow Warrior sinking it. All but one of the crew managed to get off the boat safely before it sank. The bombing was eventually traced to members of the French Secret Service. At first France denied that it had had anything to do with the bombing. Eventually when confronted with all the evidence, the French Government admitted that it had given the orders.

This bombing on New Zealand soil was a major catalyst to changing peoples minds about nuclear testing. In 1986 a national poll was conducted and the numbers had shown a marked increase from 60% to over 90% of citizens now in agreement about NZ going nuclear free.

Picture Source - Greenpeace - Rainbow Warrior - 1985

WarGames

Back in the early 1980s, the cold war was ongoing and nuclear detente was at an all time high,. The cold war disappeared in 1989 (and 1990) but the nuclear weapons remain.

In 1983 a small movie was released - called War Games - in which a young computer genius accidently almost starts World War 3. Its hard to find this movie on video or DVD, but it is available on Netflix. This movie is now almost 30 years old and one would hope that the human race has learned its lesson. Unfortunately this movie's message is still relevant today. This is the movie trailer.

A strange game (referring to global thermonuclear war).
The only winning move is not to play
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Fukushima Nuclear Reactor - March to May 2011

Fukushima, Japan - Nuclear Reactor Explosion - March 12, 2011 (first pictures of explosion - japanese)
Cooling down the reactors - March 17, 2011
Dr. Michio Kaku analyzes the situation around nuclear power plants in Japan. ABC News - March 25, 2011
Chronology of events at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant.
Radioactive exclusion zone and hot spots around the Fukushima Plants - May 10, 2011
It is OFFICIAL. Fukushima Reactor Number 1 is in a state of Nuclear Meltdown!!!! May 12, 2011 (Thursday)
Radiation spreading from Fukushima down as far as Tokyo and there is now talk of mass evacuations - June 9, 2011
The Ongoing Fallout of Fukushima, and Around the World - Australian documentary - 20 August 2011.
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So what happened at Fukushima?

Fukushima

Graphics source - Fukushima Nuclear Reactor Number

Main Article - National Post Newspaper, Toronto, Canada March 16, 2011

Nuclear free or not - that is the question

So the Question is - Do you think nuclear power (and weaponry) is still the right way for our planet to go or do you think ALL nuclear power (and weaponry) everywhere should be banned permanently?

Should the planet make a serious effort to go Nuclear free?

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YES

ravenko says:

Then it would be a perfect world, if there was a chance of that

karmicchristian says:

In an ideal world. Yes

WebaliciousGuides says:

Yes, more research and investment should be made in renewable energy.

Helenee says:

Is p1$$1ng on our food and bed ok? I believe there are alternative power sources, and I would go 100% with governments asking me to seriously reduce my energy consumption (don't think only of turning on less switches, it goes much much deeper), IF they closed down nuclear plants.

annmackiemiller says:

definately - it is all coming back to bite us

NO

says:

It would be reat if we could just get rid of them, but its not just like some other co8ntries such as north korea would

 
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Nuclear Free Resources

Japan Nuclear Plant Explosion - March 12, 2011
Wikipedia
New Zealand nuclear free zone
Wikipedia
New Zealand - History of the Nuclear Free Zone
Greenpeace website
End the Nuclear Age
Greenpeace website
Nuclear Free New Zealand
A grassroots anti-nuclear movement started in New Zealand by Larry Ross
The Rainbow Warrior Bombing - 1985
Wikipedia
Nuclear Nations and the Nuclear Proliferation Treaty (NPT)
Wikipedia
Fallout - Report on Fukushima - August 2011
60 Minutes Report - from Australia

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  • ravenko Jul 4, 2011 @ 3:40 pm | delete
    Awesome lens what a great subject
  • karmicchristian May 23, 2011 @ 8:49 am | delete
    This lens is a potential bomb, waiting to explode (nuclear or not - I am not clear). :) Great topic. Thanks. :)
  • simplyoasis May 17, 2011 @ 1:20 pm | delete
    Very nice lens, great debate!!
  • Helenee May 17, 2011 @ 8:21 am | delete
    Great subject for a debate, Serenia.
  • celeBritys4africA May 13, 2011 @ 4:34 pm | delete
    Congrats for a fantastic lens.
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