Robin of Sherwood (1984) vs. Robin Hood (new BBC series)

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Which Interpretation of the legendary hero is better?

1984, and about the only notable cable channels worth mentioning were HBO and Showtime. Warring with each other over quality content, a small BBC production snuck onto the landscape of the small screen. HTV's Robin of Sherwood seemed like yet another version of the lincoln green-clad hero of England's 12th century. Or was it? Quickly it became clear to this budding writer, only 16 at the time, that this Robin of Loxley was different. Up until this time, Errol Flynn was Robin Hood. After all, only Errol Flynn's Robin Hood could boast an appearance in Bugs Bunny's "Rabbit Hood" (1949, Warner Bros.). What higher honor could be bestowed upon the Man in the Hood?

 

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Respecting The Legend

With 1938's The Adventures of Robin Hood, to use as a comparison, I very rapidly ate up the new depiction. What struck me the most was two things: real people and pagan themes. The characters, one by one, became real people, with real range of emotion. There were no middle of the road cardboard cutouts of the people of Nottingham, as the Errol Flynn version was becoming. These were real people, with real opinions and real relationships. And, for the first time, pagan mysticism and 12th century superstitions became a part of the Robin Hood milieu.

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The Characters

Who is not to like in this program? The good are real good. The bad are real bad. The key word is real. I could instantly believe these people. Their motivations, their emotions, their fears and superstitions were real. Thus, the conflicts became real. With a blanket of mysticism in many episodes, I had never come across the ingredients that made this Robin Hood special to me. Especially likable was the nearly-demented portrayal of the Sheriff of Nottingham by Nikolas Grace. Robert Addie (may he rest in peace!) was outstanding as the almost spoiled brat Guy of Gisbon. I loved when he got his in almost every episode.

The Merry Men, and Maid Marian, were all embraced well by the actors who played them, meshing together in a rarely-combined chemistry of friendships. For the first time, a Saracen as outlaw, hinting at the Crusades as a story element, was introduced in Nasir, played by Mark Ryan. This would inspire Azeem (Morgan Freeman) and others in later film portrayals.

Robin of Loxley

But it was the portrayal of Robin himself that hooked me on this show the minute I saw him. To me, this man was Robin Hood, the Robin Hood. Gone were the images of short, red-bearded men with pointed caps. The Hooded Man didn't need pointed caps, especially one with a feather in it. This was no Yankee Doodle Dandy. This was the legend come to life. This was Michael Praed putting on the best performance of Robin Hood I had ever seen. It was devastating to lose him in series 2's final episode, "The Greatest Enemy".

At this point, I thought, all good things must come to an end. For one more series, Jason Connery nobly stepped into the role, if not the shoes, of Praed. As Robert, the Earl of Huntington, Herne's new 'chosen one', Connery did a fine job. But the lustre was gone for me. I am often left wondering, should the series had been allowed to go on to further seasons, would Connery have replaced Praed as the Robin Hood?

Maybe. Maybe not.

The In-Between Years

But it was never to be found out. HTV and Goldcrest, its production partner, were forced to close down due to the coffer running empty. Perhaps instead of giving to the poor, Robin and his band should have given to their production companies.

Nevertheless, more Robin incarnations were on the way, notably Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves. Good acting by all except Kevin Costner (no offence to the talented actor, but this was not a role suited for him), the best part of this production was the music, scored by Michael Kamen (may he also rest in peace) and featuring Bryan Adams with "Everything I Do". Not worth comparing to Robin of Sherwood.

Better that year was Robin Hood, starring Patrick Bergen as Robin and Uma Thurman as Marian. More intelligently played than Costner's Hollywood style production.

Robin and Marian

A moment from Prince of Thieves

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Perhaps he is lost?

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Then came 2006

20 years after Robin of Sherwood faded into the cobwebs of my memory, a small shudder of hope coursed through my brain as I sat watching BBC America. Could it be? A successor to Michael Praed, Nikolas Grace and Robert Addie?

Still reeling from the disappointment of the "betweeners" brought to us during those 20 years, skepticism led with caution to the first episode of BBC's Robin Hood. No Clannad-style music haunting the mood of this show. Reminiscent of the Errol Flynn Robin Hood, a sense of swashbuckling romance met me at the doorway to this series. No problem, I was well prepared to return to my Robin Hood roots and swash my buckle here.

The Crusades played a heavy part in this series. While the characters found themselves in subsequent episodes, and thereby became as real as those back in 1984, the pagan undertones had vanished, replaced by realistic oppression of the times. The poor were poor and the rich lived off their sweat and toil.
They also lived in fear of the equally cruel Sheriff, played by Keith Allen this time around. A slight resemblance to both the appearance and personality of Nikolas Grace brought back good memories of yesteryear. There was hope again. This sheriff, however, was meaner and more evil than Robert de Rainault, Grace's well-played Sheriff. Allen plays the sheriff with both a sense of wit, as well as a sense of evil. He will get what he wants, at whatever the cost. I actually fear for the Merry Men (not so merry here), having seen some of them (Roy, for instance) killed by the sheriff's men. That didn't happen with Grace.

Guy of Gisborne is a complete makeover also. Respecting Robert Addie's portrayal of a spoiled rich kid losing it all to the hero, this Guy of Gisborne is cunning, cool and ready to make Robin suffer. There are times when you root for the poor fool, only to find out how black his heart is underneath all that leather. Well balanced performance by Richard Armitage.

Maid Marian

Interesting as well is the conflicting storyline of Guy's wooing(?) of Marian. She sometimes seems to care about this Guy. Or is she just playing him like a harp? He clearly loves her, but who wouldn't love Lucy Griffiths? What is also interesting here, to further contrast with Robin of Sherwood, is the relationship between Robin and Marian. In the earlier version, Judi Trott's Marian is fiercely loyal to Praed's Robin. Here, Lucy spends most of her time showing the hurt her Marian feels over Jonas Armstrong's Robin choosing King and country over her, electing to traipse off into the Crusade's to be at King Richard's side, rather than hers. Each episode, I find myself hoping the relationship to settle into something resembling the Praed/Trott era, but alas, it appears not to be. Yet.

And her tough alter-ego, the Night Watchman? Too soon to offer an opinion of this new angle.

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The Final Comparison

Robin of Sherwood or Robin of BBC?

Which brings me to the final comparison here. Robin himself. Does Jonas Armstrong take the crown away from Michael Praed?

In a word, no.

I have come to realize that along with the fact that there is always going to be a Robin Hood in our lives, there will also be a unique portrayal of the young hero. Jonas Armstrong is no Michael Praed. But that is not meant to insult Armstrong, because I have found as the new series progresses that here is a new Robin Hood. Just as Praed evolved the character from the swashbuckling Errol Flynn, so, too, has Armstrong taken and evolved the character from the mystical, paganistic Hooded Man of Praed's time.

Armstrong is Robin Hood. Just as Praed was Robin Hood. So was Errol Flynn. I think, as the series moves forward into its second series, Armstrong will continue to leave his mark on the legendary character. Armstrong's Robin has a dark side, which I like and Praed lacked. Weaknesses and flaws make a hero character more likeable, because only cardboard characters are all white or all black.

So, with Allen's Sheriff, I find Armstrong's Robin certainly capable of killing. But as we saw him struggle in his conflict with Guy after finding out Guy was the assassin in the Crusade who stabbed him and nearly killed King Richard, we are left wondering not only if this Robin will kill out of anger, but quite possibly when. Could it happen? I think the doubt that he won't is certainly planted well.

Closing thoughts...

So, with Armstrong's Robin Hood moving along nicely before us nowadays, it is refreshing to see an excellent portrayal once again. Let's hope, for this fan of Robin Hood's sake, that after BBC pulls the plug on this one, that I don't have to wait another 20 years for a quality Robin Hood to grace the screen again.

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Michael Praed

Laura T says:

Definitely Michael Praed. The BBC Robin Hood was a terrible programme. It was poorly written, badly acted and completely soulless. Jonas Armstrong had all the charisma of a tree, and his acting was just as wooden.

All in all it was too modern, too anachronistic, and waaay too politically correct.

Robin of Sherwood though, which I only discovered in Summer 2011, is probably the best version of the Legend that we're ever likely to see. Kip Carpenter was able to mix myth, history and folklore seamlessly into his scripts; and it had such a wonderfully mystical atmosphere!

All the cast were great - I remember a thrill running through me during Robin's 'Is this the spirit of England!' speech - you wouldn't get away with something like that in these modern anglophobic times.

All in all, I'm just glad to have experienced such an astonishingly well made programme. Best wishes.

Tiggered says:

Robin of Sherwood, all the way. And let's not forget the unbelievable soundtrack by Clannad - some tunes followed me for years, before I even knew the group existed

Tom says:

Michael Praed. I was only 5-years-old at the time but still remember it like it was yesterday - and now own the box set! Robin of Sherwood is, to my mind, the definitive telling of the Robin Hood myth. The mix of swords and scorcery was perfect, the characters were excellent, the music great and the whole atmosphere haunting and memorable. The recent Robin Hood was typical BBC ballyhoo and I can't be doing with Keith Allen, period. Hope that helps!

Storyteller says:

Without a doubt, Michael Praed IS Robin Hood. Why? He's British, he roamed the real Sherwood Forest for his adventures, and he was surrounded by a superb cast. The mystical atmosphere lent perfectly to the time period that the legend of Robin Hood took place, at the height of superstition and the suppression of knowledge by the powers of the time. All of this is captured beautifully in Robin of Sherwood. Clannad only added to the ambience of the series.

Jonas Armstrong

 

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  • Andrew May 17, 2012 @ 12:13 pm | delete
    Robin Of SHERWOOD.......best BBC production (next to Dr. Who) ever! Music was amazing and so was each story!!!!!!
  • melissiaoliver Apr 27, 2012 @ 4:13 am | delete
    I really enjoyed this lens :) however, for me, Richard Greene will *always* be Robin Hood. He starred in the 1950s series of Robin Hood and it's amazing and great fun :). I'm not a fan of the BBC's new series, it lacks that certain something.
  • Mark Nov 26, 2010 @ 12:09 pm | delete
    Robin Hood has always been a hero of mine...thanks for such a fine lens...
  • Greekgeek Dec 8, 2009 @ 12:21 am | delete
    Just found this lens and found i had already rated it. I've been enjoying watching my Robin of Sherwood DVDs again and just got the Jason Connery season for my parents for Christmas. (I like Michael Praed better, but they've seen all of his, and there are moments in the later episodes worth savoring if only to get more of the other characters, especially Will.)
    I wish there were more Robin of Sherwood episodes. I can't really claim it's the best, because I haven't seen the new Robin Hood, but Robin of Sherwood was SO good.
  • Suzie-Shine Jun 9, 2009 @ 3:23 pm | delete
    I have a bit of a thing about Robin Hood and I don't feel that the latest BBC incarnation is convincing. There's something not quite right about this Robin. I suppose we all have a picture in our mind of our ideal Robin Hood and it's hard to please everyone.
    Suzie
  • Hob Gob Feb 6, 2009 @ 6:07 am | delete
    Sorry, but Americans shouldn't do RH. Like English shouldn't do Superman or Billy the Kid. Kevin Costner- big no. Flynn, fair enough for the time. RoS is hard to top -ie the work and thought that went into it. The music for me one of the best things -am not a huge Clannad fan otherwise, but here it works and elevates the visual, in ways that most music for TV/film does not (forgettable 'dramatic' string arrangements and, nowadays, depressing lack of silences necessary to emphasise the music when it is used, e.g. Dr. Who). Newer BBC Robin Hood I watched once and never again. It didn't seem interested in taking it to a next level, just reducing it, perhaps as some supposed back to basics reaction to RoS? But then it's probably an age thing too, RoS is pretty tough to follow- it's all in the atmosphere, of a truly anarchic medieval Britain, about as anti Hollywood as one can get. Praed obviously sticks in the mind, he was RH before Connery and when the series was still at it's freshest.
  • monolith21 Mar 6, 2010 @ 3:56 am | delete
    Ya know, I'm American and I agree with this completely! Nothing can replace Robin of Sherwood for me, even the current BBC version. I don't want more American Doctor Who either. Its just the wrong mentality. Robin Hood belongs to all who are inspired by the story...but its always better when its being told by the British. Preferably by Richard Carpenter.
  • Me Jun 6, 2010 @ 4:47 am | delete
    umm, Flynn was australian?
  • Oct 19, 2008 @ 11:06 pm | delete
    A very good lens to come across and I am a very big fan of Robin Hood. I almost read all of his stories. He is a real hero of all the times. Thanks for the wonderful lens.
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  • richgerman Jul 28, 2008 @ 4:27 am | delete
    WOW Nice lens... 5 stars favored... Keep it Up...
  • alanders Sep 27, 2007 @ 11:28 am | delete
    I like Errol Flynn the best! But nice lens.
  • rms Jun 14, 2007 @ 7:18 am | delete
    Sharing his name I give you 5 stars for a great lens!
  • surfsusan Jun 12, 2007 @ 11:53 am | delete
    I just love the original version - I read it first time when I was a child - many, many years ago ;-)
  • Greekgeek May 11, 2007 @ 9:26 pm | delete
    Gah, never enough room. Thank you for the informative, nuanced review. Good to point out the overlooked debate: who's the best Marian? (Trott!)
    2 suggestions. 1) Shorter affiliates modules with more careful selection of items; there's so much to scroll through 2) "Favorite Robin Hood version" plexo!
  • Greekgeek May 11, 2007 @ 9:22 pm | delete
    Wow. VERY interesting; I had missed the news about the new Robin Hood. I stumbled across Robin of Sherwood at the phenomenally suitable age of 18, and the myth of youthful idealism and determination (not to mention a precious dollop of the old pagan roots of the story) was a delightful inspiration.

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