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From the lens Do You Support the Separation of School & State?.

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  • jEsChrDs82 Jan 28, 2012 @ 12:27 pm | delete
    Public school is important especially for families who cannot afford to send their children to private nor have time to monitor homeschool program for their children, I don't think it should be eliminated but government control should be lessen.

    constitution for kids
  • JustOneGuy Apr 19, 2012 @ 9:32 am | delete
    It is precisely the poor who are hurt the most by public school. The people who want to rule us and control our lives understand that independent thinkers are the only people that pose a threat to their wealth. They don't want competition. Public schools keep the poor from learning how powerful they are in their own right and how easy it is to learn really complicated skillsets. Did you know that you could have taught your children how to read for about 10 bucks BEFORE they were five years old? Read my lens about how to teach your children to read without stress. I taught all 5 of my children how to read before they were kindergarten age. It was amazing how quickly they learned and how easy it was to show them. I think a case could be made for learning how to read and do math before the age of 5 and have it be fun, private and inexpensive. After that, what is left for the public school to do? Writing and what, football? We might have to give up watching "Dancing with the Stars" and watching the talking heads on the news tell us how the latest face-lift worked out ad nauseum. I don't mean to be so negative but the truth is that public schools might eventually be identified as the single biggest factor in the downfall of the Constitution. People need to learn about that and they certainly won't in the institution that is the source of the vast majority of natural rights abuse.
  • cr00059n Dec 31, 2011 @ 11:54 am | delete
    Such an important topic that needs to be addressed more often. The border lines of school and state need to be drawn carefully.
  • MiddleSister Dec 11, 2011 @ 2:33 pm | delete
    Public school is essential. I work hard every day to teach each student to think creatively and critically.
  • JustOneGuy Apr 19, 2012 @ 9:33 am | delete
    No it's not. You don't force or dictate the creative process. If you think you do, then you don't understand it.
  • mrducksmrnot Sep 30, 2011 @ 6:49 am | delete
    All of the lenses here on Squidoo will better educate the mass of the people with much more true information than any public school could ever dream about.
  • JustOneGuy May 1, 2011 @ 4:00 am | delete
    We look at schooling as though it were part of our identity to have to pump information into our children's heads. We need to know what is true. Without that we cannot make good choices. This allows us to create our identity and the things we need in order to survive. To stop someone from seeking the truth, from making their own choices and to damage one's identity or one's property is to violate their natural rights and to destroy their freedom. Public schools are built upon travesty after travesty and no good ever has or will ever come from it. The things that we've allowed to take place in order to 'educate our children in public schools' are fundamentally predatory in nature and therefore evil. The whole point of government is to protect the citizens from human predation and if you look at the results of and what has been done in the name of public schooling, you'll see the unvarnished truth of evil in the name of good.
  • paperfacets Jun 10, 2009 @ 4:01 pm | delete
    I don't a agree on this, but there is dumbing down and some misinformation or miseducation getting out there in public schools. I just read "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by James W. Loewen. That's why I was drawn to this title on your list of lenses. After reading that book I would sigh a petition to eliminate Columbus day.

    This is an engaging lens! Kept my interest.

    Thanks for visiting my Route 66 lens. Pasadena has so much history and always so much happening.
  • clembob May 13, 2009 @ 4:44 pm | delete
    I do think there is too much government involvement. When I say this lens has been favorited I really mean it. Very thought provoking stuff here!
  • tandemonimom May 8, 2009 @ 7:05 pm | delete
    Welcome to The Homeschooling Group - you're a featured lens!
  • Soren May 8, 2009 @ 6:42 pm | delete
    I love this lens! If I could give you 10 stars I would. I am somewhat of a conservative anarchist. I hate the government attempting to control my thoughts, actions and beliefs. I believe that the government should have absolutley no part or interference in our personal lives, decisions or beliefs at any time.
  • Burkean09 May 8, 2009 @ 12:50 am | delete
    I don't think public education needs to be eliminated, but this mostly governmental monopoly on education needs to come to an end. Through policies such as school vouchers and by creating a more friendly environment for homeschooling, we can spark competition between public and private institutions. Each will have to show that it can offer a better education and experience for the child in order to earn the ability to educate said child. Competition can spark improvements across the board.
  • JustOneGuy Apr 19, 2012 @ 9:50 am | delete
    I don't agree. It should be eliminated. Public school, by its very nature abhors competition. If ONE SINGLE PERSON has to pay for something they don't use then the "public" has become a predatory creature. To understand just how far we have fallen away from understanding what freedom means, one doesn't need to look any further than this issue.
    Freedom means that each of us is responsible for his/her own survival and the skillsets required for that survival - and the moment that we require "sacrifice" from another person is the moment that freedom is lost. Freedom has only one meaning: free from human predation. To take something from another person by force or by the threat of force is to be a human predator. When we justify it we start down a very slippery slope. And going back up gets harder and harder.
  • Webcodes May 6, 2009 @ 12:49 am | delete
    You know I really really wish that vouchers for private schools would have become law here in California where I live.. ..when it comes time to vote.. opponents are always shooting it down saying it would take money from public schools. Great topic and great lens. 5*.
  • JustOneGuy Apr 19, 2012 @ 9:05 am | delete
    One of the layers of evil brought about because of public schools is that in most cases property "rights" have been destroyed in order to pay for it. It's like someone has broken into our homes, stolen our wealth, left to purchase a gun with it, returned and shot us in the head.
    Whenever I hear someone imply that they "own" their home or their property, I object and tell them that they used to but they don't any more. They pay rent to live in their own home.
    We need to keep drawing attention to the evils that have been perpetrated by society in the name of "good".
  • tandemonimom May 1, 2009 @ 12:12 pm | delete
    This is an excellent - if somewhat frightening! - page. 5* and lensrolled to Homeschool Quotes.
  • stargazer00 May 1, 2009 @ 11:39 am | delete
    As a retired homeschool mom I understand the importance of this issue. Public school is not getting the job done. Homeschooled kids can succeed in the real world. One of mine has just completed a navy program equivalent to an education at MIT. One is in college and in management in his job. One works at a grocery store. Most importantly, they all know how to think for themselves and can recognize BS when they hear it. Great topic!
  • MiddleSister Apr 18, 2012 @ 10:39 pm | delete
    That's great to hear how well your homeschooled adult children are doing. My three public-schooled children are doing quite well in the real world too. One is a teacher, and has just earned a masters degree. Another has earned a degree at a top university, and is working on an advanced degree in nursing. The last one is working on her doctorate in physical therapy. All three "public-schooled." Public school IS getting the job done.
  • JustOneGuy Apr 19, 2012 @ 9:14 am | delete
    Thank you for being the way you are. However, I kind of disagree with you about the phrase, "not getting the job done" and my disagreement is very subtle. The "job" is not the parent's or the system's, it's the child's or the person doing the learning.
    We over rate the idea of the teacher. When a person is ready to learn, they will learn. I cannot determine when that time is, only the person with the need to learn can.
    I'm not saying that we cannot teach those who want to learn, we can. The driving force must come from the learner, not the teacher. It's an issue of ownership. The learner has to own both the decision to learn and the learning process. We can help, but that's all we should do. Another way of looking at it is that we can sing background or harmony. The student must lead. it's a subtle thing.
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