Violence, Religion, and War
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Does religion breed violence and war, or is the issue far more complex?
Religious intolerance and intolerance of religion are associated with violence on both global and local scales.
From world wars to street gangs, violence is still practiced, and justified, for many reasons.
Modern man has not come far from tribes where the words for stranger and enemy were the same word.
"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
Noam Chomsky
The media portrays conflicts as simple and religious.
Sound bites don't have time for reality. Headlines carry emotional hooks, not facts.
Listen or read as popular media talks about religion being the focal point of violence.
Ireland, Lebanon, Israel, Iraq; notice the distinctions of groups could also be along ethnic, economic, and political lines, or other dividing issues. Anglo Saxon vs. Celt, socialism vs. capitalism, controlling government vs. freedom, and invaders versus the occupied are just some other conflict sources. Within current hot spots; are the Shi'a Arabs Babylonian and the Sunni Arabs Persian?
You can bet the combatants know, we aren't told. You could also guess that those involved don't view themselves primarily as Arab, but as smaller groups.
You can find some other root causes if you wish, just being aware they exist does clarify opinions. In fact there are many complex stories that are never told. A single cause is so easy to relate. Hatred for a religion, or all religion, is based on stereotypes enforced by lack of clear thought. The roots of conflicts are diverse:
"A recent visit to Azerbaijan made clear to me that Azeri Turks, the world's most secular Shi'ite Muslims, see their cultural identity in terms not of religion but of their Turkic race. The Armenians, likewise, fight the Azeris not because the latter are Muslims but because they are Turks, related to the same Turks who massacred Armenians in 1915." - Robert D. Kaplan
One of my best friends as I was growing up was an emigrant from Ireland. He was Catholic, I am of protestant roots. He said half his city was English and acted and looked English; and was trying to force its English will on the Irish half. According to him, their different religions were not the issue. That of course is not what we read in the papers when violence erupted or a bomb exploded.
Hitler didn't care if you were of Jewish faith or a professed Catholic, he hunted the Jewish nationality, traced though their parentage. Corrie Ten Boom, a Christian, was imprisoned with her sister for protecting Jews from Nazis.
Her sister died in that prison. Corrie said of Christianity, "Just because you were born in a garage, it does not make you a car."
Religion is a personal choice, on a personal level.
There are few actions as disingenuous as a politician standing on the steps of a holy place waving a holy text. A well publicized claim of religious affiliation while running for office is most frequently just another lie.
A claim of national religion is a claim for emotion based political power, not for religion.
Ireland, Lebanon, Israel, Iraq; notice the distinctions of groups could also be along ethnic, economic, and political lines, or other dividing issues. Anglo Saxon vs. Celt, socialism vs. capitalism, controlling government vs. freedom, and invaders versus the occupied are just some other conflict sources. Within current hot spots; are the Shi'a Arabs Babylonian and the Sunni Arabs Persian?
You can bet the combatants know, we aren't told. You could also guess that those involved don't view themselves primarily as Arab, but as smaller groups.
You can find some other root causes if you wish, just being aware they exist does clarify opinions. In fact there are many complex stories that are never told. A single cause is so easy to relate. Hatred for a religion, or all religion, is based on stereotypes enforced by lack of clear thought. The roots of conflicts are diverse:
"A recent visit to Azerbaijan made clear to me that Azeri Turks, the world's most secular Shi'ite Muslims, see their cultural identity in terms not of religion but of their Turkic race. The Armenians, likewise, fight the Azeris not because the latter are Muslims but because they are Turks, related to the same Turks who massacred Armenians in 1915." - Robert D. Kaplan
One of my best friends as I was growing up was an emigrant from Ireland. He was Catholic, I am of protestant roots. He said half his city was English and acted and looked English; and was trying to force its English will on the Irish half. According to him, their different religions were not the issue. That of course is not what we read in the papers when violence erupted or a bomb exploded.
Hitler didn't care if you were of Jewish faith or a professed Catholic, he hunted the Jewish nationality, traced though their parentage. Corrie Ten Boom, a Christian, was imprisoned with her sister for protecting Jews from Nazis.
Her sister died in that prison. Corrie said of Christianity, "Just because you were born in a garage, it does not make you a car."
Religion is a personal choice, on a personal level.
There are few actions as disingenuous as a politician standing on the steps of a holy place waving a holy text. A well publicized claim of religious affiliation while running for office is most frequently just another lie.
A claim of national religion is a claim for emotion based political power, not for religion.
Religious violence is just one result of political manipulation.
Intolerance and violence travel together. It does not matter if that intolerance is over religious beliefs or lack of them. It matters not if it is over color of skin, which street you live on, or what tribe your ancestors roamed with.
Sadly many of those that speak about the evils of intolerance are themselves highly intolerant of others. They feel it is without contradiction to hate others who do not believe exactly in their world view. Small minds can have large vocabularies. Wicked minds can use small divisions to win power. Groups educated in obedience to authority do not see duplicity in their party leaders.
As war is the health of the state; so disdain, hate, and fear are the health of political parties.
Sadly many of those that speak about the evils of intolerance are themselves highly intolerant of others. They feel it is without contradiction to hate others who do not believe exactly in their world view. Small minds can have large vocabularies. Wicked minds can use small divisions to win power. Groups educated in obedience to authority do not see duplicity in their party leaders.
As war is the health of the state; so disdain, hate, and fear are the health of political parties.
The early American view
Theirs was a much different view than we are taught today.
The founders of the United States instituted a small, weak, and passive federal republic for external affairs; and competitive, independent, self-determining state governments for local rule. By limiting centralized power they hoped to perpetuate individual liberties.
For the same reasons of protecting liberty, the individual states each eventually embraced separating church and state. In fact Pennsylvania was noted for religious tolerance - something other states initially debated.
The goal of religious freedom was to insulate citizens from government interference with their personal choice of religion; not to isolate people from considering or practicing religion.
The state leaders saw that what is a personal choice of a free person could become a claim for allegiance to a despot's goals. By stifling domination of religion by government, they limited one tool of emotional coercion. With a weak federation composed of 13 separate nation states competing for citizens; freedom and the right to pursue personal goals were temporarily insured. Free religious choice was universally codified in the Bill of Rights.
The rights listed in these ten amendments already existed in the individual states. They were written and approved by the state governments, and then added to the US Constitution, to restrict all levels of government powers.
To have, or not have, a personal relationship with God is your choice.
Regardless of the political climate in which you live.
For the same reasons of protecting liberty, the individual states each eventually embraced separating church and state. In fact Pennsylvania was noted for religious tolerance - something other states initially debated.
The goal of religious freedom was to insulate citizens from government interference with their personal choice of religion; not to isolate people from considering or practicing religion.
The state leaders saw that what is a personal choice of a free person could become a claim for allegiance to a despot's goals. By stifling domination of religion by government, they limited one tool of emotional coercion. With a weak federation composed of 13 separate nation states competing for citizens; freedom and the right to pursue personal goals were temporarily insured. Free religious choice was universally codified in the Bill of Rights.
The rights listed in these ten amendments already existed in the individual states. They were written and approved by the state governments, and then added to the US Constitution, to restrict all levels of government powers.
To have, or not have, a personal relationship with God is your choice.
Regardless of the political climate in which you live.
You Aren't Born Intolerant
As the movie South Pacific states "you have to be carefully taught."
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We are no longer wandering tribes.
We no longer need to suspect everyone we do not understand.
Those who engender war may fraudulently demonstrate religious passion as another emotional propaganda tool. A unified front can stabilize factions that would dissent: "Our Country Right Or Wrong," Fatherland, Homeland, Motherland, Conservative, Progressive, Our God, Our Leaders, Our People.
These statements do not normally represent reality beyond small tribal size groups. Many should be individual, not group decisions. These are calculated, manipulative slogans used to include diverse tribal members. The goal is to create artificial tribes, sometimes called nations. The means used are often fear and hatred of the excluded.
References to religion may reflect one surface factor of war, but diverse root causes always extend far deeper. Media commentators and politicos love to sound as if they have inside, specific knowledge. Simplistic sound bites help keep an overextended tribe united against. Well, against whomever the followers are told is the enemy.
In reality, events happen for myriad reasons we will never fully fathom. Media will not go to the trouble of understanding and explaining complex issues, or admit they don't know. Especially when blaming the "opiate of the masses" parallels their world view.
These statements do not normally represent reality beyond small tribal size groups. Many should be individual, not group decisions. These are calculated, manipulative slogans used to include diverse tribal members. The goal is to create artificial tribes, sometimes called nations. The means used are often fear and hatred of the excluded.
References to religion may reflect one surface factor of war, but diverse root causes always extend far deeper. Media commentators and politicos love to sound as if they have inside, specific knowledge. Simplistic sound bites help keep an overextended tribe united against. Well, against whomever the followers are told is the enemy.
In reality, events happen for myriad reasons we will never fully fathom. Media will not go to the trouble of understanding and explaining complex issues, or admit they don't know. Especially when blaming the "opiate of the masses" parallels their world view.
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LoKackl
Sep 1, 2010 @ 8:32 am | delete
- Religious violence has new relevance. I am amazed the White House is giving another go at peace talks. Blessed and rolled.
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JaguarJulie
Jul 22, 2009 @ 8:04 am | delete
- You know it is almost an oxymoron that "Religious intolerance and intolerance of religion are associated with violence on both global and local scales." It almost doesn't make any sense, does it?
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Demaw Jul 13, 2009 @ 5:46 am | delete
- I believe modern man has come far from tribes the words for neighbor might mean stranger thus enemy or at least not friend. 5*
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Rewards4life
Jan 5, 2009 @ 7:59 am | delete
- What an interesting lens, I think we have come a long way since our ancestors but still have so much more to go. We have a beautiful structure within our society but unless there is something critical happening which affects us all we revert back to our small minded nature. Lets continue to learn and broaden our minds, in that we will find our Utopia. 5*
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TheSmokinFrog
Jan 1, 2009 @ 6:40 pm | delete
- I really enjoyed your lens. As to the causes of war, I would say simply it is sin. Since the beginning of time we have been killing even our own brothers. Thanks for the substance of your lens.
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Zackfaire
Sep 18, 2008 @ 3:55 am | delete
- what a very intriguing lens. 5 stars goes to this one, tho you deserve more actually. i got nothing more to say to this lens since i agree with what you just wrote. thanks for sharing this one...
http://www.siakoi.com/society/on-dealing-with-religious-issues.html
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tandemonimom
Aug 8, 2008 @ 9:53 am | delete
- I agree absolutely. The media chooses a single view to present a dumbed-down version to the public, and you can bet the view they choose is the one that supports other agendas of theirs. Thank you for a very thoughtful and well-presented lens. 5 stars
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d-artist
Jul 19, 2008 @ 9:44 pm | delete
- very interesting and thought provoking lens...thanks for sharing...5*s
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"If there are several opposing opinions on an issue, all of them can't be right; however, all of them can be very wrong." - Allan R. Wallace
One indicator of coming government to human atrocities is the government banning of civilian weapons. It is a recurring theme, sometimes incidental, frequently premeditated. It is one leading indicator of sectarian violence.
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." - Mahatma Gandhi; in Gandhi, An Autobiography
If you see hate being stoked, and methods of self defense being removed, it may be time to remove yourself from danger.
"If there are several opposing opinions on an issue, all of them can't be right; however, all of them can be very wrong." - Allan R. Wallace
One indicator of coming government to human atrocities is the government banning of civilian weapons. It is a recurring theme, sometimes incidental, frequently premeditated. It is one leading indicator of sectarian violence.
"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." - Mahatma Gandhi; in Gandhi, An Autobiography
If you see hate being stoked, and methods of self defense being removed, it may be time to remove yourself from danger.
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