What It's Like to Have Shock Therapy
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My ECT Experience
People seem to be willing to talk openly about their Colonoscopy experiences, but mention "shock treatments" and you will notice a series of awkward glances unfold.
**I say "attempt" because most of my memories from those 3 months are gone (more on that later)
What Is ECT?
ECT treatments are given 3 times a week in the beginning, then less frequently. Usually a series of 6-12 sessions are required to produce the therapeutic effect, although sometimes more than 12 might be necessary.
Even though ECT has been proven safe and effective in treating these severe episodes of major depression, bipolar and schizophrenia, it will not in itself prevent the occurrence of future episodes, so maintenance treatment (medication and psychotherapy, sometimes additional ECT at a much less frequent rate) is necessary to continue to control symptoms.
Common side effects of ECT involve headaches, nausea, muscle soreness, confusion and memory loss. Headaches, nausea and muscle soreness are usually mild and well-controlled by medications that are given along with treatments. Confusion and memory problems build up over the course of ECT, but tend to diminish once treatments have stopped. In some cases memory loss is permanent, mainly those from days to months before treatment.
The risk of death resulting from treatment is rare - about 1 per 10,000 patients in the absence of coexisting medical conditions.
A Popular Movie Depiction
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
The Decision Process
In my case, I was being treated as an outpatient at a local hospital. After "keeping it together" for several stressful months (my husband had undergone two open-heart surgeries, for valve repair and then replacement) I found myself on a manic high (I have Bipolar Disorder type I) that lasted a few weeks, surely followed by a depressive crash. The head psychiatrist at the outpatient program was running out of options with all the drugs we were trying that were not improving my depression. He finally asked me if I would consider ECT, explaining that it seemed to work when medication had proved ineffective.
I was not opposed to it, so he scheduled an appointment with the second doctor. I really do not remember the visit with the second doctor, but he recommended ECT as well and a date was chosen for my first treatment.
The Dreaded First Treatment
I remember feeling apprehensive prior to the first treatment because I was counting on my Klonopin to calm me down and relieve my anxiety, but I found out I could not take it, as it would interact with the anesthesia. I was prescribed a non-benzodiazepine (I think it was Vistaril) but it didn't do anything for me.
There was (a lot of) paperwork to be filled out - informed consent forms, insurance papers, and some of those scary forms stating what could go wrong, that I found best not to read (but signed, anyway).
It was all over quicker than I expected, and I really didn't remember much. It was not traumatic at all, and my fears completely dissipated after the first treatment. The general anesthesia was no big deal at all - I actually enjoyed the process - and the only immediate side effect I experienced later that day was a bad headache. For subsequent treatments I was given a Toradol injection, and I never had the headache again.
A Typical ECT Session
I get a phone call the night before treatment. They go over the instructions and let me know what time I'm scheduled for. It's just like prepping for surgery: nothing to eat or drink after midnight; I have to take my meds with a small sip of water only; some meds are not allowed because they interfere with the anesthesia (such as the Klonopin I wanted to take for anxiety). Benzodiazepines are in general not allowed.
The hospital van picks me up at the assigned time. Once at the hospital I sign the usual pile of paperwork and am wheeled into the unit. In the OR I change into a gown and the nurses hook me up to a heart monitor, put a blood pressure cuff around my arm and an oxygen meter on my finger. They start the IV and make sure I'm comfortable. After all, most of the time I'm there is spent waiting for my "turn".
There are four beds in the OR, and for some reason I always end up on bed #3 or #4, so I have to wait for two or three people to have the ECT before I do. The doctor, anesthesiologist and nurses are really quiet. I am very curious and try to listen to what is going on, but there is not much to listen to. They say the patient name and number and that they are there for ECT, and one by one they all say "Yes" in agreement, and start the procedure.
All I hear is the breathing bag doing its job breathing for the patient. I listen closely, but hear no "zapping" sound. Then it's over. I hear them clearing the patient's airways, it makes a nasty, "mucousy" sucking noise. The sequence repeats for each patient until it's time for me to be treated.
During
I'm all cozy under the blanket, but now they have to uncover my feet (I think it has to do with the curling of the toes signaling that the seizure is over) and strap me down to the bed. My arms are kept under the blanket, and thick velcro straps go across my chest and thighs.
The doctor comes in and asks me how I am doing, and the anesthesiologist gets my drug mix ready. They put a rubber mouthpiece (kinda like a big pacifier) so that I don't chew off my tongue, and then say the agreement procedure: "This is Natalia Norman number XXXXXXX for ECT" - "Yes". "Yes". "Yes". "Yes". Now I feel the cold medicine being pumped in my vein (my favorite part of the whole process) and start my "game": how high will I be able to count today? Then I must be out in about 5 seconds. I always try to count to 10, and to stay alert as long as I can, but oh, those meds are powerful. They knock you out pretty quickly.
After
I wake up feeling somewhat confused. The nurse removes the IV and unhooks me from the monitors. Then they give me a brown bag snack and wheel me out of the unit. Finally the hospital van drops the patients back home.
Treatment Change: Bilateral ECT
Shortly after treatment started, my psychiatrist felt that I was not responding as expected. He had started with unilateral ECT, since it has less effect on memory, but may not be as effective in some patients. He explained the difference between unilateral and bilateral ECT and suggested we switched to bilateral ECT. I agreed.
The ECT really worked well in the beginning, shaking me off the depression, but after a while I felt I wasn't gaining any additional benefits from it, and so almost 3 months later after 18 sessions my husband and I decided to stop the treatments. I remember that finally by Thanksgiving I was beginning to feel normal again. I think a combination of the ECT and finally figuring out the right drug combination did the trick. Would I go through it again if necessary? Yes.
Treatment Side Effects
I did experience severe confusion and memory loss throughout the course of treatment. My husband said I was pretty out of it during those 3 months. He said it was scary that sometimes I would only speak in monosyllables, and he even wondered if I would ever speak normally again. (I do). I think I felt somewhat zombie-like, but I don't remember much from that time period - that's the memory loss part of it.
Even though I did not fully recover all the memories that were lost, my memory did get better once treatments were stopped. Memories from the periods right before and during treatment were the most affected, but I experienced some long-term memory loss as well, as explained in the next section, below.
Long Term Side Effects
It seems I'm one of the "lucky few" whose long-term memory has been affected by treatment. Above is a picture of me in Santorini, Greece, taken in July of 2005. My husband says we went down a path that consisted of give or take 600 steps (we opted out of using the donkeys) to swim in the crater of a volcano. I believe him, but I have no recollection of ever being at this volcano.
It is unfortunate that some memories from my only European trip so far (I hope there are others yet to come) have been "erased". We were in London, Paris, Berlin, two Greek islands (Santorini and Aegina) - with a side trip to Egypt where we visited Cairo, Alexandria and Luxor. There is a lot that I remember from that trip, but also a lot that I don't, so looking at the picturesis an interesting experience.
I've been keeping journals since circa 2000, and reading some entries I feel like I am reading a novel, or someone else's memoirs. There are things that I went through that I have absolutely no recollection of. Zero. I was told it is common to "lose" the memories from around the time of treatment (which I did - I don't remember much from that period), but that it is rare to have your longer term memory affected. I never talked to anyone else that has had ECT, so I don't know how my experience differs (or not) from other people.
Cost of ECT
18 ECT treatments = ~ $50,000
Average cost per treatment was approximately $2,700. (Luckily I had insurance and did not pay a penny; otherwise the treatment wouldn't even have been an option for me - I simply could not afford to pay that out of pocket).
Looking at this particular statement (click on the image to see the large version) I can see that the ECT procedure was $2,096.81, with additional $100.00 for IV, $200.00 for anesthesia, $98.90 for central services (whatever that is) and $329.80 for pharmacy. Quite a hefty bill! It was by no means a "fancy hospital", so I'm guessing this price must be "average".
Educational Material for Patients and Families
A Heartfelt Talk About ECT on TED
Sherwin Nuland, surgeon and author
What do you think of ECT?
Barbaric or life saver?
Fetching blurbs now... please stand byBarbaric! It should be banned!
Zut_Moon says:
I saw the results of it about an hour after it was applied to someone - was not a pretty sight.
Posted February 21, 2012
Apalmer001 says:
My MIL had ECT's and she begged never to have them. She was in a mental institution and had little say on her own behalf. give her those She begged to be left alone, but she was schizophrenic so that could have played a part and perhaps her experience was not the same. I have to vote in her favor that her treatments were barbaric.
Posted January 19, 2012
gypsyman27 says:
I don't know, everyone that I know that had ECT didn't act like themselves ever again! See you around the galaxy...
Posted July 04, 2011
sousababy says:
I cannot pick either since I have known some people who opted for ECT when they really felt they had no other option. Personally, I wouldn't do it, for the reason that pin-point accuracy is not well-established and there have been untold stories of lasting harm. Still, I respect it as a personal decision (I think Carrie Fisher, who played Princess Leia had it). If someone would ultimately rather die than live, than yes, it has saved lives. Risky though (in my humble opinion). I would strongly recommend every other option be tried first since there is nothing reversible about it.
Posted July 03, 2011
MarianaFargasch says:
I don't like it, I don't think it has helped you, the only thing I think it did was make you lose some of your memories, so I think it should be banned.
Posted March 20, 2011
ECT can save lives!
davespeed says:
Anyone unsure about ECT should watch Dr. Nuland's TED talk.
Posted February 22, 2012
chromegrrrl says:
This is not a one size/ one medication fits all world, and ECT has helped people that would otherwise go untreated and remain in a living hell. I hope more research is done.
Posted February 21, 2012
scarlettohairy says:
My brother had ECT as needed off and on and helped him immensely when medication didn't.
Posted February 21, 2012
TenPoundTenor says:
I think that for the most part it should be banned, but it may be helpful in certain circumstances for certain patients. In these cases it should probably be limited and highly regulated.
Posted February 20, 2012
navalava says:
I wouldn't think of ECT as of barbaric procedure. It was that 50 and more years ago. But now it is like some other procedures like hearth defibrilation. And when someone is in teraporesistent medical state, like severe depression, then ECT is life saving, for sure.
Posted February 20, 2012
stylishimo says:
Well, having been stabbed nearly to death by a scitzophrenic I think that if ECT is going to help people, and all else has failed then why not, as long as the patient gives their consent and is aware of the risks. A lot of the medication given esp anti psychotics can be just as harmful to the health, I'm sure of this as the person who stabbed me was also someone I love, I did a lot of research into the drugs that they gave him and was sickened by what I found.
Posted February 20, 2012
candidaabrahamson says:
From what I've seen, through clients and friends, it is the last-ditch effort that pays off in spades. It is effective when all else has failed.
Posted February 09, 2012
AddaptAbilities says:
I think it's an important tool of last resort. It's scary to risk even your short term memories, but severe mental illness can be even more destructive.
Posted July 24, 2011
iandrzej says:
Well, I am not a doctor so I should not decide and thats how I can't comment just because of knowing only side, we must consider the other side of coin everytime.
For lifesake anything is acceptable.
Posted June 14, 2011
Mull says:
Im currently having ECT in the UK. Only have had 2 sessions but got a chest infection so had to wait 3 weeks until i carry on. Its not barbaric at all. I found the process easier than the dentist! Good luck to you!
Posted June 11, 2011
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davespeed
Feb 22, 2012 @ 7:57 pm | delete
- Great lens! I believe that ECT works for a lot of people. When nothing else has worked, it would certainly be worth considering for anyone going through the hell of severe depression
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chromegrrrl
Feb 21, 2012 @ 3:39 pm | delete
- I'm really impressed with the thoughtful way you approached this topic. No one has a problem going to see the doctor if they have a sprain but when there's a misfire in the brain it's surrounded with shame-- our culture needs to wake up and take the stigma away from mental illness.
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scarlettohairy
Feb 21, 2012 @ 11:49 am | delete
- This is a valuable lens. I think some memory loss is an acceptable trade off for feeling better.
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desertdarlene
Feb 21, 2012 @ 10:28 am | delete
- Very interesting.
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TenPoundTenor
Feb 20, 2012 @ 6:17 pm | delete
- Great lens.
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23squidoo
Feb 20, 2012 @ 5:53 pm | delete
- I have Bipolar Disorder as well, but am fortunate in that at the moment my mood swings are controlled with medication. I have often wondered about ECT - how it was done, what it's side effects were, would I choose it if offered the opportunity. You've provided so much information here, and I'm grateful. Thank you and Angel Blessed!
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pawpaw911 Feb 20, 2012 @ 3:25 pm | delete
- Very well done. An interesting and important subject. Thanks for sharing your experience.
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navalava
Feb 20, 2012 @ 11:43 am | delete
- Since I am med student, I know a lot about the procedure, but I know little about what patients feel about it. I am glad I saw this lens. It has lots of interesting, and useful informations. Thank you!
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blackspanielgallery
Feb 20, 2012 @ 8:44 am | delete
- Nice lens
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Nimsrules Feb 20, 2012 @ 5:13 am | delete
- This ECT thing seems scary !! I wish I don't have to go through it.
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Hi there! My name is Natalia and I live in SoCal. In 2007 I underwent 18 ECT (shock therapy) sessions; although my memories of that time period are pa... more »
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