People should have a license to have children

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People should have a license to have children

In today's society, being a parent is not something to take lightly. The future of America rests in large part on the role that the parents play in their children's lives. Just as getting married (which does require a license)should carry with it a lot of serious thought and questioning, so should having a child. Too often, people have children for all the wrong reasons: their parents are begging for grandchildren, their biological clocks and the continuation of their name determines the decision; their religion does not allow for birth control and, perhaps most often, their hormones got the better of them and they were not protected. I have just scratched the surface of all the wrong reasons.

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YOUR TURN! 

People should have a license to have children

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wisdom says:

you should have to have a license to show you are responcible,caring, loving,a good role model, and capible to have a child. however it should be F-R-E-E free.

Debbie says:

This may sound harsh to say but its my opinion. I think there should be a mental compentency evaluation and if they don't pass then they should be sterilized. Some people just don't have enough good common sense to parent a child because they are incompentant and can't even take care of themselves.

Marc says:

The work dis massively overpopulated anyway so anything that will stem the flow of people reproducing has got to be a good thing. Do people have a "right" to procreate? As much as they do for free speech? Yes but just with free speech there are somethings you are not allowed to say, like promoting discrimination or promoting violence. By the same token you shouldn't be allowed to have kids if: You already have 2, you have been proved (by a group of your peers) to be incompetent as a parent, you have been to prison for a violent/sexual,drug offence. Needless to say ANY form of regulation which based your ability to have kids based on genetics/sexual orientation/race directly or indirectly would be wrong wrong wrong.

Dexter the Dexterous says:

Go for it. I can't stand seeing people littering, drawing graffiti, throwing temper tantrums, and not thinking how they are going to raise their children properly if they're going to have kids.

This could be a good idea, but I fear it won't be passed as a law in the United states...

Feydakin says:

If you are on welfare, or any form of supplemental government aid you should not be allowed to get "more" money for having "more" children..

Outside of that, I don't care what you do..

Elena2222 says:

at least a course would help....

indytaylor says:

Crosby stills & Nash - "Teach Your Children Well" Says it all! Parents need to show there children everyday, right from wrong. Walk the walk, not just TALK!

KellyG says:

If we don't cap the growth of the population we will be extinct due to exhausting of natural resources. This will happen faster than you think. The earth can safely sustain 3 billion humans. right now, at 6 billion, we are tilting the teeter totter and the projected 8.9 billion in 2050 is a sure path to extinction. This isn't just about an issue of parenting, if we do not cap the population growth in some way - world wide, we will pass the point of no return.

Cheryl Gi says:

In a sense I agree with your sentiments but a license to have children will not resolve the inherent problems. Just as a marriage license doesn't guarantee a life long relationship.
What is needed is a mandatory parenting course to be developed & introduced during secondary school and then again just prior to marriage. It would need to be comprehensive, covering all issues of concern. And they would have to pass it or repeat it again until they do pass it.

AngelSong says:

definitely. too many children are abused and neglected, and parents are irresponsible and self absorbed.

Astroleo says:

Yes. I had kids young and was not prepared for them. I do my best, but I feel other mums do a better job. A psych test should be applied to see if the parents can put their self thoughts aside and deal with someone who needs you wholly and solely. I have seen kids neglected because their parents are too young/immature to be able to do this. Also kids can be terribly affected if they feel their parents resented them in any way.

Another argument is along the lines of adoption. People who wish to adopt must go through rigorous 'testing' before they are allowed to adopt, so why should that not also apply to everyone. Everything from how stable the home and couple are, to how clean and tidy the house is kept. How many children have you seen living in squalor in developed countries?

One more point is that the poor tend to have more children than the rich. Not saying that money makes better parents, please don't think that. What I mean is that these parent struggle financially to give the children good medical care and educations. Perhaps limiting the number of children some families can have would ease this burden. There is evidence that children of low socio-economic backgrounds are more likely to become burdens on society as they are more likely to drop out of school, and have lower level of numeracy and literacy skills. While this may be a mute point it gives one pause to think seriously about he argument at hand.

Of course the examples of bad parenting abound and licensing may stop this from occurring.

GroovyFinds says:

Absolutely...and a required parenting class while pregnant.

jaydog says:

Yes and no. Yes coz kids will be better looked after. No because parents should have the right to make their won decisions. Also, less teenage pregnancy and accidents. No.

momof2birds says:

I SO agree with PurpleLady! The point comes up as we have our fill of bad and non-parenting. It's really just wishful thinking of course. Like when you see a bad driver or an accident waiting to happen and wonder outloud if they got their license in a Cracker Jack box. Does anyone really want the government taking this over on top of everything else? Today's kids are the result of how they were raised or not raised, as well as the changing mores and attitudes of society, the passivity, lack of a good value system. Even my kids have been affected now that they are out in the world. Yes, I believe there are a lot of 'adults' who should not be having or raising or influencing children. No, I don't know what can be done to improve or reverse the trend, short of a full scale collapse of society's financial, social and physical platform. I do truly believe that we need to be forced to go back to the world of 50 or 75 years ago in many ways. Having less and making do with it makes what we do have more important, including relationships. JMHO

purplelady says:

I often approve comments on this "debate" site to explore what makes a good parent in order to prove my point! I would urge people to read each side.

purplelady says:

"a universally administered birth control, maybe in the water, and "licensees" would be given an antidote"
Not sure that I recall anything about this being the "only way to implement" this as stated by tandemonimom. I only brought this debate up was to put some serious eyes on the need to have good parenting education from a variety of sources. Glad to see the different views and thoughts about this.

calicoskies says:

Yes - I think they should.

paperfacets says:

I think there should be some kind of regulation. Certainly, an age should be defined and then educational consequences. Like tickets and then traffic school as an analogy. There are answers. It might take a long time. No driving and drinking and no smoking in buildings were both long hard fights, but millions of citizens have benefited and millions have changed their opinions on these problems.

mindchanger says:

Wow, how timely is this MonkeyBrain? Could there be a better example of why this position makes sense than OctoMom Nadya Suleman? What was this selfish Angelina Jolee wanta be thinking, assuming she was thinking? The comsumption footprint she has laid down with 14 kids is totally irresponsible. Do the math, if each of these kids has two, three or four kids of their own and then those kids have,and so on. She is going to be responsible for a resource drain on the government, enviroment, food and mineral resources, etc. that is simply hard to imagine. Catholic doctrine is crazy enough, but this is just insanity squared. To qoute Keith O', OcoMom Nadya Suleman, Worst Person in the World.

4reilly1 says:

agreed. The children of today are the society of tomorrow. The undisciplined, taught no values of today children, will be leading our world. I instill the great values of my parents in my son, so that he will be a stable, productive human being. Half of these kids today have already seen trouble, it's awful, and often due to their parents teachings, or lack thereof. Kids are being born by children themselves. If you are going to HAVE a child, then RAISE the child, RESPONSIBLY.

No way, Monkeybrain!

Ysis says:

I'm afraid this is a facistic point of view: only perfect people should live and nobody else. But since we don't really know ourselves, we don't know how our own reactions will be under certain circumstances, how can we say who is capable of being a parent and who is not?
What I strongly believe is in the responsibility that each one of us (and of the state of course) has to support each other. To support the weaker and try to improve one's own self. Many parents are alone! Many couples are alone! Many families are alone! We all share the responsibility of creating a healthy community.
Otherwise, It's so easy to throw the stone!

Li-Li-ThePinkBookworm says:

Government has already abused their power with Social Services, why should we give them MORE power??? It will be worse, soon no one will be able to afford to get a license, much less meet the requirements. Bad, bad, bad idea.

kitty222 says:

I see what you mean; but that leaves a lot of room for "interpretations" by authority. Who decides if and when people get to have children? What are the criteria? Income level, genetics, a certain level of "maturity"? Do we tie them off after they have so many children? How do we enforce it?

Michelle-DS-Fan says:

I understand your point, but a license leaves too much room for abuse of power. Who will determine the qualifications for obtaining the license? And then what guarantees their illogical prejudices won't cloud their judgment? Maybe a better idea would be mandatory parenting classes before and after the child is born.

flipflopnana says:

I totally understand where you are coming from, but our place is not to judge who should and should not have children. I think there could be better ways to help people who do not truly understand what they may doing.

debnet says:

A License? I'm not sure about that. Who are we to determine if someone will make a good parent or not. However, I do think some people should be monitored carefully when they have their first and given support. I'm referring to people who may have some form of special need or severe mental health issue that may impair their judgement. If they cope, excellent. If they don't, then maybe a way should be found to prevent them from having more children... but I have no idea how that could be done.

judyb09 says:

To the person at top of page 3,"belasboutique03" You say Bad parenting makes bratty kids. I agree in a sense,but not entirely. You see bad parenting NOW a DAYS , is CPS not letting you spank your kids (Im not talknig about beating,I mean a good spanking) ,parents these days are too afraid to be GOOD parents,because they have everyone around them saying good parenting is "bad" ,so to me, good parenting is getting to not be allowed anymore. So don't use that argument.

MikeMoore says:

I don't think they should have a license to have children. It's a basic freedom of choice issue, and who would decide which people were suitable, and who weren't? The government? Yeah...I don't trust them to spend our tax dollars properly, let alone choose suitable parents.

WilliamWallace96 says:

ARE YOU INSANE!! first we lisense our cars then houses and
animals!NOw our children. This has not been nessasary for
thousands of years, why on earth should it be nessasary now.
We have bad kids because we no longer beleive in raising adults
but raising tall children. Children who are going to grow
up and make bad desicions are going to do it with or without
being registered. Whats next sterilizing everyone just
because they have the likleyhood to raise an unruly child!
This is a form of absurd socialism that should NEVER
be considered. Lisencing drivers didnt make less accidents
Hello lisenced children leads to licensed adults! LICENSED TO
LIVE! Parents should and must have rights to raise as many
children as they like without interferance from the state.
Any one who wants to license people to live must want
communism and should move somplace else. This is America
A land of the free. Not the licensed.

Astrieanna says:

While I agree with the anti-bad-parenting feeling behind this, if you're going to try to argue about something, you need to define what you're even arguing about.

"License" tends to imply something like a driver's license -- no kids until you pass the test!
This doesn't work out at all when what you're trying to give the government control over is a natural biological function.

While the sentiment is nice, do you really want to give away even more of your rights to the government?

Lyss says:

Huh?? Are you mentally insane? A liscense? Well, what would it take to get this liscense? What would the fee be? No. No. No. No. No. Well, so would this liscense expire? Unlike a driving liscense, these people really aren't a danger to anyone but themselves, and the children the carry. Except somehow, it works out anyways. This would severely infringe on people's rights. And also, what would happen to these people who had children without a liscense? What about people who are raped without the use of protection? What then? This is absurd. With all of the issues going on today, there wouldn't even be significance of this ever. What next, do you have to a license for grocery shopping? Honestly, back up your information a bit more on your idea of what this license should even be, becuase I'm not convinced in the least. And after reading this, I never will be. This is rediculous. People need to learn the consequences, but in other ways! Not by making these people recieve a license! Hate to break it to you, but this will never happen. Ever. There would be too much contraversy. It's not going to happen, and if it ever does, it won't be in my lifetime. The government shouldn't be able to decide who can have kids and who can't. Thats up to the parents to figure out.

Zacharyscrafts says:

While in theory a license would be ideal, it is impractical and well, just wrong. While I don't think that anyone and everyone should be able to go to a fertility clinic to have children, they should be able to have children the natural way.

tandemonimom says:

Absolutely not. HARD CASES MAKE BAD LAW. You cannot begin to prejudge EVERYONE because a few idiots make bad choices. Aside from that, think about logistics: the only way to even begin to implement something so ridiculous would be a universally administered birth control, maybe in the water, and "licensees" would be given an antidote. How would children handle such a wash of hormones in every sip of water they took? Think of the health implications alone! Utterly absurd.

Margo_Arrowsmith says:

Well, I want to say yes, but then who is going to make the decisions? Some are obvious, but frankly there are people who wouldn't give licesnses to each other

Ajeet says:

So you are saying that people should need a license to be people!

Frankster says:

Maybe not. That may be a little extreme. However, there should be parenting classes in every single high school. Also classes on budgeting, savings, insurance, banking, debt and other "life" things. Our kids really aren't ready for the real world when they graduate.

Jimmie says:

Who in the world could make the value judgments to decide who does and doesn't get the license? This is absurd.

Storm39 says:

This is bad, for two reasons.

1. It would be difficult to enforce. We have other things to worry about at the moment.

2. Who's standards would be used as the guideline to being a "good parent"? Politicians would abuse the system.

AlexandraHubbard says:

I appreciate the sentiment, but how would it be enforced?
Chastity belts? Computer chips? A Brave New World of mandatory birth control pills for every menstruating female? Sterilization? Mandatory abortion? The only way I can see is if society had some mechanism for placing LARGE numbers of children in adoptive liscenced homes. Right now federal programs are already overloaded and tons of children are are lost in the system, with no parents at all. Legislation to this effect would replace bad parents with no parents.

Talmage says:

Not that it isn't a good idea it's just not practical to implement or enforce. It also has taints of eugenics. More thought has gone into the breeding of horses than human beings. If we as a society started raising educated, well adjusted etc. human beings half the professions of adults would disappear. The economic impact is too great.

 
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One of the hardest parts about being a parent is letting go. We don't pay too much attention, when our children are babies, to the fact that one day we will have to release them into the world to start their lives on their own. The only thing we really care about is their health, safety and happiness. We do everything we can to create a life that is fulfilling and nurturing, so that when they are old enough, they will be ready to support and sustain themselves independently.

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The adolescent years are rougher, with teasing, co-ed parties, hormones and the first kiss.
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High school graduation is a turning point -- their introduction to adult responsibility and perhaps more freedom. Some children go straight to work, while others go off to college to pursue a specific career. But wait! Wasn't it just yesterday that we were diapering them and helping them blow their noses? Didn't they promise they were never getting married and will always be with mommy, forever? Why is it so difficult to let them go, when our job has always been to prepare them for this time?

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    kitty222 kitty222 Sep 11, 2009 @ 10:30 pm
    This is one issue I can see both sides of. So many of our social problems could be solved if we had a firm and effective way to encourage good parents and discourage bad ones. On the other hand, we as Americans will not tolerate anything that takes away freedom. Most of us can see how requiring "parenting licenses" is the start of a slippery slope toward planned breeding, ethnic cleansing, and so on. We certainly don't want to become WWII Germany.
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    aj2008 aj2008 Aug 9, 2009 @ 7:27 am
    A very interesting debate - I can see both sides!
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    CCGAL CCGAL Jun 30, 2009 @ 4:30 pm
    You got 'em goin' with this one! Good job getting people to explain why they feel one way or the other.
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    debnet debnet Jun 12, 2009 @ 1:25 pm
    Super lens with some very thought provoking issues ;)
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The Role of FertilityTechnology and Fertility Clinics and Parenting! 

Following the recent birth of octuplets in California and the subsequent information about Octo-mom, the mother of the children; it would seem to me that someone needs to be paying more attention.
There are a lot of thoughts around this case, what are yours?

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I say, "Yes"! This is especially true in such an issue that is ripe for misuse and abuse.

kathysart says:

well... in our dreams.. right? But sure if it were in fact possible.

Astrieanna says:

It makes sense to have as much regulation here as you do on adoptions. This is a service, a privilege of science -- you are okay to regulate this.

Before a doctor is allowed to do anything, there should be a investigation/certification that the mom-to-be has the resources and knowledge to care for her potential offspring.

Tracy says:

yes, there is no reason for people, like Nadya Sulleman, to have kids that they cannot afford. Why should the taxpayers have to support kids that they did not choose to have? They shouldn't. There needs to me more regulation on the who, what, when, and why of fertility clinics.
Most people abide by the "rules" but it is the few that ruin it for everyone.

Wysiwigs says:

Yep, 'fraid so. It is a sad state of affairs that people have become so thoroughly reckless and irresponsible when it comes to marriage and family.

mindchanger says:

Back when I was responsible for the licensing and regulation of health care professionals in Nebraska, the sorry excuse for an MD that implanted those embryos in OctoMom would have been defending his credentials in front of his peers. The MD and this selfish, mixed up woman are the definition of irresponsibility. To your question, I say YES!

I say, "No"! We have too many regulations already!

PetSnakes says:

Interesting that you said "their religion does not allow for birth control" in your opening salvo. I've heard other Christians say that, but for the life of me I can't find anything that even reflects that anywhere in the Bible. Point being that a person will use anything they can to justify themselves in whatever they do. Including the manipulation of faith.

Margo_Arrowsmith says:

Yes, they do home studies for adoption, I think both parents and doctors should be evaluated

 

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